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BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Thirty Mega-ton Warhead explodes.
Who is the weakest that could survive this?!?!?!?
Oh yeah, that pic is what a 10 megaton warhead whould do.

kitty pride??

What happened to 1?

Bryne's Superman?

He survived a 40 megaton bomb, that knocked him out for 30 minutes.

Originally posted by Hitman911
BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Thirty Mega-ton Warhead explodes.
Who is the weakest that could survive this?!?!?!?
Oh yeah, that pic is what a 10 megaton warhead whould do.


That pic is not 10 megatons..............

That looks more like a 100 teraton bolide impact

Originally posted by Endless Mike
That looks more like a 100 teraton bolide impact

Hell yeah.

Freaking wipe out everything within a thousand miles it looks, the shock wave alone could probably injure people a few 1000 miles more away at least.

The fallout would then proceed to kill nearly everything in the western hemisphere, and the debris shot into the atmosphere would more then likely lower the temp of the earth for a few years, killing a good majority of plants and wildlife.

Yeah, that's much more then 10 megatons, hell the TSAR BOMB (50 megatons) had a blast radius of about 20-30 miles, and the mushroom cloud shot up to like 15 miles.

Like I said, that's like, 1000 mile blast radius, and looks to reach out into space with its mushroom cloud.

Since it's hitting in the Yucatan area, I'm guessing it's supposed to represent the KT extinction (the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs)

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Since it's hitting in the Yucatan area, I'm guessing it's supposed to represent the KT extinction (the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs)



Your right, 100 teratons it is!

Originally posted by Rutog98
The nuke's energy will never hit her (Storm) as her winds will redirect it.

WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?eer

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Since it's hitting in the Yucatan area, I'm guessing it's supposed to represent the KT extinction (the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs)


Yea, that's a pic of the KT asteroid collision, not a 10 megaton bomb.


That explosion would be in the tetratons of force.

Hitman consider yourself reported for your most recent post above

Originally posted by don't shiv
EDIT YOUR POST NOW. HITMAN

No he doesn't have to - let's just go with it.

Nobody under full-fledged herald level should survive a collision/explosion of that magnitude without advance warning or prep.

Of course, I fully expect the x-fanboys to come in here with their Magneto, Storm, and Iceman bullcrap.

Originally posted by don't shiv
Hitman consider yourself reported for your most recent post above Jumpy

I'm no Storm Basher, Shiv.
but that post was criminal....

Originally posted by Hitman911
WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?eer

there's no need for that.

How many Megatons do y'all think this explosion was?

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_solar47.jpg

Originally posted by pr1983
there's no need for that.
ok ok my bad!
any way. Hulk?

Originally posted by Galan007
How many Megatons do y'all think this explosion was?

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_solar47.jpg

I'm going to guess a few hundred gigatons or maybe up to a tetraton. I take it that's Antarctica, and a blast that would cover that much area on such a large continent would have to throw enough debris into the atmosphere to pretty much thrust the entire Earth into a "nuclear" winter that would last months, maybe even years and cause an extinction-like event.

but its comics, and I bet everything was fine and dandy the next day - sun shining and all.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
I'm going to guess a few hundred gigatons or maybe up to a tetraton. Cool,

I'm just trying to gauge one of the various blasts Solar can generate.


Originally posted by boriquaking55
I take it that's Antarctica, and a blast that would cover that much area on such a large continent would have to throw enough debris into the atmosphere to pretty much thrust the entire Earth into a "nuclear" winter that would last months, maybe even years and cause an extinction-like event.

but its comics, and I bet everything was fine and dandy the next day - sun shining and all. You guessed it.

I got a huge problem with that scan that I bet most people wouldn't even realize -

Why is Antarctica so small in comparison to the curvature of the sphere of the Earth? Antarctica is a large continent and isn't depicted quite to it's proper scale in that scan.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
Why is Antarctica so small in comparison to the curvature of the sphere of the Earth? Antarctica is a large continent and isn't depicted quite to it's proper scale in that scan. Either the artist didn't really take that into account..... Or the explosion was intended to look bigger.

Originally posted by Galan007
Either the artist didn't really take that into account..... Or the explosion was intended to look bigger.

or it's just me being way too nitpicky.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
or it's just me being way too nitpicky. Or that. 131

From what I've read in Future Imperfect, I'd assume that if The Hulk Tunneled beneath the planet a few miles, that he could survive that explosion, and when he came out he'd just get stronger as he absorbed the radiation. Juggernaut would survive, Lobo, Pitt, Doomsday, Stardust... there are actually loads of characters that would survive, due to either their unique physiology, or magical abilities.

Apocalypse could do it if he had a few seconds to morph his body.

I'd like to see what could survive 2nd Impact.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Apocalypse could do it if he had a few seconds to morph his body.

I'd like to see what could survive 2nd Impact.
GTFO

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Apocalypse could do it if he had a few seconds to morph his body.

