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Ok so Lex and Doom have unlimited prep and their up against everybody on marvel earht....
Can these two doggs win???

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Lex and Doom, very easily (unlimited prep ftw).

yes they win against earth with unlimited prep. i can also see them trying to backstab each other. dr doom would take out luthor in the end.

i dont think doom is smarter then luthor like everyone thinks he is. Luthor did make his battlesuit didnt he, then he did what he did to superboy and made that army of superman beings. Though doom has done some pretty impressive stuff to like made a machine that could endow someone with a small bit of power cosmic he's also one of the best magicians so they say, then he did take over the other earth using the high evolutionary's own power source.

Originally posted by Mider999
i dont think doom is smarter then luthor like everyone thinks he is. Luthor did make his battlesuit didnt he, then he did what he did to superboy and made that army of superman beings. Though doom has done some pretty impressive stuff to like made a machine that could endow someone with a small bit of power cosmic he's also one of the best magicians so they say, then he did take over the other earth using the high evolutionary's own power source. doom stole the beyonders power. he is just better than luthor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
doom stole the beyonders power. he is just better than luthor.


yeah, Doom had to steal it. Luthor would have straight up whipped Beyonder's ass for all that power.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
yeah, Doom had to steal it. Luthor would have straight up whipped Beyonder's ass for all that power. come on even u cant compare luthor to victor von doom. doom would own him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
come on even u cant compare luthor to victor von doom. doom would own him.

well...i think they could trade wins off each other...Doom wouldn't pwn him by any means.

I could say this

Luthor is a JLA villain

Doom is a FF villain

JLA>>>FF

With unlimited prep Luthor and Doom are more than capable of taking over.

As for vs each other...they're pretty even. Especially with Luthor going back to his precrisis "mad" scientist roots instead of just being an "evil" businessman.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
With unlimited prep Luthor and Doom are more than capable of taking over.

As for vs each other...they're pretty even. Especially with Luthor going back to his precrisis "mad" scientist roots instead of just being an "evil" businessman. they arent even in the slightest. dr doom is superior to him. in a one on one confrontation luthor would get destroyed.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
well...i think they could trade wins off each other...Doom wouldn't pwn him by any means.

I could say this

Luthor is a JLA villain

Doom is a FF villain

JLA>>>FF dr doom feats>luthor feats!

Victor Von Doom is arguably the best villian in comics.Originally posted by charlemagne9746
well...i think they could trade wins off each other...Doom wouldn't pwn him by any means.

I could say this

Luthor is a JLA villain

Doom is a FF villain

JLA>>>FF
Only because there are just four of them.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Victor Von Doom is arguably the best villian in comics.
Only because there are just four of them. well i wouldnt say hes better than thanos. but doom is a top notch villain. while he isnt the best he is better than luthor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
well i wouldnt say hes better than thanos. but doom is a top notch villain. while he isnt the best he is better than luthor.

Thanos is tops in my book as well. But, Doom is a very close second because of his lack of innate power.

He does the most with the least.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Thanos is tops in my book as well. But, Doom is a very close second because of his lack of innate power.

He does the most with the least. i see it like this just off the top of my head, 1thanos
2 dr doom
3 darkseid
4 lex luthor

im sure i left out some major ones but right now off the top of my head. actually the more i think about it for a second darkseid ha s whole giant sized planet of resources. he should accomplish a lot more with all the resources he has. he might fall a number or two.

Originally posted by quanchi112
they arent even in the slightest. dr doom is superior to him. in a one on one confrontation luthor would get destroyed.

Sure...if Luthor isn't carrying any devices on him. Unfortunately, Luthor is just as plot induced as Doom and Batman.

He's also just as good with prep as Doom is.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Only because there are just four of them. And that single members of the JLA can take on and take out the four of them concurrently.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And that single members of the JLA can take on and take out the four of them concurrently.
Geez, it was just sarcasm. Behead me, why don't you.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Sure...if Luthor isn't carrying any devices on him. Unfortunately, Luthor is just as plot induced as Doom and Batman.

He's also just as good with prep as Doom is. Hi Avalonofthewind.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Geez, it was just sarcasm. Behead me, why don't you. giljotiini

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Sure...if Luthor isn't carrying any devices on him. Unfortunately, Luthor is just as plot induced as Doom and Batman.

He's also just as good with prep as Doom is. no way. dr doom is just better than luthor. there is only one victor von doom.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hi Avalonofthewind.

Hola amigo. Long time no see.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no way. dr doom is just better than luthor. there is only one victor von doom.

