Archimonde, Ayane, Hayabusa Vs. Raziel, Kratos, Dante

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C. C. Cowgirl
Archimonde
Ayane
Ryu Hayabusa

Vs.

Raziel
Kratos
Dante



Oh yeah! Another thread by me raver

Darth Extecute
Could be a match worthy of discussion..

If Ayane and Hayabusa was in the second team, together with the other three..

I'm sorry for doing this to your thread, but-

Total an-ni-hi-la-tion

C. C. Cowgirl
Really? ermm

I know Archimonde is Good, but Raziel sure is a reputated guy around here big grin So is Dante wink

I looked Kratos up and he has some effective abilities as well. I considered this would be quite the even battle yes

Remindme
From what I've seen of Archimonde he's easily the most powerful here.

Team 1 wins in a warpstomp

Darth Extecute
It could have been, if you put someone else from Warcraft in Archimonde's place.. For example, you could have put Grom Hellscream, or maybe Thrall.. Sylvanas or Tyrande would work, or maybe I can push it and say that even Illidan would make this an even battle..

But Archimonde is too powerful..

C. C. Cowgirl
Warpstomp? stick out tongue

C. C. Cowgirl
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
It could have been, if you put someone else from Warcraft in Archimonde's place.. For example, you could have put Grom Hellscream, or maybe Thrall.. Sylvanas or Tyrande would work, or maybe I can push it and say that even Illidan would make this an even battle..

But Archimonde is too powerful..

What makes you think this? Because Raziel seem quite the unstoppable factor in most fights and since Archimonde is a demon and Dante is specialised in demons, he could probably put up a fight smile

As for Hayabusa, I am sure that Kratos could somehow turn him into stone or something big grin

Remindme
Yeppers ^-^ my word, you guys have curbstomp, and i'm weird so i had to go make something up stick out tongue

C. C. Cowgirl
I like it big grin

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
What makes you think this? Because Raziel seem quite the unstoppable factor in most fights and since Archimonde is a demon and Dante is specialised in demons, he could probably put up a fight smile

As for Hayabusa, I am sure that Kratos could somehow turn him into stone or something big grin

Archimonde would in many cases be considered a God, thanks to his powers, but he is in fact not even a Demi-God..


Let me explain it, in a way that makes it sound as little nasty as possible..

As the battle beginns, Archimonde takes the size of a skyscrape.. Then he extends his two arms and clenches his fists.. He at that point crumble both Raziel and Dante, who is considered the largest threat to the fight.. Afterwards, he sends a homing-deviced red ray, that turns Kratos inside out..


Ryu and Ayane wont even reach the opposite team before they are defeated..

C. C. Cowgirl
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Last time I involve Warcraft characters in my fights roll eyes (sarcastic)

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
shock

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Last time I involve Warcraft characters in my fights roll eyes (sarcastic)

Oh, do continue with it.. Just make sure your not making it uneven.. If your fighter has ever said things like-

"Tremble mortals, and despair, doom has come to this world."

"From this seal shall arise the doom of men"

"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair"

And referred to themselves, it's a sign that they are stupidly powerful stick out tongue

C. C. Cowgirl
mhm You will see that there will be people picking Team 2's side evil face

Remindme
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
I like it big grin Heh, yay ^-^ *gives cookie*

C. C. Cowgirl
lion

Charlotte DeBel
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
mhm You will see that there will be people picking Team 2's side evil face

That's not going to be a curbstomp, darling. I don't remember Illidan vs Archimond record, and Dante at his best seems to be at least Illidan's equal. High demonic lord, a being of Archimond's level...though with little less flashy demonic powers.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Dante's high demonic form (Super Sparda form) from DMC2 in action

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So, not a curbstomp. And Raziel can switch between spectral& material realms at will. Archimond won't deal with him so easy.

