Men versus Women.....

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Rogue Jedi
Which of the two are more manipulative and cold blooded?

Tattoo
I voted women, mainly because I've been manipulated so many times by them. ermm

Rogue Jedi
me too. Recent events have proven this to me as fact.

Bardock42
I

Rogue Jedi
yes?

Bardock42
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
yes?

I am more manipulative and cold blooded.


Look at my sig...if that doesn't make her drop her panties, I don't know.

Kram3r
Originally posted by Bardock42
I am more manipulative and cold blooded.


Look at my sig...if that doesn't make her drop her panties, I don't know.

crylaugh

Rogue Jedi
that is NOTHING compared to what a woman can do to a man.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
that is NOTHING compared to what a woman can do to a man.

I am unmanipulativeable

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Bardock42
I am unmanipulativeable wait for it.....

Röland
Not all women are, but I will say women can be more manipulative.

Kram3r
Ok, we're all saying women here but that's because they give us sex. I mean that's cool with me, if it weren't for women who would we get sex off? Guys? That's Mist's lifestyle, but I don't judge. jockey

Rogue Jedi

Mišt
Originally posted by Kram3r
Ok, we're all saying women here but that's because they give us sex. I mean that's cool with me, if it weren't for women who would we get sex off? Guys? That's Mist's lifestyle, but I don't judge. jockey

Someone has fantasies haermm

Rogue Jedi
evil incarnate.

Grinning Goku
Definitely women. They accuse us of only seeing pussy when they walk around, but many only see dollar bills when they look at us.

Kram3r

Rogue Jedi
women will do things men would never dream of, most of them anyway. women will want to go out and test the waters for a better suitor, because they feel as if they are missing out on the BBD. Bigger Better Deal. they will keep us in waiting as they secretively do this, just in case they fail and want to stay with us. men, we usually are up front and honest when we want to see what else is out there.

not all women are like this, and vice versa for men.

PITT_HAPPENS
Women in general for me, but I have told some girls of crap that I've done to people that have hurt me and they said they never wanted to piss me off. evil face

Rogue Jedi
women do a lot of subtle things that equal one bad act.

PITT_HAPPENS
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
women do a lot of subtle things that equal one bad act. That's the thing, I used their same tactics against them but more effetely. The only problem is that I can't duplicate the "female network", if I do something bad here the women in Africa would hear about it and say "that a$$hole".

Well off to work pitt_wave

Röland
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
women will do things men would never dream of, most of them anyway. women will want to go out and test the waters for a better suitor, because they feel as if they are missing out on the BBD. Bigger Better Deal. they will keep us in waiting as they secretively do this, just in case they fail and want to stay with us. men, we usually are up front and honest when we want to see what else is out there.

not all women are like this, and vice versa for men.

I've gone through that cycle a couple times. Hell, my most recent ex used her mom's cancer to cover up the real reason she was breaking up with me; she was cheating.

Rogue Jedi

Röland
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
see? they are more devious and far more treacherous than men are. they tell you they want one thing, then they abandon you telling you they want something else.

Let's not forget how she kept me hanging on the whole summer by saying she wanted to be back with me. I was dumb enough to believe her.

Now we barely even speak to each other. shrug

Rogue Jedi

Röland
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
EXACTLY....lies, deception, betrayal, total lack of commitment. I have seen it happen to friends of mine, and I tried to tell them, but love blinds you.

I try not to let my past experiences affect my entire way of thinking though.

Wild-Cherry
Women ninja

Rogue Jedi

ADarksideJedi
BOth man and woman are that are on that list.Well the people I work with anyway!jm

Röland
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
dont get me wrong, I dont hold this against all women. I just happened to have seen a lot of the bad ones.

Same here man. I've had 4 serious relationships in my life, 3 of those were ended badly.

ADarksideJedi
I had to go through two jerks till I found the right man!jm

PITT_HAPPENS

BlaxicanHydra
Well, that's why PVS si right in saying women shouldn't think. Lemme find the quote...

"you are dirt beneath a man's feet. a plaything to use at will, a servant, and a maker of babies. dont try to see it beyond that, since the rest of life is just a bunch of complicated man stuff."

Word.

Storm
For every manipulative woman, there is a manipulative man as well.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Secretus
Originally posted by Storm
For every manipulative woman, there is a manipulative man as well.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

That's exactly what a manipulative woman would say ...

Shelbert Lemon
Both can be just as bad. I dont think it has anything to do with what gender you are. More so, its who you are as a person.

