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Jesus drank my urine. Enough with the stupid threads.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Jesus drank my urine. Enough with the stupid threads.


We were getting off topic.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
The whole post is about getting drunk, not drinking at all. Read you own post, and yes they do know for an absolute fact what makes some handle alcohol more than others and not only what but can measure it and duplicate it.

That is not what I inferred from it.

Washington had two on the vine
I mean two pairs of testicles
So divine

You don't need to make a new thread for each and every bit of your bullshit, it's not that funny.

Originally posted by Boris
You don't need to make a new thread for each and every bit of your bullshit, it's not that funny.


The thread had nothing to do with drugs or alcohol.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
My reasoning is better then yours.

More assumptions.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is not what I inferred from it. That is only because you read what you want from it, in all references in that post it talked about getting drunk not drinking, back then it was safer to drink wine than water and they didn't have the capability to make non-alcoholic wine which would have even been deadlier with the already tainted water and no way to refrigerate it.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
That is only because you read what you want from it, in all references in that post it talked about getting drunk not drinking, back then it was safer to drink wine than water and they didn't have the capability to make non-alcoholic wine which would have even been deadlier with the already tainted water and no way to refrigerate it.


Read the links on page one.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Read the links on page one. I have, why do you think I posted what I did, you need to read it again.

Guess you didn't read this either
http://www.gotquestions.org/sin-alcohol.html

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I have, why do you think I posted what I did, you need to read it again.

Those two links are brand new. There were ways to remove the alcoholic content of wine (read the first link).

Why would you want to remove the alcohol? No fun there at all.

Not getting drunk, from your own faith. This is why I say rubbish and your view is skewed.

http://www.thebiblespeaks.com/Donts/drinking.htm
http://www.scionofzion.com/drinking.htm

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are reading selectively, besides Jesus would not do anything that raises any suspicion about His character or sinlessness. Jesus lived a sinless life; therefore, all suppositions about whether He drank or made alcoholic wine would be centered on the axis of His sinlessness. What if drinking alcohol is not a sin though?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What if drinking alcohol is not a sin though?

I don't believe that it is but there is the principle of avoiding the appearance of evil or not becoming a stumbling block to someone who has a weakness for it.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I don't believe that it is but there is the principle of avoiding the appearance of evil or not becoming a stumbling block to someone who has a weakness for it.

Cool. Do you believe Jesus drank alcohol?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Cool. Do you believe Jesus drank alcohol?

No, I believe that Jesus drank the fruit of the vine (i.e. grape juice).

Paul said to his followers: Eat so that you will not be drunk when I come.

He didn't say NEVER DRINK, IT'S A SIN.

And remember the Jews are the authors of the OT and they on the celebration of the Easter story ...gets drunk until they cannot talk...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Paul said to his followers: Eat so that you will not be drunk when I come.

He didn't say NEVER DRINK, IT'S A SIN.

Chapter and verse please.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Chapter and verse please. I sure wish I had my concordance, but I have just moved and it's in storage,...Yet this is true.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I sure wish I had my concordance, but I have just moved and it's in storage,...Yet this is true.

Go here and type in some key words or phrases. You can also update translations of the Bible as necessary.

http://www.biblegateway.com/

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are reading selectively, besides Jesus would not do anything that raises any suspicion about His character or sinlessness. Jesus lived a sinless life; therefore, all suppositions about whether He drank or made alcoholic wine would be centered on the axis of His sinlessness. That is where you are assuming and your view is skewed, even in your own faith they debate if it was wine or grape juice so how can you be so sure that it was or wasn't. Even the references in the Bible that you and I have posted contradict each other. That part that I selectively read is what I'm referring to and is very important to the rest of the article is that they are making a post that it could be.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
That is where you are assuming and your view is skewed, even in your own faith they debate if it was wine or grape juice so how can you be so sure that it was or wasn't. Even the references in the Bible that you and I have posted contradict each other. That part that I selectively read is what I'm referring to and is very important to the rest of the article is that they are making a post that it could be.

Because I know Jesus. Don't you know your wife? Would you assume that your wife would do anything unbecoming of her? The principle is the same here. The Bibles states that Jesus never sinned.

Useless thread.

It does not matter if Jesus drank or not.

Probably did though.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Because I know Jesus. Don't you know your wife? Would you assume that your wife would do anything unbecoming of her? The principle is the same here. The Bibles states that Jesus never sinned. No you don't know Jesus because you only read about him, and others of your faith that "know" Jesus said that it is OK to drink just not get drunk. Why do you feel that you are do right and other that belief and know Jesus say different? If you simply say that you feel this way or I think, that would be different but you do not use these terms.