Charlotte DeBel
As for skyscraper sized demons...have to search for that particular cutscene from DMC2. But there was something... at least, even young Dante managed to parry hits, thunderclaps and stuff from Beowulf, a legitimate class 100 monster. Dante's combat teleportation ability also gives him an advantage over huge opponents (just teleport to its neck and strike). He's also the only true flier in team 2, though Raziel's crippled wings and Air Reaver allow him...to simply hover, not to fly like Dante does).

C. C. Cowgirl
woot

Go, Team 2 happy

Remindme
Wasn't Archimonde create or made what he was by the guy who founded demonology? by....looking it up.... Sargeras, The fallen Titan.

So i doubt there many characters in existance that can beat him....but like i said thats my two cents and nothing more

Darth Extecute
This demon would have Illidan crawling on his knees, begging for mercy the moment he hears the name "Archimonde"

We're talking about a demon with immense powers, that on his own crumbled the city Dalaran without breaking a sweat.. The man who is physicaly unharmable.. The man who can have an individual discussion with soldiers in a large army, all at once by using his mind alone.. The very same demon that simply closed his fist and crushed a full-grown dragon.. The same guy who took size enough ((Taller than a skyscraper)) to grab a titan by the neck..

He is the demon that with a handful of men fought a war against the entire human, night-elf and orcish race.. That includes fighting the son of Elune, Cenarius, Thrall, Malfurion and many more horribly powerful heroes..

Burning thought
hmm very difficult...

Archimonde cannot become skyscraper sized so easily, the story goes is that Archimonde was gaining energy from the world tree which is why in the game cutscene he becomes enormous and the reason he could destroy Dalaren so easily is according to that it was built upon powerful leylines that Archimonde had great power over

however he has incredible endurance, and as Darth said can blast the body of enemies sending them inside out..however...Raziel can become spectoral at will and still has the power of the reaver...Archimonde could be stopped also eventually by Dante using Quicksilver, the time will slow down so Archimonde would be very slow and Dante could use his various powers and abilities

Hayabusa and Ayane will simply be Raziel food...

Kratos, well this depends, God kratos would be formidable, normal kratos with Titan powers would also be fairly formidable, what items does he get?

Darth Extecute
Archimonde can shift size without larger problems.. He share this power with Kil'Jaeden.. And about Raziel, he can simply open up by turning the man inside out.. Sure, he might not die, but he'll have no physical body to fight with.. As for the time spell, what point would there be? What can Dante possibly do to harm him?

Burning thought
Dante has some pretty powerful attacks, is his full sparda form available? thats incredibly damaging, and Raziel being turned inside out would simply make him spectoral, he would only have to swallow souls to change back..OR Raziel can go invisible which may be able to fool Archimonde, although who knows. Archimondes power is great, but he could not solo these 3 for sure, Dante would be the strongest element here i think. Raziel has invulerability, but the likelyness he will be able to get close enough to Archimonde to deal any soul damage is unlikely, unless he reforms with a soul right on top of the guy

Darth Extecute
Archimonde has vast telepathical and telekentical powers.. He'd sense Raziel approaching and simply back away.. He could keep a distance and fight them of that way.. With his height, they wont be able to chase him, and he can simply launch projectiles at them, and summon armies to fight them in his place..

Archimonde destroyed Dalaran without breaking a sweat, as I said earlier.. That's proof of horribly large quantities of magical powers.. He also crushed a dragon with telekenetical powers, by simply closing his fists and the dragon was nothing but pieces.. He didn't even touch it, nor projectile anything.. It was a simple grasp with his hand.. Even if Dante is protected against demon magic, that isn't considered demon magic.. It's simple.. magic.. arcane, physical and mind magic in a beautiful mix..

Charlotte DeBel
I've posted some fo Super Sparda form in action *a video from RT*. Dante's high demonic lord, actually the strongest demon in his universe and in his high demonic form (Super Sparda form) he's pretty much invulnerable (not even boss characters can harm him in that form).