I'd like to see what could survive 2nd Impact.

Wasn't second impact mostly devastating due to it's Global Warming esq flooding ? Only instead of it happening slowly, (as it supposedly is currently) it happened all at once; causing several countries to be submerged ect

.... i'd say it would take someone like superman to survive...

Kitty pride... didn't get "hit" so she wouldn't count..

Hulk would be declared legally dead for a bout 5 minutes as would guys like deadpool and wolverine... even if they did come back through regen...

no.. no.. i'd say you'd need massive invulnerability to "survive" an attack like that... so i'd say the weakest guy would be juggernaut... current jugs.. the one that was just given his powers back by cyttorak in wwh.

As Gendo pointed out to Fuyutsuki when they went to retrieve the Lance, nothing can survive in Antarctica after 2nd impact. The entire area is inhabitable and a vast graveyard. The actual explosion of power at the heart of 2nd impact was immensely destructive.

dur you Jason.

Originally posted by Galan007
How many Megatons do y'all think this explosion was?

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_solar47.jpg

The mass of one human converted directly to energy makes about 10^17J/kilo. So . . . average guy in his 40s has a mass of 70kilograms.

Thats 2.3x10^48 J which is roughly 70000 megatons.

Surfer could easily

30-Megaton Nuke? Radioactive Man...by absorbing the radiation and/or redirecting it into a force field to protect him from the physical heat and impact force...

1000 Teraton Impact? I doubt even Supes could withstand being at "ground zero" for something like that

Originally posted by shksprtx
30-Megaton Nuke? Radioactive Man...by absorbing the radiation and/or redirecting it into a force field to protect him from the physical heat and impact force...

1000 Teraton Impact? I doubt even Supes could withstand being at "ground zero" for something like that

He recently got smashed into the earth and created an even larger explosion and was trapped in the earth's core but escaped, after being weakened and injured from nanites.

Superman could easily survive that... his hair wont even be flustered

Originally posted by Endless Mike
He recently got smashed into the earth and created an even larger explosion and was trapped in the earth's core but escaped, after being weakened and injured from nanites.

Supes or Chen Lu? Not quite sure I follow you...

I know Dr. Doom's suit can take a nuclear blast...but, i'm not sure how large of a blast. Anyone know? I don't think his suit can take this kind of explosion though.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
I know Dr. Doom's suit can take a nuclear blast...but, i'm not sure how large of a blast. Anyone know? I don't think his suit can take this kind of explosion though.

Doom would most likely need both a forcefield and a mystical shield up to take the brunt of it.

Originally posted by shksprtx
Supes or Chen Lu? Not quite sure I follow you...

Superman, in a future timeline shown to him by Arion

any GL

Guardian shields have taken an atmoic bomb blast, but not sure how strong it was.

Shaman sucked an atomic bomb blast into his pouch, does that count

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Guardian shields have taken an atmoic bomb blast, but not sure how strong it was.

Did it kill all other life on earth? If not, then it doesn't count.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Shaman sucked an atomic bomb blast into his pouch, does that count

No

http://www.dropbike.com/uploads/images/Mejo/431A924_Anubis2.gif

He could.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
http://www.dropbike.com/uploads/images/Mejo/431A924_Anubis2.gif

He could.

It's Anubis, of COURSE he can take the blast.

Originally posted by grey fox
It's Anubis, of COURSE he can take the blast.

Jehuty can do it too. And IMO, any decent OF with it's shields up could take that blast. It goes without saying that the mummy subweapon would ensure that there was no damage whatsoever.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Did it kill all other life on earth? If not, then it doesn't count.


He wrapped his shield around the explosion so no one got hurt soooo *shrugs*

I'm not sure if Hulk could survive it or not...it very well could vaporize him...and there is no re-generating from that. Hell, even Wolverine would have his flesh vaporized...leaving just his adamantium skeleton....no way he's coming back from this. Same goes for Deadpool.

Juggs, Supes...and anyone with that kind of invulnerability would be the only ones to survive...IMO.

Superman would survive. He's flown through
a red sun before. That's roughly equal to several
trillion nuclear bombs exploding simultameously.
And that's only the surface. It gets thousands of
times more intense as one nears the core. Superman
flew through it and got up fighting.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Hell, even Wolverine would have his flesh vaporized...leaving just his adamantium skeleton....no way he's coming back from this.

Ummm...Wolverine regenerated from just the adamantium skeleton in Civil War, so unless the blast disintegrates the skeleton and the flesh beneath he should be fine...

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He wrapped his shield around the explosion so no one got hurt soooo *shrugs*

That counts? Jehuty did that to a positronic bomb. He dumped it into a vector trap and contained the explosion.

Hell, Anubis has reflected beam weapons and missiles with his vector trap.

superman
hulk
human torch

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
superman
hulk
human torch maybe, no, no.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
superman
hulk
human torch

I dont think bottom 2 could...