For your assumption to be valid drinking would have to be a sin, and that is what is in question in the Bible and in your faith is if drink is a sin or getting drunk is a sin so until your faith or God comes down and re-writes the Bible and says different that statement is incorrect.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There were ways just because you are not aware of them does not negate them (not to mention that the Romans perhaps did it).

There is a legend that the Romans knew how to preserve grape juice, but it has been tested and it does not work. Also the Jews would not use a Roman method that called on their gods to help them.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Chapter and verse please.

You wouldn't believe her anyway. You pick and choose from the bible.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
No you don't know Jesus because you only read about him, and others of your faith that "know" Jesus said that it is OK to drink just not get drunk. Why do you feel that you are do right and other that belief and know Jesus say different? If you simply say that you feel this way or I think, that would be different but you do not use these terms.

For your assumption to be valid drinking would have to be a sin, and that is what is in question in the Bible and in your faith is if drink is a sin or getting drunk is a sin so until your faith or God comes down and re-writes the Bible and says different that statement is incorrect.

To some people drinking is a sin. Again, the Bible clearly states that Jesus drank fruit of the vine (i.e. grape juice).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Because I know Jesus. Don't you know your wife? Would you assume that your wife would do anything unbecoming of her? The principle is the same here. The Bibles states that Jesus never sinned.

You don't know Jesus. And you certainly don't know him like you know your wife.

From a Christian point of view, if you knew Jesus you wouldn't always assume you are always above other religeons and beliefs. And you wouldn't be constantly informing people that you knew him and that they should just take your word for it.

And from any other point of view, you don't know somebody until you have met them.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Because I know Jesus. Don't you know your wife? Would you assume that your wife would do anything unbecoming of her? The principle is the same here. The Bibles states that Jesus never sinned. But you sayed that drinking wine wasn't a sin...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
To some people drinking is a sin. Again, the Bible clearly states that Jesus drank fruit of the vine (i.e. grape juice).

fruit of the vine = wine not grape juice

wine = alcohol

Jesus drank the fruit of the vine = Jesus drank alcohol.

You can rationalize all you like, but a fact is a fact.

Originally posted by Quark_666
You don't know Jesus. And you certainly don't know him like you know your wife.

From a Christian point of view, if you knew Jesus you wouldn't always assume you are always above other religeons and beliefs. And you wouldn't be constantly informing people that you knew him and that they should just take your word for it.

And from any other point of view, you don't know somebody until you have met them.

Like I said I know Jesus. I have not constantly informed anyone of knowing Jesus. I wrote that to PITT_HAPPENS because it was apropos.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Like I said I know Jesus. I have not constantly informed anyone of knowing Jesus. I wrote that to PITT_HAPPENS because it was apropos.

Jesus died 2000 years ago, unless you mean that you are an authority on the historical figure Jesus, you are delusional.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus died 200 years ago, unless you mean that you are an authority on the historical figure Jesus, you are delusional.

That's the Mormon Jesus

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's the Mormon Jesus

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's the Mormon Jesus

I seem to have dropped a zero. Fix it. thanks

JIA would not of understood my post otherwise.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I seem to have dropped a zero. Fix it. thanks

JIA would not of understood my post otherwise.

If I didn't understand it then why did I laugh at Bardock42's observation?

Originally posted by Boris
Useless thread.

It does not matter if Jesus drank or not.

Probably did though.


Prove it or lose it.

I don't have to prove it.

It's God's word, he loves Steve.

Thumbs up for Steve!

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
If I didn't understand it then why did I laugh at Bardock42's observation?

Years of practice at not getting jokes?

Originally posted by Boris
I don't have to prove it.

It's God's word, he loves Steve.

Thumbs up for Steve!

Lose it or prove it.

Does it matter if he drank? Life without mind altering substances = a bit of a bore.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Lose it or prove it.

Well, that's kinda hypocritical now. You have a lot of faith things that you can't really prove either.

Originally posted by Boris
I don't have to prove it.

It's God's word, he loves Steve.

Thumbs up for Steve!

Thumbs up! Go Steve!

Originally posted by Boris
Thumbs up! Go Steve!

It prove or lose.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
To some people drinking is a sin. Again, the Bible clearly states that Jesus drank fruit of the vine (i.e. grape juice).

It is not clear and it is not proof, the assumption is that it is wine not grape juice.Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Like I said I know Jesus. I have not constantly informed anyone of knowing Jesus. I wrote that to PITT_HAPPENS because it was apropos. Like I said you do not, you have only read about him and not even in his own words but the wittings of others.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It prove or lose.

