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This topic has been up for long--yet it has not been brought up. Some consider them equals, others thinks that one of them will triumph the other.

all we know about Infinity being is that its power is the sum of the gems and the Heart is certainly greater than the gems...He beat LT with the Heart for god sakes....Infinity being would go down to the heart also

Here imo the list. TOAA HOTU Thanos Living Tribunal Infinity Gauntlet

God vs God = God wins.

I was just making this since it I thought everyone had accepted that the potential of the Cosmic Cubes surpassed the once of the Infinity Gem's, but to some it don't seem as clear as I thought.

That's why I made this to see if people have got it right, or rather to get an overview of their opinions.

Besides these kind's of battles are necessary to convince people, to bellive in what's right, no pun intended.

Thanos with the Heart wins.

Thanos has heart.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I was just making this since it I thought everyone had accepted that the potential of the Cosmic Cubes surpassed the once of the Infinity Gem's,.

what how???

Originally posted by hush
what how???

Check out my thread about Cosmic Cubes and the Infinity Gauntlet.

TOAA is the God of Marvel

THOTI is his power.

The Infinity Being was the previous God of Marvel.

Nemesis tapped into a fraction of the IB's original power,
and was still able to affect Realities across Two MultiverseS.

4 Infinity Gems were stacking Newly created Realities one on top of the other.
Realities the 4 Gems themselves created from scratch.

These same 4 Gems nearly destroyed "ALL the Realities."


WHen 4 Gems can do that, it makes you wonder just how powerful the Complete IG is,

and if the IG is that potent, then imagine the Complete Infinity Being (7 Gems)
(Not out of control Nemesis)

oh yea, the Seventh Gem not only has the IB consciousness, but ADDS to it's power.

So, Stanlee. . . I mean TOAA has retconned Infinite Being. . .THOTU=Power of Stan Lee . . .lame.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
So, Stanlee. . . I mean TOAA has retconned Infinite Being. . .THOTU=Power of Stan Lee . . .lame.

Not really.

It's the same story from back in the day.

The IB was first, the IB was everything.

The IB was lonely and bored being everything, so it killed itself.

The IB's death created the current Marvel Universe (Omniverse)

Before the IB's death came about, it imbued 7 Gems with it's power and consciousness,

Why?

To experience existence (through the Gems)
in this Newly created Reality (current Marvel Universe) that was APART from itself.

At some point TOAA took over,

whether TOAA was created by the IB is a mystery.

How TOAA came into the picture is a mystery.

TOAA might've developed in an evolutionary process on his own, I don't know.

Perhaps TOAA was a greater God the IB didn't know about,
and decided to run things himself by manipulating the IB's death,

I just don't know.

So, what does HOTU has to do with Infinite being, because I mostly read comics from the shooter era or little later.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
So, Stanlee. . . I mean TOAA has retconned Infinite Being. . .THOTU=Power of Stan Lee . . .lame.

Just the Power & Awareness, (on an Omniversal level)

not the Authority of TOAA (beyond Omniversal)

TOAA was still manipulating Thanos with THOTI through out the enitire "End" Arc.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
So, what does HOTU has to do with Infinite being, because I mostly read comics from the shooter era or little later.

Nothing.

The relationship, if any, between TOAA & the IB is a mystery.

We only know that the previous "God of Marvel" was the IB,

and now it's TOAA.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
So, Stanlee. . . I mean TOAA has retconned Infinite Being. . .THOTU=Power of Stan Lee . . .lame.

The book never said that it was the power of the one above all.

i go with the heart and thanos.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The book never said that it was the power of the one above all.
Supreme being's power, it's pretty much the power of the One Above All, if not it must be beyond it because it is supreme.

But I would hardly say that Stan Lee is the One-Above-All, character have broken the 4th wall and when they do Stan Lee seems far less powerful than the actual heroes, like a normal human being.

It was in one occasion were FF broke the 4th wall and meet Jack Kirby and he was God.
- I doubt it was in the sense of potraying power, and his power seemed to be in his pen.

The real One-Above-All is still unknown and will probably stay that way, for a long time, if not forever.

But yes, I too belive that the Heart was actually beyond the power of the Infinity Being, as the aspects of it's power lies within the Infinity Gem's.

