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It has come to my attention, that certain people believe that Wolverine can take Slade in a fight. And to make it fun, Slade doesn't get his toys.

I'm here to try and prove them wrong.

1st round: H2H, no claws for Wolverine.
2nd round: Slade gets his promethium sword, logan gets his claws.
3rd round: Slade gets his armor, Wolverine gets the muramasa.

Deathstroke takes all 3 . The only round where he could have slight problems is the 3rd one .

Logan wins every round readily.

what the hell is deathstroke gunna do in the 3rd round? Nothing.

Second round again is melee combat which again deathstroke is completely screwed.

first round h2h............Logan is the superior fighter with superior healing............how is he supose to lsoe the magarity here?


trick your beign rediculous...........and if you even try to use deathstroke tagging flash as evidence im gunna cry with laughter.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It has come to my attention, that certain people believe that Wolverine can take Slade in a fight. And to make it fun, Slade doesn't get his toys.

I'm here to try and prove them wrong.

can't wait to see this.


Originally posted by TricksterPriest
1st round: H2H, no claws for Wolverine..

How he gunna take the majority here.........

He fighting some one who is not only a superior fighter, but has superior expereince and superior healing.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
2nd round: Slade gets his promethium sword, logan gets his claws..

as stated above .

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
3rd round: Slade gets his armor, Wolverine gets the muramasa. ..
what the hell is slade gunna get the majority here...........

As I said in the other thread , it's obvious you don't know much about Deathstroke .

I'll deal with this tomorrow.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
As I said in the other thread , it's obvious you don't know much about Deathstroke .
oh I know quite a bit about him you just think he way better then he is. The man ahs trouble with batman and ngith wing due to the fact there more skilled then him.


you clear;y know nothing about wolverine

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'll deal with this tomorrow.
I'll deal with you tomorrow...

Originally posted by JasonK4
I'll deal with you tomorrow...
sosigned I can't wait fpr the rediculous crap im gunna here

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'll deal with this tomorrow.

I get u also

Go Cal Bears

No , I don't think that he's better than he actually is . And you think that because he has problems with Batman Wolverine beats him in all rounds ?

Do you even know what Deathstroke can do ?



Actually I do .

Wolverine 7/10

Round 1: Slade or Logan
Round 2: Slade
Round 3: Logan

Wolverine is a hack and slash brawler. He's a feral fighter who relies heavily on his healing factor. He's never shown any skill that would be on par with the likes of Capt. America, Iron Fist, Batman, Taskmaster, etc.

Deathstroke beats him in all three rounds.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Logan wins every round readily.

what the hell is deathstroke gunna do in the 3rd round? Nothing.

Second round again is melee combat which again deathstroke is completely screwed.

first round h2h............Logan is the superior fighter with superior healing............how is he supose to lsoe the magarity here?


trick your beign rediculous...........and if you even try to use deathstroke tagging flash as evidence im gunna cry with laughter.

Dude calm down. Your sounding like a fanboy.

But yes I think Wolvy takes it.

I have ****ing had it with the Wolverine wanking.

I'm going to prove once and for all, that he is outclassed against Deathstroke.

Originally posted by long pig
Slade is seemingly stronger. Strength of 100 men is more than his bio, but.....bios don't matter. This feat would put Slade somewhere near 8-10 ton level
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/895/deathstrokestrength9kq.th.jpg

He can move at the speed of his thought process, which is 10x normal human. So, pretty fast. Reacting at his speed of thought would give him reflexes beyond people like Quicksilver.
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/683/dsphoefeat3lp.th.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9016/deathstrokeannual03122pl.th.jpg

Slade is damn fast. He gets sneak blitzed by Kid Flash. He took as second to realize wtf was going on, but when he did, he was able to move with KF's punch, then to kick him and K.O him.
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3742/teentitans5pyratep02034iv.th.jpg

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
Durability feat: Dude gets at least 40 rounds from a big ass anti-tank machine gun straight into the chest, point blank. He still has enough umf to **** the guy up.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4844/sladedurable4xa.th.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9670/sladedurable21wr.th.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/66/sladedurable36kr.th.jpg

Again, Trickster, posting a respect thread does absolutely NOTHING to make your point.

A bunch of premises mean nothing without a valid logical form to 'shell' them.

Originally posted by Soljer
Again, Trickster, posting a respect thread does absolutely NOTHING to make your point.

A bunch of premises mean nothing without a valid logical form to 'shell' them.

