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Destroyer is animated by Hela, who wants Juggernaut in Hell.......

Originally posted by Faceman
Destroyer is animated by Hela, who wants Juggernaut in Hell.......

destroyer

Originally posted by Faceman
Destroyer is animated by Hela, who wants Juggernaut in Hell.......
Juggernaut

Juggernaut

destroyer

Destroyer

8th day

Jugg easily knocks his head off.

Originally posted by h1a8
Jugg easily knocks his head off.

Wasn't Juggs punching through dimensions (whatever that means)? I see no reason to see why his power doesn't exceed king Thor's.

Originally posted by h1a8
Wasn't Juggs punching through dimensions (whatever that means)? I see no reason to see why his power doesn't exceed king Thor's. That's Trion Juggs.

Plus, a lot of people were more powerful than King Thor... but when Thor picked up that hammer, something else happened. It must have been him being adept in the Force, and finally having the hammer again. It's really not comparable.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
That's Trion Juggs.

Plus, a lot of people were more powerful than King Thor... but when Thor picked up that hammer, something else happened. It must have been him being adept in the Force, and finally having the hammer again. It's really not comparable.

I'm not saying who wins here. But if the upper strength limit of 8th day Juggs is unknown then how can one truly say that he isn't strong enough to knock Destroyer's head off. How strong do you have to be? Thus we must go on opinions right?

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not saying who wins here. Originally posted by h1a8
Jugg easily knocks his head off.

The headless fighting Destroyer... always dangerous.

Originally posted by h1a8
But if the upper strength limit of 8th day Juggs is unknown then how can one truly say that he isn't strong enough to knock Destroyer's head off. How strong do you have to be? Thus we must go on opinions right? Surely we can't use feats.

Opinions are the only way to go I guess.

hela is is a top 5 asgardian god, probably top 3.
she would have complete control over the destroyer and win 7/10 against trion juggernaut.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hela is is a top 5 asgardian god, probably top 3.
she would have complete control over the destroyer and win 7/10 against trion juggernaut.

Trion? doubt it.

Either Destroyer BFR Juggs or Juggs win or this is a stalemate.
But never does Destroyer damage Juggs.
So which one?

Destroyer

The ultimate weapon of the Destroyer opened a hole in the Celestial dome. I don't see Cain withstanding that

I'm guessing the Asgardian destroyer will shoot through Juggernaut's enchantment.

The Destroyer was built to combat the Celestials

Celestials>Asgardians>Cytorrak

Juggs is overrated, take away that "punching dimension" feat and he's not much, Destroyer ftw.

Originally posted by guy222
The Destroyer was built to combat the Celestials

Celestials>Asgardians>Cytorrak

A challenge that the Destroyer, powered by the souls of all Asgardian's IIRC, failed at horribly!

Juggernaut wasn't damaged in the least by Thor's God Blast which could crack a Celestial's brain casing. While the damage was insignificant to the Celestial the fact is is that Thor did more damage to a Celestial than he did to Juggernaut.

Originally posted by lft4ded
A challenge that the Destroyer, powered by the souls of all Asgardian's IIRC, failed at horribly!

Juggernaut wasn't damaged in the least by Thor's God Blast which could crack a Celestial's brain casing. While the damage was insignificant to the Celestial the fact is is that Thor did more damage to a Celestial than he did to Juggernaut.

Physically hurting a celestial doesn't do much.

Mjolnir was able to contain/breach Cyttorak's enchantment and the Destroyer cut straight through Mjolnir.

I noted that the damage was insignificant.

The God Blast has a better track record than the Destroyer when it comes to Celestials though. And that was an uber-powered Destroyer (sans Thor) that actually fought the Celestials.

Even when D'Sparye was able to use Cytorrak's energies against Juggernaut and flay him to the bones Cytorrak's enchantment wouldn't let him fall.

Mjolnir was able to create a vortex that blocked most of the enchantment from reaching Cain. I seriously doubt the Destroyer can do that. Mjolnir has never been able to physically breach the enchantments.

Even worse apparently even Thor considered such a tactic worthless against 8th Day considering how much more power he was drawing from Cytorrak. In that fight Eight Day Juggernaut (that literally walked all over Thor and his precious hammer) is just overkill IMHO in a fight where Juggernaut that fought WWH would suffice.

Thor had already fought the Enchanters and Juggernaut jumped him.

D'spayre wasn't able to pierce Juggernaut's shield, I believe the Destroyer could. Simple as that. When animated by someone as powerful as Hela, the Destroyer would be incredibly powerful.

Juggy.

Originally posted by guy222
The Destroyer was built to combat the Celestials

Celestials>Asgardians>Cytorrak

Juggs can't be scratch by any physical force.
And if by sufficient magic he is harmed he heals instanteously.

Cytorrak>>>Celestials>>>Asgardians
for Cytorrak is on Eternity's level or above.