Actually, there are more than 1 Luthor and Doom. The multiverse thing.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
giljotiini ouch

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Actually, there are more than 1 Luthor and Doom. The multiverse thing. Good point. You pwned him.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Actually, there are more than 1 Luthor and Doom. The multiverse thing. ah. it would take a few luthors to stop one victor von doom.

Originally posted by quanchi112
ah. it would take a few luthors to stop one victor von doom.

..from getting his ass beat by the fantastic four.

Everyone's probably seen this by now... but it's the awesomest prep ever...

http://www.superdickery.com/images/science/luthorstimedevice0sq.jpg

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Good point. You pwned him.

Gracias.

All jokes aside...these 2 guys are my fave human villains. If they were swapped I'm pretty sure both would be just as effective in whatever world they were in.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Gracias.

All jokes aside...these 2 guys are my fave human villains. If they were swapped I'm pretty sure both would be just as effective in whatever world they were in. Pfft.
Doom has stolen powers of Surfer, a Watcher, Galactus, PR Beyonder, etc.

Lex does do some amazing sh*t, though.

The orangejuicecantimewarpraythingy trick by PC Lex pwns all other ingenuity feats.

Originally posted by Tyrant
Pfft.
Doom has stolen powers of Surfer, a Watcher, Galactus, PR Beyonder, etc.

And still lost.

You make it seem like this is an average showing for doom.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And still lost.

You make it seem like this is an average showing for doom. Losing has to do with what, exactly? It would be the same as the people he stole powers from losing, I'm afraid...

Never saw Lex get that kind of power, or do that sort of crazy shit.

He lost with Surfer's powers because he hit the Galactus barrier.
He lost with Watcher's, because BB screamed, with optimized voice.
He never lost with Galactus's powers, unless you count him losing, and then beating Beyonder...
He lost with Beyonder's, because the soul of Beyonder tricked him.

It is an average showing... when he wants it to be though.
When Doom wants to steal someone's powers, they're his.

Originally posted by Tyrant
Losing has to do with what, exactly? It would be the same as the people he stole powers from losing, I'm afraid...

Never saw Lex get that kind of power, or do that sort of crazy shit.

He lost with Surfer's powers
He lost with Watcher's
He never lost with Galactus's powers, unless you count him losing, and then beating Beyonder...
He lost with Beyonder's, because the soul of Beyonder tricked him..

Edited.

So what you are saying is that out of thousands of appearances...those 4 appearances make that Dooms average? Get that sh*t out of here.

Or better yet, Doom is going to go and steal Galactus power to fight a battle with Luthor?

By your logic, that means that Joker can beat Doom because he acquired Mxy's power.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Edited.

So what you are saying is that out of thousands of appearances...those 4 appearances make that Dooms average? Get that sh*t out of here.

Or better yet, Doom is going to go and steal Galactus power to fight a battle with Luthor?

By your logic, that means that Joker can beat Doom because he acquired Mxy's power.
Joker Had Mxy's powers!? Sweet!

He should have kept them. @#&%!!

I like Joker.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Joker Had Mxy's powers!? Sweet!

He should have kept them. @#&%!!

I like Joker.

Joker pwns all!

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Joker pwns all!
YESSSSS!!jester

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Edited.

So what you are saying is that out of thousands of appearances...those 4 appearances make that Dooms average? Get that sh*t out of here.

Or better yet, Doom is going to go and steal Galactus power to fight a battle with Luthor?

By your logic, that means that Joker can beat Doom because he acquired Mxy's power. No.
I said, when Doom wants power, he gets power...

No, if Doom were fighting Luthor, he could easily one shot him... alone.
Unless Sex had his suit.

By my logic? Read what I wrote.
Anyway, even if we follow this, Doom has achieved stealing massive power 4 times, or more. Joker achieved it once.

Originally posted by Tyrant
No.
I said, when Doom wants power, he gets power...

I'm sure every time he fights Reed...he presses a button on his suit and automatically gets beyonders power.



Originally posted by Tyrant
, if Doom were fighting Luthor, he could easily one shot him... alone.
Unless Sex had his suit.

Ever since before the crisis...Lex has been wearing his suit or having plot devices on him on a consistent basis..including kryptonian weaponry, forcefields, and teleporters.


Originally posted by Tyrant
my logic? Read what I wrote.
Anyway, even if we follow this, Doom has achieved stealing massive power 4 times, or more. Joker achieved it once.

Fortunately, we aren't going to have a bunch of top tier Marvel cosmics for powerups in this battle now, are we?

Hah! He wrote SEX instead of LEX! He's a comical genius!

