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God is great because He good. God is great because He is love. God is great because He is kind. God is great because He is peace. God is great because He is longsuffering. God is great because He is faithful. God is great because He is gentle. God is great because He is omnipotent. God is great because He is omniscient. God is great because He is omnipresent. God is great because He is eternal. God is great because He is Creator. God is great because He is Father. God is great because He is King. God is great because there is no one like Him. God is great because He is life. God is great because He is the Source of all life. God is great because He is worthy of worship. God is great because He is higly exalted. God is great because He is just. God is great because He is light. God is great because He is righteous. God is great because He is Truth. God is great because He is merciful. God is great because He is compassionate. God is great because He is gracious. God is great because He is unchanging. God is great because He is loving-kind. God is great because He is righteous Judge. God is great because He is holy (sinless). God is great because He is a God of hope.

Psalm 150:1-6

1 Praise the LORD!

Praise God in His sanctuary;
Praise Him in His mighty firmament!

2 Praise Him for His mighty acts;
Praise Him according to His excellent greatness!

3 Praise Him with the sound of the trumpet;
Praise Him with the lute and harp!
4 Praise Him with the timbrel and dance;
Praise Him with stringed instruments and flutes!
5 Praise Him with loud cymbals;
Praise Him with clashing cymbals!

6 Let everything that has breath praise the LORD.

Praise the LORD!

He isn't LOVING HE CAUSED DEATH PAIN CRISIS WAR PLAGUE FAMINE PESTILENCE CRUELTY SADISM ANGER STRESS TORTURE EVIL EMOS.

So he's not so great so nice, eh!?

I'm God, so i'm great. Thank you for you compliments JIA

Please close this thread. We already have a god thread.

Pheonix I REPENT YOU!! EVIL ONE AS YOU ARE GOD!!

YEAH CLOSE IT RIGHT NOW RIGHT HERE!!

So, I think this The Grey Fox guy is really just a JIA sock. He is the exact same as JIA, only opposite . Sort of like a real strawman for when he can't argue with us

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
HE CAUSED SADISM

I thank him for that daily

No, man, I'm no sock. I just hate Christianity.

Why would I pick such a random name and avatar, eh? I'm just some guy.

I'm also not the leader of the Illuminati

Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
I'm God, so i'm great. Thank you for you compliments JIA

Sush you. I'm a fookin ace god!!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please close this thread. We already have a god thread.

God is great because He has no peer.

Yeah, coz he created Peers. Foolman, you are a clown and silly person.

/close.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God is great because He has no peer.

Erm...wow, you sure told him

Originally posted by Boris
/close.

God is great because He governs the universe according to His power and wisdom.

if theres sumfin strange in the neighbourhood, who ya gonna call?

GOD BUSTERS!!!

NO HE DOESN'T HE IS NOT REAL

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God is great because He governs the universe according to His power and wisdom.


/close.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
NO HE DOESN'T HE IS NOT REAL

Hello? I'm not invisible. I'm the fookin ace god remember

*Prays to Pheonix* I worship you

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
*Prays to Pheonix* I worship you

Thank you. Now do my exam on monday. only then will you go to heaven and stuff

Originally posted by Burning thought
if theres sumfin strange in the neighbourhood, who ya gonna call?

GOD BUSTERS!!!

God is great because look at what He does to the devil:

Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever

Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
Thank you. Now do my exam on monday. only then will you go to heaven and stuff

Why do you need to take an exam if you are god?

Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
Thank you. Now do my exam on monday. only then will you go to heaven and stuff

OK

Y'know, this is technically blasphemous... cool!

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why do you need to take an exam if you are god?

We're JOKING! GO AWAY YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT FUN IS DO YOU!?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why do you need to take an exam if you are god?

Because i'm the best kind of god: the one that takes exams

closing

This thread's pretty cool now, y'know.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why do you need to take an exam if you are god? Because your God can't write his own damn book.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Because your God can't write his own damn book.

OI!!!! If I can fart the universe into existence, i can certainly write my own damn book

Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
Hello? I'm not invisible. I'm the fookin ace god remember

God is invisible...God is great because He is invisible!

Okay, I am really signing off this time.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God is invisible...God is great because He is invisible!

See, there you go assuming again: god is invisible, god cant take exams. GOD (aka me) is beyond assumption!