Originally posted by h1a8
Juggs can't be scratch by any physical force.
And if by sufficient magic he is harmed he heals instanteously.

Cytorrak>>>Celestials>>>Asgardians
for Cytorrak is on Eternity's level or above. Unless you think that Juggernaut is equivalent to Cytorrak (and thusly superior to Celestials), that post is useless.

Originally posted by h1a8

Cytorrak>>>Celestials>>>Asgardians

for Cytorrak is on Eternity's level or above.
No way.

Cytorrak is sealed in his own realm, and his power derives from his Ruby,
knock it off of him, and he's powerless,
meh, Juggs himself owned Cytorrak in his own realm, lol, and took the Ruby,
but then Juggs himself began losing his powers,
because the Ruby must be attached to Cytorrak in order for his power to function.

A catch 22.

i have been posting this frequently due to this current trend of downplaying the dread destroyer.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9049/thor1wn0.th.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8251/thor2ir5.th.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7185/thor3ih6.th.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/829/thor4wf0.th.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6882/thor5bz2.th.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/720/thor6hg4.th.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/3879/thor7my4.th.jpg

thor was handily owned by a hela's hell hound named garm. if it was hela herself, it would mean the end of thor.

and it's celestials > asgardians +/- cyttorak.

Originally posted by h1a8
Juggs can't be scratch by any physical force.
And if by sufficient magic he is harmed he heals instanteously.

Cytorrak>>>Celestials>>>Asgardians
for Cytorrak is on Eternity's level or above. knock it off.
Celestials>Cytrorrak.
Read what mr master posted.

8th Day smacked up Thor too:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day1.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day2.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day3.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day4.jpg

So...

Originally posted by Galan007
8th Day smacked up Thor too:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day1.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day2.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day3.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day4.jpg

So...

And Thor got up like two seconds later

Wasn't even knocked unconscious.

Originally posted by Galan007
8th Day smacked up Thor too:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day1.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day2.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day3.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day4.jpg

So... granted, but the thing that separates the two is the fact that a powerful asgardian can possess the destroyer from far away, loki, odin, and hela can do it remotely and all three of them can totally control it's actions.

and the biggest weakness of the destroyer is the host body that possesses it right? but as my scan showed garm was in hel but hela managed to transport the destroyer to midgard to battle thor, thus eliminating the weakness of the destroyer.

juggy lacks the might to knock the head off of the destroyer so...what the hell is he supposed to beat him with?

last point. when thor possessed the destroyer, he could use his power's. hela has beaten thor before as her strength is close to thor's and if thor can use his powers in the destroyer armour, hela surely can too. she is a death goddess and has the power to age any being to the end of their lives and such, and other very powerful magic spells.

juggernaut is susceptible to extreme magical force and hela has that in spades. coupled with the destroyer's ultimate disintegration beam, i give the destroyer + hela the win.

Originally posted by llagrok
And Thor got up like two seconds later

Wasn't even knocked unconscious. I was looking at it only taking Juggs a few hits to pwn Thor, more than anything.

but thor has "beaten" juggy before, though it was by cutting him off from his power then proceeding to cave his shit in.....then bfr, why the hell didn't he replicate that?

Originally posted by h1a8
Cytorrak>>>Celestials>>>Asgardians
for Cytorrak is on Eternity's level or above.

Where do you get the part from the equal eternity part?

I just realized from the scan that Odin had Mjolnir created and the Destroyer armor.

The Destroyer failed, even when empowered by all the Asgardians, against the Celestials. I don't know if Hela participated in the Destroyer when it went against the Celestials however.

That it would be able to destroy the lesser artifact, Mjolnir, doesn't seem like that great of a feat really.

well this isn't about the celestials is it...

Originally posted by lft4ded
That it would be able to destroy the lesser artifact, Mjolnir, doesn't seem like that great of a feat really.

Meh, Mjolnir has better feats than the gem of cyttorak.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Where do you get the part from the equal eternity part?

Cyttorak is absolute God in his own universe/dimension right?

Originally posted by h1a8

Cyttorak is absolute God in his own universe/dimension right?

Juggernaut owing Cyttorak,
by simply rushing him and ripping the Ruby from his forehead:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5323/mbodisuni2na0.th.jpg



Strange tries to stop Juggs who's stomping Cyttorak to death:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2391/mbodisuni3cc2.th.jpg



So Strange starts getting owned by Juggs:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9462/mbodisuni4zs6.th.jpg

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6668/mbodisuni5gy0.th.jpg



Unfortunately if the Ruby is not on Cyttorak, it doesn't function,
so Juggs power supply is cut off,
and he gets the Ruby blasted out of his grip by Nova:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4230/mbodisuni7ie1.th.jpg



Ruby goes back to K.O.'d Cyttorak's forehead:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3528/mbodisuni8tm6.th.jpg



Cyttorak himself explains
that the source of the cosmos he embodies is linked to the Ruby:

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5078/mbodisuni9tj1.th.jpg

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Cyttorak is over-rated on our forum.

