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LotF Luke vs RotS Mace and Kenobi
all out fight

LOTF wtfpwns both

Lets see... Dooku took on ROTS Anakin and Kenobi at the same time (that team is equal to this team, fyi) and gave them a good fight. LotF Luke is what, 3 times as strong as Dooku?

Fight starts. Luke tosses Kenobi into a wall hard enough that kenobi gets knocked out cold. By now Mace is to Luke. Luke whips out his saber. Mace and Luke duel for 10 seconds. Then Mace drops to the ground dead. Luke de-activates his lightsaber, and walks away.


In other words, Luke curbstomps them. Now, if it was DE Luke, that'd be a good fight.

Hadn't we agree that Luke at his best would beat sidious and yoda together? So, how would mace and obi have a chance?

Wait, are you sure Luke's saber skills are that much better then Mace's? You said ten seconds...

I must be missing something about Luke's power. Beat Sidious and Yoda at the same time? You have got to be kidding me.

To be fair, Sidious moves faster than the eye can see and Yoda flips with amazing speed, so more Luke would definitely win the fight, just not sure he'll land the killing blow.

Luke pwns them...

NJO Luke kills both but which Kenobi is this?

It doesn't matter cause Luke pwns them.

Originally posted by vader11
It doesn't matter cause Luke pwns them.


This is true.

Luke at full strength and Mace at full strength? It depends, on arena and space, in close confines, Mace, but in an open space, then it's pretty even.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
Luke at full strength and Mace at full strength? It depends, on arena and space, in close confines, Mace, but in an open space, then it's pretty even.
Lol, no, it doesn't matter, either way, Luke wtf pwns him.

Kenobi and Mace never stood a chance

lol
this is just to funny. luke is strongert than obi wan and mace, but both obi and mace would need 5 secs to kill luke

btw, luke wont stand a chance agains the emperor, and defently not agains both the emperor and yoda >.<

Dude, you know nothing about Luke, do you? Luke would own Sidious as of NJO.

Originally posted by skywalker12
btw, luke wont stand a chance agains the emperor, and defently not agains both the emperor and yoda >.< It is obvious that u know nothin

What has luke done that makes you all think that he could defeat Palpatine alonenono

wow i guess alot of noobs are now on here for some reason. i would post about why luke would win but i have to get to my class. (i'm doing an impromptu speech on the OT the PT and the EU and how they've effected society).

I think they have only watched the movies.

Wasnt mace was described as invisible in his duel against (i think) kar vastor?

Yea, the line in Shatterpoint, goes something like this-

Kar Vastors speed is astonishing, Maces is invisible.

But that was probably meant for Vastor and Mace still lost the hand to hand fight.

this is from wookieepedia

Luke's abilities with a lightsaber and the Force allowed him to fight his way through countless Yuuzhan Vong warriors in the Sacred Precinct. After defeating numerous Yuuzhan Vong warriors in the Citadel Luke defeated more than five Slayers; while Kyp Durron, one of the most powerful Jedi of his time, could not best even the Slayers who were exposed to Alpha Red. Afterwards, Luke slew Supreme Overlord Shimrra Jamaane, who was stated to be the best warrior of the Yuuzhan Vong, despite just being injured by the poison of the Scepter of Power.

so is this

Jacen Solo described Luke in the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar as a maelstrom of Force energy, a Force storm against which there was no shelter. So calm and focused that his actions were not interrupted by any thought. Luke merged with the Force in a degree which seemed the Jedi Master, physically or as an individual personality, not present on the battlefield anymore. Luke's lightsaber blade was described to look like ten or twenty blades moving at once. The Solo twins were astounded by seeing their uncle in such a state.

Luke would be too fast for both of them. OB1 wouldn't be able to defend against him. GG wielding 4 sabers is noting compared to Luke who makes it look like 20 sabers, hell even 10. And Mace can't shatterpoint what he can't see or hit.

Luke takes this with no difficulty at all. If Luke is looking to kill them then this fight wouldn't last more then 1 minute.

exactly...Luke is too much. Add in Yoda and it might make it to 3 minutes just for sentimental reasons.

Sorry for me not knowing but what does LotF stands for???

legacy of the force

Thanks.