BTW Wut counts as surviving, can they simply avoid it? (aka nightcrawler teleporting out for a decent about of time until the explosion disipates)

could captain atom survive?

Originally posted by Hitman911
ok ok my bad!
any way. Hulk?

say no more friend.
I forgives yew doped

and BUMP haermm

Does Healing from it count?

Originally posted by shksprtx
Ummm...Wolverine regenerated from just the adamantium skeleton in Civil War, so unless the blast disintegrates the skeleton and the flesh beneath he should be fine...

The sheer concussive force would turn his skeleton into an adimantium pretzel. then theres the heat and radiation........

Tell me if I'm wrong.....but even if STORM could deflect the blast with her "winds", shouldn't the shock wave of a 30 mega tonner shatter her bones to dust?

Storm.

She summoned the galactic core through her body. That's millions upon millions of suns, living worlds and a supermassive black hole(s).

And she is also mistress of the cosmic Storm. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/cosmic_storm_040924.html

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm.

She summoned the galactic core through her body. That's millions upon millions of suns, living worlds and a supermassive black hole(s).

And she is also mistress of the cosmic Storm. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/cosmic_storm_040924.html

true but could she do that in 5.......4.......3.......2......get the point?

Originally posted by Hitman911
true but could she do that in 5.......4.......3.......2......get the point?

She did it instantly.

54321 is just an eternity.

Originally posted by Scoobless
What happened to 1?


It was a dud.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She did it instantly.

54321 is just an eternity.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm.

She summoned the galactic core through her body. That's millions upon millions of suns, living worlds and a supermassive black hole(s).

And she is also mistress of the cosmic Storm. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/cosmic_storm_040924.html



a stick of dynamite would kill her

2damnloud is a creative genius.

I never would imagine Storm using her powers like that.

I mean, what does a galaxy look like? A big hurricane made of space dust, that's what!

I wonder why Storm never does stuff like that in comics.

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5978/xmenunlimited0121af3.th.jpghttp://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6445/stormandthegalaticcore15zq.th.jpghttp://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9628/stormandthegalaticcore29bc.th.jpg

http://www.clearharmony.net/articles/200410/22361.html





http://www.popcultureshock.com/fantastic-four-550-preview/42690/4/
http://www.popcultureshock.com/fantastic-four-550-preview/42690/5/



Storm wins

Originally posted by 2damnloud
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5978/xmenunlimited0121af3.th.jpghttp://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6445/stormandthegalaticcore15zq.th.jpghttp://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9628/stormandthegalaticcore29bc.th.jpg

http://www.clearharmony.net/articles/200410/22361.html





http://www.popcultureshock.com/fantastic-four-550-preview/42690/4/
http://www.popcultureshock.com/fantastic-four-550-preview/42690/5/



Storm wins You're the coolest.

Should have used her powers here...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/INFINTYWARS04-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/INFINTYWARS04-13.jpg

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Should have used her powers here...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/INFINTYWARS04-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/INFINTYWARS04-13.jpg

Yep, and made everyone completely invalid and made her look like she could take on Thanos on her own.

Hell, it should have just been she vs Thanos minus everyone else to begin with.

But then again, she wouldn't look right after beating him then fighting people like Magneto.

Damn teams

Also notice in FF 550, she makes the lightning in space without an atmosphere and without using a herald's body.

I AM the coolest mother****er around.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yep, and made everyone completely invalid and made her look like she could take on Thanos on her own.

Hell, it should have just been she vs Thanos minus everyone else to begin with.

But then again, she wouldn't look right after beating him then fighting people like Magneto.

Damn teams

Storm beating Thanos.....

Thanks. I needed a good laugh. Made my day a lot better.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Storm beating Thanos.....

Thanks. I needed a good laugh. Made my day a lot better.

I aim to please.

Now that's just sad

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Now that's just sad

your life??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
your life??

Your delusions.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
2damnloud is a creative genius.

I never would imagine Storm using her powers like that.

I mean, what does a galaxy look like? A big hurricane made of space dust, that's what!

I wonder why Storm never does stuff like that in comics. I never thought of it that way. A galaxy is just a hurricane on a slightly larger level. dursmart duryes durlaugh

Originally posted by Badabing
I never thought of it that way. A galaxy is just a hurricane on a slightly larger level. dursmart duryes durlaugh

SHE'S GOT TEH COSMIC LIGHTNINGN IN TEH BRAIN!1!1!!!!111 sdurorm durznuts

yep

galaxy clusters that collided like two high-pressure weather fronts and created hurricane-like conditions, tossing galaxies far from their paths and churning shock waves of 100-million-degree gas through intergalactic space.

Don't be surprised if she makes one in the next issues of Uncanny or FF

And btw, yes she can survive that nuke.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yep, and made everyone completely invalid and made her look like she could take on Thanos on her own.

Hell, it should have just been she vs Thanos minus everyone else to begin with.

But then again, she wouldn't look right after beating him then fighting people like Magneto.

