Superman Vs. Martian Manhunter

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Diamond Kisses
Who will win? big grin

This is normal superman, not 100000 or whatever he is called nowdays roll eyes (sarcastic)

Rorschach
Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Who will win? big grin

Could go either way.

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
This is normal superman, not 100000 or whatever he is called nowdays roll eyes (sarcastic)

He's still called Superman.

Superman M* is a different character.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Rorschach
Could go either way.

Diamond Kisses
All these numbers are confusing stick out tongue

Zebedee
Superman usually. MM has a wider range of powers, but like with Doomsday at the end of the day if Superman cuts loose, none can really match him. Doomsday flattened the other heroes. Supes stood up to him alone. It's a pattern repeated over and over in DC

quanchi112
supes wins.

gogogadgetgo
superman. no question about it

Erik-Lensherr
Superman

Soljer
Could go either way.

A couple times out of ten.

The majority of times, however, Kal-El wins.

Entity
Can some one please tell me why MM couldn't just shut his mind rape him or just shut it off or something?
I mean if Max Lord can do it why in the name of god couldn't J'onn?

Zebedee
Originally posted by Entity
Can some one please tell me why MM couldn't just shut his mind rape him or just shut it off or something?
I mean if Max Lord can do it why in the name of god couldn't J'onn?

How often does MM actually use his powers like that? It's like saying Supes could just use T-vo.

Avlon
Originally posted by Entity
Can some one please tell me why MM couldn't just shut his mind rape him or just shut it off or something?
I mean if Max Lord can do it why in the name of god couldn't J'onn?

1st. MM has had issues with Supes mind and has said that when Supes doesn't want it taken over...that's pretty much it.

2nd. It took Max Lord years to do so.

Validus
It took Max Lord years because he's a no name telepath. Comparing him to J'onn is nuts.

Kal wins though.

Lord Shaper
Superman wins.

Kurash
superman

guy222
Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Who will win? big grin

This is normal superman, not 100000 or whatever he is called nowdays roll eyes (sarcastic)

supes ftw

Diamond Kisses
Watching JL it seems like all Martian Manhunter has to do is go 'spectral' or whatever and pull his organs out stick out tongue

What can Superman do against the ghost thing? ermm

Validus
Doesn't matter J'onn can do. Supes will just use his magical fanboy powers and negate his attacks.

BTW, what the hell is that girl in your sig sucking on?

Diamond Kisses
A carrot ermm

Why does everyone keep asking? stick out tongue

rico777
Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
A carrot ermm

Why does everyone keep asking? stick out tongue

laughing we have kids here damnit!!!

Diamond Kisses
It is a carrot for crying out loud faint

An entirely harmless carrot stick out tongue

Sirius77
Unless Superman gives him time to think,
MM will loose.

batdude123
Originally posted by Validus
It took Max Lord years because he's a no name telepath. Comparing him to J'onn is nuts.

It's interesting how that "no name" telepath f*cked up Superman's mind so badly that J'onn couldn't reverse the damage done by Lord.

And yeah, Supes ftw.

batdude123
Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Watching JL it seems like all Martian Manhunter has to do is go 'spectral' or whatever and pull his organs out stick out tongue

In the cartoon, Killer Frost proved that J'onn was pretty damn vulnerable to being frozen.

Superman has freeze breath.

You do the math.

NiņoAraņa
Originally posted by batdude123
In the cartoon, Killer Frost proved that J'onn was pretty damn vulnerable to being frozen.

Superman has freeze breath.

You do the math. cartoons are canon now? ermmnone

Soljer

UniOmni
Originally posted by batdude123
It's interesting how that "no name" telepath f*cked up Superman's mind so badly that J'onn couldn't reverse the damage done by Lord.

And yeah, Supes ftw.

It's interesting how J'onn once mindwiped the entire big seven with the most dismissive of efforts.

But Validus has it right.

Superman would get a constipated look on his face while he fights valiantly against the underhanded telepathic domination, and he'd get close, and vape J'onn with a blast of hv.

J'onn screams as per J'onn, and then Superman stands over him, saying how he never wanted to fight someone as powerful as the Martian Manhunter....