I would place the Infinity Being at the True Beyonders's level.

heart is greater than living ribunal while the gauntlet was in question. it would have neevr beaten tribunal with the ease the heart beat lt.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The book never said that it was the power of the one above all.

After the insurmountable amount of evidence that was posted just for you,

you're still going around saying this.


pfft

Originally posted by quanchi112
heart is greater than living ribunal while the gauntlet was in question. it would have neevr beaten tribunal with the ease the heart beat lt.

The IG would never beat the LT period.

This isn't about the IG though, it's about the Infinity Being >>>IG.

The IG is not the full power of the IB,

the 7 Gems make up the IB.

dont think so either. if the infifnity being beat the living tribunal it would be closer than thanos with the heart. thanos with the heart made everyone look weak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
dont think so either. if the infifnity being beat the living tribunal it would be closer than thanos with the heart. thanos with the heart made everyone look weak.

It's difficult to try and gauge the IB, we know he was eveything,
and we know he created the current Omniverse,
according to Thanos, Mephisto and Diana of the Ultraverse (outside the Multiverse)

There's absolutely no conclusive info on TOAA,
how he came into being or even how he operates.

He speaks through the LT sortofspeak.


So what are the IB's feats?

Created the current Omniverse.

Created the Infinity Gems,

the Infinity Gauntlet (6 Gems) gives you atleast Multiversal power,
according to the Soul Gem the IG can conquer Two MultiverseS,
the LT himself certified this possiblity and conclusively stated,
that One Multiverse would surely be destroyed "and perhaps our own as well"

Quoted exatly the way the LT said, about the IG.



The 7 Gems make up the IB, but exactly how much of his power is in his incarnation Nemesis,

we just don't know,

but Nemesis was impressive despite not being able to truly tap into it's potential.

Wait wasent the cosmic Egg made out of CC's that created the 616th, the original and first universe which from the rest were born?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Wait wasent the cosmic Egg made out of CC's that created the 616th, the original and first universe which from the rest were born?

The Cosmic Egg from the Infinity Crusade was made of CCU (30)

It was just a name given to it because it resembled an egg.


The real Cosmic Egg, was a singularity, a single point of all encompassing energy,
which then exploded into the Universe and beyond. I suppose that's how the IB killed itself, it imploded intself into a Cosmic Egg, and then exploded into Reality.

SO the IB would have the power of a 30 cosmic cubes then?

Stalemate.


But if had to pick a winner, then the IB would have a slight edge, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Stalemate.


But if had to pick a winner, then the IB would have a slight edge, imo.

i am in agreement with this satement..

I might not agree with all of the info here,i will say this..

If the IB was at the time the all powerfull one with noone above him
And Thanos had the power of TOAA(i dont agree..but for this lets say he had supreme power) then i would say stalemate..but a slight edge in the IB favor... for thanos was not TOAA in full,but at the time the IB was all powerfull he was

Does that make sense? in a way?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
SO the IB would have the power of a 30 cosmic cubes then?

Cosmic Cubes and the IB have nothing in common.


The Goddess' Cosmic Egg was not the entropic state of Reality,

it was just an egg-like shaped sum of Cosmic Containment Units.



The IB's Cosmic Egg, was all of the previous Reality imploded into a single point,

which then exploded with creation.

Originally posted by Galan007
Stalemate.


But if had to pick a winner, then the IB would have a slight edge, imo.

If Adam Warlock possessed the IG plus that seventh gem...the Ego gem....could he match Thanos with THOTI?

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
If Adam Warlock possessed the IG plus that seventh gem...the Ego gem....could he match Thanos with THOTI?

The Seventh Gem will force Nemesis to manifest.

Making the IG obselete.

I wouldn't say IB was the Previous TOAA...

We don't know the nature of TOAA. If he's in fact the marvel staff as a certain school of thought goes, then he'd be above IB.

Infinity Being wins

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Infinity Being wins

Did the Infinity Being die because of boredom

Originally posted by Mr Master
Cosmic Cubes and the IB have nothing in common.


The Goddess' Cosmic Egg was not the entropic state of Reality,

it was just an egg-like shaped sum of Cosmic Containment Units.



The IB's Cosmic Egg, was all of the previous Reality imploded into a single point,

which then exploded with creation.
But you said that the death of the IB caused the creation of the Cosmic Egg, which out of the creation was born, wouldent that mean that it would be equal to the power of a 30 cosmic cubes from which the egg is said to be created out off.