Steve does not require proof.

He is great.

JIA, do you drink?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
If I didn't understand it then why did I laugh at Bardock42's observation?

I don't know why you do what you do. How the sinless ambassador of god and saint should act is beyond me.

Originally posted by Boris
Steve does not require proof.

He is great.

It lose or prove (how many different variations of this phrase have I done so far?)

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It lose or prove (how many different variations of this phrase have I done so far?)

Too many.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
JIA, do you drink?

I plead the fifth.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I plead the fifth.

That would be a yes.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That would be a yes.

Prove it.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove it.

I was replying to this:

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I plead the fifth.

You know that any time someone pleads the fifth, they are guilty but don't want to testify against themselves.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You know that any time someone pleads the fifth, they are guilty but don't want to testify against themselves.

Not always true. A good prosecutor can make an innocent person look totally guilty.

Its a burden of the state, and you don't have to help them. And if the prosecution says that, a mistrial is declared.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I was replying to this:



You know that any time someone pleads the fifth, they are guilty but don't want to testify against themselves.

But I am merely exercising my constitutional right.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But I am merely exercising my constitutional right.



The Fifth doesn't actually apply here because you're not under oath in a court of law.

So answer the question: do you drink? (hint: Nobody will hold it against you)

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The Fifth doesn't actually apply here because you're not under oath in a court of law.

So answer the question: do you drink? (hint: Nobody will hold it against you)

The fifth does apply.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The fifth does apply.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The fifth does apply.



So, you drink...

Is drinking a sin?

Originally posted by Boris
Is drinking a sin? According to JIA, yes. According to the Bible, it is in debate.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
According to JIA, yes. According to the Bible, it is in debate.

Then Jesus sinned. Or maybe drinking is not a sin, but over drinking is.

Marriage at Cana, debate ended.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Marriage at Cana, debate ended.

Explain please.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Explain please.

Jesus (at the behest of Mary) changed water into wine, he wouldn't A) makes wine if it was a Sin, or B) Go on to drink it if it was a Sin.

Mary wouldn't have requested it if it was a sin either.

Originally posted by Boris
Is drinking a sin?
No.
Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
According to JIA, yes. According to the Bible, it is in debate.
JIA> Idiot
Bible> Its a gift given from God for man to enjoy...sensibly.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Jesus (at the behest of Mary) changed water into wine, he wouldn't A) makes wine if it was a Sin, or B) Go on to drink it if it was a Sin.

Mary wouldn't have requested it if it was a sin either.

According to JIA it was grape juice. What do you say?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
According to JIA it was grape juice. What do you say?

It wasn't.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
It wasn't.

Can you give some support that JIA will listen too? I agree with you in that I think it was wine with alcohol in it, but JIA will not believe me. But I could tell him that the sky is blue and he would not believe me.

According to the biblical and traditional witness, (1) alcohol is a good gift of God that is rightly used for making the heart merry, and (2) while its dangers are real, it may be used wisely and moderately rather than being shunned or prohibited because of potential abuse. Moderationism holds that temperance (that is, moderation or self-control) in all of one's behavior, not abstinence, is the biblical norm.



In dealing with drunkenness at the love feast in Corinth, St. Paul does not require total abstinence from drink but love for one another that would express itself in moderate, selfless behavior

Probably is a sin.. but who cares.

Drinking is hella fun.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The fifth does apply.

yeah...a fifth of vodka, gin, Jack, tequila..

cheers

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The Fifth doesn't actually apply here because you're not under oath in a court of law.

So answer the question: do you drink? (hint: Nobody will hold it against you)

You don't have to be under oath to plead the fifth.

Originally posted by Boris
Probably is a sin.. but who cares.

Drinking is hella fun.

It isn't.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
You don't have to be under oath to plead the fifth. In this case, yes it does

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
It isn't.

I don't get drunk.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't get drunk. You are always drunk

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't get drunk.

Then your not sinning!

If drinking is a sin... or getting drunk is a sin... then put me down for sin highway this weekend.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
You are always drunk

I do like a good dark beer, or a fine wine, but it would take me all night to drink two beers.

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
If drinking is a sin... or getting drunk is a sin... then put me down for sin highway this weekend.

Do you like hangovers? Or the dehydration that comes with over drinking? Or being out of control?