Burning thought
i agree now, Raziel wont be able to sneak up on him in shroud, but the spectoral realm would be invsible to Archimonde for sure, he could reform behind him, then continue to fight. Any armies Archimonde summons will further empower raziel ofcourse.

yes but it took him a lot of prep to destroy Dalaren like that, not to menstion he wont have that in this battle and yes destroying that dragon is a feet of great power, i cant see Kratos or Dante getting past a feet of that magnitude

also DeBel that is gameplay, i think this debate is on the actually characters for canon

Darth Extecute
Archimonde is considered being unharmable at all time, by all magic and physical attacks.. Blizzard gave him divine armor, which basicly reduces his damage taken by all attacks by 95-99%

He is also self-regenerating.. He can go from almost no health to 100% healed in the matter of minutes, if not even within the minute..

Not even Malorne, Elune's lover could do any harm to him, and he's the strongest being in the warcraft universe that isn't a God or a titan..

The only known way to kill Archimonde was by force of nature, and since Malorne is the most powerful druid that isn't God nor Titan in the history of Warcraft, and he couldnt inflict damage on Archimonde, I'd say that these three are pretty screwed..

Burning thought
can you post me the link please to this information, divine armour sounds like the gameplay term, also another note is that hes never had his soul attacked before, its bound to hurt him like any other since soul devouring is not magic.

Darth Extecute
Divine armour is the gameplay term.. It's seen in the final RoC level.. So what?

And of course it's magical.. It's not a natural thing.. That makes it magical.. His enchanted blade.. Enchanting meaning magicaly gifted.. And I'm guessing that he'd first of all have to penetrate the skin to reach the actual soul.. Have fun trying to do that without Archimonde noticing..

Remindme
Originally posted by Burning thought
can you post me the link please to this information, divine armour sounds like the gameplay term, also another note is that hes never had his soul attacked before, its bound to hurt him like any other since soul devouring is not magic.

Originally From WoW Wiki
One of the most powerful being ever to walk the world of Azeroth. His powers are further magnified and enhanced when Sargeras turned him into a warlock.

He is shown to have the following abilities:

Spells of devastating potency. (Single handled destruction of Dalaran)

Vast telepathic powers. (Shown when he communed with ALL the Nathezim and eredar on the battlefield at War of the Ancient to deal with the oncoming dragons)

Vast telekinetic powers. (Able to kill a full grown dragon with a single act of grasping hand)

Vast strategic mind. (Commanded the Legion to victory over countless worlds)

Certain portion of omniscient as shown when he knew what was the source of power for Azeroth and by what name to call it. (Referring to Nordrassil, the World Tree)

Near invulnerability to attacks (represented by divine armor in Warcraft III and Malorne's inability to hurt Archimonde despite being the most powerful of the demigod in War of the Ancients).


The Divine armor thing is merely to represent the magical force to sheilds his body, much like the mana shield power.

Now i'm gonig for dinner, be a good boy now

Burning thought
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Divine armour is the gameplay term.. It's seen in the final RoC level.. So what?

And of course it's magical.. It's not a natural thing.. That makes it magical.. His enchanted blade.. Enchanting meaning magicaly gifted.. And I'm guessing that he'd first of all have to penetrate the skin to reach the actual soul.. Have fun trying to do that without Archimonde noticing..


if its from gameplay then its stats are suspect since numbers and such mean nothing, Divine armor can only be harmed by Chaos attacks, which makes no sense since i wouldnt class the spirits of the earth as Chaos..

it does not have to be magical...it could simply be a state of being, an ability that is non-magical, magic is like a force by itself

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Burning thought
if its from gameplay then its stats are suspect since numbers and such mean nothing, Divine armor can only be harmed by Chaos attacks, which makes no sense since i wouldnt class the spirits of the earth as Chaos..

it does not have to be magical...it could simply be a state of being, an ability that is non-magical, magic is like a force by itself

Did you see any chaos heroes in the final level? Blizzard thought about that, because he isn't harmable.. He is supposed to be as good as invournable, but I dont think they wanted to make an entirely new armortype just for that.. Same as they didn't make a new skin for Illidan until TFT..

There's more to a story than the eye meets, and especially in games like Warcraft..

In-game, Archimonde only had 4 spells.. That's not the true Archimonde..