PONG_MASTER
I voted both because a lot of men do manipulate women and same goes for women. Though I believe the ways they deceive are different in comparison.

But people who always b*tch about someone being manipulative and deceitful are the ones who are letting themselves be treated like that. I think the wrong question is being asked here. We should be asking, "Who's more foolish to allow themselves to be manipulated and deceived?" And even then, I'd still say both genders.

Röland
Originally posted by PONG_MASTER
I voted both because a lot of men do manipulate women and same goes for women. Though I believe the ways they deceive are different in comparison.

But people who always b*tch about someone being manipulative and deceitful are the ones who are letting themselves be treated like that. I think the wrong question is being asked here. We should be asking, "Who's more foolish to allow themselves to be manipulated and deceived?" And even then, I'd still say both genders.

The question "Who's more foolish to allow themselves to be manipulated and deceived?" is kind of the wrong question to ask. I admit I was dumb enough to let that happen to me after my girlfriend broke up with me, but the first time that person deceives/manipulates you, you never see it coming.

lord xyz
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Which of the two are more manipulative and cold blooded? Obviously women. I can't refuse them.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Secretus
That's exactly what a manipulative woman would say ...

Bardock42
Originally posted by Storm
For every manipulative woman, there is a manipulative man as well.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam. That I doubt. Seems like the least likely case, really.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Bardock42
That I doubt. Seems like the least likely case, really.

Storm
The mutterings of a bitter man.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Storm
The mutterings of a bitter man.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam. the mutterings of a bitter woman.....bada bing.

Storm
I have nothing to be bitter about.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Storm
I have nothing to be bitter about.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam. neither do I, not anymore.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Storm
The mutterings of a bitter man.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam. Nah, it just seems statistically likely that one would have more manipulative people. Although I wouldn't know which ones.

Rogue Jedi
and the one with the most? WOMEN.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and the one with the most? WOMEN. Seems unproven.

Mr Parker
all really depends on the individual.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Storm
For every manipulative woman, there is a manipulative man as well.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Yeah I would say thats a pretty accurate statement.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Mr Parker
Yeah I would say thats a pretty accurate statement.

Why?

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Bardock42
Seems unproven. life experiences, dude. I have known alot of females as friends, and they confide in confused me their experiences, things they have done. I am like WTF.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
life experiences, dude. I have known alot of females as friends, and they confide in confused me their experiences, things they have done. I am like WTF.

Well, to be fair aren't we all manipulating our environment in some ways?

I suppose women might use more emotional manipulation, on the other hand it seems to me that it also works better on females.

Storm
Thousands of desperate women suffer at the hands of a manipulative man. Men can be just as sneaky, passive-aggressive, needy, underhanded, whiny, guilt-inducing, and emotionally demanding as women are accused of.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Mr Parker
well I have run into my share of BOTH men and women over the years who were cold blooded so thats why I voted both equally.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Storm
Thousands of desperate women suffer at the hands of a manipulative man. Men can be just as sneaky, passive-aggressive, needy, underhanded, whiny, guilt-inducing, and emotionally demanding as women are accused of.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

But you wouldn't say that one sex is more so?

Storm
No, I already voted both are equal.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Storm
No, I already voted both are equal.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.


That seems soo incredibly unlikely though.

Storm
It' s conventional "wisdom" to say that women would be the manipulative ones.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Storm
It' s conventional "wisdom" to say that women would be the manipulative ones.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Maybe they are just worse at hiding it.


Or men are so manipulative that they convinced everyone that women are.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, to be fair aren't we all manipulating our environment in some ways?

I suppose women might use more emotional manipulation, on the other hand it seems to me that it also works better on females. emotional manipulation is the main weapon in their arsenal.

Röland
Originally posted by Storm
It' s conventional "wisdom" to say that women would be the manipulative ones.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

I voted based on my experiences. But I do not label all women as manipulative and I don't immediately make the assumption that new women I meet are manipulative.

Shelbert Lemon
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
emotional manipulation is the main weapon in their arsenal. Are men not capable of emotional manipulation?

Bardock42
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Are men not capable of emotional manipulation?

NO, they are fully unable to.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Are men not capable of emotional manipulation? yes, but women take it to a whole different level.

Shelbert Lemon
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
yes, but women take it to a whole different level. How so?

Originally posted by Bardock42
NO, they are fully unable to. completely. stick out tongue

Röland
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
How so?

completely. stick out tongue

This is just based on my experience.