J'onn's a paper tiger.

Looks real formidable and uber on paper, but mostly shows up to get beat down on panel.

If he were in Wildstorm, he'd be the most powerful hero they've got, as i don't consider the Authority to be heroes.

quanchi112
Originally posted by batdude123
In the cartoon, Killer Frost proved that J'onn was pretty damn vulnerable to being frozen.

Superman has freeze breath.

You do the math. so you refernce cartoons when you want to huh?

quanchi112
superman wins here. superman>mm. its how it has always been and always will be.

Validus
Originally posted by batdude123
It's interesting how that "no name" telepath f*cked up Superman's mind so badly that J'onn couldn't reverse the damage done by Lord.

And yeah, Supes ftw.
Are you seriously trying to sell Lord as a top tier telepath? laughing out loud

UniOmni
He's gotta be if he enslaved Superman.....right?

Martian_mind
I'll give Jonn the majority dammit.

Validus
Superman winds up being someone's mindless zombie slave once a year at this point. I'm not all that impressed but then again, I'm not on that particular bandwagon.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
I'll give Jonn the majority dammit.

And you'll be the only person. stick out tongue.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
And you'll be the only person. stick out tongue.

I'll take them all if i have too......though i really hope i don't.

Me vs uniomi/Batdude/Validus=high levels of ownage.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validus
Superman winds up being someone's mindless zombie slave once a year at this point. I'm not all that impressed but then again, I'm not on that particular bandwagon. street fighter eh. i wish they could have continued with a great sequel to part 2. part two and its various updates were very good at the time. the just couldnt follow it up with a respectable sequel.

Validus
Originally posted by quanchi112
street fighter eh. i wish they could have continued with a great sequel to part 2. part two and its various updates were very good at the time. the just couldnt follow it up with a respectable sequel.
WTF son? Alpha 3 and Third Strike > SF II and it's many incarnations

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
I'll take them all if i have too......though i really hope i don't.

Me vs uniomi/Batdude/Validus=high levels of ownage.

*scratches head*

Them owning you, you mean?

Uni not so much, but Batdude or Vally could take you solo, stick out tongue.

Validus
Originally posted by Soljer
*scratches head*

Them owning you, you mean?

Uni not so much, but Batdude or Vally could take you solo, stick out tongue.
Please. Even Nvr would take it to Martian.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validus
WTF son? Alpha 3 and Third Strike > SF II and it's many incarnations sf 2>all the rest. not even close. sf 2 made sf great. not the crap that followed.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Validus
Please. Even Nvr would take it to Martian.

I seem to recall me owning you once or twice.....Jonn leaves Earth....scrubs nubs...etc....just back away now b*tch,you have a bad record with me stick out tongue

Validus
Originally posted by quanchi112
sf 2>all the rest. not even close. sf 2 made sf great. not the crap that followed.
There's a lot of crap that followed. Alpha 3 and Third Strike aren't among them.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validus
There's a lot of crap that followed. Alpha 3 and Third Strike aren't among them. sf 2 was still better than either of those 2. sf 2 put sf on the map.

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
Please. Even Nvr would take it to Martian.

Now that's just plain rude.

Validus
Originally posted by Martian_mind
I seem to recall me owning you once or twice.....Jonn leaves Earth....scrubs nubs...etc....just back away now b*tch,you have a bad record with me stick out tongue
Two zingers since you've been here. Definitely something to be proud of, friend.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
Now that's just plain rude.

He's just bitter over his numerous losses to me.


Sides,i've taken Nver.

Well,this thread is quite a self-esteem boost!!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validus
Two zingers since you've been here. Definitely something to be proud of, friend. m bison was definitely the coolest character of all the sf fighters though.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Validus
Two zingers since you've been here. Definitely something to be proud of, friend.

Hey,we're still 2-0 my way stick out tongue

JasonK4
Originally posted by quanchi112
m bison was definitely the coolest character of all the sf fighters though.
Besides Akuma, offcourse

ermm

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
Two zingers since you've been here. Definitely something to be proud of, friend.

Approximately .005 per day.

