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I wanna see what everyone thinks on this one.

The fights in the same city in the movie, but there are absolutely no innocent civilians or soldiers around or F-22's flying over. The city is completely deserted.

Megatron ftw

So u dont think Prime was holding back in the movie?

I think Prime was new to the whole hand to hand combat aspect. I mean, he's not a machine of war like Megatron is, his fighting chops in the movie weren't that great because it's no his job to attempt to kill. Ya know?

Originally posted by Scythe
I think Prime was new to the whole hand to hand combat aspect. I mean, he's not a machine of war like Megatron is, his fighting chops in the movie weren't that great because it's no his job to attempt to kill. Ya know?

Its his job not to kill innocents, but those who oppose him? Ya sure, he didnt seem to hesitate when decapitating Bonecrusher.
I actually think Prime would fare alot better against Megatron in a rematch in this scenario and possibly even take a majority.

That is, of course if Megatron doesnt play it cheap and just keep away from Prime by flying high enough out of harms way and just shoot Opt from there, but I think Megs will fight Prime honorably, so I say Prime could win a majority here.

Originally posted by braz
Its his job not to kill innocents, but those who oppose him? Ya sure, he didnt seem to hesitate when decapitating Bonecrusher.
I actually think Prime would fare alot better against Megatron in a rematch in this scenario and possibly even take a majority.

that doesn't mean he's meant to kill. Optimus was built to be passive, hence the fact that he chose to be a truck, not a tank or another tool of war, their nature is to be peaceful. Which is why he wouldn't be the best at fighting. But he'd still kick ass.

Originally posted by Scythe
that doesn't mean he's meant to kill. Optimus was built to be passive, hence the fact that he chose to be a truck, not a tank or another tool of war, their nature is to be peaceful. Which is why he wouldn't be the best at fighting. But he'd still kick ass.

Yeah he wasnt built to kill, but that doesnt mean anything, he still proved he could and would, and if he wasnt made to fight, then why does he have weapons?

Megatron FTW

Its hard to say but I think Prime could take a slight majority.

On any given day, one of them can win the match. The cartoon showed this. In the film Megatron was fresh and angry, having been in statis lock for a few thousand years. Optimus was concerned about protecting Sam and had his back turned for Megatron to attack at one point. Megatron had the advantage late; maybe Prime could have pulled out some reserve energy to win, but the F-22s bombed Megatron at that point, making the point moot.

prime was pretty much at war with megatron the whole time they were on cybertron, as the prequel suggests. also in the prequel, megatron was a lord in cybertron and him and prime pretty much ran the planet good cop-bad cop style. but megatron wanted more power. that's when the war started. cybertron was divided into 2 factions... autobots and decipticons as we've come to know them.

so saying that prime is not well equiped for combat is simply misconstrued. although he is not as aggressive as megatron. but in an all out battle with nothing-- absolutely no collateral damage at all-- to hold back prime, he can trump megatron.

Originally posted by braz
Yeah he wasnt built to kill, but that doesnt mean anything, he still proved he could and would, and if he wasnt made to fight, then why does he have weapons?

I read somewhere that all cybertronians had weapon capabilities, some chose to use them as work tools or some crap like that.

Originally posted by Scythe
I read somewhere that all cybertronians had weapon capabilities, some chose to use them as work tools or some crap like that.

Interesting.

Megatron ftw

megatron is signifacantly more powerful than prime and as most of the decepticons are far better warriors, if it wasn't or the army and sam prime would have been anniated

Originally posted by braz
Interesting.

Yeah, never really got that.

I don't think a rematch would matter. For starters, Megatron is noticeably bigger than prime, and much more powerful. I mean come on. Prime shot at him with his arm cannon and it just slowed Megatron down for a second, and then after that Megatron blew him into the side of a building. Megatron wasn't intended to be equal to Prime in this movie, he was portrayed as the unstoppable monster that everyone has to team up on in order to defeat.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
I don't think a rematch would matter. For starters, Megatron is noticeably bigger than prime, and much more powerful. I mean come on. Prime shot at him with his arm cannon and it just slowed Megatron down for a second, and then after that Megatron blew him into the side of a building. Megatron wasn't intended to be equal to Prime in this movie, he was portrayed as the unstoppable monster that everyone has to team up on in order to defeat.

