Respect Dark Schnieder

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Akuki
Dark Schneider of Bastard!!

Dark Schneider is the most powerful sorcerer in the world, which he almost completely took over before being imprisoned in the body of a little boy by Grand (or Great) Priest Geo. Rushe is soft spoken and had a crush on Yoko, which carried over to Dark Schneider. Rushe and Dark Schneider share the same soul, which means they love what each other loves, but that is where it ends: Dark Schneider can be incredibly evil, heartless and lecherous, whereas Rushe is faithful, quiet and friendly. Dark Schneider is immortal (though whether this is conferred upon Rushe is unclear) -- he can resurrect himself through will-power alone. In the English version, he is also called the Mage of Fire, and, in the Japanese, The Exploder Wizard. Whenever Rushe is kissed by Yoko, Dark Schneider is released, and when Dark Schneider is kissed, Rushe is released, and so on, though Dark Schneider can break the seal himself when extremely angry, and he can control Lushe's body at certain times of night (re-gaining his powers for a while in the process).

Techniques/Powers:
Damned:
A basic spell. He killed cannon fodder and destroyed a 20 ft steel door with it.

Anthem:
Magic missiles. Said to have PERFECT accuracy. Otherwise, not very strong.

Sodom:
A mid-level piercing spell. He used this after the failure of Anthem and Guns and Roses toward a Dogezaemon. Slayed the beast immediately.

Mace:
A dispel type magic. Able to ward off other magical seals and such.

Guns and Roses:
A mid to high level (depending on user) fire attack. Its fire can reach the melting point of rock.

Hellion:
A much hotter spell than Guns and Roses. Was used by Efreet.

Venom:
From the realm of shadow destructive enzymes are summoned to attack the opponent. They disrupt the cell growth and disintegrate the cells to dust. Inside the sphere of the spell all life forms are destroyed or killed by the heat.

Exodus:
This spell opens the gates to the magic kingdoms Abadon and Gehenna. With the rising flames the mage turns into a fireball. His temperature of 20,000 degree Celsius evaporates stone and dissolves all life into its molecules.

Megadeth:
A high-level lightning spell. Darshu destroys Gara's fortress with this move (while they all were in it. That's Gara, his men of 2,000, the Princess and Yoko). This was done while depleted of all energy.

Riot:
A mid to high-level attack. Great range that affects the nervous system on contact. Also works as a regular blast.

Interiperi:
This spell creates small, magical bombs (approx. 10 bombs) with the destructiveness of grenades.

Accused:
Capable of casting any form of dark/evil curse upon the victim. Most notorious for turning the victim into a frog upon breaking of the oath by the caster.

Raven:
Flight Magic.

Daf Ray-Burn:
A subspace warp that sucks all magical energy within the circumference of the ball.

Brag-Za-Hars:
Darshu second strongest attack. It was used on a Cyclops made directly from the God of Destruction Anthrax herself. The Clops was nigh indestructible and capable of regenerating from close to nothing. This spell was capable of killing it (while leaving a 10 mile long crater in the ground)

Helloween:
Darshu ultimate spell. It is a forbidden spell forgotten since the Ancient days. This spells destructive power is still unknown, but it easily speculated as vastly superior to the destructive power of Brag-Za-Hars.

Black Sabbath:
A forbidden spell that creates a nuclear explosion. At its peak the spell generates a heat of 12 million degree Celsius. All regenerative powers fail. A terrible High Class spell which isn't listed in the High Ancient. It could destroy the world and is therefore forbidden.

Gear:
Weapon - Fire Sword (Efreet soul)

-Holds the 7 pieces of the Judas Pain in him which is essentially reality itself. He can't be willed out of existence, sent to another dimension and imprisoned, or go back in time to kill him. It also eats at his soul, but he waves off most the effects except memory loss, meaning no psychic power in the universe can mind control or mind rape him.

-Has the highest level spells of every magic type but white.

-Even before obtaining the Judas Pain, or unlocking his half demon powers gained from his physical body, which is the reincarnation of Lucifer himself, DS: Broke out of Hell, melting the lake of Cocytus (a lake eternally frozen, one could say it was of cosmic origins) with a basic level fire spell, and destroying one of Hell's continents on the way out.

-A battle DS had with a high level archangel was simply insane. The two entities were attacking physically (punches, kicks, etc) at many times the speed of light (each attack more than enough to split the Earth in half), while casting high level spells without invocations or motions (many spells more than powerful enough to destroy a Galaxy) at IIRC three times their physical attack speed (triple cast). DS's thinking is also many times the speed of light, as each of his shields have alterable properties, such as being able to nullify one element or type of attack at DS's whim IIRC. Both opponents were doing this to counter one another's spells as much as possible.