What a mindblowing ratio.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Hey,we're still 2-0 my way stick out tongue

Actually, considering the one you quoted, it'd have to be AT LEAST 2-1.

And I've certainly seen Vally own you on more than fourteen occasions.

smile.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
Approximately .005 per day.

What a mindblowing ratio.
he's still on 0 haermm

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
Actually, considering the one you quoted, it'd have to be AT LEAST 2-1.

And I've certainly seen Vally own you on more than fourteen occasions.

smile.

Evidently i wasn't around.


Liar,stop lying liar.

Validus
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Hey,we're still 2-0 my way stick out tongue
2-0 by your count which is even sadder considering it's your count after all.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Evidently i wasn't around.


Liar,stop lying liar.

Him wtfomgbbqpwning you behind your back is still a omgbbqwtfpwn.

By the law of commutativity, of course.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Validus
2-0 by your count which is even sadder considering it's your count after all.

Someones having trouble coping.


They have support groups you know.

UniOmni
Originally posted by Soljer
*scratches head*

Them owning you, you mean?

Uni not so much, but Batdude or Vally could take you solo, stick out tongue.

Ahh..

I love the barbs.

quanchi112
Originally posted by JasonK4
Besides Akuma, offcourse

ermm no akuma is second to the mighty dictator.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
Him wtfomgbbqpwning you behind your back is still a omgbbqwtfpwn.

By the law of commutativity, of course.

a non-seen ownage on the ownagee is not a technical ownage,as they are unaware that ownage has occured.

fact. stick out tongue

Validus
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Someones having trouble coping.


They have support groups you know.
I'm guessing thats 3-0 by your count.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Soljer
Him wtfomgbbqpwning you behind your back is still a omgbbqwtfpwn.

By the law of commutativity, of course. do u start shit with everyone on here.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
a non-seen ownage on the ownagee is not a technical ownage,as they are unaware that ownage has occured.

fact. stick out tongue

An ownage, no.

But a omgwtfbbqpwn?

You damn well better believe it.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Validus
I'm guessing thats 3-0 by your count.

No,you've actually admitted to the other 2.


So it's your count actually.


Now that makes it 3-0 stick out tongue

Soljer
Originally posted by quanchi112
do u start shit with everyone on here.

I'm not starting shit with martian.

We're just ****ing with each other.

And yes, I mean that in the most homosexual way possible.

no expression.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
An ownage, no.

But a omgwtfbbqpwn?

You damn well better believe it.

Hey,Australians are the penultimate weilders of the bbq.

It's not possible for a omgwtfbbqpwn to happen.

at best it's a omgwtfpwn.

Validus
Originally posted by quanchi112
do u start shit with everyone on here.
There's no room for you in this threesome. Maybe next time, chief.

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
There's no room for you in this threesome. Maybe next time, chief.

I wish I had a greater mastery of emoticons.

I would so herb this up.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Soljer
I'm not starting shit with martian.

We're just ****ing with each other.

And yes, I mean that in the most homosexual way possible.

no expression. sick

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Validus
There's no room for you in this threesome. Maybe next time, chief.

I'm flattered.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validus
There's no room for you in this threesome. Maybe next time, chief. i work alone. i dont need any help. no thanks.

Validus
Originally posted by quanchi112
sick
Reported. KMC doesn't support homophobia.

Validus
Originally posted by quanchi112
i work alone.
.....

Too easy.

Avlon
If Superman decides to shield his thoughts...MM is next to useless.

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/5654/martianmanhunter20p18hf9.th.jpg

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validus
Reported. KMC doesn't support homophobia. i have no problem with homophobia. but report on.

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
.....

Too easy.

Agreed.

I considered it...but, meh.

Soljer
Originally posted by quanchi112
i have no problem with homophobia.

As is evident.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Avlon
If Superman decides to shield his thoughts...MM is next to useless.

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/5654/martianmanhunter20p18hf9.th.jpg

All he says is that if Supes wants to not be found,he can't be found by his thoughts.Hardly saying that if he can see him he's useless.

Also,considering Jonn read his thoughts with ease in the burning arc,read his thoughts and the entire worlds at the start of his series i'd hardly say thats relevant.