Damn teams She just got knocked out... sorry, one-shotted... by Warlock, right after he beat Wonder-Man, Quaser, and a couple others...

Wait, why I'm responding to you, is beyond me...

Yea, I did notice she didn't summon any stars against anyone.

Guess she wasn't working to the best of her abilities.

Of course that would mean she'd kill eveyone there.

yeah, why didnt she? coulda finished it fast....no wait, hmmmm.....probably coz she cant thats why

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
yeah, why didnt she? coulda finished it fast....no wait, hmmmm.....probably coz she cant thats why

what shit logic.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
what shit logic. really it's not! She'd be thowin suns and whiping out galaxies in every fight. On earth she has limits..... period. she would die.

bob of hydra,jesus and captain atom

Originally posted by Hitman911
really it's not! She'd be thowin suns and whiping out galaxies in every fight. On earth she has limits..... period. she would die.

The same can be said for anyone with higher end feats and high power levels and why they don't don't use it in "every fight". It has nothing to to with their actual ability to do it in the first place.

She does have limits, but still, on earth she's alreadys used Gamma radiation to enhance her powers, and the shockwave would mean nothing to her as she controls air as well.

I feel she would survive taking her abilities into account.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Superman would survive. He's flown through
a red sun before. That's roughly equal to several
trillion nuclear bombs exploding simultameously.
And that's only the surface. It gets thousands of
times more intense as one nears the core. Superman
flew through it and got up fighting.

umm no it's not!! The red sun may be bigger but it is cooler than even our own yellow sun. Why do you think the yellow sun powers Kal? Nothing short of a Blue-Sun supernova is equal to SEVERAL trillion 30MT Nukes blowing at one time.
Do you know how much a trillion is dude?!?!?!?

Storm perhaps becoming "one with the Universe"

http://www.thevhive.com/forum/messages.php?webtag=DWAYNEMCDUFFIE&msg=1919.1

It was probably sarcasm, but let's hope for the best, people.

All jokes aside, if these things are true then there is no way she should not be considered herald level. Her high-end feats are too impressive to be overlooked.

Who really considers Storm "anything" on any "level" with regard to any hierarchy except on these boards?

All that has been said repeatedly is that she is amongst the most powerful beings on Earth, and with the new revelations in FF, perhaps the universe??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Who really considers Storm "anything" on any "level" with regard to any hierarchy except on these boards?

All that has been said repeatedly is that she is amongst the most powerful beings on Earth, and with the new revelations in FF, perhaps the universe?? I wonder.....

Originally posted by Galan007
How many Megatons do y'all think this explosion was?

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_solar47.jpg

How about this one...

http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/w4947/html/EESC_W4947_Session24_files/moon_fission.jpg

shifty

is that the creation of the moon?

Originally posted by 2damnloud

Hell, one Storm= like....... a few HYDROGEN bombs.



Really?!?!!? blowup

Originally posted by Hitman911
Really?!?!!? blowup

Yessir

How would Storm survive again? I'm just asking because I remember her being ineffectual against the aftershock of a few nukes that were deflected by Magneto in the Arctic.

Originally posted by LordKaos
How would Storm survive again? I'm just asking because I remember her being ineffectual against the aftershock of a few nukes that were deflected by Magneto in the Arctic.

That was like ONE and Magneto used a MACHINE to do it.

PIS though, since Storm can harness Stars and Solar winds.

you tried to argue him using a machine before, but this is not about how powerful he is (as it wasn't before), it's about how ineffectual she was against the backlash. Why is one PIS and the other not when she only did that star crap once?

That last one seems exaton level

Originally posted by LordKaos
you tried to argue him using a machine before, but this is not about how powerful he is (as it wasn't before), it's about how ineffectual she was against the backlash. Why is one PIS and the other not when she only did that star crap once?

I Don't try to do anything, it's what was in the story.

He himself admitted his limits in that without that machine, all that energy was almost too much.

It was also the only time she wasn't able to stop a nuke.

It would be PIS for her not to be able to do it given all the other instances(which you like to negate) in which she's taken on MUCH more powerful forces of nature than a blast wave.

Like I've said, scientifically, ONE Thunderstorm= the energy of serveral hydrogen bombs.

To reconcile the fact that she's obviously being written down in the majority of her showings, you would say "she doesn't directly control that kind of power" all without giving any proof of your conclusion.

I have you pegged.

Once again missing the point you did try because no one is (was) arguing Magnetos power, the point was her winds were useless againt a storm that was caused by the deflection of nukes. When was the other time her powers stopped a nuke?

Originally posted by LordKaos
Once again missing the point you did try because no one is (was) arguing Magnetos power, the point was her winds were useless againt a storm that was caused by the deflection of nukes. When was the other time her powers stopped a nuke?

I'm not arguing his power either.

You negated her manipulating Stars by saying it was a one time deal. I said her not stopping a blast wave was also a one time deal. Which will we go with??