I believe he Defeats the team, DE Luke did after all defeat the emperor in a lightsaber duel, somehow I doesn't see the team during that and Luke's power has increased drastically from that point forward.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Yea, the line in Shatterpoint, goes something like this-

Kar Vastors speed is astonishing, Maces is invisible.

But that was probably meant for Vastor and Mace still lost the hand to hand fight.


Actually, it's "But where Vastor's speed is blinding, Mace's was invisible. Not one of those slaps connected".

It's meant for Windu for sure!

OBI was a master of soresu and mace the creator of vaapad,if you combine those two, they are unstoppable. I'm not saying that luke isn't powerful but come on, against mace and OB1 together luke goes

Originally posted by Freakzillawht2
OBI was a master of soresu and mace the creator of vaapad,if you combine those two, they are unstoppable. I'm not saying that luke isn't powerful but come on, against mace and OB1 together luke goes

Vaapad only gives Mace a real advantage over Dark Siders, in which the more evil his opponent is, the greater the advantage. Luke is the opposite end of that spectrum, so the only thing Mace has is great bladework, in which Luke's is greater, and Shatterpoint, in which he must find an employable flaw in an opponent's form who is stronger and faster than anyone he has ever faced.

Obi-Wan's mastery of Soresu is great, but this is an all-out fight. Obi-Wan has shown a particular weakness to strong Force Users, and Luke surely is the greatest ever. Even without the Force, he can take down Obi-Wan extremely quickly without even having to engage Windu yet.

Luke wins, through superior Force and bladework.

Luke goes .

Originally posted by kamikz
Actually, it's "But where Vastor's speed is blinding, Mace's was invisible. Not one of those slaps connected".

It's meant for Windu for sure!

Your annoying

Yea, i know it talks about Windu, i meant that his speed is invisible to Vastor, it wouldn't be invisible for someone like Yoda.

Luke for sure, he is just so much stronger and much more powerful than Mace and Kenobi put together....

I wonder where he gets it from???

Originally posted by skywalker12
lol
this is just to funny. luke is strongert than obi wan and mace, but both obi and mace would need 5 secs to kill luke exactly. Mace trained for forty plus years as a Jedi master, and luke trained for how many?

sorry, Mace and Obi Wan would school Luke.

That doesn't really matter when you are fighting someone with the same potential as Anakin "The Chosen One" Skywalker...

You see, usually it's very tough for even the strongest force users to beat a Skywalker...

LotF Luke takes them both while sitting down in a recliner, reading a book, and enjoying a nice cup of tea.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
exactly. Mace trained for forty plus years as a Jedi master, and luke trained for how many?

sorry, Mace and Obi Wan would school Luke. School luke? I think its vice versa friend, you see for shatterpoint to kick in he would have to detect flaws in his opponents blade work which in this case luke is flawless seeing he could twirl his saber and making it look like there were 20 sabers twirling all over the place.

Pure bladework i might argue mace puts up a fight but ultimately he loses

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Your annoying

Yea, i know it talks about Windu, i meant that his speed is invisible to Vastor, it wouldn't be invisible for someone like Yoda.



"You're* annoying"


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Is the LOTF Luke some kind of God? I heard that he had troubles with Lumiya and Jacen.

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Is the LOTF Luke some kind of God? I heard that he had troubles with Lumiya and Jacen.

Somewhat.

The fight with Lumiya ended rather badly for Luke (even though he still defeated Lumiya) primarily due to circumstances. Lumiya wouldn't fight him "fairly", she instead used the Force to manipulate the minds of several dozen bystanders and civilians into attacking Luke as she did. So Luke had to show impressive restraint to render the bystanders unconscious rather than killing them outright, all the while being attacked by Lumiya. He eventually gained the upper hand until Dark Jedi Alema Rar attacked his wife, Mara Jade. A distracted Luke was then disarmed and badly injured by Lumiya; however, he used the Force to summon a blaster into his hand and shot her six times (if I recall).

As said above, that was mostly due to circumstance. So yeah, Luke had trouble with them, but it wasn't so much because he lacked the skills or because they had them, but because in most instances the odds were stacked against him before the fights even started. However, at other points it's shown that he could pretty much crush them without a whole lot of effort, if he really needed to.

Mace Windu FTW.