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Rosters:
Roldz - Dane, Warbird, Grail
Scoobs - Sasquatch, Hank Pym, Moonstone??

Battle Location: Antarctica. An invisible impenetrable forcefield will surround the continent in a bubble, extending a mile beneath the surface and approximately 10 miles above the surface. Combatants will start .5 kilometers away from each other, but behind large snow drifts and not in plain sight of one another.

Match Length: Match will end Tuesday the 14th at midnight EST.

Notes: Previous match rulings and post limits apply

Judges: TBA

Have fun.

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See this is the beauty of power meshing; Both Dane and Backlash where members of team 7 and both where present when exposed to the Gen-Factor (psionic energy)..

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t7arcklightgent71le9.jpg

Backlash is the one w/ short white hair and a painted arrow on his face, Dane is the big lug w/ a beard..

So i should be able to use Dane's feat through Backlash gen-factor..

The diff. between the 2s gen-factor abilities is just training and Backlash kherubim heritage farther inhance by the gen-factor..


As explained above my char. does possess TP.. Not only that but Binary can see u through EM spetrum scan. Dane learnt it from absorbing Grails exp. stored through the original mass symbiote accessed via Dane's own symbiote..

Locating u shouldnt be a problem..

I doubt ur intangibilitly works against an energy blast..

U have no defense against TP and TK attacks..

Ive got a few defense against that puny attack ; i see u and im faster than a speeding bullet, u cant really surprise me.. Mist form is a perfect defense against that, i also have energy shields..

Going FTL speed around the battle field should wreak all sorts of havok on the land masses, splitting it in diff. peaces and expose us in the vacuum of space..

I doubt Moonstone would be able to survive indef. w/ out O2 and the extreme temp. should have great effect not to mention she's not well verse in fighting outside Earth atmosphere..

It would be quite diff. for her to manipulate her body's specific gravity in space, this is required to turn intangible and it would be even harder if shes being attack TP and TK..

My char. however functions nicely and at home in space..

- FTL Speed Blitz
- TP and TK assault
- Energy Blast

Ways my char. can beat Scoobs char..

Well rounded versatility >>>>>>>>>>> Brute strength..

Sorry for the speed of this match, my fault, haven't been online all week.

Post #1: Bigfoot = Moonstone, Sasquatch & Yellowjacket

Originally posted by Roldz
Both Dane and Backlash where members of team 7 and both where present when exposed to the Gen-Factor (psionic energy)..

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t7arcklightgent71le9.jpg

Backlash is the one w/ short white hair and a painted arrow on his face, Dane is the big lug w/ a beard..

So i should be able to use Dane's feat through Backlash gen-factor..

No, you can't:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backlash_(Wildstorm)

Backlash has zero telepathic powers .... arguing that the same cause of powers = the same powers is like saying all mutants can do exactly the same thing.

Dane has TP, not the symbiote and not Backlash.

Originally posted by Roldz
Binary can see u through EM spetrum scan. Dane learnt it from absorbing Grails exp. stored through the original mass symbiote accessed via Dane's own symbiote..

Your "Binary" plan has been shot down in every match so far because of the gaping holes in it.

Carol can't access her white star (or whatever it was) for a power source.
You have no evidence that she can absorb psi energy as it's never happened before.
Her powers are turned off completely for these matches ... it's not a case of messing with her body to try and turn them back on, they just don't exist in this tourney.

All of which means Carol's "Binary" powers aren't a factor and she can't use EM related abilities.

Originally posted by Roldz
I doubt ur intangibilitly works against an energy blast..

Actually it does:

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1/phaseln4.th.jpg

Originally posted by Roldz
U have no defense against TP and TK attacks..

You don't have TK or TP so there's really no need to address that point in this match.

Originally posted by Roldz
Ive got a few defense against that puny attack ; i see u and im faster than a speeding bullet, u cant really surprise me.. Mist form is a perfect defense against that, i also have energy shields..