(My edit: This may follow the "power by association" rule. It's likely that the highest a spell is capable of destroying THUS FAR is a solar system. Truthfully, I don't know)

-Another note on the shield is that they can all take an atomic level blast constantly focused on one point of the shield for over an hour before breaking. They can also be broken by gathering the raw mystic powers of the universe (the basis of magic. it's a force which permeates everything, and could be thought of as the forces of creation/destruction) into physical attacks.

-DS (and most of the high level archangels and demons) can gather the raw mystic power in the universe into physical attacks, making them more than just physical, and into a pure destructive force which can't be nullified by any barrier (including DS's own).

-DS also sealed a powerful Demon who held a piece if the Judas Pain in a dimension that was worse than Hell. It was nigh inescapable and is a constant drain on the willpower and energy of its inhabitants, and DS simply kept the demon in there for eons in order to weaken him enough to take the Judas Pain away from him.

-DS annihilated a powerful archangel while missing everything from his shoulders down, besides his left arm.

Here's some stat on his powers that were nicely corrected by another person

Has 200+ instantly regenerating shields that can each more than hold out against an atomic blast each and even if the attack is greater, one shield will absorb the entire shock no matter how powerful.

^ This is called Dispell Bound. Amount of shields wasn?t stated in the manga but depending on the power of the devil/angel the shields are pretty much uncountable and provide all kinds of protection, such as agains light attacks, fire attacks, against anti-magic spells, assimilation spells and so on. As for the strength ? the can indeed hold up against an atomic blast but not much more.

Akuki
-Can instantly regenerate as long as his eternal atom is attacked so the only way to beat him would be to destroy all 200 some odd shields and attack him with enough staying power to blast every atom into nothingness, however....

^ except for the number of shields,which is uncertain, TRUE. To explain how it works: In case two beings with Dispell Bound ability collide, they have to destroy their eternal atoms, the core of their soul that keeps their existence in reality, to completely wipe out each other. Otherwise they can regenerate as often they wish. However, if a devils or angels eternal atoms are damaged while they are on earth they still can regenerate, while when a devil dies in Hell he stays dead and an Angel stays dead when his eternal atoms are destroyed in Heaven. To reach the eternal atoms they have to destroy the Spell Bound. This is done by re-writing the magical code of every shield the Spell Bound casts. Depending on the power, DS and Uriel may have Billions of shields and every single one has to be re-written in order to overcome it and to get closer to the eternal atoms. This is happening with hundrets of times the speed of light because while re-writing the shields of the opponent, the attacker is repairing his own shields. So, this battle is decided by uber-dimensional speeds and powers to overcome the repair-speed of the opponent and strike the eternal atoms.

-Can move at speeds much faster than light

^ as explained by me above. Fact TRUE. But his limits are probably up to 500-1000 times the speed of light but no exaggerated shit like Trillions or more. That was never stated anywhere so far. Rafael only explained that Uriel and DS where colliding several hundred times the speed of light.

(My edit: There was alittle discrepency to how fast Darshu moves on another forum I frequent. A German translation of this conversation stated speed sound as their movement. We've later got confirmation that it never stated that in the original, but also didn't mention light in a sense of speed. Thus far, the conclusion is that they move at an UNMEASURABLE SPEED that cannot even be seen by a high-class archangel. Also note that the speeds are still blinding as he's overriding Uriel's shields that regenerate at Uriel's speed WHILE repairing his own)

-Can will himself back from nothingness as he is the Dark Adam and ONLY another Adam can kill him permanently

^ PARTIALLY TRUE. DS can theoretically be killed by anyone who manages to overcome the repair-speed of his Dispell Bound. But so far no one who can do that exists. Even Satan can?t do it. And since Satan couldn?t beat God and vice versa, I doubt God could do it either. Right now, that is, for both of them. Satan is a clever guy, he probably knows how to find ways to kill DS but right now it is not possible. Only a being with the counterpart abilities to DS, the Adam of Darkness, can kill DS permanently. And that is the Adam of Light. Who ever that will be. But yes, even if he is turned into nothingness, as long as only one of his eternal atoms exist, DS can will himself back from ?nothingness?.

More...

-Has an innumerable amount of shields (labeled at 200+ on a weaker opponent a while back in the series) surrounding his body, all of which can take an atomic blast each, and all of which will absorb the full damage of an attack before breaking.

