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claw match here who wins ? vega or wolvie ? no healing factor for wolvie here or it wouldnt be fair.

Even without the HF Wolverine's still got his superhuman senses, and experience advantage...

Plus two sets of claws instead of just one...

If an HFless Wolverine can prolong a fight with Sabretooth he should definitely be able to handle Vega.. and that's assuming he's even hit.

Poor Vega.....

Originally posted by jinzin
Even without the HF Wolverine's still got his superhuman senses, and experience advantage...

Plus two sets of claws instead of just one...

If an HFless Wolverine can prolong a fight with Sabretooth he should definitely be able to handle Vega.. and that's assuming he's even hit. you never saw the street fighter cartoon ? vega kicked ass fighting. he gave ryu a pretty hard time

When was this?

In the American cartoon, Vega made two apearances and got owned in both of them: by Blanka and by Cammy.

In SFIIV He fought Ken and got WTFKOed.

In SFII The Animated Movie he got WFKOed by Chun Li out of an apartment building.

In SFII The Movie Ryu kicked the crap out of him, and Ryu didn't even really have powers in that movie.

In the old comics, Chun Li kicked his ass.

In the new comics, Ken kicked his ass.

The only thing he's got going for him is when he was beating Dan to a pulp in the Alpha movie and that's not really a feat at all...

Originally posted by grey fox
Poor Vega.....
Yeah, pretty much....

If I had some creative control of the character he'd actually win some fights... but.... I don't..

sadwalk

Originally posted by jinzin


When was this?

In the American cartoon, Vega made two apearances and got owned in both of them: by Blanka and by Cammy.

In SFIIV He fought Ken and got WTFKOed.

In SFII The Animated Movie he got WFKOed by Chun Li out of an apartment building.

In SFII The Movie Ryu kicked the crap out of him, and Ryu didn't even really have powers in that movie.

In the old comics, Chun Li kicked his ass.

In the new comics, Ken kicked his ass.

The only thing he's got going for him is when he was beating Dan to a pulp in the Alpha movie and that's not really a feat at all...


Yeah, pretty much....

If I had some creative control of the character he'd actually win some fights... but.... I don't..

sadwalk street fighter comics i never read them. in SFII movie ryu and vega didnt get to finish the fight cause guile busted in and got sagat and everyone there under arrest. in SFIIV cartoon vega gave ken a hassel. he was fighting him for 2 whole episodes. of course there gonna put ken to win cause he was the good guy there.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
street fighter comics i never read them. in SFII movie ryu and vega didnt get to finish the fight cause guile busted in and got sagat and everyone there under arrest.
They fought again later.. Vega lost...

Originally posted by spidey-dude
in SFIIV cartoon vega gave ken a hassel. he was fighting him for 2 whole episodes. of course there gonna put ken to win cause he was the good guy there. I didn't say he didn't put up a decent fight.

wolverine altough vega was good as hell

Originally posted by spidey-dude
claw match here who wins ? vega or wolvie ? no healing factor for wolvie here or it wouldnt be fair.

logan ftw

Vega stomps him. Even if Logan has his healing factor.

Originally posted by Soljer
Vega stomps him. Even if Logan has his healing factor.

Originally posted by jinzin


What? Vega is vastly faster and more skilled.

And it's not like it takes THAT much to over-load Logan's healing factor. A few slashes to put him on the ropes (which will be child's play for Vega to land, considering his speed and skill), and then a barrage of attacks to keep logan down. He just keeps going till Logan stops going.

Vega, 8/10 if Logan has his healing factor.

Vega 10/10 if he doesn't.

You are such a manipulative sumumabitch.

Originally posted by jinzin
You are such a manipulative sumumabitch.

You're just mad because you know I'm right.

Or you could be, y'know.. If Vega ever actually won a fight... EVER!
Well... no not really, even then.

Originally posted by jinzin
Or you could be, y'know.. If Vega ever actually won a fight... EVER!
Well... no not really, even then.

Well, he wins ten in this thread. That's a start, no? .

Originally posted by jinzin
Even without the HF Wolverine's still got his superhuman senses, and experience advantage...