I will go with PIS since she has done much more massive things than that. Why not aknowledge that?? People fight at their best here.

I don't believe the panel said she even tried to use winds.

Still, none of that matters because even if it were her winds, they have been shown to redirect Sienna Blaze's power which is like a Phoenix blast and can destroy planets.

Originally posted by Mindship
How about this one...

http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/w4947/html/EESC_W4947_Session24_files/moon_fission.jpg

shifty

Now that's a bit tougher.

So.....http://www.forzarobot.com/images/MAZINKAISER%20VS.%20DARK%20GENERAL%20-%2000hr%2045min%2039sec.jpg

Devil Machine! MAZINKAISER!

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I'm not arguing his power either.

You negated her manipulating Stars by saying it was a one time deal. I said her not stopping a blast wave was also a one time deal. Which will we go with??

I will go with PIS since she has done much more massive things than that. Why not aknowledge that?? People fight at their best here.

I don't believe the panel said she even tried to use winds.

Still, none of that matters because even if it were her winds, they have been shown to redirect Sienna Blaze's power which is like a Phoenix blast and can destroy planets.

Me saying her star thing was a one time deal was a response to you calling he inability to deflect the storm PIS.

Done more massive things than what? channel stars or fail to deflect a nuke induced storm?

It was her winds, what else could she use to deflect?

When could a blast of Sienna Blaze destroy planets, I thought it was the recklessness in which she just ripped power from the Earths EM field that threatened the planet whenever she used her power? Like a Phoenix blast?!? Which Phoenix blast would that be?

Storm dies.
If Storm can survive/pwn/laugh at a full blast from a 30 megaton bomb blast using her powers alone then Storm is > 75-80 of DC/Marvel heros and villans.

If thats the case then she should be able to defeat Superman by absorbing his energy ala Silver Surfer. Or just absorbing the Sun itself!

Say that she could deflect the shock wave traveling at 30mi per sec with her winds. Or that she could avoid the debris from tearing her frail body to shreds. How is she to survive the fireball of 50million degrees?!?!? Or will she siimply blow that out like a candle?

Originally posted by Hitman911
Storm dies.
If Storm can survive/pwn/laugh at a full blast from a 30 megaton bomb blast using her powers alone then Storm is > 75-80 of DC/Marvel heros and villans.

If thats the case then she should be able to defeat Superman by absorbing his energy ala Silver Surfer. Or just absorbing the Sun itself!

Say that she could deflect the shock wave traveling at 30mi per sec with her winds. Or that she could avoid the debris from tearing her frail body to shreds. How is she to survive the fireball of 50million degrees?!?!? Or will she siimply blow that out like a candle?

No she'll drop the temp 1,000,000,000,000,000 degrees below absolute zero and flash freeze the universe.
Oh I'm sorry where was my head I meant to say flash freeze the omniverse, shattering it with lightning and then absorbing all the kinetic energy from the shattering to break through the fourth wall to take her revenge on all who doubted her power as Creatrix of all the was, is and will ever be.

Originally posted by Hitman911
Storm dies.
If Storm can survive/pwn/laugh at a full blast from a 30 megaton bomb blast using her powers alone then Storm is > 75-80 of DC/Marvel heros and villans.

If thats the case then she should be able to defeat Superman by absorbing his energy ala Silver Surfer. Or just absorbing the Sun itself!

Say that she could deflect the shock wave traveling at 30mi per sec with her winds. Or that she could avoid the debris from tearing her frail body to shreds. How is she to survive the fireball of 50million degrees?!?!? Or will she siimply blow that out like a candle?

First two statements are a fallacies.

Argue correctly.

It's all but stated as she is one of the most powerful beings on Marvel Earth. Whether you can comprehend that or not is inconsequential.

The nuke would most likely enhance her mutant powers.

Originally posted by LordKaos
No she'll drop the temp 1,000,000,000,000,000 degrees below absolute zero and flash freeze the universe.
Oh I'm sorry where was my head I meant to say flash freeze the omniverse, shattering it with lightning and then absorbing all the kinetic energy from the shattering to break through the fourth wall to take her revenge on all who doubted her power as Creatrix of all the was, is and will ever be.

No, she'd just block it or contain it.

@ you thinkin all her powers are lgihtning and temp.

So dense.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
First two statements are a fallacies.

Argue correctly.

It's all but stated as she is one of the most powerful beings on Marvel Earth. Whether you can comprehend that or not is inconsequential.

The nuke would most likely enhance her mutant powers.
A lot of people are one of the most powerful on marvel earth. She don't get a trophy for that!! Why is her being able to defeat Kal by absorbing the sun a fallacy? Is it that it's so absurd you realize it's improbable?

Originally posted by Hitman911
A lot of people are one of the most powerful on marvel earth. She don't get a trophy for that!! Why is her being able to defeat Kal by absorbing the sun a fallacy? Is it that it's so absurd you realize it's improbable?