And from what I've read at the marvel.com page the Beyonders seems to exist outside of creation, which could make them external to the IB.

True Beyonders > IB = 30 CC >> 1 CC > IG

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
But you said that the death of the IB caused the creation of the Cosmic Egg, which out of the creation was born, wouldent that mean that it would be equal to the power of a 30 cosmic cubes from which the egg is said to be created out off.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Cosmic Cubes and the IB have nothing in common.


The Goddess' Cosmic Egg was not the entropic state of Reality,

it was just an egg-like shaped sum of Cosmic Containment Units.



The IB's Cosmic Egg, was all of the previous Reality imploded into a single point,

which then exploded with creation.


The Cosmic Cube Cosmic Egg has NOTHING to do with the beginning of creation,

has nothing to do with the creation of the Universe,

has nothing to do with the Infinity Being,

has nothing to do with the Cosmic Egg the Infinity Being became,


has NO relation whatsoever with the Cosmic Egg that spawned the Omniverse.




There's only been ONE Cosmic Egg that created everything.
That was the Cosmic Egg at the beginning of the current Marvel Universe.
The IB Cosmic Egg.

The energy contained within the "true" Cosmic Egg, is still spreading outward to this very day:

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And it will continue to do so for the rest of eternity, because contained within the Egg was infinite energy, .

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Cosmic Cube Cosmic Egg has NOTHING to do with the beginning of creation,

has nothing to do with the creation of the Universe,

has nothing to do with the Infinity Being,

has nothing to do with the Cosmic Egg the Infinity Being became,


has NO relation whatsoever with the Cosmic Egg that spawned the Omniverse.




There's only been ONE Cosmic Egg that created everything.
That was the Cosmic Egg at the beginning of the current Marvel Universe.
The IB Cosmic Egg.
But with 30 CC's you could recreate the CE.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
But with 30 CC's you could recreate the CE. The true/original CE?

Nah.

And you assume that the original was superior to the remake, in terms of power?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And you assume that the original was superior to the remake, in terms of power?

Jeez T, I told you several times already friend,

the Cosmic Egg made up of Cosmic Containment Units,
has NOTHING to do with the Original Cosmic Egg that spawened the Omniverse.

The Cosmic Egg made up of Cosmic Containment Units,
was called that because it's features resembled an Egg ... nothing more.



So it was NOT a "remake" ... in any way,

it was a completely separate object with NO relations whatsoever to the Original Cosmic Egg.






Recap:



The Original and only true Cosmic Egg, created the expanding Universe (Omniverse)


The Cosmic Egg in the Infinity Crusade arc.
is just a mixture of 30 Cosmic Containment Units resembling an Egg, period.

Who wins?

It really depends on which god you pray to: TOAA or IB. That's the likely god that's more powerful of the two.

But there's gospel going around about a group of gods, the True Beyonders. But I'm still waiting for someone to convince me.

who or what r the True Beyonders?

Originally posted by hush
who or what r the True Beyonders?
The true creator of the Cosmic Cubes, thus giving them their true potential and put restriction on them.

The true Cosmic Cubes (restrictions removed) had the power to sunder the omniverse and recreate it.
A Cosmic Cube with limitations is pretty much at the Cube Beings's level, infinitely weaker than a Celestial.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The true creator of the Cosmic Cubes, thus giving them their true potential and put restriction on them.

The true Cosmic Cubes (restrictions removed) had the power to sunder the omniverse and recreate it.
A Cosmic Cube with limitations is pretty much at the Cube Beings's level, infinitely weaker than a Celestial.

And remember that the true Cosmic Cubes posesses but a miniture part of the beyonders power, they are a pretty awesome race.

Originally posted by Utrigita
And remember that the true Cosmic Cubes posesses but a miniture part of the beyonders power, they are a pretty awesome race.
Certainly above the 5d imp's from DC, perhaps par with the 10d imp's, as Ultimator was pretty powerful as well.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Certainly above the 5d imp's from DC, perhaps par with the 10d imp's, as Ultimator was pretty powerful as well.

Don't think thats high enough, if but a miniture bit of one of the beings (the Beyonders) can destroy and recreate the Omniverse, and LT himself saying that there power is infinite then I would go higher then the 10d.

heart is more powerful than infinity being...hence it surpassed it in marvels the end