Plus two sets of claws instead of just one...

If an HFless Wolverine can prolong a fight with Sabretooth he should definitely be able to handle Vega.. and that's assuming he's even hit.

And superhuman physique..

Originally posted by Soljer
Well, he wins ten in this thread. That's a start, no? .

That is pretty good. He now has 10 wins against Wolverine which is more than enough proof that he'll win 10/10 here.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That is pretty good. He now has 10 wins against Wolverine which is more than enough proof that he'll win 10/10 here.

Exactly.

Quod Erat mother-****ing Demonstrandum

vega is a better fighter so i give it to him. and yes hes lost many fights cause every fight hes had was against ryu or ken and both of them can kick wolvies ass as well so no difference there.

Vega ftw. But its not NEARLY a curbstomp. Vega will probably be severely deformed or bleed out after the fight is finished.

What the hellz a 'Vega'?

Some sort of vegan super-hero?

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
What the hellz a 'Vega'?

Some sort of vegan super-hero?

No wonder he's so pale, scrawny, and weak...

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
What the hellz a 'Vega'?

Some sort of vegan super-hero?

have you never played Street Fighter?

Originally posted by masterbruce
have you never played Street Fighter? You know, that question doesn't help me, when I still don't have a gad damn idea what you're talking about.

Can you help me Brucemaster Zero?

Wolverine vs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Vega_Spitzer.jpg/600px-Vega_Spitzer.jpg.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine vs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Vega_Spitzer.jpg/600px-Vega_Spitzer.jpg. What is that? An egg?

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
What is that? An egg?

That's vega.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
vega is a better fighter so i give it to him. and yes hes lost many fights cause every fight hes had was against ryu or ken and both of them can kick wolvies ass as well so no difference there.

Vega is nowhere NEAR a better fighter than Wolverine...

Wolverine's stalemated Captain America.
Easily disarmed an age old samurai demon warrior Ogun.
Completely out maneuvered Elektra.
Walked through Shang Chi in 4 panels.

Vega doesn't have one feat nor one insinuation that puts him above Logan in the terms of fighting ability.

The fact that he has to use claws against unarmed opponents and he STILL loses should tell you that..

And no, he didn't lose those fights because Ken and Ryu are uber badasses... He lost them because he just wasn't good enough to compete.

There are only a couple of incarnations of Ryu and Ken that could possibly take Logan in a fight and the one's that beat Vega weren't one of them. no

There's not an incarnation of Vega that exists that can win this fight... Hell, you might be hard pressed to even find a version of Vega from a fanfic that could.

Originally posted by Soljer
That's vega.

Lol, we all know that Wolverine OWNED the Sun.... you think Vega would fair any better?

Vega from my fanfic would win.

Originally posted by Validus
Vega from my fanfic would win.

LIAR!

Originally posted by Validus
Vega from my fanfic would win.
Share please!

Originally posted by jinzin
Vega is nowhere NEAR a better fighter than Wolverine...

Wolverine's stalemated Captain America.
Scans or it didn't happen.

Originally posted by jinzin

Easily disarmed an age old samurai demon warrior Ogun. Scans or it didn't happen.Originally posted by jinzin

Completely out maneuvered Elektra. Scans or it didn't happen.Originally posted by jinzin

Walked through Shang Chi in 4 panels. Scans or it didn't happen.

Originally posted by jinzin
LIAR!
You're right.

Originally posted by jinzin
Lol, we all know that Wolverine OWNED the Sun.... you think Vega would fair any better? Oh, I thought it was a lady egg...

Originally posted by Validus
Vega from my fanfic would win.

You wrote a story about a star?

Originally posted by Soljer
Scans or it didn't happen.

Scans or it didn't happen. Scans or it didn't happen. Scans or it didn't happen.

I.
Jinzin.
Am going.
To.
Stab.
You....


Originally posted by Validus
You're right.



Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Oh, I thought it was a lady egg...

hysterical

I thought he beat Captain America...

Originally posted by jinzin
I.
Jinzin.
Am going.
To.
Stab.
You....