The Archimonde spoken of in lore could battle armies, demi-Gods and titans without dying.. They had to imprison him in the twisting nether, because he wouldn't die..

By taking his soul doesn't mean he dies.. If he even can drain his soul.. We dont even know if Archimonde has a soul.. There are creatures in the Warcraft universe that doesnt..

Csdabest
O.O...Sounds like Marvel has been creating characters for these peoples universes.

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Csdabest
O.O...Sounds like Marvel has been creating characters for these peoples universes.

No stick out tongue You wont see many planet busting characters in Warcraft.. I'm sure that a number of them could if they wanted to, but they never have.. These people prefere conquering the world, instead of destroying it..

Creshosk
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
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Last time I involve Warcraft characters in my fights roll eyes (sarcastic) I wouldn't worry about the blizzard fanboys..

http://www.dtguilds.com/images/archimonde.jpg

Unkillable my ass... None of those whom took Archimonde down was a god...

shin_gear
I'm a Blizzard fanboy...sad

Charlotte DeBel
Originally posted by shin_gear
I'm a Blizzard fanboy...sad

A reasonable one. I think Assasin from Diablo 2 is sexy with nice legs and stuff, but that doesn't makes me a Blizzard fangirl.

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Creshosk
I wouldn't worry about the blizzard fanboys..

Unkillable my ass... None of those whom took Archimonde down was a god...

This is why I didn't take you serious in the prime evil thread either..

You dont know much about the things you discuss about..

This is words by blizzard:



Archimonde is defeated by plot.. You doesn't actually battle him to the end and kill him..

After a while in the battle, Archimonde will stop battleing ((By plot)) and return to the world-tree.. Thereafter a powerful priestess will buff you with a blessing of the Gods, and you finish the fight plot-wise, like he would have died in Lore.. While trying to corrupt the world-tree..

In Warcraft 3, in-game he is a lot better than he appears in WoW.. He could simply turn heroes that would crush those WoW players, inside out with a lift of a finger.. Since there's no limitations set to the actual battle, I'm going from the idea that he is at his prime..

Creshosk
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
blahblah What do I care fanboy?

He's pretty much killed, so as I said before unkillable my ass.

Burning thought
Originally posted by Creshosk
What do I care fanboy?

He's pretty much killed, so as I said before unkillable my ass.

you take WoW events seriously and canon? especially in-game?....riigghhttt..

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Creshosk
What do I care fanboy?

He's pretty much killed, so as I said before unkillable my ass.

If you dont want to face fact, then that's fine with me.. He's killed by plot, and that's a fact..


Besides.. I'd love to see Dante take the people that "slayed" Archimonde in that video down..

Burning thought
laughing careful may need to explain what a fact is

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Burning thought
laughing careful may need to explain what a fact is

I can have my friend record the defeat..

You'll see that he stops fighting and turns to the world-tree.. Then you'll also see how a priestess buffs you with powers of the Gods, and grants you total invournability and massive strength.. Then you'll strike him in the back, and have him defeated as he grasps the world-tree..

I'd say that is pretty plot based..

Creshosk
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
If you dont want to face fact, then that's fine with me.. He's killed by plot, and that's a fact..


Besides.. I'd love to see Dante take the people that "slayed" Archimonde in that video down.. I'm not the one dodging reality fanboy.

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm not the one dodging reality fanboy.

Since when did video-games become reality?

Creshosk
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
I can have my friend record the defeat..

You'll see that he stops fighting and turns to the world-tree.. Then you'll also see how a priestess buffs you with powers of the Gods, and grants you total invournability and massive strength.. Then you'll strike him in the back, and have him defeated as he grasps the world-tree..

I'd say that is pretty plot based.. I'd say he's pretty killed, so as I said fanboy, unkillable my ass.

Creshosk
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Since when did video-games become reality? Are you really this dense?

The reality of the situation is that he's killed. Plotwise is what you mentioned we work off of in the three evils thread.

Changing what you say? How very fanboyish of you fanboy.