Now bugger off please

If God was so great then why does the world look like it does? ermm

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
If God was so great then why does the world look like it does? ermm

Because the devil is the god of this age (i.e. the corrupt world system of which earth is the scene of his activity).

It is easy to be great when you only exist in someone's imaginaition.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God is great because He is invisible!
I always figured it was the other way around, otherwise you could say the same of Claude Rains.

God is Great Because he is a Divine Homosexual Flamer Vampire who has a Gay son named Jesus Christ, and is so gay he creates Gardens like the Garden of Eden and promiscious little man whores like myself.

Goddess Kali is wrong.

God is great because God creates a human life through sex, and the moment a man or a woman climax is a beautiful thing, during climax you even scream God's name OOOH oH OH OH GOD! GAWD!

Thats why God so great

No God is Gay

That's a thought!

The waves in the ocean, the wind in the trees, the moon, the birds singing in the morning, and the general harmony of nature.

Look and you will see, or do you take these wonders for granted?

No, I take it from the greatness of EVOLOTION AND NATURAL SELECTION, BIATCH!

i think if they ever excist/excisted then Satan has by far already won

YAY ANOTHER ONE FOR GOOD OLD SATAN

Originally posted by Burning thought
i think if they ever excist/excisted then Satan has by far already won

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God is great because look at what He does to the devil:

Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever

So. God can't do shit to Satan now, he's out of his reach.

Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
Because i'm the best kind of god: the one that takes exams

But my God is omniscient, do you know what this means?

My God is better than your god.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But my God is omniscient, do you know what this means? Then he is a sick ****, but can't write his own book.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
He isn't LOVING HE CAUSED DEATH PAIN CRISIS WAR PLAGUE FAMINE PESTILENCE CRUELTY SADISM ANGER STRESS TORTURE EVIL EMOS.

So he's not so great so nice, eh!?

Sock? Ban? Justice?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
No nothing I've said is not true, he is a sick **** if he is all-knowing

That is because your are in denial of the facts. You deliberately ignore and fail to acknowledge the Truth, choosing rather to base your estimation of God on your personal circumstances (which are in a state of flux and change with the wind) instead of on His unchanging Word. God's Word reveals His true character not your circumstances, so you should base your understanding of God on His Word.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is because your are in denial of the facts. You deliberately ignore and fail to acknowledge the Truth, choosing rather to base your estimation of God on your personal circumstances (which are in a state of flux and change with the wind) instead of on His unchanging Word. God's Word reveals His true character not your circumstances, so you should base your understanding of God on His Word.

"That is because your are in denial of the facts. You deliberately ignore and fail to acknowledge the Truth. "

I think that fits you quite well.

JESUS LOVES US ALL MAN!!!

those roman dudes smoked too much pot man they need to be murdered by like satan or something

Originally posted by Spliffman
JESUS LOVES US ALL MAN!!!

those roman dudes smoked too much pot man they need to be murdered by like satan or something

Yes He does, but in addition to this He desires to give us all eternal life. It is free and available to all who ask Jesus for it.

Can I ask Jesus for you to die painfully? I think he'd agree with me there.

http://billmaya.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/godnotgreat.gif

Why is god great? Cause he says so biotch.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yes He does, but in addition to this He desires to give us all eternal life. It is free and available to all who ask Jesus for it.

An empty promise.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
An empty promise.

Prove it.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove it.

What do you want me to prove?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What do you want me to prove?

That what I wrote was an empty promise.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That what I wrote was an empty promise.

What did you write?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What did you write?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yes He does, but in addition to this He desires to give us all eternal life. It is free and available to all who ask Jesus for it.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive


What about it?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What about it?

Prove that it is an empty promise.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove that it is an empty promise.

Prove what is an empty promise?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Prove what is an empty promise?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
An empty promise.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What do you want me to prove?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That what I wrote was an empty promise.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What did you write?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yes He does, but in addition to this He desires to give us all eternal life. It is free and available to all who ask Jesus for it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What about it?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove that it is an empty promise.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Prove what is an empty promise?

I posted our entire conversation to prove that you are deliberately trying to avoid answering my question (probably so that you could say that you are behaving like me right?). Well you are wrong.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I posted our entire conversation to prove that you are deliberately trying to avoid answering my question (probably so that you could say that you are behaving like me right?). Well you are wrong.