"One of the most". "THE MOST" sets that apart as amongst the most powerful.

No, your first two statements are based on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent

And why would she absorb the sun which is intrical to life on this planet to kill one mere man!?!?!?!

A Nuclear explosion is not a natural thing therefore she would never have time to "feel" in before it wipes her out.

Originally posted by LordKaos
Me saying her star thing was a one time deal was a response to you calling he inability to deflect the storm PIS.

Done more massive things than what? channel stars or fail to deflect a nuke induced storm?

It was her winds, what else could she use to deflect?

When could a blast of Sienna Blaze destroy planets, I thought it was the recklessness in which she just ripped power from the Earths EM field that threatened the planet whenever she used her power? Like a Phoenix blast?!? Which Phoenix blast would that be?
Why the Ultra Earth Vaporizing Blast!! Silly

Originally posted by Hitman911
BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Thirty Mega-ton Warhead explodes.
Who is the weakest that could survive this?!?!?!?
Oh yeah, that pic is what a 10 megaton warhead whould do. Logan?!?!?

Originally posted by 2damnloud


The nuke would most likely enhance her(Storm) mutant powers.

laugh if that makes you feel better.ermmhappy

Storm is a character who can absorb millions upon millions of SUNS into her body.

She can use a gamma gun to enhace her powers.

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Whats going to harm her?? The blast wave??

She controls WEATHER. She flies at/creates winds that are hundreds upon hundreds of mph and is unaffected because she controls wind/air which is a derivative or pressure differentials.

Nothing about the nuke would harm her.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
laugh if that makes you feel better.ermmhappy

Storm is a character who can absorb millions upon millions of SUNS into her body.

She can use a gamma gun to enhace her powers.

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1xz3.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1jr0.jpg
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Whats going to harm her?? The blast wave??

She controls WEATHER. She flies at hundreds of mph and is unaffected because she controls wind/air which is a derivative or pressure differentials.

Nothing about the nuke would harm her.

Can I have some of what you are drinking? That is some guuuuud shit. Cuz you are obsviouly wasted.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Can I have some of what you are drinking? That is some guuuuud shit. Cuz you are obsviouly wasted.

@ this yutz.

go finished getting pwned with your shit logic, whilst I have SCANS to back up what I say.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I Don't try to do anything, it's what was in the story.

He himself admitted his limits in that without that machine, all that energy was almost too much.

It was also the only time she wasn't able to stop a nuke.

It would be PIS for her not to be able to do it given all the other instances(which you like to negate) in which she's taken on MUCH more powerful forces of nature than a blast wave.

Like I've said, scientifically, ONE Thunderstorm= the energy of serveral hydrogen bombs.

To reconcile the fact that she's obviously being written down in the majority of her showings, you would say "she doesn't directly control that kind of power" all without giving any proof of your conclusion.

I have you pegged.

Well, I can see your point about a thunderstorm having the energy of a thermonuclear detonation. I see where you are coming from.

The problem is that you are talking about potential energy ....for instance, a human being (one human) if his mass was converted into energy could power an average sized city (never did say how large an 'average sized city' was, but one can assume it is not exactly one Bangladeshi village) for a while. A piece of toast has more energy than a car moving at 30mph.

Anyways, potential energy is different from actual energy.

The splitting of an atom (for fission), or the fusion of atoms (fusion) detonations are incredulously powerful.

Take Hurricane Katrina ....that hurricane had more than enough energy than many many Hiroshima sized explosions, and you saw what it did to N.O. Ravaged that city big time.

However, even with that said, imagine if i had set off 4 Hiroshima size fission devices (rather small and simple 'gun' atomic weapons that are quite weak compared to the thermonuclear types available today). The amount of damage wrought on NO would be stupendous, even though Katrina packed a greater energy (potential and dynamic) than the atomics. The released yield (which is the crucial thing) from the atomics would simply reduce the city to rubble for the most part.... (it is all about released yield ....for instance, a small shaped HEAT charge will mess up a tank when a simple H-E charge 5 times its size will not penetrate the armor).

It is also the reason why the US Military was pushing for small thermonuclear bombs to be used as ways of bombing deeply buried sites (e.g. the North Korean and Iranian bunkers that are buried deep within the earth in the case of the Iranians, or in mountains for the NKs, that are impervious to non-nuclear penetrators). A small nuke would cause so much energy in that area that the level of overpressure would simply cause the entire complex to collapse on itself.

On the other hand, you could have a thousand Katrina size hurricanes pound the mountains above the North Korean complex, and the N.Ks in the bases underneath the mountains would not feel a thing. They wouldn't even know hurricanes were above them. Yet, on PAPER, the Hurricanes pack more energy than the nuclear bunker-buster (the project was 'reportedly' cancelled last year, but I find that hard to believe because the Us military would get rid of the only effective weapon they have to reach bunkers buried in mountain complexes, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Israelis also have something similar).