If something is a sin, then the consequences of your actions will kick you in the butt swiftly.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do like a good dark beer, or a fine wine, but it would take me all night to drink two beers. Not a big fan of dark beers but it takes me all night to drink two beers, as long as the night is two minutes long

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Not a big fan of dark beers but it takes me all night to drink two beers, as long as the night is two minutes long

I used to be that same way, but now a Genuss is a little on the light side for me.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you like hangovers? Or the dehydration that comes with over drinking? Or being out of control?

If something is a sin, then the consequences of your actions will kick you in the butt swiftly. Im not prone to hangovers thankfully. Ive only had one.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I used to be that same way, but now a Genuss is a little on the light side for me.

I'm not a cheap date anymore, takes like 6 beers to get a warm feeling anymore

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS


I'm not a cheap date anymore, takes like 6 beers to get a warm feeling anymore

I get that warm feeling after one beer, and I still have money in my pocket. Who is better off?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I get that warm feeling after one beer, and I still have money in my pocket. Who is better off? cry

6-8 beers ... or ... a few tall margaritas on ice
wine is okish... not my cup of tea usually.

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
6-8 beers ... or ... a few tall margaritas on ice
wine is okish... not my cup of tea usually.

WOW I like this. We have turned an otherwise stupid thread into an OTF how many beers dose it take for you to get off thread.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
WOW I like this. We have turned an otherwise stupid thread into an OTF how many beers dose it take for you to get off thread.

Drunk I would need about 10 to 12 tall beers, or 4 to 5 shots. I can drink beer like a fish but I'm not to good with the hard stuff.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
WOW I like this. We have turned an otherwise stupid thread into an OTF how many beers dose it take for you to get off thread. I thought about that too


Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS


Drunk I would need about 10 to 12 tall beers, or 4 to 5 shots. I can drink beer like a fish but I'm not to good with the hard stuff. If you do shots, what are they of?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS


Drunk I would need about 10 to 12 tall beers, or 4 to 5 shots. I can drink beer like a fish but I'm not to good with the hard stuff.

I can drink a lot of Vodka without it making me drunk, but I'm also of Russia heritage.

Rum, Rock Stars or what ever. I don't have one that I always do, I like to mix it up when I'm doing them, mostly I like the names

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Rum, Rock Stars or what ever. I don't have one that I always do, I like to mix it up when I'm doing them, mostly I like the names

Rum? I will not touch it. It will make me sick.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS


Drunk I would need about 10 to 12 tall beers, or 4 to 5 shots. I can drink beer like a fish but I'm not to good with the hard stuff.

What are "tall" beers?

Originally posted by Boris
What are "tall" beers?

The 16 oz. ones.

Rum is good.... so curious if anyone knows.... how far back time does liquor go?

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Rum is good.... so curious if anyone knows.... how far back time does liquor go?

Well, in the past water was not always safe. Beer is a good way of intaking water without the risk.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The 16 oz. ones. And above Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Rum is good.... so curious if anyone knows.... how far back time does liquor go? Depends on what you are looking for, as for wine no one really knows.

Tall beer cans are normal cans.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, in the past water was not always safe. Beer is a good way of intaking water without the risk. yeah, thats what got me to wondering about it. And then... how young were the children back in the day when they were offered 'spirits' of sorts.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
And above Depends on what you are looking for, as for wine no one really knows. 40's

Originally posted by Boris
Tall beer cans are normal cans.

http://www.beernight.org/photos/200112155.jpg


Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
yeah, thats what got me to wondering about it. And then... how young were the children back in the day when they were offered 'spirits' of sorts.

40's

Children need to drink water also.

40's what?

Yeah that's the normal size.

Only small can's you can get here are Bud Lite.. but no one drinks that piss.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
http://www.beernight.org/photos/200112155.jpg




Children need to drink water also.

40's what? Im aware of children needing water.


40's Though you dont see them everywhere.

I have found proof that he drank wine and which one, it is still made today.

http://www.avenuevine.com/movabletype/archives/jesusjuiceL-w.jpg

Originally posted by Boris
Yeah that's the normal size.

Only small can's you can get here are Bud Lite.. but no one drinks that piss.

Bud lite...puke

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I have found proof that he drank wine and which one, it is still made today.

http://www.avenuevine.com/movabletype/archives/jesusjuiceL-w.jpg

Jesus wouldn't drink ****in merlot!!! lol @ Sideways.

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Im aware of children needing water.


40's Though you dont see them everywhere.

OK thanks.

Fruit of the vine is Wine.

Jesus enjoyed getting wasted on wine, smoking alot of pot, and many homosexual orgy's, these are well known facts, supported by the Bible.

Fruit of the Vine is grapes.