Very annoying, isn't it? This little game you like to play on people. Now that it has been played on you, maybe you will think twice before doing it again.

An empty promise is something you cannot deliver in this lifetime.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Very annoying, isn't it? This little game you like to play on people. Now that it has been played on you, maybe you will think twice before doing it again.

An empty promise is something you cannot deliver in this lifetime.

How come I knew what you were doing the moment that you started? Besides I do not play games, I sincerely do not know what people are talking about until I go back and research. But cynics don't understand that because they have a paranoid, conspiracy theorist mentality. But I do not believe that you are one of them right Shakyamunison?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How come I knew what you were doing the moment that you started? Besides I do not play games, I sincerely do not know what people are talking about until I go back and research. But cynics don't understand that because they have a paranoid, conspiracy theorist mentality. But I do not believe that you are one of them right Shakyamunison?



Come now, be honest with me. You have too played that game with me, maybe not to the degree that I just did, but I was trying to prove a point.

However, if you are telling the truth, and you just don't remember, then don't post until you have back read.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Come now, be honest with me. You have too played that game with me, maybe not to the degree that I just did, but I was trying to prove a point.

However, if you are telling the truth, and you just don't remember, then don't post until you have back read.

"Come now, be honest with me..."

I am being honest with you (why are you so cynical and vindictive?). Well, did you prove anything to yourself? It proved nothing to me because I wasn't deliberately trying to be difficult with you.

"However, if you are telling the truth."

More cyncism. Wow.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
"Come now, be honest with me..."

I am being honest with you (why are you so cynical and vindictive?). Well, did you prove anything to yourself? It proved nothing to me because I wasn't deliberately trying to be difficult with you.

"However, if you are telling the truth."

More cyncism. Wow.

I have good reason to not trust you. I maybe cynical, but I am not vindictive. I was hoping I could get through to you on something that mattered to me. Well, I failed; you just refuse to get it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have good reason to not trust you. I maybe cynical, but I am not vindictive. I was hoping I could get through to you on something that mattered to me. Well, I failed; you just refuse to get it.

cry

I'm cynical.

How about you?

how man red bulls do you go through on a daily basis JIA?cowboy cheershorsepray

245, I'm guessin'.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have good reason to not trust you. I maybe cynical, but I am not vindictive. I was hoping I could get through to you on something that mattered to me. Well, I failed; you just refuse to get it. As all ways, I know how you feel.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
how man red bulls do you go through on a daily basis JIA?cowboy cheershorsepray

I don't drink Red Bull.

coke

pepsi

wine

u've done a puff or 2 right man though?

Originally posted by Spliffman
u've done a puff or 2 right man though?

Never.

aw why not dude just a small puff will set u off for life man

Originally posted by Spliffman
aw why not dude just a small puff will set u off for life man

It is a sin to get high.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is a sin to get high.

Where does the bible say that?

i know loads of guys who go to church n all that stuff for god but they get high to have fun in life man, u do know what loads of christians get high rite? lol we do lots of stuff!

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is a sin to get high.

Your very close to being in breach of Timothy.

im very sorry man but what is this breach of Timothy? i cant seem to remember, its alot to take in u know! lol

Originally posted by Spliffman
im very sorry man but what is this breach of Timothy? i cant seem to remember, its alot to take in u know! lol

Its the forbidding of things that God has given to man for his enjoyment. A sign of the Anti-Christ...

oh crap man
but loads of people all over the world smoke n get high n go to church!!
man what're we gonna do!?

again with the not reading of people's posts before mine

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Its the forbidding of things that God has given to man for his enjoyment. A sign of the Anti-Christ...

God has not given drugs to humanity for enjoyment.

but like loads of people smoke it, n when smokin was thought it was good for you back in the day it must've been even worse!!?? OH MAN!! (

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God has not given drugs to humanity for enjoyment.

But a spliff isnt a synthetic drug, its a plant.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God has not given drugs to humanity for enjoyment.

how did they get here then?

SATAN PUT THEM THERE!! IT ALL FITS IN PLACE NOW!!!!!

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God has not given drugs to humanity for enjoyment. Drugs were always around. Herbs, plants were always used for common ailments. To make you feel better.

Look at John of Revelation's? He wasn't smokin nothing?? What about that incense that came out of the temple?? Then they ATE....hmm munchies.

thats what I was sayin!! they all smoked it back then it doesnt make any sense!!