My ex knew that I still wanted to be with her after she broke up with me and she used the love I still had for her against me by keeping me hanging on when there was nothing to hang on to.

Rogue Jedi

Shelbert Lemon

Storm
Men haven' been guilty of the same antic?


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Röland
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
I understan personal experiences very well. I was once married to one of the most secretive, emotionally draining manipulative man Ive known. I can begin a list of things that he did that were so dirty, secretive and underhanded... but I dont let that tarnish my view of the oppisite sex.

Neither do I, I just voted women based on my experience.

I don't think RJ meant this thread as a thread to judge everyone in either sex, but who we, as people have come to see to be more manipulative.

Bardock42
Hey I'm all for men being more manipulative.

I am sure we are better at everything anyways.

Rogue Jedi
like I said, men do it to. but women are better and more frequent at it.

Fire
In my opinion both sexes are equally manipulative. They both just use different tactics.

Shelbert Lemon

Rogue Jedi
seems the public has spoken.

PITT_HAPPENS
I think that a man not being manipulative is harder for women to understand thus making it harder on them. Most women would need to know why and how and reasons and they not knowing this would drive most crazy. wink

Rogue Jedi
women are like a rubiks cube. You ca try to figure it out, but you never will.

PITT_HAPPENS
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Are men not capable of emotional manipulation? You don't know me very well wink

Rogue Jedi
I do, you made my siggy!!!

PITT_HAPPENS
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I do, you made my siggy!!! stick out tongue

Shelbert Lemon
Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
You don't know me very well wink shifty .... color_ninja


Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I do, you made my siggy!!! He made several of mine!! stick out tongue

I dont even like that movie ... but that is a nice sig. happy

Bardock42
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
shifty .... color_ninja


He made several of mine!! stick out tongue

I dont even like that movie ... but that is a nice sig. happy It's a good movie shock

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Which of the two are more manipulative and cold blooded?

Probably women, actually.

There is a reason why Gaddafi's bodyguards are all female.

Shelbert Lemon
Originally posted by Bardock42
It's a good movie shock I didnt think so. ermm

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Bardock42
It's a good movie shock

smoker4
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I had to go through two jerks till I found the right man!jm

You had to jerk him off twice before he'd go out with you? now thats manipulation!

I voted both, it depends on your life experiences i.e if you have been shit on a lot or if you are more of the shitter (no bardock, i dont mean that)

Goddess Kali
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Which of the two are more manipulative and cold blooded?


Please do not stereotype.


Men and Women are both equally evil, and are both capable of being equally manipulative and cold blooded

Bardock42
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Probably women, actually.

There is a reason why Gaddafi's bodyguards are all female. Give better head?

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
I didnt think so. ermm Well, then you really aren't entitled to an opinion now are you?

lil bitchiness
They're all virgins, though!

Bardock42
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
They're all virgins, though! That's what we are told.


Also...oral virgins? I don't think so.

Sanctuary
Originally posted by Bardock42
I am more manipulative and cold blooded.


Look at my sig...if that doesn't make her drop her panties, I don't know.
haermm


You wishz. kisses
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Both can be just as bad. I dont think it has anything to do with what gender you are. More so, its who you are as a person.
yes

Secretus
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
They're all virgins, though!

Speak for yourself.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Secretus
Speak for yourself.

What the f**k?

We are talking about the bodyguards.

Secretus
Originally posted by Bardock42
What the f**k?

We are talking about the bodyguards.

doh

BackFire
Women, in sheer magnitude of the numbers. They also have a greater ability, as they know what men want (sex) and know how to exploit it, where many men have no ****ing clue what women want, and thus can't exploit it.

A problem is also in society, which allows women to be manipulative. Take a look at divorce statistics. Women almost always get vaginamoney, and often use marriage as another tool to take advantage of men (and the system) and get money out of the whole scenario.

So, my vote goes to women.

=Tired Hiker=
Vaginamoney. hysterical

WrathfulDwarf
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Which of the two are more manipulative and cold blooded?

What if we're talking about She-Males?

Do those count?

smoker4
Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Vaginamoney. hysterical


I lol'd

Naz
Women, because we're smarter.

Mywi
Originally posted by Naz
Women, because we're smarter.

BackFire
Psh, if women were so smart they wouldn't be getting raped all the time.

Naz
If men were smarter they'd have girlfriends and wouldn't need to rape people.