-Stronger than an archangel who could destroy stars and star systems by casually flying past them.


Dark Schnieder Busting a planet
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http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Bastard/planetshredded.jpg

Explanation of Dispel Bound
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/8163/0001eng3km.jpg - Dispell Bound (Note: german translation)

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/8199/00023pr.jpg - Dispell Bound #2

Endless Mike
I was planning to make this thread once I had more scans. Phenomenol is probably going to troll it now.

Akuki
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I was planning to make this thread once I had more scans. Phenomenol is probably going to troll it now.
yeah I'm looking to try and find more scans of it, it's really freaking impossible to find anything on the later volumes. However I did post a request in the manga forum, so I'm hoping someone in there has some pics.

Endless Mike
I know where to get the entire manga online, but raw. There are several groups scanlating it currently.

Akuki
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I know where to get the entire manga online, but raw. There are several groups scanlating it currently.
Could you give me a link? I already get the scanlations from Deadsea scans.

Phenomenol
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Bastard/planets1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Bastard/planetshredded.jpg

BTW I got these scans translated and there is NOTHIN being said about the planet being destroyed! It was an ATTACK!!!! nothing more.

Oh, here is a scan for DS speed being at the speed of sound!

http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0003qt3.jpg

DigiMark007
This smells like manga, which generally isn't allowed on this forum because it opens the door for all sorts of things. I respect the changes in the vs. forum, but my intent is to keep this forum limited to mainstream comic companies, especially since we have an anime/manga forum....barring the few characters that had very old threads and got "grandfathered" in under this rule (like Ryu, for example).

I'm not closing it right away because it isn't something I'm upset about, and you can chime in if you want. If you'd like me to move it to the anime/manga forum instead of closing it, I'd be happy to do so.

Akuki
Originally posted by DigiMark007
This smells like manga, which generally isn't allowed on this forum because it opens the door for all sorts of things. I respect the changes in the vs. forum, but my intent is to keep this forum limited to mainstream comic companies, especially since we have an anime/manga forum....barring the few characters that had very old threads and got "grandfathered" in under this rule (like Ryu, for example).

I'm not closing it right away because it isn't something I'm upset about, and you can chime in if you want. If you'd like me to move it to the anime/manga forum instead of closing it, I'd be happy to do so.
Sorry about that, I was talking with illadelph12 is oe of the versus threads, and I guess I got the impression that it was ok to make respect threads for them with the new rule change. Oops embarrasment

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Akuki
Sorry about that, I was talking with illadelph12 is oe of the versus threads, and I guess I got the impression that it was ok to make respect threads for them with the new rule change. Oops embarrasment

ill only has the vs. forum. This forum's still my territory, and while I don't mind the changes ill's making over there, I don't plan on instituting them here as well.

I'll move the thread to the manga/anime section. Hopefully it stays open and gets some hits.

Soljer PMd me about doing 1 thread for all of DBZ to show capabilities and such so that people will have more knowledge for vs. battles. I might allow that, but it's a small concession for a large # of characters and I can't let individual characters through.

Akuki
Ok here are some sweet new scans.
Dark Schnieder fighting using a giant summoned beast thingy.Just to give a sense of size, he's a speck in that thing's eye. Blast exchange with an opponent
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d522-523.jpg
More size of blast
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d524.jpg
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Same blasting shattering reality
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d530.jpg
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Dark Schnieder and Opponent emerging nearly unscathed in other reality
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d548.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d549.jpg

TricksterPriest
Reality destruction?! scared Jesus, what level does that put him at, GALACTUS LEVEL!?

Which version of DS is that?

Phenomenol
show me the dialouge please where it says "shattering reality?".

Endless Mike
It was a smaller dimension, not complete universe sized. It's still a Skyfather - level feat though (his opponent, Fallen Uriel, had destroyed a galaxy earlier).

And stop trolling, Phenom.

WrathfulDwarf
No figthing....no need to stir the pot.

Phenomenol
Originally posted by Endless Mike
It was a smaller dimension, not complete universe sized. It's still a Skyfather - level feat though (his opponent, Fallen Uriel, had destroyed a galaxy earlier).

And stop trolling, Phenom.

Mike, where is the dialouge to support your claims Mike? After I had to get the scans translated where you said DS destroyed a planet (LOL) turned out to be false.

Uriel did NOT destroy a Galaxy Mike.

Akuki
Here's more of that battle
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Phenomenol
The Art is great, but that must be because of Computer Graphics.