I addressed your limited misting ability in my write up ... should be easy enough to find as it's the shortest opening post I've ever made.

You're not really fast at all as you don't even have Warbird's flight speed, let alone Binary's ... all you can do is turn to mist and float around a little, even that isn't too useful as turning to mist drains Backlash's strength and can only be kept up for very short time periods.

Energy shields are easily bypassed via phasing.

Originally posted by Roldz
Going FTL speed around the battle field should wreak all sorts of havok on the land masses, splitting it in diff. peaces and expose us in the vacuum of space..

Except for the entirely indestructible shield around the battlefield you mean?



Not that it matters as floating gas probably can't even hit 30mph.

Originally posted by Roldz
Well rounded versatility >>>>>>>>>>> Brute strength..

Don't mistake my favouring the use of brute force in previous rounds for a lack of versatility.... in this match BF is faster, stronger, practically invisible, virtually impossible to hit, has more powerful energy blasts, is camouflaging himself to match the background and can easily evade your offence/defence by phasing.

All you have is turning to mist (for short periods), limited super strength and little energy whips.

Originally posted by Roldz
- FTL Speed Blitz
- TP and TK assault
- Energy Blast

- Nope
- Nope and nope
- Where you getting energy blasts from? BL has those whips ... does that symbiote fire energy? .... doesn't really matter as your lack of TP or EM scanning means you'll never see Bigfoot and even if you could you couldn't possibly connect with an ant sized, intangible character flying around at high mach speeds and blending in with the background.

Once again, as soon as you de-mist (and you will have to) you're done, Hulk level impacts at thousands of miles per hour concentrated on an area smaller than a square centimeter means Bigfoot (or in this case "Littlefoot" will be able to fly your solid body easier than a knife passing through butter.

Basically it's like a normal human being shot in the head....

Bang - headshotkmc - you're dead.

Judge list:

- DC
- Smurph
- Bada
- goober
- batdude (I think)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backlash_(Wildstorm)

"When first exposed to the Gen-Factor, Marc had extensive psionic powers including telepathy and telekinesis."

Pre - Kherubim Backlash has psionic powers, it says so in the link u provided .. Which is the char. im using......

In that i totally agree w/ u but in this instant what this specific Gen-factor gives is Psionic powers (Psionic energy manipulation ie. physical attribute inhancement, TP/TK abilities)..

All Team 7 members possess said so powers..

Grifter
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/rushgrifter.jpg

Lynch
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/rush.jpg

Backlash
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/rushBL.jpg

Backlash (Powers) possess psionic powers, Dane (Mind) has experience/training regarding control over said so powers, this should allow me access to Dane's psionic feat..

My "Binary Plan" was not presented properly for lack of scan/proof in proving my claim therefore it failed to persuade the judges.. It cant hurt to try and try again ..

Carol may not but the Gen-factor is present within Arcknight; the amalgamated char. which gives him the ability to manipulate psionic energy, its just common sense that the body should be able to control/absorbs such energies..

Carols powers comes from her unique Dna matrix; the Whitehole/Star she's link to just provides her energy source to maintain these powers at max ( the Binary form )..

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/carol26.jpg

Her powers are turned off but not removed when at time for drafting said so char. ( body ) but as presented w/ right power meshing and so long as its proveded proof, it is legal to utilized this char. full powers..

This strategy(power meshing) was presented to Darthgoober way before this tourny even started and he ruled it OKAY. So deaming it illegal is not fair to my case when actual tourny started. + I dont really see any diff. of what Leonildas did in his prep w/ Deathead II as what im doing w/ Warbird (Utilizing the body for additional power)..

BINARY .. All her abilities incl. EM manipulation..

A puny energy blast yes, but im talkin about a blast that affects the very energy that Moonstone uses to turn intangible; Gravity.

Anyhow my char. can turn you tangible if need be and then attack..

http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mattermanipulationdeathnr1.jpg

I think you need to address it cause my char. does have Psionic powers..

