Was NORAD simply incompetent on 9-11? dont think so.

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Mr Parker
one of the great books out there about 9-11 to read if you want to learn the truth about that day -and I read many of them,you should really read is TOWERS OF DECEPTION.the media coverup of 9-11 by Barry Zwicker.Not only does this book do an outstanding job of showing how the mainstream media covered up 9-11 and explains why and how it was an inside job,it also as well does an outstanding job of explaining how they have lied and covered up other multiple things as well and why they do such as the kennedy assassination,waco,oklahoma,ect.after reading through this page from the book I am going to quote here,hopefully people here will have a better understanding that on 9-11,NORAD-North American Aerospace Defense Command wasnt just merely incompetent that day which is the governments explanation for why the planes were able to hit the towers and pentagan,but the ONLY way the attacks could have been carried out against the towers and the pentagan is if NORAD had orders to stand down that day and let it happen because they were told to do so.Zwicker offers several exhibits to look at in his book which are smoking guns.the one I will qoute from the book is exhibit F from page 60 with the title headed-

NORAD has been well prepared for Major Emergencies since 1961.
it goes on to state-On October 15th,1961,with US president John F. Kennedy at Hyannis Port and the "soviet threat" the bogeyman of choice,it might seem that evidence relating to september 11th, 2001 would be scarce on the ground or in the air.But on this day,almost 45 years before 9/11,the largest air defense to date begins.As reported in The New York Times on oct 14th 1961,for 12 hours,residents of the united states and canada heard repeated sonic booms as 1,800 fighter planes flew 6000 sorties,intercepting hundreds of "enemy" bombers and missiles attempting to attack North American targets,including 250 missile sites.During Operation Sky Shield II,personnel at 106 radar consoles scanned-as they do everyday-an area of 10 million square miles as intruders,singly and in threes,"attacked." The intruders released aluminum "chaff" to confuse domestic radars,and sent out "energetic" electronic counter signals." to jam the same radars.

Domestic defenders sent out "counter counter measures" even while tracking hundreds of flights and identifying them as F friendly,hostile H OR Fake K.Defenders,The New York Times reported,had two minutes to make identification before deciding whether to issue a scramble order.Interceptor flight crews,their "quick don" boots nearby,occupied lounge chairs,a 30 second sprint from their aircraft. "One F-106 Delta Dart pilot,Capt. Harmon A.Dungan of the 539th Fighter -Interceptor Squadron" the times stated, "had been on 5 minute alert since 7:20 AM. at 4:47PM,The "scramble order came and he was airborne at 4:52"

Commanding officers at combat centers in the pentagan,at NORAD headquarters at Colorado Springs and at Strategic Air Command headquartes in Omaha shared live secure telephone conference links.All followed developments on electronic screens occupying two walls.All information was fed into a giant computer {it weighs 175 tons,this is 1961.} at Mcguire AFB in Wrightstown NJ. President Kennedy was informed that the exercise was a success.

How does this relate to 9/11? If North American Air Defenses were THIS Capable in 1961,would they be any less capable 45 years later?


well all of that is taken straight from that book that I mentioned in the beginning except for the first paragraph thats mine of course.
But after reading through all that,anybody with logic and common sense would know and understand that 9-11 could NEVER have happened unless NORAD was told to stand down that day.Because as that book stated,the military has protocals in place-SOP'S-Standard operating procedures they follow where if a jet aircraft has strayed off course,they have protocals in place 24 HOURS A DAY no less,they follow where they will have jet fighters scrambled and in the air within 5 minutes to intercept the aircraft that have strayed off course.

And new york and washington are the most heavily patrolled and most advanced air defense systems in the world,not just in america.so obviously it couldnt have been just mere incompetence by NORAD as is the governments explanation.Further evidence that it wasnt merely just incompetence,that they had to have orders to stand down that day,is that their SHOULD have been many heads rolling that day with MULTIPLE firings of top personal that day.yet there were NO firings of anybody.what were there? Bush promoted the head person who was in charge of it all.sounds like treason to me.