He may be able to make Juggs a tuff guy vs. Heroes,
but he's no Cosmic powerhouse.

Oh and that "cosmos" he embodies, is a pocket-realm btw.

Originally posted by h1a8
Cyttorak is absolute God in his own universe/dimension right?
arent most beings...supposedly.

Originally posted by Mr Master
So Strange starts getting owned by Juggs:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9462/mbodisuni4zs6.th.jpg The writers couldn't think of anything but 'tractor trailers' to put, when Juggs is talking about what his punches can do? lol

Originally posted by Galan007

The writers couldn't think of anything but 'tractor trailers' to put,
when Juggs is talking about what his punches can do? lol
I just noticed that,

When fighting an army battalion,The Juggernaut slammed his fists into the ground with such force it created an earthquake that ripped through the entire valley and brought a hill crumbling down on them. --Uncanny X-Men #33

took the Fantastic Four's Thing down for the count in seconds with just 3 successive blows. Thing would arise,only to fall back down unconscious. --Secret Wars II #7


sent Thor hurtling across the skies and then through a store wall with a casual backslap. --Thor #411

When hit so hard by Rogue of the X-Men that the shockwave from the punch shattered every window of the street,The Juggernaut simply stood there looking down on her with his arms crossed. Then with a mere backhand knocks her seemingly unconcious. --Uncanny X-Men #218

After the Hulk had absorbed more radiation making him more powerful than before, The Juggernaut matched him in a direct test of strength. The opposing forces of their grapple threatened to collapse the entire X-Mansion. --World War Hulk:X-Men #3

Collapsed an entire skyscraper(possibly a World Trade Center tower) with a ram of his shoulder. --Spider-Man #16

Engaging fellow exemplar Stonecuter in a toe-to-toe slugfest,the punches they traded to one another caused earthquakes and was said to be the greatest fury ever unleashed on Earth. --Juggernaut:Eighth Day

Facing the Stranger who'd grown to about 50 feet tall,The Juggernaut lept up and toppled him with one punch --X-Men Forever #6


Stripped to only a fraction of his strength,he still is strong enough to easily choke Rogue with one hand while fending off Colossus with the other. --Marvel Team-Up #150(it was stated in the Marvel Handbook that both Tom and Juggernaut actually had less than a half of The Juggernaut's power as they had assumed)

The Juggernaut nearly drowned the Hulk by forcing Hulk's head underwater. Hulk had to use silt from the riverbed in Juggernaut's eyes to make The Juggernaut release his grip on his neck. --Hulk #402

Despite having suffered a significant power loss,The Juggernaut's diminished might was still enough to lock up with Prime. The Juggernaut is next seen slamming Prime through a wall. --Exiles #4

Tore through a wall 50 times the tensile strength of battleship steel as though it were a "a thin layer of plywood". --Uncanny X-Men #12

Drained of power to the point of emaciation, a sickly Juggernaut was still strong enough to rip off and wield the entire corners of buildings as giant weapons. --Uncanny X-Men #361

The Juggernaut has withstood even Thor's godforce blast which caused Galactus to flee for his life on one occasion and shattered the prime Celestial's protective dome on another. The Juggernaut took a steady stream of it without harm. --Thor #412

Took a direct blast from the new-look Cyclops that was described by him as being able to "rip a small planet in half" with a smile as The Juggernaut's only reaction. --Cyclops #1

The Juggernaut proved totally impervious to the adamantium claws of Wolverine. --Uncanny X-Men #102

The Juggernaut was immune to even the bludgeoning power of the Hulk. And after taking the Hulk's blows repeatedly asserts that the Hulk could never stop him. --Hulk #172


When a consciousness from another dimension triggered a homing instinct in his head, the Juggernaut in a possessed-like state tapped more and more of his power until he began punching through time and space to get to it. He would later grow to the size of a large building. --X-Men #88


When Storm gave the Juggernaut the best bolt she could muster at the time, the Juggernaut took it, then rechannelled the bolt back at her through his hand. --Uncanny X-Men #102


When persuing Beast across water the Juggernaut's magic prevented him from sinking. --Amazing Adventures #16


When completely sunk in quicksand against the Hulk, the Juggernaut somehow rose from the quicksand and pummelled the surprised Hulk senseless. --Incredible Hulk #402

Twice when lifted from the ground and held in midair by Jean Grey,The Juggernaut proves unstoppable by continuing to advance toward her irregardless. Despite having no physical footholds or leverage. --Uncanny X-Men #12

Are those feats enough?Juggernaut is overrated?If anything he is underated in this forum.He beat Thor countless times like a child but in every Juggernaut vs Thor thread most people have him losing.Learn about a character before you keep saying he or she will lose.

When did Juggernaut beat Thor like a child?

Most of the feats you listed are shit anyway. Class 100 strength and immunity to physical force, EVERYBODY on the forum grants him those.

Destroyer