Actually you addressed it wrong Scoobs..

My amalgamated char. does not need to breath unlike Backlash, therefore i can be at mistform as long as i want.

Your plan of attack is not going to worked against my char..

Ohh and Backlash mist form doesn't drain his energy, it just the fact that he needs to breath cant mentain it that long a period..

Cosmic level physical stat. >>>>>>>>>>> Superhuman physical stat.
This would make my char. FASTER, REFLEX..

Well he can slam himself on that indestructible shield after after he puts BF to the ground, if he so feels it..

Antartica w/ extra 10 miles above and .5 KM below is wide and long enough to achieve FTL velocity..

Floating gas at FTL speed would be funny to look at..

Sorry but i really dont see it..

Faster - NO, Cosmic level >>>>>> super human.
Stronger - NOT really but it is really irrelevant in this match
Invisible - NO, i see all EM spectrum not to mention TP scan..
Impossible to hit (Phasing) - See scan above..
More powerfull energy blast - your kidding..
Camouflaging to match background - Aint going to work...

- Yes
- Yes and yes
- Binary can blast, Backlash can blast and charged energy whips..
- EM spectrum/TP scan locating BF shouldnt be a problem.
- Arcknights has counter all of BF's attack..

Well you'll be waiting along time for my char. to de-mist..

Give's me ample of time to proceed w/ my plan of attack.
Even if BF survived the first initial assault, hed find the battle location greatly changed.. Atmospheric pressure/gravity and the likes exposed in the vacuum of space. My char. can fight, is at home in the vastness of space, can survived indefinetly and has no need of Oxygen, i couldnt say desame w/ BF..

Too bad this char. is not normal human..

Bang -- surprise -- Your not dead? Me wah??

Post # - Bigfoot: Moonstone, Sasquatch & Yellowjacket

Originally posted by Roldz
Pre - Kherubim Backlash has psionic powers, it says so in the link u provided .. Which is the char. im using......

Then start using Backlash's feats if he has any that back up anything you're claiming ... Dane's psi-feats have nothing to do with this match and should not be considered by anyone reading this.

Originally posted by Roldz
My "Binary Plan" was not presented properly for lack of scan/proof in proving my claim

Carol has had access to thousands of power sources and the best geneticists alive, if her powers only needed an energy source they would have be reactivated long ago ... Beast scanned and tested her thoroughly and came to the conclusion that she would never be Binary again.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2023/warbirdcq9.th.jpg

It's not happening because it can't happen.

Originally posted by Roldz
Anyhow my char. can turn you tangible if need be and then attack..

http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mattermanipulationdeathnr1.jpg

Um ... to me that looks like a teleportation attack has been blocked ... regardless though, you're direct interfering with my physical state is offensive matter manip ... if it wasn't then I'd have phased you (and every other person I've faced in this tourney) into the ground for an insta-kill.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6259/phasesothersdc3.th.jpg http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5931/phasedgrabthroughwallay4.th.jpg

All BF would have to do is let go during this and you're either dead or crippled.

Originally posted by Roldz
My amalgamated char. does not need to breath unlike Backlash, therefore i can be at mistform as long as i want.

Carol does breath & Binary isn't happening.

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You've based your entire plan on the false assumption that all Carol needs to do is find a big enough battery pack and she's suddenly Binary again.

You're also using the feats of non-competing characters (Dane, Grail) to argue for the abilities of another character (Backlash).


As your Binary plan has failed, you have nothing to fall back on, which means the match will go as I pointed out in my previous post.

Let me explain this again.

Dane, backlash and the rest of team 7 was exposed to this specific gen-factor giving them exact similar abilities, the only diff. in how some of there abilities manifested is the way they trained in the use of this new powers..

I dont see how Dane's couldnt use his own feat using Backlash gen-factor.. It is basically desame power source Dane used to accomplished all his tp/tk feat..