I still don't see any planets being destroyed, they are fighting in a town.

leonheartmm
the ONLY sorcerer/es stronger than dasch in any non obscure anime is lina inverse. and shes not even half as cool as darch. shes more like goku than anything. ridisulous feats.

{za zard o kaizard sisk, re rea no fazard o sillk. sage of hades, use the 9 keys and open the gates of hell. HARROW-INGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!. shortly thereafter, every non cool anime character's multiverse is incinerated. the bastard rules your ASS}

Phenomenol
Originally posted by leonheartmm
the ONLY sorcerer/es stronger than dasch in any non obscure anime is lina inverse. and shes not even half as cool as darch. shes more like goku than anything. ridisulous feats.

{za zard o kaizard sisk, re rea no fazard o sillk. sage of hades, use the 9 keys and open the gates of hell. HARROW-INGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!. shortly thereafter, every non cool anime character's multiverse is incinerated. the bastard rules your ASS}

Goku, would kick Dark Schneider's @#$!!!

leonheartmm
BULL. dark schnieder destroyes galaxies even while flying PAST them. he can reshape the universe. he battles archangels. gogeto himself doesnt have a prayer.

Akuki

Akuki

Phenomenol
Originally posted by leonheartmm
BULL. dark schnieder destroyes galaxies even while flying PAST them. he can reshape the universe. he battles archangels. gogeto himself doesnt have a prayer.

You fail. This has been nothing but fanboyism fabrication. DS can do no such thing. He can't eve destroy planets!!!!

leonheartmm
untrue. you just want to discredit dark schnieder. he can destroy the universe with judas pain. youve got ZERO evidence to counter it.

majin dark schnieder is one of the most poerful characters ever created in mangadom.

Sandai Kitetsu
Pre-crisis supes laughing

Akuki
Originally posted by Phenomenol
Goku, would kick Dark Schneider's @#$!!!
that is so BS Dark Schnieder easily destroys Goku.

Sandai Kitetsu
So, is DS faster than light or not?

Akuki
Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
So, is DS faster than light or not?
According to everything that I have heard, I would definitely say yes, however since the final volumes have not been completely translated, I cannot give complete on panel proof of it, however from speaking on French forums where the manga is fully translated it does appear that he can move far faster than light.

Endless Mike
Considering he reached the core of the galaxy from Earth and it didn't take him thousands of years, he definitely is.

Oh, and Phenomenol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/majingojira/Logic-Cthulhu.gif

Sandai Kitetsu
It took four years to get from the center of the Galaxy to earth, right?

Akuki
Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
It took four years to get from the center of the Galaxy to earth, right?
Yes which puts him at over a thousand times the speed of light.

Endless Mike
Originally posted by Akuki
Yes which puts him at over a thousand times the speed of light.

And he's gotten stronger since then

Haruhi
Originally posted by leonheartmm
untrue. you just want to discredit dark schnieder. he can destroy the universe with judas pain. youve got ZERO evidence to counter it.

majin dark schnieder is one of the most poerful characters ever created in mangadom.

Most powerful, non omnipotent characters, definitely.

Anyways, DS pwns Goku. Easily.

Akuki
Some on panel proof of DS's power level:

http://i18.tinypic.com/548o40m.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1723/noinoi1ou6.png

chickenlover98
umm well seeing as i dont disagree with you guys that hed pwn goku, akuki you said adn atom bomb can kill each shield? plz dont get angry at me for this btw, but goku could easily destroy the moon and most likely planets that would break a bunch of shields would it not? considering ud need a shitload of nukes to blow up the moon

Akuki
Originally posted by chickenlover98
umm well seeing as i dont disagree with you guys that hed pwn goku, akuki you said adn atom bomb can kill each shield? plz dont get angry at me for this btw, but goku could easily destroy the moon and most likely planets that would break a bunch of shields would it not? considering ud need a shitload of nukes to blow up the moon
That's not really what I said. I stated that he has Thousands of shields, each of which can take nuclear weapons impacts and higher and he is constantly rebuilding those every millisecond. If you read my last post you'll notice he has the Judas pain which has a power level equal to the great abyss, which is a supersized black hole that serves as a prison for Satan and all the devils of hell. DS have fought confirmed galaxy busters and won, which is why we state that Goku has no chance in hell.

chickenlover98
i understand that completely just sayin he could get through alotta shiel;ds. even though theyd rebuild

Akuki
Dark Schneider is so powerful he has omnipotent women from other universes in his harem.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/taleran/haremhq7-cen.jpg

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