Validus
Originally posted by quanchi112
i have no problem with homophobia.
Must be why your first reaction to homosexual activity was the following.

Originally posted by quanchi112
sick

Avlon
Originally posted by Martian_mind
All he says is that if Supes wants to not be found,he can't be found by his thoughts.Hardly saying that if he can see him he's useless.

Also,considering Jonn read his thoughts with ease in the burning arc,read his thoughts and the entire worlds at the start of his series i'd hardly say thats relevant.

OK, so Jonn lasts an extra 10 seconds.

And in those...Clark wasn't shielding his thoughts.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Validus
Must be why your first reaction to homosexual activity was the following.

I thought it was to a homosexual threesome.

heck,while i have no homo qualms,the idea of a three man chain throws me off a bit.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Validus
Must be why your first reaction to homosexual activity was the following.

Would certainly make sense.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Avlon
OK, so Jonn lasts an extra 10 seconds.

And in those...Clark wasn't shielding his thoughts.

Superman can do dick to a phased Jonn.Jonn can still break him Telepathically if he needs to,and he still has eyeblasts while phased.So Jonn is untouchable with his best offense still available....yeah,supes loses.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Superman can do dick to a phased Jonn.Jonn can still break him Telepathically if he needs to,and he still has eyeblasts while phased.So Jonn is untouchable with his best offense still available....yeah,supes loses.

Superman punches him solid. no expression.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
Superman punches him solid. no expression.

He's tried and failed smile

Validus
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Superman can do dick to a phased Jonn.Jonn can still break him Telepathically if he needs to,and he still has eyeblasts while phased.So Jonn is untouchable with his best offense still available....yeah,supes loses.
J'onn's best offense are the eye beams? He sucks more than I thought.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He's tried and failed smile

Scans or it didn't happen.

Hell, even with scans, it didn't happen.

Superman punches him back to solidity.

no expression.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Validus
J'onn's best offense are the eye beams? He sucks more than I thought.

Telepathy dumbass.

quanchi112
i just find it funny i was reported for puttin a smiley up.

Soljer
Originally posted by quanchi112
i just find it funny i was reported for puttin a smiley up.

I find it hilarious that you can't detect even the most obvious levels of sarcasm.

Validus
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Telepathy dumbass.
His telepathy doesn't work. How much can one character suck?

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
Scans or it didn't happen.

Hell, even with scans, it didn't happen.

Superman punches him back to solidity.

no expression.

Then Jonn just chucks a protex and smothers him.

Or mindrapes.

or turns invisible and intangible.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Soljer
I find it hilarious that you can't detect even the most obvious levels of sarcasm. whos being sarcastic?

laughing

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Then Jonn just chucks a protex and smothers him.

Or mindrapes.

or turns invisible and intangible.

Invisible? How does that matter? Superman can still see him.

Intangible? How does that help? Superman can still punch him.

Smothers him? How does that help? Superman doesn't need to breathe.

Validus
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Then Jonn just chucks a protex and smothers him.

Or mindrapes.

or turns invisible and intangible.
What about the eye beams?

Soljer
Originally posted by quanchi112
whos being sarcastic?

laughing

Vally. no expression.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Validus
His telepathy doesn't work. How much can one character suck?

Yes it does.

for all the statements,in practice telepathy works on Superman quite well.

I seem to remember a pre-teen girl making Supes her b*tch with it.

God,Supes is such a dick.

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by Validus
His telepathy doesn't work. How much can one character suck? Apparently as much as the fanboys.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
Invisible? How does that matter? Superman can still see him.

Intangible? How does that help? Superman can still punch him.

Smothers him? How does that help? Superman doesn't need to breathe.

No he can't

No he can't

Hey,it worked for protex,something about entering his every pore and tearing him apart from inside out.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Validus
What about the eye beams?

Jonns eyebeams onbe shot Supes no expression

I know it,you know it,hell even Bran/Quanchi knows it.

Sup Bran,btw.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
No he can't

No he can't

Hey,it worked for protex,something about entering his every pore and tearing him apart from inside out.

Yes he can. Soul vision.