Very well then. Slade is more hardcore, (he's depowered in these scans)

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
Here, he is blindsided by a ton of men in heavy armor with huge guns....he kicks the shit out of 'em and take their guns.....they all die.
Slade says "I'm a goddam killing machine!" (still depowered)
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/9134/sladedie14dz.th.jpg
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1222/sladedie22bn.th.jpghttp://img459.imageshack.us/img459/8596/sladedie34jd.th.jpghttp://img459.imageshack.us/img459/3205/sladedie42mv.th.jpghttp://img459.imageshack.us/img459/8483/sladedie58uw.th.jpg

more agile,

http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladesuperman7yh.jpg

better tactician,

Originally posted by Skeets
Slade Owning Hal and then dropping a building on aquaman Thanks to lucid for these scans.
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/7987/aquamanvsdeathstroke015cu.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/9315/aquamanvsdeathstroke027jv.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2118/aquamanvsdeathstroke036gr.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1908/aquamanvsdeathstroke049le.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4844/aquamanvsdeathstroke057wg.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8687/aquamanvsdeathstroke062oi.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5034/aquamanvsdeathstroke079ve.jpg

faster,

Originally posted by long pig
Another speed feat. He again explains that he moves faster than the speed of thought.
Slade even tells Changling that before his brain could send a nerve inpulse to move his finger, he could take him out.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2695/newtitansv206220rougherun0.th.jpg

and all around better fighter.

Better, but...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Very well then. Slade is more hardcore, (he's depowered in these scans)


Argument from bias. "He's cooler, so he'll win!"

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

more agile,

http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladesuperman7yh.jpg
Nothing Daredevil couldn't do. .


Originally posted by TricksterPriest
better tactician,

Good thing Slade doesn't have a building to drop on Logan.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest

faster,


Speeds of thought vary. For example, Magneto can think fifteen times faster than an average human. Captain America's cognition is fast enough to see bullets in slow motion. Danny Rand can think fast enough to snatch a bullet out of the air.

Damn near every street leveller is faster than 'the speed of thought.'


Originally posted by TricksterPriest
and all around better fighter.

And you didn't even back this one up. Beating shang-chi > getting tooled by the green arrow.

Originally posted by Soljer
Again, Trickster, posting a respect thread does absolutely NOTHING to make your point.

A bunch of premises mean nothing without a valid logical form to 'shell' them.
Co-signed.

See that's your problem Trick, you take a look at a respect thread and you use that to make your assessment of the character. That's bad enough, but then you expect everyone else to draw the same conclusions that you do. What you have to understand is that it's not a characters high end showings that decide who wins in a fight, it's the AVERAGE showing that matters. If you'd learn to look BEYOND the respect threads(which are notorious for focusing on the high end and taking things out of context) and look at how the character is actually portrayed in comics, you wouldn't have so many people giving you a hard time .

Wolverine FTW in every round.

Damn bottem of the page...

Originally posted by Soljer
Again, Trickster, posting a respect thread does absolutely NOTHING to make your point.

A bunch of premises mean nothing without a valid logical form to 'shell' them.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Co-signed.

See that's your problem Trick, you take a look at a respect thread and you use that to make your assessment of the character. That's bad enough, but then you expect everyone else to draw the same conclusions that you do. What you have to understand is that it's not a characters high end showings that decide who wins in a fight, it's the AVERAGE showing that matters. If you'd learn to look BEYOND the respect threads(which are notorious for focusing on the high end and taking things out of context) and look at how the character is actually portrayed in comics, you wouldn't have so many people giving you a hard time .

Originally posted by Soljer
Better, but...



Argument from bias. "He's cooler, so he'll win!"

Nothing Daredevil couldn't do. .



Good thing Slade doesn't have a building to drop on Logan.

Speeds of thought vary. For example, Magneto can think fifteen times faster than an average human. Captain America's cognition is fast enough to see bullets in slow motion. Danny Rand can think fast enough to snatch a bullet out of the air.

Damn near every street leveller is faster than 'the speed of thought.'




And you didn't even back this one up. Beating shang-chi > getting tooled by the green arrow.

I have yet to see this beating Shang Chi scan. 2nd, GA had prep, and Slade wanted to be arrested. Not to mention, Natas, the guy who trained Slade, gave Ollie his new skills.

I know they're PIS, but what about the Flash feats? Or the Identity Crisis fight with the JLA?

Originally posted by long pig
He's faster than Starfire's Starbolts, in fact she says he moves around them as if they were stading still.