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Creshosk
Are you really this dense?

The reality of the situation is that he's killed. Plotwise is what you mentioned we work off of in the three evils thread.

Changing what you say? How very fanboyish of you fanboy.

Quote where I said that we work by plot.. Provide me the quote where I have said that a plot-defeat is an actual defeat in this matter of discussion, and I wont bother this thread again..

Charlotte DeBel
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=464182&pagenumber=4

By the way, as I've promiced. Dante PWNS skyscraper-sized demon.

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=464182&pagenumber=4

By the way, as I've promiced. Dante PWNS skyscraper-sized demon.

An impressive video.. I've seen a battle with Dante, fighting some speed-demon in the anime.. He's a cool guy..

However, nevertheless, a simple grasp by Archimonde and Dante winds up crumbled.. Which is why I think this would be such an easy battle.. The attacks that the demon in that video does are avoidable.. Archimonde's attacks are not, as he's using vast telekinetical powers..

Burning thought
yeh but that thing is nothing worthy of a demon really, its a ridiculous thing nothing on archimonde

shin_gear
Um, can we stop the fanboycalling before I report this...

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Burning thought
yeh but that thing is nothing worthy of a demon really, its a ridiculous thing nothing on archimonde

Yeah.. Dante's a great guy and a really powerful character, but once again is he put into a fight that he cannot win..

Archimonde crushed a full-grown dragon, that's probably twice the size of that demon in the matter of a second or two, by simply grapsing his hand..

Originally posted by shin_gear
Um, can we stop the fanboycalling before I report this...

The thought have crossed my mind.. I think the guy has some personal issue with me, and in all honesty it is kind of offensive to be called a fan-boy just because I provide strong facts.. ermm

Creshosk
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Yeah.. Dante's a great guy and a really powerful character, but once again is he put into a fight that he cannot win..

Archimonde crushed a full-grown dragon, that's probably twice the size of that demon in the matter of a second or two, by simply grapsing his hand..



The thought have crossed my mind.. I think the guy has some personal issue with me, and in all honesty it is kind of offensive to be called a fan-boy just because I provide strong facts.. ermm You don't provide storng facts fanboy, you provide fanboyism.

"They said he's unkillable so he's unkillable..."

Except he's killed

"That was a plot death."

Well yeah, plot is how we know what happened and what endings in games actually occur. I can pull up a video clip of jigglypuff beating up Cell in a game, does that mean that jigglypuff can beat Cell?

How about ganondorf? I can play a jigglypuff in smash bros and beat ganondorf... Does that mean that Jigglypuff beats ganondorf?

No, we go off of what's described in plot... remember the Sin war book that was mentioned? I'm sorry, that's a book so its all plot.

So saying that "plot doesn't count" is the dodging of a fanboy and nothing more. Go ahead and reptort me, the thread will get closed. mwahaha Then there will be less rampant blizzard fanboyism oozing out of this place.

"Strong facts" roll eyes (sarcastic)

Creshosk
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
An impressive video.. I've seen a battle with Dante, fighting some speed-demon in the anime.. He's a cool guy..

However, nevertheless, a simple grasp by Archimonde and Dante winds up crumbled.. Which is why I think this would be such an easy battle.. The attacks that the demon in that video does are avoidable.. Archimonde's attacks are not, as he's using vast telekinetical powers.. Oh I'm sorry the crumpling people by grabing them is just plot. He never "crumbles" a person in the game, so its obviously plot.

Burning thought
plot and canon story is what debating is about, were not debating gameplay are we because gameplay is all stats and numbers..back to the example of...if i made a private server of WoW and made my arhcimonde have 10 times the hitpoints and dmg and players half the health, that doesnt mean that arhciomonde is the real one, its just gameplay one..canonwise..Archimonde is beaten by the power of the earthern magic Malfurion called, a bunch of wimply Gnomes and humans didnt take him out, neither did a bunch of Horde Orcs and Tauren which is only gameplay

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Creshosk
You don't provide storng facts fanboy, you provide fanboyism.

