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Yeah, I know that Palpatine and Darth Sidious are the same guy. But throughout the PT, one identity is different from the other, which is noticeable if you watch the PT and the OT. You notice an immediate difference between Emperor Palpatine and Darth Sidious.

I was wondering if anyone else noticed it, and if they did, which one they preferred.

This is EU. And a vs thread.

That means it doesn't belong here...twice.

Originally posted by Alliance
This is EU. And a vs thread.

That means it doesn't belong here...twice.

Did you even bother to read the first post?

Alliance has gone off the deep end and doesn't seem to want to contribute to anything anymore. I'll go lay some petunias on his grave.

Aside from the physical features, I didn't see much of a difference between the Sidious who turned Anakin and fought Yoda, to the Emperor whose "overconfidence was his weakness." The only real thing is that he was justified in his overconfidence in the PT and a little less so in ROTJ.

Though I guess you could call the PT Sidious more of a coward, trying to run from Yoda and all. The Emperor wasn't fearful of anything in the OT to such an extent.

Sidious as "Palpatine" was actually acting like a full politican because he knew that politics was the only appropriate way through which he would get a chance to a achieve his goals, if he gains sufficient powers.

He was hiding his true personality and motives behind the curtain of "Palpatine", so that he could manage to achieve his goals through stealthy means and fool others by deceiving them. He knew that he had to be very careful in this regard because if his true identity would get discovered, the Sith will be doomed.

As the "Emperor", after the creation of the Sith Empire, it was no longer necessary for him to act like a politician because he did not had to fear the Jedi Council and he was free to show his true personality. Thus his actions now seemed different. He was more upfront in making any decisions in a free state.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Alliance has gone off the deep end and doesn't seem to want to contribute to anything anymore. I'll go lay some petunias on his grave.

Aside from the physical features, I didn't see much of a difference between the Sidious who turned Anakin and fought Yoda, to the Emperor whose "overconfidence was his weakness." The only real thing is that he was justified in his overconfidence in the PT and a little less so in ROTJ.

Though I guess you could call the PT Sidious more of a coward, trying to run from Yoda and all. The Emperor wasn't fearful of anything in the OT to such an extent.

Thanks. I love petunias.

Oh, and when someone makes a thread that is worth contributing too, I'll contribute.

Like this: "I noticed that whenever Darth Sidious was shown in the PT, he always wore a black cloak. You could also never see his eyes. I thought this was really original because he wore the same black cloak in the OT. I felt that was really original. On the other hand, whenever Palpatine was shown, he wore colors and you could see his eyes. There is such an amazing contrast there I never put the two together until Episode III when you see Sidious actually is Palpatine.

This was so cool. Because now you have Palpatine wearing all black in the first scene, just like the old Sidious...then...you have Sidious wearing a bright read flowery burka (apparently someone gave Trisha Biggar too much creative freedom). It was like, their whole IDENTITIES were merging. It was a very scary time. I was shocked.

But then I got all confused because Sidious just went back to wearing a black cloak in the OT...Palpatine must have died or lost his taste for Technicolor robes. But they still call him Palpatine and not Darth Sidious. He must have had a galactic sized identity crisis.

Oh, and I TOTALLY liked Sidious better because his the sound team had way too much fun and they did stuff to his voice on the computer that I also like to do to my voice on the computer and it was so cool because we were like doing the same thing we must be voice brothers."

See? So worthwhile.

Wow.

Absurdly stimulating, no?

Personally, the character that I perceive as 'Darth Sidious' died the second Mace disarmed him, and I see a vast difference.

To me, Palpatine was the psychotic, cackling tyrant we all know and love with the gravely voice, whereas Darth Sidious was the mysterious, cold puppetmaster.



One could think that the PT was justification for Sidious's overconfidence in RotJ.



Like I said, though, to me, the guy who fought Yoda was Emperor Palpatine - not Darth Sidious. The maniacal tyrant was absolutely different when he was the manipulative cloaked guy.



I blame that on the aforementioned arrogance.

fail and close

Agreed. ^^

Originally posted by Schecter
fail and close

Why?

because despite your fallacious disclaimer, this is in fact a versus thread and has absolutely no place in the PT forum. fact.

Rofl.

I can tell already that you and I are gonna become e-buddies.

Originally posted by Schecter
because despite your fallacious disclaimer, this is in fact a versus thread and has absolutely no place in the PT forum. fact.

Despite your piss-poor reading comprehension, this is in fact, not a versus thread. There's nothing fallacious about it. Versus threads in the Versus section are hypothetical battles in which there is a debate.

I'm asking a simple ****ing question: Did anyone notice a difference between 'Sidious' and 'Palpatine'.

If you don't wanna answer, that's fine. Until then, perhaps you ought to consider acting badass around someone intimidated by it?

And includes EU.

Originally posted by General G
And includes EU.

How does this include EU?

Originally posted by Gideon
Rofl.

I can tell already that you and I are gonna become e-buddies.



Despite your piss-poor reading comprehension, this is in fact, not a versus thread. There's nothing fallacious about it. Versus threads in the Versus section are hypothetical battles in which there is a debate.

I'm asking a simple ****ing question: Did anyone notice a difference between 'Sidious' and 'Palpatine'.

If you don't wanna answer, that's fine. Until then, perhaps you ought to consider acting badass around someone intimidated by it?

"acting badass"? you make a versus thread, claim that it isnt, and then whine, kneejerk, and flail when called on it. hypothertical same-character comparrisons/fights are posted frequently in vs. forums, including SW versus (a reoccuring theme being anakin vs. vader for example)

now you can either embarass yourself some more and rant like a child, or simply post this thread in its proper place. "vs" can simply ask the question of differences/advantages and doesnt have to mean "ZOMG WHOO WINZ INA FIST FIGHT???22"

Originally posted by Alliance
Thanks. I love petunias.