=Tired Hiker=
Zomg, this thread is like . . . . woah. confused

BackFire
If women weren't so conniving and deceitful they wouldn't be getting raped.

And having a girlfriend isn't smart, it's stupid. Why spend time listening to a girl complain (really the only thing gained by having a girlfriend) when it's not necessary? Rapists know this.

Secretus
Originally posted by BackFire
If women weren't so conniving and deceitful they wouldn't be getting raped.

And having a girlfriend isn't smart, it's stupid. Why spend time listening to a girl complain (really the only thing gained by having a girlfriend) when it's not necessary? Rapists know this.

Yes your right, they do. roll eyes (sarcastic)

MR.Grum
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Which of the two are more manipulative and cold blooded? chicks man!!!

Kiimy
i voted for women

MR.Grum
Originally posted by Kiimy
i voted for women yeah you would know

Kiimy
laughing out loud

i do not .. just guessing .. =)

MR.Grum
Originally posted by Kiimy
laughing out loud

i do not .. just guessing .. =) boof me

Roulette
IMO, both are equal. I've met guys and girls who are conniving b*tches. But hey, there's hope....not everyone is like that ^-^

MR.Grum
Originally posted by Roulette
IMO, both are equal. I've met guys and girls who are conniving b*tches. But hey, there's hope....not everyone is like that ^-^ more girls then guys though

Roulette
Originally posted by MR.Grum
more girls then guys though

Haha...everyone's speaking from personal experience. There are alot of wanker guys out there, trust me big grin

Bardock42
Originally posted by Roulette
Haha...everyone's speaking from personal experience. There are alot of wanker guys out there, trust me big grin

YOUSE LYIN'

Roulette
Originally posted by Bardock42
YOUSE LYIN'

NO WAIZ oh I speak ze truth.

Tattoo
Originally posted by Roulette
Haha...everyone's speaking from personal experience. There are alot of wanker guys out there, trust me big grin

Nah, women are (nearly) all bitches.

Roulette
Originally posted by Tattoo
Nah, women are (nearly) all bitches.

Haha, c'mon...if women are generally bitches, then so are guys big grin make it fair! Guys can be shifty kents.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Tattoo
Nah, women are (nearly) all bitches.

Not the ones I know.

Or they are just really bad at being manipulative.

Tattoo
Originally posted by Roulette
Haha, c'mon...if women are generally bitches, then so are guys big grin make it fair! Guys can be shifty kents.

Less so then women, so there you go.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Tattoo
Less so then women, so there you go.

q.e.d.



for sure

Roulette
Originally posted by Tattoo
Less so then women, so there you go.

Stubborn! oh

Bardock42
Originally posted by Roulette
Stubborn! oh

Pretty shock

Tattoo
Originally posted by Bardock42
q.e.d.



for sure

No, don't have to prove it. It's based on personal experience.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Tattoo
No, don't have to prove it. It's based on personal experience. Doesn't mean you don't have to prove it.



Lets exaggerate here. You know what....maybe 100 girls? And from that you generalise for all women. Not to forget that men are probably manipulative towards women not men so you wouldn't even notice that much.

Man, it's shit that you have been played with, but your personal experience is just not an indication for how it actually is.

Roulette
Originally posted by Bardock42
Pretty shock

Cute hug

Originally posted by Bardock42
Doesn't mean you don't have to prove it.



Lets exaggerate here. You know what....maybe 100 girls? And from that you generalise for all women. Not to forget that men are probably manipulative towards women not men so you wouldn't even notice that much.

Man, it's shit that you have been played with, but your personal experience is just not an indication for how it actually is.

Well said ^-^

gingercaily
Originally posted by Bardock42
Doesn't mean you don't have to prove it.



"Lets exaggerate here. You know what....maybe 100 girls? And from that you generalise for all women. Not to forget that men are probably manipulative towards women not men so you wouldn't even notice that much.

Man, it's shit that you have been played with, but your personal experience is just not an indication for how it actually is."

I agree..go girls..you rock...

PONG_MASTER
Let me guess. Now you all are just looking for excuses to f*ck guys...

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Tattoo
Less so then women, so there you go.

Hercules
I'd say it depends, I have done my share of manipulating women and I have been manipulated by them.

Men arn't hard for a women to figure out after all, we like sex, beer and sport, not always in that order and sometimes at the same time!

Women generally know which buttons to press to get their own way but that doesn't make all women b!tches.

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