Not only that,you have the coincidence of the transportaion officer testifying before the 9-11 commission Norman Mineta telling the commission that a young officer came up to Cheney in the bunker when the supposed aircraft was within 10 miles of the bunker yelling out-do those orders still stand sir? and Cheney replying-Of course they still stand,have you heard anything to the contrary? in a real angry voice. well what were those orders? they obviously werent to scramble fighters to intercept the so called jet airliner,were they just orders to sit down and brace yourself or something? highly unlikely. the more likely and logical explanation was the orders coming from cheney were to stand down and not deploy the fighters to scramble you would have to conclude.I mean the coinicidences just pile up stack after stack to the point where it becomes so redicules,they dont become coincidences anymore.

Scythe
I can see where you're coming from. I think alot can be done these things and to call it all a cover up is actually believable in my eyes.

Bicnarok
Too many coincidences to have been just an "accident" , theres no such thing as coincidencessmile

Mr Parker
yep.its exactly like the kennedy assassination.the coincidences just keep piling up over and over with stacks of them that it becomes so redicules that they they dont become coincidences anymore that eventually it becomes obvious that it could not have been pulled off without people in high postions of power in the government allowing it to intentionally happen.

Blax_Hydralisk
Can we just lump all the 9/11 conspiracies into one thread? It's all the same conspiracy, just with different articles.

Mr Parker
thats what the mods SHOULD have done a LONG time ago is tell people to post their 9-11 threads on the 9-11 thread we have which is back on page two.They should have because Deano and Lord Xyz kept making so many damn multiple ones. mad

Sandai Kitetsu
Between the time that flights 11 & 175 were confirmed to be hijacked and attacked the trade center. There was a total of 36 minutes, with no planes scrambled to intercept flight 175. While flight 77 was in the air for 46 minutes, with full knowledge that it was aimed at either: The Pentagon, The capitol house, or The White House. Nevermind, that andrews base was only minutes away.

Mr Parker
thats true,very good point.The other thing thats a joke about the governments explanation is when the golfer champion Payne stewarts jet veered off course because of a malfunction in the plane,after NORAD lost contact with the plane,within 20 minutes after the jet left the airport,they had military jets scrambled up in the air within that time frame side by side in the air next to the jet to escort the plane.Yet these NORAD people were like the keystone cops that day on 9-11 and even an hour and a half later after the towers were struck,NORAD was so incompetent that day that they never scrmebled thier pilots by at least that time to protect the bunker in washing,the most heavily patrolled and sophisticated air defense in the world? yeah right.Give me a break.only a moron would believe that fairly tale that they could have simply been that incompetent that day instead of being told to stand down.

Sandai Kitetsu
Payne Stewarts plane was intercepted at 18 minutes by one f-16 then three more in 20 minutes.

lord xyz
I'm glad you're telling other people. This is an interesting find. I might look into it.

Mr Parker
well looks like this thread has run its course and all the people that are going to respond to it have.well thanks for the postings guys.

Arachnid1
Parker. I can see where your comming from and howe its possible, but there is one very important question that stands in the way.

Why? Why get over 300 people killed and destroy millions of dollors worth of buildings? Why kill a good president? It doesn't add up because theres no reason, which, in turn, makes the government the one thing they despise. Terrorists. I don't think they would do those things without a reason.

lord xyz
It's an excuse to go into war?

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Parker. I can see where your comming from and howe its possible, but there is one very important question that stands in the way.

Why? Why get over 300 people killed and destroy millions of dollors worth of buildings? Why kill a good president? It doesn't add up because theres no reason, which, in turn, makes the government the one thing they despise. Terrorists. I don't think they would do those things without a reason.

actually add on one more zero there and that will be the accurate death count there. wink why? these are evil men,they dont care. kill a good president? err what you talking about? no president has been killed and the Bush sure as hell isnt a good president. confused our government did this because bush and cheny profited big time from it.as long as theres profits to be made,thats all that matters to them.

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