Originally posted by Spliffman
thats what I was sayin!! they all smoked it back then it doesnt make any sense!! They used many other thing too like Mandrake. Love love potion..Yet deadly.

David composed a love Psalm about it and mentioned it.....beatious...

Originally posted by debbiejo
They used many other thing too like Mandrake. Love love potion..Yet deadly.

You just make things up.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
You just make things up. No, do a search on the Bible and the word Mandrake....Oh, and it may not have been David, but Solomon in that Psalm.

I have a great link at home, but I am not at home now.....Good stuff in there.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
But a spliff isnt a synthetic drug, its a plant.


It doesn't matter. God has not given drugs to humanity for enjoyment. Just because people take the materials and resources that God created, modify them, misuse them, and abuse them does not mean that God condones or endorses their behavior or activity. God also put all of the preexistent materials for dynamite does that somehow imply that God desires for people to put it in their mouth and light it?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
You just make things up.

to be completely honest my man, drugs come from herbs, and back then, they used herbs for all kinds of things, they didn't know it was drugs, just something to get happy on, eh?

so would they go to hell for that!??!

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It doesn't matter. God has not given drugs to humanity for enjoyment. Just because people take the materials and resources that God created, modify them, misuse them, and abuse them does not mean that God condones or endorses their behavior or activity. God also put all of the preexistent materials for dynamite does that somehow imply that God desires for people to put it in their mouth and light it?

why does god desire to kill innocent people because of religion or die in such painful slow ways even if they live by the bible for him

I'm so confused and you seem to know all the answers to this!! tell me! please!!

Originally posted by inimalist
Where does the bible say that?

Drugs are listed as a "work of the flesh" i.e. a sin.

Originally posted by Spliffman
to be completely honest my man, drugs come from herbs, and back then, they used herbs for all kinds of things, they didn't know it was drugs, just something to get happy on, eh?

so would they go to hell for that!??! True and later the Church made them evil TOO. Even the Nicie nice Christian King Henry the VIII used them for his woes, but it was illegal for anyone like peasents to use them....It was considered witchcraft.

Originally posted by Spliffman
why does god desire to kill innocent people because of religion or die in such painful slow ways even if they live by the bible for him

I'm so confused and you seem to know all the answers to this!! tell me! please!!

Can you be more specific? Can you provide an instance?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs are listed as a "work of the flesh" i.e. a sin. I'll have to find it when I get home. Mandrake is a very strong drug/herb to be used with caution. Yet it was used in the bible.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Can you be more specific? Can you provide an instance?

well I've always wondered about holocaust for one...I just can't understand why god would want to allow such a thing!!

Originally posted by Spliffman
well I've always wondered about holocaust for one...I just can't understand why god would want to allow such a thing!!

I take issue with the semantics of your statement. God does not "want" anything evil to occur; however, God does permit evil because He honors our free wills. He has appointed a Day where He will judge each person's life accordingly.

but people give their love to god and yet he can't stop them from suffering painful deaths...?
it just seems like praying to god would be a waste to me if he can't help me if the time comes...I need to rethink my life it seems

Originally posted by Spliffman
but people give their love to god and yet he can't stop them from suffering painful deaths...?
it just seems like praying to god would be a waste to me if he can't help me if the time comes...I need to rethink my life it seems


The secret things belong to God...it is the glory of God to conceal a matter....For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

Basically our knowledge about why many things happen is limited. That is why faith is so important. We must not allow circumstances and situations to cause our faith in God to waver. We must keep our attention on God because if we focus on what is going on around us it will weaken our faith. Faith is strengthened by staying mindful of God's promises and speaking those promises so that we can hear them, and reading God's Word.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I'll have to find it when I get home. Mandrake is a very strong drug/herb to be used with caution. Yet it was used in the bible.

The Bible--similar to a history book--records the good and bad events of the human experience without justifying them.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs are listed as a "work of the flesh" i.e. a sin.

can you give me the actual reference?

please?

Originally posted by inimalist
can you give me the actual reference?

please?

Standby.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God has not given drugs to humanity for enjoyment.

Jesus made wine, and alcohol is a drug.

Hahaha, can't argue with that.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs are listed as a "work of the flesh" i.e. a sin. So medicine is a sin?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus made wine, and alcohol is a drug.