Her bolts were shown to exceed the speed of sound and more.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7083/newteentitans01011xk0.th.jpg

His healing factor is almost as rediculous as Wolverine's.
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstroke5203ha0.jpg

He doesn't have to breathe......

Originally posted by long pig
Apparently, Slade doesn't...need to actually breath to survive.
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/7636/sladebreath7de.th.jpg

And of course, JOBBER POWER!!! vin

Originally posted by Skeets
fear the aura....
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3073/identitycrisis3pg042hp9rr.th.jpg
........
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/9729/identitycrisis3pg057th4it.th.jpg

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/5541/identitycrisis3pg067ib4sk.th.jpg

I admit the arguement from bias. But the fact remains that Wolverine has never had to fight guys like the JLA, Batman, etc.

Slade consistently wins against odds that are quite frankly, insane.

Originally posted by Skeets
..........
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/6258/identitycrisis3pg070jt8sn.th.jpg

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/9973/identitycrisis3pg085mj6cl.th.jpg

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/1156/identitycrisis3pg092gg5eb.th.jpg

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/2377/identitycrisis3pg102lj1pe.th.jpg

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/6803/identitycrisis3pg116uq0fc.th.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/509/identitycrisis3pg128mm1hh.th.jpg

The stronger part is easily proven. Faster, maybe you can debate that. More skilled, Slade. I have seen nothing from Wolverine that justifies his being top tier.

And since we are using these guys at their best, why shouldn't the high feat determine who wins? Slade is consistently written as outclassing most Street levelers.

Trickster, please PWN Capt and shut down his Wolverine fanboylust once and for all. thank you.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And since we are using these guys at their best, why shouldn't the high feat determine who wins? Slade is consistently written as outclassing most Street levelers.
Because if you go by high end feats only, then guys like Surfer and Supes are capable of taking down abstract level characters, and guys like Deathstroke and Spiderman are capable of taking down herald level characters.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because if you go by high end feats only, then guys like Surfer and Supes are capable of taking down abstract level characters, and guys like Deathstroke and Spiderman are capable of taking down herald level characters.

you have to go by CONSISTENT showings...ie if SPiderman only ONCE pwned a herald, its not useful. But if he's done it 3 or more times, then you have a point.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because if you go by high end feats only, then guys like Surfer and Supes are capable of taking down abstract level characters, and guys like Deathstroke and Spiderman are capable of taking down herald level characters.

Give Slade prep time and that staff of his........

I get the point, but Slade has more than enough feats to put him over Wolverine.

Why the hell is the canuck getting wanked so much? srsly

Originally posted by masterbruce
you have to go by CONSISTENT showings...ie if SPiderman only ONCE pwned a herald, its not useful. But if he's done it 3 or more times, then you have a point.
Spiderman only put down Firelord once(that much is true), but he's also gotten wins over Juggernaut and Absorbing Man, and he's also taken on Masterson Thor and even Surfer before .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Spiderman only put down Firelord once(that much is true), but he's also gotten wins over Juggernaut and Absorbing Man, and he's also taken on Masterson Thor and even Surfer before .

but doesn't he win usually with environmental stuff...ie cement, etc? so i guess that proves that spiderman is ingenious in using battlefield advantage to survive against more powerful foes, but it doesnt mean he's more powerful

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Give Slade prep time and that staff of his........

I get the point, but Slade has more than enough feats to put him over Wolverine.

Why the hell is the canuck getting wanked so much? srsly
I'll admit that Slade has some impressive feats to his credit, but enough to give him the concrete majority over Wolverine....




You have to remember that Wolverine's high end feats include things like going toe to toe with Gladiator for three days....

Originally posted by masterbruce
but doesn't he win usually with environmental stuff...ie cement, etc? so i guess that proves that spiderman is ingenious in using battlefield advantage to survive against more powerful foes, but it doesnt mean he's more powerful
No environmental stuff for any of them other than Juggs actually. He just took them on strait up...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Give Slade prep time and that staff of his........


You gave him neither in this thread.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I get the point, but Slade has more than enough feats to put him over Wolverine.

Why the hell is the canuck getting wanked so much? srsly

Because, Slade DOESN'T have the feats to put him over Wolverine.

They're both immortal, but Logan heals at a rate that is so much faster that it isn't funny.

They're both skilled, but Logan's so much moreso that it isn't funny.

They're both fast, but neither is conclusively faster.

They're both strong, but many who actually know the character (Deathstroke) for what he is compare his strength to Captain America's. .