Yeah, I thought they overpowered him too much in the film. It was an alright idea, but G1 Optimus vs. G1 Megatron were pretty much well rounded with Megatron beating out Optimus only in the field of speed.

^So u dont think he held back in the new film?

Originally posted by braz
^So u dont think he held back in the new film?

Well, it's hard to tell, because to me, it seemed that Megatron was alittle to fast for Optimus. I mean seriously, Optimus' reaction time was crap compared Megatron's. Not to mention the fact that Optimus was keeping tabs on the dumbass kid Sam and probably not wanting to cause a whole amount of damage to the city. So I suppose he did hold back alittle.

Whatever happened to Optimus Prime's sword during his fight with Megatron? 313

i think you have all missed out the most important factor.
Prime has THE TOUCH.
seriously though in your heart of hearts you know prime would absolutely **** megatron. its OPTIMUS ****ING PRIME for crying out loud. he is the hero of every straight male. think of the original movie when prime is getting shot at and slashed up by megatron the BAM BEST UPPERCUT EVER. then when gay rod gives megatron the advantage megatron is pointing a gun at primes head then prime goes NEVER and ****ing kills megatron. now i know this movie is different but it is still Prime

Exactly, Superboy...!

Lord mohahats right too. This Prime was a pussy.

The reason Bay's Meagretron outclassed, outarmed, outpowered, outsized, outsped and generally outpimped Bay's Prime was so that he could essentially be beating up on Prime 'til a small boy was (totally unbelievebly) able to kill him at a lazyily written "Oooooh arent we humans great" conclusion that saved subjecting the poor demographic audience to a fight plot that would have even remotely pertained
to the accepted Prime/Megatron versusness.

G1 Megatron, with Witwicky right under his fist in striking range, fully warned after hearing Prime tell the fleshling to attempt to kill Megatron by pushing the cube in his chest, would've simply mashed Witwicky into the sidewalk.

Its writing like that that makes me think that those striking writers shouldn't be entitled to their cut til they stop writing garbage.

Originally posted by roughrider
On any given day, one of them can win the match. The cartoon showed this. In the film Megatron was fresh and angry, having been in statis lock for a few thousand years. Optimus was concerned about protecting Sam and had his back turned for Megatron to attack at one point. Megatron had the advantage late; maybe Prime could have pulled out some reserve energy to win, but the F-22s bombed Megatron at that point, making the point moot.

QFTT

I'd still like to see what happens in part 2, the rematch might be better.

Prime ftw

He might've, but then again movie prime was not exactly meant to be a fighter, he did what was right against the Decepticon under the freeway, but against Megs, yeah, I dunno...

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Exactly, Superboy...!

Lord mohahats right too. This Prime was a pussy.

The reason Bay's Meagretron outclassed, outarmed, outpowered, outsized, outsped and generally outpimped Bay's Prime was so that he could essentially be beating up on Prime 'til a small boy was (totally unbelievebly) able to kill him at a lazyily written "Oooooh arent we humans great" conclusion that saved subjecting the poor demographic audience to a fight plot that would have even remotely pertained
to the accepted Prime/Megatron versusness.

G1 Megatron, with Witwicky right under his fist in striking range, fully warned after hearing Prime tell the fleshling to attempt to kill Megatron by pushing the cube in his chest, would've simply mashed Witwicky into the sidewalk.

Its writing like that that makes me think that those striking writers shouldn't be entitled to their cut til they stop writing garbage.
You are to Transformers movies as Mr. Parker is to Spider-man movies.

Heroic Prime wasn't so heroic towards the end of the film.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
You are to Transformers movies as Mr. Parker is to Spider-man movies.

Now now.




If by that you mean "angrily disappointed by a wasted opportunity",
then I can't disagree.

But there are good arguments coming from both sides. When the movie Gigli came out, dear god, no one stood up for that abomination.