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I'm sure every time he fights Reed...he presses a button on his suit and automatically gets beyonders power. I'm saying when he wants power.
Of course he has to prep for it.



Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Ever since before the crisis...Lex has been wearing his suit or having plot devices on him on a current basis..including kryptonian weaponry, forcefields, and teleporters. Doom has that sort of stuff... all the time.

Anyway, I don't know how good anything else would be, besides his suit (and him giving himself super powers in 52), but I know how powerful Doom is.


Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Fortunately, we aren't going to have a bunch of top tier Marvel cosmics for powerups in this battle now, are we? No.
But the way Doom has done so, is believable that he could do it to a lot of people from both DC and Marvel.

So, if he swapped, he'd fit right in. As long as he has prep.

Wait... what is this thread? I haven't even read anything in it, besides your posts...

Oh, ya, I think they can do it...
As long as they have prep, Doom could go back in time, to when he stole Galactus's powers...
Cheap tactics ftw.

Marvel Earth pretty much sucks ass now.

EDIT: Unlimited prep? Ha!

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hah! He wrote SEX instead of LEX! He's a comical genius! I aim to squeeze.

Originally posted by Tyrant
I'm saying when he wants power.
Of course he has to prep for it.

Same with Luthor.



Originally posted by Tyrant
Doom has that sort of stuff... all the time.

Anyway, I don't know how good anything else would be, besides his suit (and him giving himself super powers in 52), but I know how powerful Doom is.

As Luthor is being written back to his precrisis style, he's back to being pretty badass instead of just being a businessman with a grudge. He's a good match for Victor in battle and as an ally.

Originally posted by Tyrant
No.
But the way Doom has done so, is believable that he could do it to a lot of people from both DC and Marvel.

So, if he swapped, he'd fit right in. As long as he has prep.

Wait... what is this thread? I haven't even read anything in it, besides your posts...

Oh, ya, I think they can do it...
As long as they have prep, Doom could go back in time, to when he stole Galactus's powers...
Cheap tactics ftw.

Orange juice flashlight pwns Doom.

These 2 are pretty even. Doom on DC Earth would be annoying...just as Lex on Marvel Earth would be annoying.

Personally I'm happy seeing Lex being more mad scientist and less Kingpin.

Originally posted by Tyrant
I'm saying when he wants power.
Of course he has to prep for it.

Same with Luthor. 52 is a good example, as are his recent arcs, and things like Rock of Ages where he had the worlogog.

Like Doom, Luthor had great power..and lost too.

Originally posted by Tyrant
Doom has that sort of stuff... all the time.

Anyway, I don't know how good anything else would be, besides his suit (and him giving himself super powers in 52), but I know how powerful Doom is.

As Luthor is being written back to his precrisis style, he's back to being pretty badass instead of just being a businessman with a grudge. He's a good match for Victor in battle and as an ally.

Originally posted by Tyrant
No.
But the way Doom has done so, is believable that he could do it to a lot of people from both DC and Marvel.

So, if he swapped, he'd fit right in. As long as he has prep.

Wait... what is this thread? I haven't even read anything in it, besides your posts...

Oh, ya, I think they can do it...
As long as they have prep, Doom could go back in time, to when he stole Galactus's powers...
Cheap tactics ftw.

Orange juice flashlight pwns Doom.

These 2 are pretty even. Doom on DC Earth would be annoying...just as Lex on Marvel Earth would be annoying.

Personally I'm happy seeing Lex being more mad scientist and less Kingpin.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Same with Luthor. 52 is a good example, as are his recent arcs, and things like Rock of Ages where he had the worlogog.

Like Doom, Luthor had great power..and lost too.



As Luthor is being written back to his precrisis style, he's back to being pretty badass instead of just being a businessman with a grudge. He's a good match for Victor in battle and as an ally.



Orange juice flashlight pwns Doom.

These 2 are pretty even. Doom on DC Earth would be annoying...just as Lex on Marvel Earth would be annoying.

Personally I'm happy seeing Lex being more mad scientist and less Kingpin. the bad guys always lose thier great power. doom on average would stomp luthor in battle. doom in my opinion has him beat in all respects.

i'm pretty sure lex and dr.doom will win on taking over marvel earth..
two greatest supervillains who gave dc and marvel heroes a very taught time defending earth.. some of their plots were even successful and they pretty have a clean win score.. well most of it...

about dr.doom vs lex luthor... read this
http://www.electricferret.com/fights/badguys.htm

its all been done and a lot of website, even youtube have discuss who is the clear winner when this two satans bash each other's head..