Originally posted by quanchi112
dr strange with prep is far greater than superman with prep.
bruce wayne loses. he has also lost to superman with prep. dont forget about that.
As I had posted earlier on the thread, my point is not that Strange would lose or Bruce would win (or that Strange would win or that Bruce would lose).
I know that the good Doctor is a monster without prep, and with Prep you might as well cash in your check and head on home. Anyone saying otherwise either doesn't know comics, or is just acting the fool.
What I am saying is that Batman is not exactly at starter class level when it comes to prep, and when it comes to pulling a trump card when it is least expected he is the BEST at it (note ....I am not talking about prep here, but rather turning an unwinnable situation into a win). The only person who beats him in that regard is Squirrel Girl, and in her case her main power is PIS (Batman on the other side has had a modicum of logic in his feats, for instance how he managed in the Obsidian Age, as well as how he took out the White Martians when the JLA had been effectively pawned).
If you are a bad guy, and you have 'won,' the one character you can COUNT on to mess up your day is Batman. Guaranteed. Just when you think your plan is foolproof (whether you are Vandal Savage, a bevy of White Martians, or Darkseid himself) you can be certain that a certain 'peak human' (an inside DC joke .....private mail me if you want to know more) will mess things up for you. Batman is more than what he seems ......for instance DC almost let their 'joke' outta the bag when they had the Sinestro corps offer Batman a Qwardian ring. Note: Those rings were automatically sent to beings and entities that inspired great fear, and one went to Batman. He refused it, but it was interesting nonetheless. Another favourite of mine (mentioned by another poster) is when he was seemingly able to break out of some high magic when other FAR MORE powerful teammates of his were hapless. Or for that matter the case with the White Martians.
Or the fact that a, ahem DC, 'peak human' was part of the JLA Trimurti!
Note: In terms of pure prep there are a number characters greater (some FAR greater than Batman), but in terms of turning a bad situation into a win probably only Squirrel Girl takes it (oh .....I should also mention Mr. Miracle).
BTW: To Batman fans. I am not saying Batman is not a god of prep ....he is, and cases like the thousand year prep plan in Obsidian age proves this. What I am saying is that there are some charcaters who are better at prep, and have longer spans of time sequence/permutation manipulation.
Anyways, on this thread.
What I am saying is that Batman is not someone to automatically attribute a loss to. Obsidian age showed that ....easily.
And THEN give Batman a MotherBox!
That is not a good scenario for ANY character, because for those days Batman could be anywhere in the UNIVERSE getting ANYTHING and with UNIVERSAL KNOWLEDGE and awareness.
Conclusion:
I am not saying Batman would win. As stated, Strange with prep is no joke.
But it would be a good fight. It may end in less than a second, but it wouldn't be as obvious as some may think.
This is actually one fight I would PAY to see .....more than any Surfer/Superman/Thor/Thanos/Hulk stupid-punchup. This fight (Strange Bruce) would probably last a split second (as one instantly destroys the other), but I would want to see it.
Why?
Because I would like to see whether Bruce, with those resources, could be able to pull a win against one of the most powerful sorcerers out there, who with prep is basically a demi-god (although note that Batman with a motherbox is a .....you guessed it ....virtually one as well).
Might be a short fight, but it would be intellectually stimulating for YEARS.
(In the punch-up series i would like to see a bout between Shiva, Richard Dragon, Batgirl, and Shang Chi .....and then an 'advanced' level fight between Gamora, Karate Kid, and Batman 1 Million.....probably the only fights I'd put before the Strange Batman fight).