"They said he's unkillable so he's unkillable..."

Except he's killed

"That was a plot death."

Well yeah, plot is how we know what happened and what endings in games actually occur. I can pull up a video clip of jigglypuff beating up Cell in a game, does that mean that jigglypuff can beat Cell?

How about ganondorf? I can play a jigglypuff in smash bros and beat ganondorf... Does that mean that Jigglypuff beats ganondorf?

No, we go off of what's described in plot... remember the Sin war book that was mentioned? I'm sorry, that's a book so its all plot.

So saying that "plot doesn't count" is the dodging of a fanboy and nothing more. Go ahead and reptort me, the thread will get closed. mwahaha Then there will be less rampant blizzard fanboyism oozing out of this place.

"Strong facts" roll eyes (sarcastic)


Warning: RoC SPOILER

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Unless Dante or the others can repeat this event, there's no known way to defeat him.. It required an immense amount of nature magic to even have Archimonde react to pain and attacks..

Not even Malorne could get Archimonde to give in, and his powers of nature exceeds any of these characters..

The WoW defeat that you talk about.. The people that "killed" him, was enchanted with divine powers.. They were INVOURNABLE.. They had godly strength, and he wasn't even turned in their direction when they "killed" him..

Also, if you decide to close your eyes with the fact that he was killed because he was meant to die ((Caverns of Time.. Save the past.. Look it up.. )) Put yourself and these characters in his position.. Do you think that Dante could beat 25 horribly strong characters that has been seen "kill" the one that can not die..

Your the one with some kind of fixed idea that blizzard characters aren't powerful..


But if you are so certain that they can kill him.. Tell me how..

Creshosk
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Warning: RoC SPOILER

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Unless Dante or the others can repeat this event, there's no known way to defeat him.. It required an immense amount of nature magic to even have Archimonde react to pain and attacks..

Not even Malorne could get Archimonde to give in, and his powers of nature exceeds any of these characters..

The WoW defeat that you talk about.. The people that "killed" him, was enchanted with divine powers.. They were INVOURNABLE.. They had godly strength, and he wasn't even turned in their direction when they "killed" him..

Also, if you decide to close your eyes with the fact that he was killed because he was meant to die ((Caverns of Time.. Save the past.. Look it up.. )) Put yourself and these characters in his position.. Do you think that Dante could beat 25 horribly strong characters that has been seen "kill" the one that can not die..

Your the one with some kind of fixed idea that blizzard characters aren't powerful..


But if you are so certain that they can kill him.. Tell me how.. No, you're the fanboy that seems to think that Blizzard characters are more powerful than anything else out there.

Nothing can possibly messure up to your precious Blizzasrd characters... Obviously Gods can't have god like strength.. obviously Demon slayers can't slay demons...

You contradict yourself by insisting that he's unkillable and then turn around and say "Well he was killed, but it was for the sake of the plot."

So which is it fanboy? Is he unkillable or does he get killed for the plot?

Oh nice attempt to hang on to that debunked argument. "He died cause he was supposed to die." Yeah, he dies because someone kills him.

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, you're the fanboy that seems to think that Blizzard characters are more powerful than anything else out there.

Nothing can possibly messure up to your precious Blizzasrd characters... Obviously Gods can't have god like strength.. obviously Demon slayers can't slay demons...

You contradict yourself by insisting that he's unkillable and then turn around and say "Well he was killed, but it was for the sake of the plot."

So which is it fanboy? Is he unkillable or does he get killed for the plot?

Oh nice attempt to hang on to that debunked argument. "He died cause he was supposed to die." Yeah, he dies because someone kills him.

Now your the one going after straws, as you said about me in the prime evil thread.. I never said that nothing can messure against my precious blizzard characters.. I'm simply saying that none of these can messure against Archimonde..

He is unkillable in all ways attempted, except trough the force of vast nature powers that was providen by the whisps in the video that I linked.. Powers that Malorne couldn't even provide..