Yes he can. Superman-punches.

Superman doesn't need to breathe.

smile.

Avlon
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Superman can do dick to a phased Jonn.Jonn can still break him Telepathically if he needs to,and he still has eyeblasts while phased.So Jonn is untouchable with his best offense still available....yeah,supes loses.

Except Superman can also be invisible and intangible...and he's done it to Martians...

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Then Jonn just chucks a protex and smothers him.

Or mindrapes.

or turns invisible and intangible.

He didn't even use HV on Protex just to make it fair. smile

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
Yes he can. Soul vision.

Yes he can. Superman-punches.

Superman doesn't need to breathe.

smile.

Has never helped before.

Martian-dodges.

Not a factor.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Avlon
Except Superman can also be invisible and intangible...and he's done it to Martians...



He didn't even use HV on Protex just to make it fair. smile

Which means dick when he gets mindraped.

No,he just used flames at the center of the earth.

a far more creative way to cheat.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Has never helped before.

Martian-dodges.

Not a factor.

Superman can see the invisible. Soul vision.

Martian Manhunter can not see the invisible - and Superman can become so.

Superman can hit the intangible.

Martian Manhunter cannot.

Superman is much faster.

Martian Manhunter is not.

Superman is much stronger.

Martian Manhunter is not.

Superman one shots the Manhunter.

The Manhunter does not.

smile.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
Superman can see the invisible. Soul vision.

Martian Manhunter can not see the invisible - and Superman can become so.

Superman can hit the intangible.

Martian Manhunter cannot.

Superman is much faster.

Martian Manhunter is not.

Superman is much stronger.

Martian Manhunter is not.

Superman one shots the Manhunter.

The Manhunter does not.

smile.

Jonn wins.

Why?

Cause he's the Martian motherf#cking manhunter.

All that needed to be said.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Jonn wins.

Why?

Cause he's the Martian motherf#cking manhunter.

All that needed to be said.


He's also black on the inside.

And we all know how racist comics (and, by extension the forums) are.

Martian Manhunter will win as soon as Storm solos Eternity and Oblivion simultaneously.

The way she should.

Avlon
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Which means dick when he gets mindraped.

No,he just used flames at the center of the earth.

a far more creative way to cheat.

Jonn admitted that he can't even FIND his mind when Supes doesn't want to be found.

Here is another ocassion..and Supes wasn't even trying.. Jonn got pwned by subconscious thoughts. laughing

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5261/supersting09vl6.th.jpg

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Soljer
He's also black on the inside.

And we all know how racist comics (and, by extension the forums) are.

Martian Manhunter will win as soon as Storm solos Eternity and Oblivion simultaneously.

The way she should.

yeah,but Supermans red on the inside.He won't have time to beat Jonn when people break his treaties and force him to run a seedy casino.

Huge black wang>>Seedy indian casino.

I'll be back,but i hafta run for now.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
yeah,but Supermans red on the inside.He won't have time to beat Jonn when people break his treaties and force him to run a seedy casino.

Huge black wang>>Seedy indian casino.

I'll be back,but i hafta run for now.

But, you see, the world actually CARES about Native Americans.

They're all looking to screw over the black man. no expression.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Avlon
Jonn admitted that he can't even FIND his mind when Supes doesn't want to be found.

Here is another ocassion..and Supes wasn't even trying.. Jonn got pwned by subconscious thoughts. laughing

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5261/supersting09vl6.th.jpg

For every scan you show there is one that contradicts it.

So just stop trying,specially since telepathy is not Jonns only way to win.

now,again i have to go.

Soljer
Originally posted by Martian_mind
For every scan you show there is one that contradicts it.



Yeah, but, as mentioned, Red > Black. no expression.

Avlon
Originally posted by Martian_mind
For every scan you show there is one that contradicts it.

So just stop trying,specially since telepathy is not Jonns only way to win.

now,again i have to go.

Not from Jonn, who has years of experience being not 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or even 5th best.

