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Earth Mover- http://www.marveldatabase.com/Maximilian_Stone_%28Earth-616%29

Iron Cross- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Iron_Cross_%28Counter-Earth%29

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Ultimo- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ultimoim.htm

I'm not really familiar with any of the guys here, except Ultimo. As such, I can't comment directly.

Do you think that these three are Herald level? Do you think that they are as powerful/effective as Super Skrull and Ronan together? That's the kind of criteria that will need to be filled in order to take down Ravenous and his Opposing Force.

I not sure trying to make a good vs match.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
I'm not really familiar with any of the guys here, except Ultimo. As such, I can't comment directly.

Do you think that these three are Herald level? Do you think that they are as powerful/effective as Super Skrull and Ronan together? That's the kind of criteria that will need to be filled in order to take down Ravenous and his Opposing Force.

Super Skrull and Ronan's abilities weren't displayed to their full extent during that battle, I don't think their combined forces is the set minimum required to take down Ravenous.

Ravenous should be able to take out this team though.

Originally posted by llagrok
Super Skrull and Ronan's abilities weren't displayed to their full extent during that battle, I don't think their combined forces is the set minimum required to take down Ravenous.

Ravenous should be able to take out this team though. No, there's no set minimum, but right now, only the Silver Surfer and Ronan/Super Skrull have actually been able to stop the guy. Peter Quill didn't seem to think Nova, Drax, Gamora, or Ronan could match Ravenous. He went on to say that the Heralds were the only ones capable of doing so. So just for the sake of comparison then, Ravenous himself must be mid-high Herald level. He did survive a black hole, after all, as well as a planetary explosion.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
No, there's no set minimum, but right now, only the Silver Surfer and Ronan/Super Skrull have actually been able to stop the guy. Peter Quill didn't seem to think Nova, Drax, Gamora, or Ronan could match Ravenous. He went on to say that the Heralds were the only ones capable of doing so. So just for the sake of comparison then, Ravenous himself must be mid-high Herald level. He did survive a black hole, after all, as well as a planetary explosion.

1. Ravenous was teleported away when the planet blew up.
2. Nova doesn't have any particular mid-high herald feats as of yet. Annihilus was very weakened during their confrontation, Nova even mentioned it.
3. Gamora or Drax can't match up to Ravenous. That's no secret. Unfortunately lack of courage/belief in one self doesn't necessarily mean that they're actually weaker than him. Note that they were also facing Terrax, Delinquent and several other centurions at the time.

Originally posted by llagrok
1. Ravenous was teleported away when the planet blew up.
2. Nova doesn't have any particular mid-high herald feats as of yet. Annihilus was very weakened during their confrontation, Nova even mentioned it.
3. Gamora or Drax can't match up to Ravenous. That's no secret. Unfortunately lack of courage/belief in one self doesn't necessarily mean that they're actually weaker than him. Note that they were also facing Terrax, Delinquent and several other centurions at the time. Ravenous has displayed the ability to stalemate Heralds and Peter Quill outright stated that no one on the planet (including Ronan) could match Ravenous. Quill has an implant that makes this analysis possible, so I don't think it is simple hyperbole or underestimation of the United Front.

Ravenous did battle with the upgraded Silver Surfer and survived both the destruction of his Annihilation fleet and the Seekers as well as being on the planet Surfer obliterated. From these facts, where would you place Ravenous's power?

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Ravenous has displayed the ability to stalemate Heralds and Peter Quill outright stated that no one on the planet (including Ronan) could match Ravenous. Quill has an implant that makes this analysis possible, so I don't think it is simple hyperbole or underestimation of the United Front.

Ravenous did battle with the upgraded Silver Surfer and survived both the destruction of his Annihilation fleet and the Seekers as well as being on the planet Surfer obliterated. From these facts, where would you place Ravenous's power?

I'd place it at mid herald.

Originally posted by llagrok
I'd place it at mid herald. So this is going to go off topic, but if you think Ravenous is mid-Herald and I think Ravenous is at least mid-Herald, then I'm wondering, where do we disagree?

Do you think that Ronan and Super-Skrull together would be a match for a high-end Herald? Do you think that Ronan himself is mid-high Herald level? I'm not baiting you, I just want to know where you're coming from.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
So this is going to go off topic, but if you think Ravenous is mid-Herald and I think Ravenous is at least mid-Herald, then I'm wondering, where do we disagree?

Do you think that Ronan and Super-Skrull together would be a match for a high-end Herald? Do you think that Ronan himself is mid-high Herald level? I'm not baiting you, I just want to know where you're coming from.

I actually think that Ronan can take a couple of wins from a mid herald, and together with SS a big majority. They were a bad match for Ravenous though, I recon they wouldn't be capable of taking out Red Shift, who uses his speed and flight a lot more.

Ravenous is a brawler, which Ronan are good against.

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