Anyways, the potential and dynamic energies in a lot of natural phenomena can be astounding. For instance many tornados above F1 (the old Fujita scale ....I'm not yet conversant with the new scale) have numbers that are above a good many thermonuclear weapons.

However, have that tornado go through Oklahoma city and see what happens (if it is an F5 like the one that went through OK in 1999, and it goes through OKC instead of through the small towns and settlements, it would cause all the glass to shatter, would cause severe damage to several skyscrapers, and overall set back the budget of the State of Oklahoma, and the Federal Government, sveeral billions when it comes to rebuilding). And an F5 would have more potential and dynamic enerugy than many thermonuclear devices (i am talking real fusion devices and not rudimentary gun-type fission devices like the Hiroshima bomb)

Thus, it would do damage.

Now, what would happen if i put ONE 10 Kiloton device in OKC, and have it detonate a thousand feet in the air?

OKC would be totally finished!

Its yield may (looking at only numbers) be 'less' than that of a F-5 tornado, but its effect (which is the important thing) would be many times greater. Great enough that (unlike the Tornado) there would be nothing for the OK State and the Fed to rebuild.

Hulk survives it.
Surfer too.

Originally posted by spetznaz
Well, I can see your point about a thunderstorm having the energy of a thermonuclear detonation. I see where you are coming from.

The problem is that you are talking about potential energy ....for instance, a human being (one human) if his mass was converted into energy could power an average sized city (never did say how large an 'average sized city' was, but one can assume it is not exactly one Bangladeshi village) for a while. A piece of toast has more energy than a car moving at 30mph.

Anyways, potential energy is different from actual energy.

The splitting of an atom (for fission), or the fusion of atoms (fusion) detonations are incredulously powerful.

Take Hurricane Katrina ....that hurricane had more than enough energy than many many Hiroshima sized explosions, and you saw what it did to N.O. Ravaged that city big time.

However, even with that said, imagine if i had set off 4 Hiroshima size fission devices (rather small and simple 'gun' atomic weapons that are quite weak compared to the thermonuclear types available today). The amount of damage wrought on NO would be stupendous, even though Katrina packed a greater energy (potential and dynamic) than the atomics. The released yield (which is the crucial thing) from the atomics would simply reduce the city to rubble for the most part.... (it is all about released yield ....for instance, a small shaped HEAT charge will mess up a tank when a simple H-E charge 5 times its size will not penetrate the armor).

It is also the reason why the US Military was pushing for small thermonuclear bombs to be used as ways of bombing deeply buried sites (e.g. the North Korean and Iranian bunkers that are buried deep within the earth in the case of the Iranians, or in mountains for the NKs, that are impervious to non-nuclear penetrators). A small nuke would cause so much energy in that area that the level of overpressure would simply cause the entire complex to collapse on itself.

On the other hand, you could have a thousand Katrina size hurricanes pound the mountains above the North Korean complex, and the N.Ks in the bases underneath the mountains would not feel a thing. They wouldn't even know hurricanes were above them. Yet, on PAPER, the Hurricanes pack more energy than the nuclear bunker-buster (the project was 'reportedly' cancelled last year, but I find that hard to believe because the Us military would get rid of the only effective weapon they have to reach bunkers buried in mountain complexes, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Israelis also have something similar).

Anyways, the potential and dynamic energies in a lot of natural phenomena can be astounding. For instance many tornados above F1 (the old Fujita scale ....I'm not yet conversant with the new scale) have numbers that are above a good many thermonuclear weapons.

However, have that tornado go through Oklahoma city and see what happens (if it is an F5 like the one that went through OK in 1999, and it goes through OKC instead of through the small towns and settlements, it would cause all the glass to shatter, would cause severe damage to several skyscrapers, and overall set back the budget of the State of Oklahoma, and the Federal Government, sveeral billions when it comes to rebuilding). And an F5 would have more potential and dynamic enerugy than many thermonuclear devices (i am talking real fusion devices and not rudimentary gun-type fission devices like the Hiroshima bomb)

Thus, it would do damage.

Now, what would happen if i put ONE 10 Kiloton device in OKC, and have it detonate a thousand feet in the air?

OKC would be totally finished!

Its yield may (looking at only numbers) be 'less' than that of a F-5 tornado, but its effect (which is the important thing) would be many times greater. Great enough that (unlike the Tornado) there would be nothing for the OK State and the Fed to rebuild.

Thanx for your reply but Storm doesn't just manipulate the "yield". she creates the Storm and manipulates the yeild using only her mind.

So far I've read two "scientific" hypothesesis about how much power it would take for Storm to do that and they both corrobrate that t would take an ridiculos amount of power.

She doesn't have magical plot device or tech doing all the work. She does it through some sort of specialize telekensis that is adapted to, and is a specialize mutation that deals with kenetic energy(temperature), electromagnetism/electrons, and water and whatever else it takes to make a "storm" or any other weather effect or that "feeds" the weather and the biospshere of whatever planet she's on, in space or whatever. She can even channel the potential energy of the storm through her body.