You incorrectly assume that all wine has alcohol.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
So medicine is a sin?

Are you claiming this? No one on this forum has said that medicine is sinful.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Are you claiming this? No one on this forum has said that medicine is sinful.
A medicine is a drug... It's just a (Hopefully) perscribed and properly dosed one.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You incorrectly assume that all wine has alcohol.
Um... That's true, it's not a bad assumption at all.

How do you know that he was refering to the first definition of Sorcery?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um... That's true, it's not a bad assumption at all.


Ever heard of non-alcoholic wine?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs are not sinful (at least I never stated that they were). Here is what I wrote: So what drugs are bad and which are not, most drugs are used for medical reasons.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How do you know that he was refering to the first definition of Sorcery?

They're all included.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
So what drugs are bad and which are not, most drugs are used for medical reasons.

Drugs not used strictly for medicinal purposes only are being used to get high, and thus are being used inappropriately. That makes the act sinful. Drugs are sinful if they are not used for their intended design and purpose. Drugs should never be used to get high. All narcotics and contraband are not only sinful, but they are illegal.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Ever heard of non-alcoholic wine?
Yeah... It's not true wine, and there'n no reason to think that that's what Jesus created.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs not used strictly for medicinal purposes only are being used to get high, and thus are being used inappropriately. That makes the act sinful. Drugs are sinful if they are not used for their intended design and purpose. Drugs should never be used to get high. All narcotics and contraband are not only sinful, but they are illegal. You don't understand much about drugs do you; almost every narcotic is used for medical purposes and even in the hospital you are getting high, that is why they use them is that it helps to relieve pain.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
They're all included.
No... There's zero reason for you to think that.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah... It's not true wine, and there'n no reason to think that that's what Jesus created.

There is no such animal as true wine.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Ever heard of non-alcoholic wine? I believe that is called fruit juice

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs not used strictly for medicinal purposes only are being used to get high, and thus are being used inappropriately. That makes the act sinful. Drugs are sinful if they are not used for their intended design and purpose. Drugs should never be used to get high. All narcotics and contraband are not only sinful, but they are illegal.
What do you think of medical Marijuana then?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
You don't understand much about drugs do you; almost every narcotic is used for medical purposes and even in the hospital you are getting high, that is why they use them is that it helps to relieve pain.

The situation that you describe falls under the context of medicinal purposes which is in keeping with the intended design and purpose of the drug (just like I said). Hence, I have not erred nor contradicted myself.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is no such animal as true wine.
Yes there is... Ask any winery.

Here, straight from dictionary.com:

"1. the fermented juice of grapes, made in many varieties, such as red, white, sweet, dry, still, and sparkling, for use as a beverage, in cooking, in religious rites, etc., and usually having an alcoholic content of 14 percent or less.
2. a particular variety of such fermented grape juice: port and sherry wines.
3. the juice, fermented or unfermented, of various other fruits or plants, used as a beverage, sauce, etc.: gooseberry wine; currant wine.
4. a dark reddish color, as of red wines.
5. Pharmacology. vinum.
6. something that invigorates, cheers, or intoxicates like wine.
7. British. a. a social gathering at which wine is the major beverage.
b. a party, esp. one held by university students, for drinking wine.

8. Obsolete. intoxication due to the drinking of wine. "

Wine is fermented fruit, almost always grapes... Which gives is alchohal content.

Originally posted by King Kandy
What do you think of medical Marijuana then?

I thought I made the point clear that as long as the drug is being used strictly for medicinal purposes it is not sinful nor illegal. But if the doctor's prescription is not adhered to and the patient begans to smoke more than the doctor has instructed, at that moment that drug is being used inappropriately. Thus, it is illegal and sinful (in my opinion).

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yes there is... Ask any winery.

Here, straight from dictionary.com:

"1. the fermented juice of grapes, made in many varieties, such as red, white, sweet, dry, still, and sparkling, for use as a beverage, in cooking, in religious rites, etc., and usually having an alcoholic content of 14 percent or less.
2. a particular variety of such fermented grape juice: port and sherry wines.
3. the juice, fermented or unfermented, of various other fruits or plants, used as a beverage, sauce, etc.: gooseberry wine; currant wine.
4. a dark reddish color, as of red wines.
5. Pharmacology. vinum.
6. something that invigorates, cheers, or intoxicates like wine.
7. British. a. a social gathering at which wine is the major beverage.
b. a party, esp. one held by university students, for drinking wine.

