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Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation?

Is this like asking if little boys are mean to little girls on the playground, because they secretly like them?

Originally posted by Devil King
Is this like asking if little boys are mean to little girls on the playground, because they secretly like them?

Exactly like that.

Originally posted by Devil King
Is this like asking if little boys are mean to little girls on the playground, because they secretly like them?


It doesn't have to be a socially awkward crush in which a person is ashamed that they like/infatuated with a social no-no.

It could be in any situation, parental, teacher, coworker, classmate, friend, spouse, boy or girl friend, etc.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation?

I never get into relationships that are abusive.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I never get into relationships that are abusive.

If it's parental, how is that the child's fault. If it's a boss, how is that the coworker's fault.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
If it's parental, how is that the child's fault. If it's a boss, how is that the coworker's fault.

If it's a parent? That parent does not deserve respect.

If my boss was being abusive, I would talk to his/her boss and if that didn't work, I would find a new job.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
If it's parental, how is that the child's fault? If it's a boss, how is that the coworker's fault?

Fault is irrelevent. The more interesting subject is how the person being abused (or liked so much, they're hated) can use this to their own advantage.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation? You ask alot of weird and random questions. I don't know, I generally don't give a damn what abusers want.

The lady doth protest too much.

Originally posted by Devil King
Fault is irrelevent. The more interesting subject is how the person being abused (or liked so much, they're hated) can use this to their own advantage.

if a person is liked so much that they are hated, what is that called, jealousy or envy? i don't think our entertainers overcome that issue.

What's the difference between jealousy and envy?

what issue?

There is no difference, jealousy and envy are one and the same.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
if a person is liked so much that they are hated, ...

What? Can you give me an example?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What? Can you give me an example?

Well, I was expounding on D.K's comment....I've heard people say this before, loving to the point of hate, and I tried to think of how that could happen, and the only two emotions that motivate it is jealousy or envy, but you probably do you have a better way of describing it.

Originally posted by Devil King
Fault is irrelevent. The more interesting subject is how the person being abused (or liked so much, they're hated) can use this to their own advantage.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Well, I was expounding on D.K's comment....I've heard people say this before, loving to the point of hate, and I tried to think of how that could happen, and the only two emotions that motivate it is jealousy or envy, but you probably do you have a better way of describing it.

Then, in that case, I don't think they know what love or hate is.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Well, I was expounding on D.K's comment

It wasn't my comment. It was the basic point of your thread.

Maybe they love her, and they suffer because of it, so they in turn also hate the person?

Originally posted by Devil King
What's the difference between jealousy and envy?

what issue?

i think envy is an emotion that is motivated when someone doesn't want you to have or IMAGINE more, meaning they will get upset or envious about what you own or think.

i think jealousy is an emotion that is motivated when someone doesn't want you to have whatever it is you own, could be the image/mind or things, they will get jealous over your own THOUGHTS or deeds or possessions.

envy = someone upset that you have or APPEAR to have MORE then them = weight

jealousy = someone not wanting you to have what you own at all = try to create "without"/desolation/destitute


sorry this is so old, here's the old paradox:
remember the Greek paradox about envy and jealousy. both were able to bless each other. they are both people, but one is jealousy and the other is envy. and a genie walks across their path and tells them they can have a wish after crossing into a new world, but the first one in will end up blessing the one behind with double portions. so, they both argue but decide that envy goes in first. envy realizes that jealousy will own twice the amount and decides to pull out one eye. jealousy thinks he's getting double portions, but ends up blind, b/c jealousy was left with double of envy. jealousy blinded by envy.

I have never been in an abusive relationship. People that do that should be taken out and dealt with.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
i think envy is an emotion that is motivated when someone doesn't want you to have or IMAGINE more, meaning they will get upset or envious about what you own or think.

i think jealousy is an emotion that is motivated when someone doesn't want you to have whatever it is you own, could be the image/mind or things, they will get jealous over your own THOUGHTS or deeds or possessions.

envy = someone upset that you have or APPEAR to have MORE then them = weight

jealousy = someone not wanting you to have what you own at all = try to create "without"/desolation/destitute


sorry this is so old, here's the old paradox:
remember the Greek paradox about envy and jealousy. both were able to bless each other. they are both people, but one is jealousy and the other is envy. and a genie walks across their path and tells them they can have a wish after crossing into a new world, but the first one in will end up blessing the one behind with double portions. so, they both argue but decide that envy goes in first. envy realizes that jealousy will own twice the amount and decides to pull out one eye. jealousy thinks he's getting double portions, but ends up blind, b/c jealousy was left with double of envy. jealousy blinded by envy.

You would be interesting to meet in real life. However, it would be a frightening experience.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You would be interesting to meet in real life. However, it would be a frightening experience.



How did you know I'm ugly?

Seriously, when I was a kid, and my mom and sis would take pics at the mall, I would be filled with joy, until I saw myself. I would just think UNJUST, what happened here? My mom assured me that I was beautiful, and I repeated that to anyone at school that called me ugly..."my mom said..."

It would be very interesting to meet you as well.

(there, that solves the conflict of message boards having a purpose of gathering, which is a bit of a fuss in some circles, from what I read a couple of days ago).