My thing is, with that same "mind" that she uses t do all that stuff, that nuke and magneto Storm in the magneto arc should be nothing, especially when overpressure that causes the blast wave is so very closely related to weather phenomena.

And she also summoned millions of suns once and channeld them through her body.

I also think there's is an instance where she chanelled the potential energy of a Storm into herself, and then Polaris causing her to shoot down in the 4,000 miles of earth's Crust.

I also don't see any logical reason why she couldn't create her own nuclear fusion/fission.

how about someone like Cloak or Abyss that could draw the force of the blast into the dark force demention

i know wolverine has allready actuallly survived a nucular blast ... see the venom series.

i have great faith in silver surfer

how about sunfire?

Sentrey could do it i mean he has the obssestion with putting things in suns to begin with?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Thanx for your reply but Storm doesn't just manipulate the "yield". she creates the Storm and manipulates the yeild using only her mind.

So far I've read two "scientific" hypothesesis about how much power it would take for Storm to do that and they both corrobrate that t would take an ridiculos amount of power.

She doesn't have magical plot device or tech doing all the work. She does it through some sort of specialize telekensis that is adapted to, and is a specialize mutation that deals with kenetic energy(temperature), electromagnetism/electrons, and water and whatever else it takes to make a "storm" or any other weather effect or that "feeds" the weather and the biospshere of whatever planet she's on, in space or whatever. She can even channel the potential energy of the storm through her body.

My thing is, with that same "mind" that she uses t do all that stuff, that nuke and magneto Storm in the magneto arc should be nothing, especially when overpressure that causes the blast wave is so very closely related to weather phenomena.

And she also summoned millions of suns once and channeld them through her body.

I also think there's is an instance where she chanelled the potential energy of a Storm into herself, and then Polaris causing her to shoot down in the 4,000 miles of earth's Crust.

I also don't see any logical reason why she couldn't create her own nuclear fusion/fission. I understand her "potential" output. What I'm saying that never has she shown on panel to deflect a city destroying blast that's all. If that's the case then she should be able to stop Cyclops's optic blast from ten feet away. And the speed and power of a 30 megaton blast is >>>>>>>>>>Optic blast which would ko/kill Storm if it connected.

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As far as thhe Magneto where she couldn't block the blast wave.

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She's also dipicted as being cold when she's immune to the elements.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
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As far as thhe Magneto where she couldn't block the blast wave.

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She's also dipicted as being cold when she's immune to the elements. This just proves that Storm is too WEAK to solo Blaze herself!!

Originally posted by Hitman911
This just proves that Storm is too WEAK to solo Blaze herself!!

As can be said about any powerful character on a super hero team

But of course, you don't like Storm so........yeah..........she's too "weak".

Such bullshit, hence why I'm so arrogant.

Anyone's who's bias is completely beneath me.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
As can be said about any powerful character on a super hero team

But of course, you don't like Storm so........yeah..........she's too "weak".

Such bullshit, hence why I'm so arrogant.

Anyone's who's bias is completely beneath me. Whether I like Storm or not is irrelevant. The facts are: She though very powerful is still a team player not yet ready for the big leagues!!! FACT

Originally posted by Hitman911
Whether I like Storm or not is irrelevant. The facts are: She though very powerful is still a team player not yet ready for the big leagues!!! FACT

She is the big league.

One of the most powerful beings on earth.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She is the big league.

One of the most powerful beings on earth. Even so,she has never been called upon or has demonstrated that type of power to neutralize/dissipate/absorb/own a 30 megaton blast with only 5 seconds prep. The Blast would kill her, the heat would kill her, the debris would kill her, she wouldn't be able to breath as all nearby oxygen is burned away. I don't care how many galaxies she can absorb On earth the dies.

Originally posted by Hitman911
Even so,she has never been called upon or has demonstrated that type of power to neutralize/dissipate/absorb/own a 30 megaton blast with only 5 seconds prep. The Blast would kill her, the heat would kill her, the debris would kill her, she wouldn't be able to breath as all nearby oxygen is burned away. I don't care how many galaxies she can absorb On earth the dies.

Argument from Ignorance fallacy.

Plus on EARTH she has absorbed an entire Storm by converting it to electrical energy and dispersing it across a continent.

One Storm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that 30 megaton Nuke.

More than likely anything that could survive the impact would suffer core meltdown. Most likely to survive if his magic shield is up would be that Red Head...Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Hitman911
BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Thirty Mega-ton Warhead explodes.
Who is the weakest that could survive this?!?!?!?
Oh yeah, that pic is what a 10 megaton warhead whould do.

Mr. Immortal.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She is the big league.

One of the most powerful beings on earth.

Originally posted by 2damnloud


One Storm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that 30 megaton Nuke. Maybe so but this is a different type of energy. like instant devastation energy!! Storm Dies...