And if you didn't notice, I added " ", because he wasn't actually killed thanks to the players.. The players were given Godly blessings and invournability, in order to defeat him.. The thanks should be given to the Gods for making the heroes able to kill him..

You seem to have some kind of problem with me.. I dont know what.. But that leads to you ignoring how horribly powerful Archimonde is..

Creshosk
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Now your the one going after straws, as you said about me in the prime evil thread.. I never said that nothing can messure against my precious blizzard characters.. I'm simply saying that none of these can messure against Archimonde.. Hey the truth hurts, eh fanboy? And none of the ones in the other threads can match up to any of the blizzard characters in the other threads either... roll eyes (sarcastic)

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
He is unkillable in all ways attempted, except trough the force of vast nature powers that was providen by the whisps in the video that I linked.. Powers that Malorne couldn't even provide..Oh, so now we're back to "he's unkillable"

Want me to post the picture of the people standing next to his remains?

Again.. unkillable my ass.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
And if you didn't notice, I added " ", because he wasn't actually killed thanks to the players.. The players were given Godly blessings and invournability, in order to defeat him.. The thanks should be given to the Gods for making the heroes able to kill him.. Blizzards gods... no other god will do. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
You seem to have some kind of problem with me.. I dont know what.. But that leads to you ignoring how horribly powerful Archimonde is.. I have a problem with your fanboyism. It lweads me to ignoring you wanking Characters to be what they aren't...

"unkillable." roll eyes (sarcastic)

Burning thought
Archimonde is unkillable by means of these characters is what hes saying, none of them have the required natural powers at their disposal so they lose...and once again, that pic is gameplay, the same can happen to Illidan, yet illidan is shown to be able to far more than in the Black temple in the lame fight with him, its gameplay..nothng more

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by Creshosk
Hey the truth hurts, eh fanboy? And none of the ones in the other threads can match up to any of the blizzard characters in the other threads either... roll eyes (sarcastic)

Oh, so now we're back to "he's unkillable"

Want me to post the picture of the people standing next to his remains?

Again.. unkillable my ass.

Blizzards gods... no other god will do. roll eyes (sarcastic)

I have a problem with your fanboyism. It lweads me to ignoring you wanking Characters to be what they aren't...

"unkillable." roll eyes (sarcastic)

The truth is, that the three foes are going into slaughter..

Do post the picture before he becomes remains.. Maybe that will have you see that he is not actually killed by simple mortals, but that the mortals were given invournability, Godly strength and he was not even fighting them ((Not even standing in their direction)) at the point where they defeated him..

Not Blizzard Gods.. Warcraft Gods.. Warcraft being the universe at matter, while Blizzard being the creators of the game itself.. And of course no other Gods will do, because there was no other Gods around at the point where he did get defeated..




As for the blizzard characters in the other threads.. I would not have taken their sides in such a scale if it wasn't for the fact that they were as powerful as they were..

Sure.. Dante, Hayabusa and Alicia is great characters.. Truly powerful.. But they are no match against the Primes..

Then, we have the Sarah Kerrigan Vs. Solid Snake... Come on.. Even you should see the outcome of that, despite your hate to Blizzard characters..

Sarah Kerrigan Vs. Alicia.. Alicia wouldn't stand a chance..

Elune and Cenarius Vs. all those other characters.. Stalemate.. Because Elune has the power to end the battle before it starts..

Look at the threads.. They are putting some of the more powerful Blizzard characters against characters that isn't half as powerful..

Raziel Vs. Ner'Zhul.. Sure, that might be the most even thread so far.. I'd maybe even give it a 50/50 victory/loss for Ner'Zhul..

LoK Vs. GoW Vs. Warcraft.. You know where I'm going with that thread, so I wont even bother explain..





And for this match.. How will any of those three be able to stop a demon at skyscrape height who can crumble them by simply closing his fist?

Sure, those 25 men killed him.. But it took over 2-3 hours and he didn't even focus on them.. Participate in the battle and you'll see what I mean.. He has minions fighting for him, while he tries to damage the world tree.. And at his prime, he can finish these three of in the matter of seconds.. Since there is no limit, that will be the case.. They cant do anything against him..