8. Obsolete. intoxication due to the drinking of wine. "

Wine is fermented fruit, almost always grapes... Which gives is alchohal content.

There is fermented wine and there is un-fermented wine: both are wine.

You said this "All narcotics and contraband are not only sinful, but they are illegal. "

Now you say only overdosing with them is sinful.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is fermented wine and there is un-fermented wine: both are wine.
No, not at all.... By the very definition (Which I provided) wine MUST be fermented. Otherwise it's just grape juice, which is NOT wine.

Here, here are some other dictionaries definitions:

The American Heritage Dictionary:

"A beverage made of the fermented juice of any of various kinds of grapes, usually containing from 10 to 15 percent alcohol by volume.
A beverage made of the fermented juice of any of various other fruits or plants.
Something that intoxicates or exhilarates.
The color of red wine. "

Wordnet:

"1. fermented juice (of grapes especially)
2. a red as dark as red wine "

Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary:

"Main Entry: wine
Pronunciation: 'wIn
Function: noun
1 : fermented grape juice containing varying percentages of alcohol together with ethers and esters that give it bouquet and flavor
2 : a pharmaceutical preparation using wine as a vehicle "




They ALL say wine must be fermented. Which is true.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, not at all.... By the very definition (Which I provided) wine MUST be fermented. Otherwise it's just grape juice, which is NOT wine.

Here, here are some other dictionaries definitions:

The American Heritage Dictionary:

"A beverage made of the fermented juice of any of various kinds of grapes, usually containing from 10 to 15 percent alcohol by volume.
A beverage made of the fermented juice of any of various other fruits or plants.
Something that intoxicates or exhilarates.
The color of red wine. "

Wordnet:

"1. fermented juice (of grapes especially)
2. a red as dark as red wine "

Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary:

"Main Entry: wine
Pronunciation: 'wIn
Function: noun
1 : fermented grape juice containing varying percentages of alcohol together with ethers and esters that give it bouquet and flavor
2 : a pharmaceutical preparation using wine as a vehicle "




They ALL say wine must be fermented. Which is true.

Tell that to the non-alcoholic wine industry.

http://www.arielvineyards.com/wines.html

Non-Alcoholic Wines & Beers

"The legal definition of non-alcoholic, is a product that contains less than 1/2 of 1% of alcohol. (This is less alcohol than most fresh squeezed orange juice). Alcohol is a natural by product of the fermentation
process. It is impossible to remove all the alcohol."

http://www.travelenvoy.com/wine/nonalcoholic.htm

Originally posted by King Kandy
You said this "All narcotics and contraband are not only sinful, but they are illegal. "

Now you say only overdosing with them is sinful.

Show me the quote where I said,

only overdosing with them is sinful

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The situation that you describe falls under the context of medicinal purposes which is in keeping with the intended design and purpose of the drug (just like I said). Hence, I have not erred nor contradicted myself. So it is not drugs that are bad but the person or act, please make up your mind. Now what makes the use of drugs medical? Does it have to be given by a doctor at a hospital?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Tell that to the non-alcoholic wine industry.

http://www.arielvineyards.com/wines.html

Non-Alcoholic Wines & Beers

"The legal definition of non-alcoholic, is a product that contains less than 1/2 of 1% of alcohol. (This is less alcohol than most fresh squeezed orange juice). Alcohol is a natural by product of the fermentation
process. It is impossible to remove all the alcohol."

http://www.travelenvoy.com/wine/nonalcoholic.htm So then alcohol is not bad if it is impossible to remove it, so Jesus wasn't able to remove it? By the way that is the modern definition of non-alcoholic wine, they didn't have that back 2000 years ago, that is a law of man which you said doesn't apply to God.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
So it is not drugs that are bad but the person or act, please make up your mind. Now what makes the use of drugs medical? Does it have to be given by a doctor at a hospital?

My mind has already been made up. I have not deviated from anything that I have stated at the outset about drugs. Show me the quote where I said that drugs (per se) were bad. I stated that according to the Bible drugs are listed as a work of the flesh (but it is referring to the use of drugs in a negative vein).