Originally posted by Boris
Yeah that's the normal size.

Only small can's you can get here are Bud Lite.. but no one drinks that piss.

Haha, come on, that's a little oversized.

http://www.washjeff.edu/capl/images/l/1461.jpg

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Chapter and verse please.

Jesus drank fruit of the vine (i.e. grape juice).

Wrong, Jesus did drink wine (i.e. grape juice with alcohol); Jesus admits this himself.

"For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and
you say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of Man came eating and drinking,
and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax
collectors and "sinners."'" (Luke 7:33-34)

"A jar of wine vinegar was there, so they soaked a sponge in it, put
the sponge on a stalk of the hyssop plant, and lifted it to Jesus'
lips. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished."
With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit." (John 19:29-30)

Also, during the last supper, the apostles along with Jesus were all getting wasted off alcohol, they weren't sipping grape juice.

Originally posted by Boris
Yeah that's the normal size.


Normal size is about 500 ml. The one shown, was about 668ml AKA a pint can, that's not the normal size.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Chapter and verse please.

Jesus drank fruit of the vine (i.e. grape juice). OK, now you are just getting ridiculous. You say that it was non-alcoholic wine, then grape juice but post quotes saying that it is wine.

Matthew 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."

Mark 14:25 "Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."

Luke 22:18 "For I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes."

So it is a sin to drink grape juice?

I'm going to report JIA for not being able to handle the truth.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I'm going to report JIA for not being able to handle the truth.

That is very hypocritical of you.

Good one.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Normal size is about 500 ml. The one shown, was about 668ml AKA a pint can, that's not the normal size.

Yeah you're right, 500ml is the norm. I thought that was one too, but a 668ml can? Very random number, why not a 670? Or 700ml?

Yeah I thought that, but I bought 4 668ml Foster's earlier and the reason it's that size, is that it pours into a perfect pint.

Let me lay it on the line
He had two on the vine
I mean two pairs of testicles
So divine

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I'm going to report JIA for not being able to handle the truth.

Hey, the truth cannot handle me.


dance

As in the Gospel? Are you saying you're better than the Gospel, JIA?

WHO GIVES A **** IF JESUS DRANK ALCOHOLIC/NONALCOHOLIC WINE? THE BIBLE IS NOT AGAINST DRINKING.

There's a vicar in my local who drinks like a fish.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
There's a vicar in my local who drinks like a fish.

Originally posted by FeceMan
WHO GIVES A **** IF JESUS DRANK ALCOHOLIC/NONALCOHOLIC WINE? THE BIBLE IS NOT AGAINST DRINKING. I must say that was basically the point I was trying to make.


Also, what ****ing moron posted such a large pic. ****ing *******.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Hey, the truth cannot handle me.


dance Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
OK, now you are just getting ridiculous. You say that it was non-alcoholic wine, then grape juice but post quotes saying that it is wine.

Matthew 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."

Mark 14:25 "Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."

Luke 22:18 "For I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes."

So it is a sin to drink grape juice? Answer please

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Answer please

Well, some people incorrectly interpret the phrase fruit of the vine to mean wine. I firmly believe that it simply denotes grape juice.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How could it say

"don't drink fruit of the vine"?

I have never said that and that phrase is nowhere near the Bible. Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
OK, now you are just getting ridiculous. You say that it was non-alcoholic wine, then grape juice but post quotes saying that it is wine.

Matthew 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."

Mark 14:25 "Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."

Luke 22:18 "For I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes."

So it is a sin to drink grape juice?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS


I see where you got tangled up. Jesus was not saying that it was a sin to drink the fruit of the vine. He was simply stating that He would no longer drink it because He was about to be crucified. He will drink it again some time in the future after He comes to take His church out of here.

Sure he will.... sure he will.

He's no Steve though.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I see where you got tangled up. Jesus was not saying that it was a sin to drink the fruit of the vine. He was simply stating that He would no longer drink it because He was about to be crucified. He will drink it again some time in the future after He comes to take His church out of here. So he will not drink grape juice because of why? Now you are back tracking again.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
So he will not drink grape juice because of why? Now you are back tracking again.

?

I just told you why.

Gotta run, signing off now.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
?

I just told you why.

Originally posted by FeceMan
WHO GIVES A **** IF JESUS DRANK ALCOHOLIC/NONALCOHOLIC WINE? THE BIBLE IS NOT AGAINST DRINKING.

I don't think I can read that

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I'm going to report JIA for not being able to handle the truth.

http://www.cracked.com/jp/quotestruth.jpg

"You can't handle the truth!"