Oh, and when someone makes a thread that is worth contributing too, I'll contribute.

Like this: "I noticed that whenever Darth Sidious was shown in the PT, he always wore a black cloak. You could also never see his eyes. I thought this was really original because he wore the same black cloak in the OT. I felt that was really original. On the other hand, whenever Palpatine was shown, he wore colors and you could see his eyes. There is such an amazing contrast there I never put the two together until Episode III when you see Sidious actually is Palpatine.

This was so cool. Because now you have Palpatine wearing all black in the first scene, just like the old Sidious...then...you have Sidious wearing a bright read flowery burka (apparently someone gave Trisha Biggar too much creative freedom). It was like, their whole IDENTITIES were merging. It was a very scary time. I was shocked.

But then I got all confused because Sidious just went back to wearing a black cloak in the OT...Palpatine must have died or lost his taste for Technicolor robes. But they still call him Palpatine and not Darth Sidious. He must have had a galactic sized identity crisis.

Oh, and I TOTALLY liked Sidious better because his the sound team had way too much fun and they did stuff to his voice on the computer that I also like to do to my voice on the computer and it was so cool because we were like doing the same thing we must be voice brothers."

See? So worthwhile.

And what a terrible actor you are.



This isn't your run-of-the-mill versus thread, as I have already explained in the first post.



Because it isn't a battle between Darth Sidious and Palpatine.



Wrong again, Shecter. If it were a hypothetical fight between them, you'd be right. As it stands, it isn't. It's a "versus" debate only within the context of their characterizations; nothing more.



"Hyperthetical"? Rofl.

This isn't a same character fight. Once again, that's already been explained. Alliance and yourself seem to be suffering from poor reading comprehension. Read the first post.



"Reoccuring"? Rofl.

Anakin and Vader are, by nature, two separate entities. Any basic Star Wars fan knows that.



Embarrass myself?

Says the 33-year-old who can't spell "hypothetical" and 'recurring". You want to lecture me on child mannerisms? This thread is in the proper place already; which you'd know if you read the first post.



This is a discussion of the characterization of Darth Sidious as opposed to Emperor Palpatine. Portrayed by the same actor and yes, they are ultimately the same character. But they are characterized differently due to the plot, in my opinion, and I wanted to see if anyone else saw that.

Hence it belongs here. I see that the 'vs' threw everyone except Tangible God off.

1- you are wrong

2- you appear silly and childish when all you do is hilight typos and post "rofl" and try to assault someone's character.

3- the only one insulting and calling names is you, so who's the real internet badass here?

Gideon, this humble forum isn't like the Versus forums yonder. We don't do the "quote-childish insult-criticism" thing here mate. Leave it out.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Gideon, this humble forum isn't like the Versus forums yonder. We don't do the "quote-childish insult-criticism" thing here mate. Leave it out.

you're a doodoo head

schecter, you're the dram of evil!

slam since it obviously needed to be added

Originally posted by Gideon
This is a discussion of the characterization of Darth Sidious as opposed to Emperor Palpatine. Portrayed by the same actor and yes, they are ultimately the same character. But they are characterized differently due to the plot, in my opinion, and I wanted to see if anyone else saw that.

Wow...different characters characterized differently.

So worth a thread.
Originally posted by ~JP~
slam since it obviously needed to be added


Originally posted by General G

Originally posted by Alliance


Was that really needed?

is this thread really needed?

Handbags at dawn.

Originally posted by Alliance
is this thread really needed?

Not at all.

Moving....

Ok, i think the sith lord wins

Wow, those guys are dumbasses, this isn't a versus thread just because it has versus in the title. It isn't two characters fighting... OMFG.


Anyways, the question is whether you like OT or PT Palpatine better, right? I suppose I like the crazed, senile OT Palpatine, his appearance is more dramatic and he just seems more purely evil. But I like them both.

Originally posted by Schecter
hypothertical same-character comparrisons/fights are posted frequently in vs. forums, including SW versus (a reoccuring theme being anakin vs. vader for example)

"vs" can simply ask the question of differences/advantages and doesnt have to mean "ZOMG WHOO WINZ INA FIST FIGHT???22"

Not true, refer to what mechmoggy states in the Read Me! thread:

Originally posted by mechmoggy
About the matches...

Just post battles here.
This is a "versus" forum. A forum dedicated to Star Wars character matches. Any thread about anything but a match, will get closed.

So you're quite clearly very wrong, as is queeq for moving the thread here.

It's pretty sad that we know the rules better than a ****ing Mod, lol.

Some of you people make me question where exactly humanity is going and how long do we truly have left on this earth with the likes of some of you becoming future leaders of our society.

I'd say both are fvckin hilarious. PT Sidious' evil laughs and psychotic faces make me laugh like nothing else, though. He's stupidly lunatic. In the OT he looks kinda calmer and a bit less psychotic, but I guess he hasn't changed.

I liked PT Sidious better as a character, how he executed his plan, played the Jedi for fools, my little green friend line and i think he stoled the show in ROTS.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Some of you people make me question where exactly humanity is going and how long do we truly have left on this earth with the likes of some of you becoming future leaders of our society.

It is said that the best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter.


Anyway, Gideon, I suggest that you revisit Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader because when it gets into Palpatine's head and his dialogue it shows the melding of the two personalities (more the true corruption behind Palpatine). At least, that's how I remember it, I let my cousin borrow it and I have yet to see it back.

Also, I'm probably leaving the Star Wars Versus. I have a girlfriend and a job, both of which are more productive or fun than being here (no offense). I might still stop by though.