You, Creshosk, my "friend".. Your not debating the actual battle.. Your just talking down on me.. I haven't seen you in any way explain why you dont think Archimonde will not defeat the three.. I haven't seen you even mention the three foes much.. If even at all.. All your doing is commenting my posts, and ignoring the fact that I'm providing, simply calling me a fanboy..




YES.. I am a fan of Archimonde.. I'm proud of it, because he's one badass character.. But I can accept defeats.. This, however is not a defeat for him..



Raziel-
- Sure, he can walk the worlds and he's a truely badass character.. Stealing souls, mastering the elements and most likely one heck of a swordsman.. But what does it matter.. He's fighting one that's said to be almost invournable to all attacks ((Except for immense natural magic, as seen in the video)) He's going to attack physicaly a demon that hasn't been defeated by titans almost planet sized.. One that's almost considered as powerful as Kil'Jaeden, who successfully enslaved the dreadlord race..


Kratos-
- God of War, or whatever he is.. I looked his feats up.. There's nothing about him that will save him from Archimonde's telekenetical powers, nor his ray that will turn the man inside out.. Even if Archimonde couldn't do those things, he'd stomp and throw Kratos around.. The Medusa head wouldn't have any effect as Archimonde can with ease fight with his eyes closed.. Not that he'll even see the head from his height..

Dante-
- Truly a challenge.. The great demon-hunter.. Has quite the record against fighting other demons.. Unfortunatly, he wont even be able to reach Archimonde.. Archimonde is capable of seeing Dante from miles away.. And from the same distance, he can start attacking him.. If he gets closer, lets say Archimonde can not crumble, or turn him inside out.. He'll simply telekeneticly lift him up and throw him back into the distance and keep attacking..


Sure.. All three of these may put up a little fight, if Archimonde holds back.. Not that he will, but if he would..

But they can not win..



If you disagree, please explain why.. Counter all the things that I've just brought up.. Then I'll counter your counters, because Archimonde IS that powerful.. He is even part omniscient..

Lana
Creshosk, I told you twice yesterday to be civil and you ignored me. I should have warned you for that, but I decided to be nice.

I'm not being nice anymore. If I see ONE more negative and hostile post from you, that will be a warning. You can debate without the condescending attitude and name calling, or you can leave the forum. Understand?

I am not going to accept or tolerate your attitude towards the other posters and towards my orders.

Remindme
Originally posted by Darth Extecute

Have you made an Archimonde Respect Thread?

If you haven't i think you should make it, I'm learning things from your posts stick out tongue

CRASHBANDICOOT3
I cant decide. I personally thought kratos and dante where the best around until i heard of archimonde from what you guys are saying. Also Ryu is extremely skilled and strong...this is my order of who would beat who...ryu would beat dante, kratos would beat ryu, raziel would destroy ayane, then archimonde would obliterate raziel...idk this might sound too crazy, kratos kills archimonde. just the fact that kratos was able to kill ARES the GOD OF WAR!!!!!!! so idk who this archimonde guy is but unless he can defeat ARES then i think kratos wins it all for himself

Burning thought
if Archimonde oblierates Raziel then Raz is even more dangerous in the spirit realms, Kratos is weakest i think, as a God kratos maybe he would win but normal kratos which is i think this one, he would be turned isnide out

Darth Extecute
Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
I cant decide. I personally thought kratos and dante where the best around until i heard of archimonde from what you guys are saying. Also Ryu is extremely skilled and strong...this is my order of who would beat who...ryu would beat dante, kratos would beat ryu, raziel would destroy ayane, then archimonde would obliterate raziel...idk this might sound too crazy, kratos kills archimonde. just the fact that kratos was able to kill ARES the GOD OF WAR!!!!!!! so idk who this archimonde guy is but unless he can defeat ARES then i think kratos wins it all for himself

What feats does Ares have in the game? I wouldn't be completely surprised if Archimonde could match him..

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