Scans or it didn't happen.

Originally posted by Soljer
You wrote a story about a star?
Uhhh...errr...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/superdante/1171162637146.jpg

Originally posted by JasonK4
I thought he beat Captain America...

technically... I suppose he did..

Originally posted by Soljer
Scans or it didn't happen.
doh

Originally posted by jinzin
technically... I suppose he did..

He did...remember...origins....

Originally posted by JasonK4
Originally posted by jinzin
technically... I suppose he did.. QUOTE]

He did...remember...origins....

Oh come on, as if Jinzin knows ANYTHING about Wolverine.

Originally posted by JasonK4
He did...remember...origins....

yeah I know.. but when he did rail through Cap he was in berserker rage..

when he stalemated him, it was through fighting ability.

Originally posted by Soljer
Oh come on, as if Jinzin knows ANYTHING about Wolverine.

you keep it up I'll forget what I said earlier about those Uncanny issues.

Originally posted by jinzin
you keep it up I'll forget what I said earlier about those Uncanny issues.

What?

Scans or it didn't happen. .

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah I know.. but when he did rail through Cap he was in berserker rage..

when he stalemated him, it was through fighting ability.
But, if cap hadn't picked up the Murusuma Blade, he would've been dead...

Originally posted by JasonK4
But, if cap hadn't picked up the Murusuma Blade, he would've been dead...



Nah.

If Cap hadn't picked up the murasma blade, he would have done something else to keep the fight even.

Using a resource at hand isn't a sign of desperation, it's just a sign of using a resource.

.

Oh...and...err...

Scans or it didn't happen! !

Originally posted by JasonK4
But, if cap hadn't picked up the Murusuma Blade, he would've been dead...



Not arguing that.. but Wolverine's advantage was more due to HF at that point.

Originally posted by Soljer
Nah.

If Cap hadn't picked up the murasma blade, he would have done something else to keep the fight even.

Using a resource at hand isn't a sign of desperation, it's just a sign of using a resource.

.

Oh...and...err...

Scans or it didn't happen! !

I'll scan your face!

Originally posted by jinzin
I'll scan your face!

Will it make it into the respect thread? 313.

Originally posted by Soljer
Will it make it into the respect thread? 313.
What respect thread?

Originally posted by jinzin
What respect thread?

*stabs Jinzin in the eye*.

Originally posted by jinzin


*twice*.

*scans or it didn't happen*

Originally posted by jinzin
*scans or it didn't happen*

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/528/avatar463647gifzh0.jpg

Originally posted by Soljer
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/528/avatar463647gifzh0.jpg

Originally posted by Soljer
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/528/avatar463647gifzh0.jpg

shock



oh.. damn.... DAYYYYYUUUUUMMMMM!

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vega as in teh matador?
vega as in m. bison?
jap version m.bison is named vega
and in us version vega is the matador

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
vega as in teh matador?
vega as in m. bison?
jap version m.bison is named vega
and in us version vega is the matador

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
vega as in teh matador?
vega as in m. bison?
jap version m.bison is named vega
and in us version vega is the matador since where all speaking english hear i think where going by the american vega not the oriental one

Jinzin, if you really believe than Wolverine "TOYING" with Shang Chi in 4 panels is playsible and the way it happened is normal, then you're hopeless...Logan can win over Shang Chi, but that fight can really go ether way and it wouldn't be a piece of cake for Logan. That fight deserved to be at least 10 panels long, Wolvie's victory in 4 panels=BS.

And Evil Ryu wouldn't just give Wolverine "problems", he'll obliterate him. And I'm not a Street Fighter fan and dislike Ryu. Normal Ryu wins like 8\10 against non-handicapped Wolvie.

Back to topic, if HF isn't active, then Vega wins that like 7/10. Speed and technique advantage, Wolvie's fighting style is more of a brawling.
_________________
If that fight is in Comics vs Section, I suppose we're talking about the version of Vega from Street FIghter comics.

Okay well first off, we already had this discussion and forgive me if I was mistaken but didn't we already agree to disagree?