This is what makes power meshing interesting..

It needs a near unlimited source of energies which is not easy to come by.. Reed Richard, Tony and the likes, probably could find a way to reactivate this power but u saw in the scan what Warbird says; " Just do me a favor Beast and don't tell anyone." She wants to be in the Avengers so much, that she doesnt want anybody to know about her being powered down, that right there ends all test and experimentation regarding her powers, incl. reactivation of Binary form..

That scan u posted happened a long time ago and what matters is the present facts.. Warbird w/ suitable supply of energy source can turn into her Binary form..

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/Collective.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/Collective1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Ms._Marvel_Repowered.jpg

Guess Beast was wrong..
Warbird w/ near unlimited power source = Binary..
Originally posted by Scoobless
Post # - Bigfoot: Moonstone, Sasquatch & Yellowjackethttp://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6259/phasesothersdc3.th.jpg http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5931/phasedgrabthroughwallay4.th.jpg

All BF would have to do is let go during this and you're either dead or crippled.

Carol does breath & Binary isn't happening.

My bad it does look more of like a matter manipulation feat rather than a energy blast.. ( llegal )

If this was allowed you couldnt really do that move in that scan anyway, my char. can so choose to make both char tangible...

Phase or not, your still suceptible against psionic attacks..

As explained above Binary is happening.. But well see what the judges says..

False i dont think so, there's plenty enough scan to prove that its possible w/ the right power meshing..

Again power meshing, ive explained it in my write up why this is possible.. To make things short Dane fully merging w/ his symbiote allows him accessed/links to wisdom/knowledge garnered by the symbiote original mass; This includes Grails experience and skills gathered by his symbiote then tranfered to the symbiotes orginal mass.. All symbiotes can communicate to each other that of including The symbiotes ORIGINAL MASS (in unknown location, at the very least thats what the comics says)..
Grail is an Energy manipulator..

Ive provided proof why my Binary plan should work..

But even without it ive still got psionic powers including TP/TK..
- I can find u via telepathic scan
- Your not immune to this form of attack, even in your phase form..
- Waiting for my char. to de-mist is not going to work. My char. does not need to stay in mist form all the time as he knows if theres apporoaching opponent via TP locate/scan..
- Full tp/tk blast is all i need to bring u down..

Your plan spoiled even w/ out Binary form..

Binary or w/ out Binary i still win ...

Time is up. I will have my vote in tomorrow.

judge list:

Originally posted by Badabing
Time is up. I will have my vote in tomorrow.
Ignore my post above for the judge list.

Judge list:

- DC
- Smurph
- Bada
- goober
- batdude

Bada's Vote

Good match guys.

Roldz has progressed a lot in his debating and presentation during this tourny. I just wasn't totally convinced of the TK/TP powers would be working the way he presented. He had a good amalgam but, imho, didn't use the full array of powers and focused on the TK/TP which I thought Scoobs presented reasonable doubt.

Scoobless showed evidence to support his character and cast doubt on Roldz's character. I found he can back up his plan while discrediting his opponents plan with scans and other evidence.

My vote is for Scoobs

Smurph's Vote

This match surprised me with how close it was. Roldz played the underdog quite well.

I thought that Roldz had the superior offense, but Scoob did a good job casting doubt upon his chosen methods of attack. Scoob had a solid offense and defense, and I think Roldz' weakest area was his defense... after Scoob seemed to prove that the mist form couldn't be held constantly, or at least held it in very reasonable doubt, his whole plan seemed to hinge on his offense, which, while superior, also seemed to be thrown into doubt.

I think the biggest reason that Scoob gets the edge is that his prep is solid and very hard to disprove, which seems to be key in this tourney.

Vote: Scoob.

Well, I don't think it's much use for me to repeat stuff said here, as I agree with the previous judges. It was indeed close, surprised me. But Scoob's showing was just more solid overall, so I vote for Scoobless.

Good match.