Just share bad thoughts with Jonn, and he goes down.... Black Adam knew that too.

smile

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/1857/week151999action75309jojd2.jpg

Validus
Originally posted by Avlon
Not from Jonn, who has years of experience being not 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or even 5th best.
Superman
Hal "Highball" Jordan
Kyle Rayner
Captain Marvel
Alan Scott

No, he's not 5th by my count.

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
Superman
Hal "Highball" Jordan
Kyle Rayner
Captain Marvel
Alan Scott

No, he's not 5th by my count.

Maybe tenth?

Validus
Originally posted by Soljer
Maybe tenth?
Superman
Hal "Highball" Jordan
Kyle Rayner
Captain Marvel
Alan Scott
Black Adam
Dr. Fate
Eradicator
Firestorm
The Flash

Nah, not tenth either.

Soljer
I'm certainly feeling that the Flash should be higher.

But...uhhh....

Twentieth?

Yeah. There. Let's see a list of TWENTY.

Validus
Originally posted by Soljer
I'm certainly feeling that the Flash should be higher.

But...uhhh....

Twentieth?

Yeah. There. Let's see a list of TWENTY.
The list is in no order.

1.Superman
2.Hal "Highball" Jordan
3.Kyle Rayner
4.Captain Marvel
5.Alan Scott
6.Black Adam
7.Dr. Fate
8.Eradicator
9.Firestorm
10.The Flash
11.Obsidian
12.Starman
13.Element Lad
14.Mon-El
15.Zatanna
16.Supergirl
17.Captain Atom
18.John Stewart
19.Guy Gardner
20.Kilowog

I think J'onn is 21.

EDIT - Jakeem Thunder too. I think we can say J'onn is 22nd best with a certainty.

EDIT 2 - Let's face it. Wonder Woman would beat that ass too. 23rd best.

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
The list is in no order.

1.Superman
2.Hal "Highball" Jordan
3.Kyle Rayner
4.Captain Marvel
5.Alan Scott
6.Black Adam
7.Dr. Fate
8.Eradicator
9.Firestorm
10.The Flash
11.Obsidian
12.Starman
13.Element Lad
14.Mon-El
15.Zatanna
16.Supergirl
17.Captain Atom
18.John Stewart
19.Guy Gardner
20.Kilowog

I think J'onn is 21.

EDIT - Jakeem Thunder too. I think we can say J'onn is 22nd best with a certainty.

EDIT 2 - Let's face it. Wonder Woman would beat that ass too. 23rd best.

I see...

Well, damn...23rd isn't too bad.

Avlon
Originally posted by Validus
The list is in no order.

1.Superman
2.Hal "Highball" Jordan
3.Kyle Rayner
4.Captain Marvel
5.Alan Scott
6.Black Adam
7.Dr. Fate
8.Eradicator
9.Firestorm
10.The Flash
11.Obsidian
12.Starman
13.Element Lad
14.Mon-El
15.Zatanna
16.Supergirl
17.Captain Atom
18.John Stewart
19.Guy Gardner
20.Kilowog

I think J'onn is 21.

EDIT - Jakeem Thunder too. I think we can say J'onn is 22nd best with a certainty.

EDIT 2 - Let's face it. Wonder Woman would beat that ass too. 23rd best.

You're being generous. There are more than can be crammed into that list. smile

Validus
Originally posted by Soljer
I see...

Well, damn...23rd isn't too bad.
Oh definitely not. There's no shame in being 23rd best. thumb up

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
Oh definitely not. There's no shame in being 23rd best. thumb up

Except for the fact that Avlon is right - 23rd is still pretty generous.

Validus
Originally posted by Avlon
You're being generous. There are more than can be crammed into that list. smile
Err...my fingers got tired. sad

Validus
Originally posted by Soljer
Except for the fact that Avlon is right - 23rd is still pretty generous.
Let's just put an asterisk next to 23rd and call it a day.

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
Let's just put an asterisk next to 23rd and call it a day.

But regardless, there are still at least twenty levels of bad assery between Superman and the Manhunter.

Avlon
Originally posted by Soljer
But regardless, there are still at least twenty levels of bad assery between Superman and the Manhunter. thumb up

Soljer
Were we counting villains as well?

I mean...that list could easily be doubled...

Avlon
Henshaw wouldn't even bother with the likes of him.