A character is defined by what they do not whata person thinks they could or should do at one time... Wolverine pwned Shang Chi, He's pwned fighters better than Shang Chi.... That's what happens when he uses his fighting ability...

Again it depends on what media we're talking about for SF characters... From all appearances the only SF incarnations that would destroy Wolverine come from non-canon comics that crossover with other video games...

Aside from those what feat does Ryu have to secure a win over Logan?
Honestly..


If Wolverine doesn't have an HF to rely on he's going to be more focused on using his skills.. Vega can't beat Wolverine in a contest of skill OR sheer physicality with or without a healing factor.

I gotta agree with a little out of each of the last two post. Beating Shang Chi in 4 panels is BS. And I've said this before and I'll say it again, either its a Crap fight, or people on this forum Overate Shang Chi waaaaaay to much.

Also, I kinda agree with Jinzin, who can say vega is more skilled or faster then wolverine, nothing really. Although I do think he is definitely more agile and he shows it far more often; But pure speed and H2H skill, I'm not to sure on this one.

Although I do think vega might be more skilled with the use of his one claw, it can be cut off, destroyed, etc. Wolverine has two, that cant be destroyed, + I think wolverine is a better natural H2H fighter then vega.

It could go either way, I'm leaning toward the slight agility advantage for vega because I do think he would be able to dodge and get the first strike, and in a fight with these stipulations, the first strike would be everything.

Originally posted by jinzin
Okay well first off, we already had this discussion and forgive me if I was mistaken but didn't we already agree to disagree?

A character is defined by what they do not whata person thinks they could or should do at one time... Wolverine pwned Shang Chi, He's pwned fighters better than Shang Chi.... That's what happens when he uses his fighting ability...

Again it depends on what media we're talking about for SF characters... From all appearances the only SF incarnations that would destroy Wolverine come from non-canon comics that crossover with other video games...

Aside from those what feat does Ryu have to secure a win over Logan?
Honestly..


If Wolverine doesn't have an HF to rely on he's going to be more focused on using his skills.. Vega can't beat Wolverine in a contest of skill OR sheer physicality with or without a healing factor. Can you show me the Shang Chi fight? I missed that.

If that's the case then I seriously call into question his speed... I'd even venture to say that while his agility is used far more often than Logan's I really don't think he'd actually be superior... Logan's agility has been described as enhanced and he's proven it when he used his agility to trick Hydra into thinking he was Beast.... That said, Vega does use it more and admittedly he would probably venture to use it more in this fight. But I don't think that's enough of an advantage to get in the "first shot" here... While Vega may have an agility advantage due to CIS... Wolverine still has the (most likely)skill/experience/strength/and (most likely) speed advantage... plus like you stated Apollo, he's got claws that can't get ruined while Vegas can....
Hell Vega's been disarmed from his claws midfight in at least 3 different media. Also, though Vega does manage to land the first blow in a large wealth of his fights, they hardly ever take anyone down striaght away.. usually he wears down his opponents through multiple strikes... I don't think he could afford to do that in this fight.

Originally posted by Grifter07
Can you show me the Shang Chi fight? I missed that. I can post it later today.

Originally posted by jinzin
I can post it later today. when is later ?

Originally posted by jinzin
I can post it later today. Thanks. What series and issue was it?

X-Men.. I THINK around issue 62-64...

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Shang-Chi
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Wolverine easily hands Shang Chi his ass on a platter:
1. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6830/shangchi1nx1.jpg
2. http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/284/shangchi2af8.jpg
3. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2512/shangchi3eu5.jpg

I don't see whats so bad about that. He didn't win, he just managed to use his claws to his advantage, if thats it all why do people moan so much?

Originally posted by jinzin
X-Men.. I THINK around issue 62-64...

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Shang-Chi
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Wolverine easily hands Shang Chi his ass on a platter:
1. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6830/shangchi1nx1.jpg
2. http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/284/shangchi2af8.jpg
3. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2512/shangchi3eu5.jpg

ShangChi is a dude?





Huh

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
ShangChi is a dude?





Huh