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
How did you know I'm ugly?

Seriously, when I was a kid, and my mom and sis would take pics at the mall, I would be filled with joy, until I saw myself. I would just think UNJUST, what happened here? My mom assured me that I was beautiful, and I repeated that to anyone at school that called me ugly..."my mom said..."

It would be very interesting to meet you as well.

(there, that solves the conflict of message boards having a purpose of gathering, which is a bit of a fuss in some circles, from what I read a couple of days ago).

I never said you were ugly, just strange.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I never said you were ugly, just strange.


Strange...uhm...what on earth could that mean?

Uhm, that adjective doesn't speak for itself, it's not a complete sentence. Strange.

So, I had to search the thesaurus to find possible interpretations for the word "Strange".

deviating

exotic

odd

abnormal

different

foreigner

non-conforming

unrealistic

secret(ive)

There's like 7 pages of possible root interpretations for the word "strange". Strange.

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/strange

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
sorry this is so old, here's the old paradox:
remember the Greek paradox about envy and jealousy. both were able to bless each other. they are both people, but one is jealousy and the other is envy. and a genie walks across their path and tells them they can have a wish after crossing into a new world, but the first one in will end up blessing the one behind with double portions. so, they both argue but decide that envy goes in first. envy realizes that jealousy will own twice the amount and decides to pull out one eye. jealousy thinks he's getting double portions, but ends up blind, b/c jealousy was left with double of envy. jealousy blinded by envy.
Removing a Kidney would be a better choice.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Strange...uhm...what on earth could that mean?

Uhm, that adjective doesn't speak for itself, it's not a complete sentence. Strange.

So, I had to search the thesaurus to find possible interpretations for the word "Strange".

deviating

exotic

odd

abnormal

different

foreigner

non-conforming

unrealistic

secret(ive)

There's like 7 pages of possible root interpretations for the word "strange". Strange.

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/strange You use dictionaries to find the meaning of words. Thesauruses if you need similar ones.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation?

Are you abusing someone because you want their respect CC? Where is your empathy?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Are you abusing someone because you want their respect CC? Where is your empathy?


hug who me?

thesaurus is related to a field of CONCEPTs, if I want to expound on the concept, I will use a thesaurus for it (and dictionary), but mostly a thesaurus, obviously, the angle of "strange" could be seen as different or exotic, the list of words was to show that it really depends on HIS point of view, which he's entitled.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation? How do you explain people abusing babies then?

I've never been in a physically abusive relationship, though I've been in an envious, emotionally passive aggressive one, which is a form of abuse and control.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation? seems like a funny way to get that respect ermm

Originally posted by Strangelove
seems like a funny way to get that respect ermm

It's terrible, but I've seen it happen in various kind of relationships.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I've never been in a physically abusive relationship, though I've been in an envious, emotionally passive aggressive one, which is a form of abuse and control.

Well, envious..may that would mean that they didn't want you to do better or have "more" in either esteem (private thoughts of yourself) and/or material. Do you feel they were also motived to see you in a state of reduction (of esteem or material) in order to establish a dependency so that they can decide if you are now worthy of gifting back your self worth or material items? I've seen this done to myself and others.

I forgot to add, with the prespective on jealousy "jealousy = someone not wanting you to have what you own at all ", it would make sense why someone can look prettier then you or I, or have a nicer body or more in shape, but at the sametime, may not want that for you. It's odd so see a jealous hearted pretty woman/man but they are out there, and it's always a shock for some to understand this about someone who is so very pretty or celebrated.

i missed the 15 min timing, may = maybe

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Strange...uhm...what on earth could that mean?

Uhm, that adjective doesn't speak for itself, it's not a complete sentence. Strange.

So, I had to search the thesaurus to find possible interpretations for the word "Strange".

deviating

exotic

odd

abnormal

different

foreigner

non-conforming

unrealistic

secret(ive)

There's like 7 pages of possible root interpretations for the word "strange". Strange.

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/strange

It is strange that you don't know the meaning of the word strange.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is strange that you don't know the meaning of the word strange.

yeah, talk about totally different.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation? Don't get me started.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Don't get me started.

i can't get you started, only you can get youself started.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
i can't get you started, only you can get youself started. don't make a grown man cryyyyy....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
don't make a grown man cryyyyy....

ok...sorry!

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
ok...sorry!

Are you being abusive?

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
ok...sorry! Rolling Stones, silly.

cOYOExbzv-8

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Are you being abusive?

nope

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
nope

Then you get no respect.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation?

That is what the abuse person wants you to think.I been around of people who been beat up an d always with the help of police had gottne out of there houses quick.
I would advice people to findout alittle more abot your lover before marrying them.OR moving in or whatever.Terri

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
That is what the abuse person wants you to think.I been around of people who been beat up an d always with the help of police had gottne out of there houses quick.
I would advice people to findout alittle more abot your lover before marrying them.OR moving in or whatever.Terri


Yeah, it's not only about a lover, it could be someone who wants to domiante another into a centain culture or race. Remember freedom of association, the constitutional right, well, some don't care about our constitution.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Rolling Stones, silly. Saw them in concert!! drunk