Mary would probably pwn him worse that Teth did.

Asmodel killed him and then pwned him in death.

Preus hv'd him through his intagibility.

Doomsday pretty much laughed at him and told him he's no superman.

Bats was pwning his race singlehandedly.

Aquaman did better against an imperiex probe than MM did.

Prometheus turned him into goo.

Soljer
Originally posted by Avlon
Henshaw wouldn't even bother with the likes of him.

thumb up.

Validus
Originally posted by Avlon
Henshaw wouldn't even bother with the likes of him.
Henshaw? You need to step it down there. Let's talk about OMAC's.

SnazzySmurph
Originally posted by Avlon
Bats was pwning his race singlehandedly. Batman: JLA Enemy Numero Uno?

Avlon
Originally posted by Validus
Henshaw? You need to step it down there. Let's talk about OMAC's.

Damn. You're right.. Got ahead of myself there.

Won't happen again.

Soljer
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Batman: JLA Enemy Numero Uno?

Except Superman still stomps him. Regardless of kryptonite.

He's moved Bruce before Bruce can react, and has dodged bruce's punch to save bruce a broken fist.

Superman: The only person that can beat Batman. no expression.

JasonK4
Originally posted by Soljer
Except Superman still stomps him. Regardless of kryptonite.

He's moved Bruce before Bruce can react, and has dodged bruce's punch to save bruce a broken fist.

Superman: The only person that can beat Batman. no expression.
What about Martian Manhunter? shifty

Avlon
Originally posted by Soljer
Except Superman still stomps him. Regardless of kryptonite.

He's moved Bruce before Bruce can react, and has dodged bruce's punch to save bruce a broken fist.

Superman: The only person that can beat Batman. no expression.

Guess that means yet another to add to that top 20 list.

Validus
Originally posted by JasonK4
What about Martian Manhunter? shifty
Batkick all up in dat ass!

Soljer
Originally posted by JasonK4
What about Martian Manhunter? shifty

Are you kidding? Batman solo'd a dozen Martian Manhunters. no expression.

Validus
I think we can cure cancer faster than we can find someone Manhunter is better than.

JasonK4
Originally posted by Soljer
Are you kidding? Batman solo'd a dozen Martian Manhunters. no expression.
So has supes dodged a batkick yet?

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
I think we can cure cancer faster than we can find someone Manhunter is better than.

Black Panther already did.

He just likes watching little white girls suffer.

Soljer
Originally posted by JasonK4
So has supes dodged a batkick yet?

On multiple occasions, actually.

Skeets
Originally posted by Validus
I think we can cure cancer faster than we can find someone Manhunter is better than.
Well no one takes an ass whooping "better than" Manhunter.

Avlon
Jimmy Olsen?

Validus
Originally posted by Soljer
Black Panther already did.

He just likes watching little white girls suffer.
That crazy old Panther.

SnazzySmurph
Originally posted by Soljer
Except Superman still stomps him. Regardless of kryptonite.

He's moved Bruce before Bruce can react, and has dodged bruce's punch to save bruce a broken fist.

Superman: The only person that can beat Batman. no expression. "Enemy" being the operative word.

Soljer
Originally posted by Skeets
Well no one takes an ass whooping "better than" Manhunter.

I dunno....Aquaman is pretty good at getting his ass kicked....

Which raises the question - Aquaman versus the Manhunter?

confused.

Soljer
Originally posted by Validus
That crazy old Panther.

Racist.

Validus
Originally posted by Avlon
Jimmy Olsen?
He has flame breath. Not good for J'onn.

SnazzySmurph
Originally posted by Soljer
I dunno....Aquaman is pretty good at getting his ass kicked....

Which raises the question - Aquaman versus the Manhunter?

confused. Aquaman mindrapes him.

Soljer
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Aquaman rapes him.

In how many orifices?

He IS a shapeshifter, afterall...

Validus
Originally posted by Soljer
I dunno....Aquaman is pretty good at getting his ass kicked....

Which raises the question - Aquaman versus the Manhunter?

confused.
King of Atlantis Vs Emo Martian

I'll take Orin.

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