Not Spiderman's.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I admit the arguement from bias. But the fact remains that Wolverine has never had to fight guys like the JLA, Batman, etc.

Slade consistently wins against odds that are quite frankly, insane.



The stronger part is easily proven. Faster, maybe you can debate that. More skilled, Slade. I have seen nothing from Wolverine that justifies his being top tier. Questions arise... like, do you even know who Wolverine is?

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Questions arise... like, do you even know who Wolverine is?

Co-signed.

trickster did actaully what I new it would. He went straight to long pigs respect thread which to be honest is a good respect thread but long pig over states slades abilities.

For one thing slade had one arc with a good healing factor in honesty his healing factor is crap compared to logans.

He a good fighter yup, but again his fighting skill can not even campared to Logans.

His experience againc an not compare to Logans.

His combat speed and reflex are roughly equal.

His strength..........well it pritty much capt level ecpt for one feat which would put him in the 50 Ton mark............so im gunna go and assume he capt level strength.

as for master bruce................trick aint gunna pwn shit.


He simply posted things ive debate before. Hell all he doing is being another middar..........and you can look up how that ended in an unofficial match vs me.

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Wolverine is a hack and slash brawler. He's a feral fighter who relies heavily on his healing factor. He's never shown any skill that would be on par with the likes of Capt. America, Iron Fist, Batman, Taskmaster, etc.

Deathstroke beats him in all three rounds.
really since you know he beat capt..........while in a weaken state.


You don't read wolverine do you?

Originally posted by masterbruce
Trickster, please PWN Capt and shut down his Wolverine fanboylust once and for all. thank you.
hey how about you stop being a wimp and verse me in the battle zone?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
trickster did actaully what I new it would.

Reported

Originally posted by Battlehammer
hey how about you stop being a wimp and verse me in the battle zone?

I will take you on in the battlezone, once I find a suitable character to debate for.

I'm not interested in representing Thing.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Give Slade prep time and that staff of his........

I get the point, but Slade has more than enough feats to put him over Wolverine.

Why the hell is the canuck getting wanked so much? srsly
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/deadpool-1.jpg

Originally posted by Battlehammer
trickster did actaully what I new it would. He went straight to long pigs respect thread which to be honest is a good respect thread but long pig over states slades abilities.

For one thing slade had one arc with a good healing factor in honesty his healing factor is crap compared to logans.

He a good fighter yup, but again his fighting skill can not even campared to Logans.

His experience againc an not compare to Logans.

His combat speed and reflex are roughly equal.

His strength..........well it pritty much capt level ecpt for one feat which would put him in the 50 Ton mark............so im gunna go and assume he capt level strength.

as for master bruce................trick aint gunna pwn shit.


He simply posted things ive debate before. Hell all he doing is being another middar..........and you can look up how that ended in an unofficial match vs me.

blah blah blah...wolverine is DA SHIT...blah blah blah...DS is crap...blah blah blah

gee, your arguments are SOooooo convincing

Originally posted by masterbruce
blah blah blah...wolverine is DA SHIT...blah blah blah...DS is crap...blah blah blah

gee, your arguments are SOooooo convincing

*flames masterbruce*

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
*flames masterbruce*

Flamer.....

Anyways...i'm gonna go ahead and say that Slade would win against Wolverine for various reasons which have already been stated.

Question: Where there any circumstances surrounding the times Slade has taken on the TeenTitans? Or, alternately, is doing so not a feat that puts him over Wolverine?

i would think wolverine wins this

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because if you go by high end feats only, then guys like Surfer and Supes are capable of taking down abstract level characters, and guys like Deathstroke and Spiderman are capable of taking down herald level characters.

That is were PIS comes in. Forum rules say that one must fight at their best.
So one should only use high showings that don't contradict lower ones or are not PIS. And one cannot use low showings that contradict the non PIS high ones.

This is a hella match.
With the best of my non-bias view I see no way Logan is beating Slade in round 2. I mean that sword with Slade's strength can probably cut through adamantium (I don't know though). One can go either way in round 1 but I don't know how well wolverine can fight h2h without claws other than bios. I don't know who would win in 3. I would pay to see this fight though.

Originally posted by h1a8
That is were PIS comes in. Forum rules say that one must fight at their best.
So one should only use high showings that don't contradict lower ones or are not PIS. And one cannot use low showings that contradict the non PIS high ones.
I never said any differently. All I said was that if you go by high end feats ONLY then guys like Surfer and Supes are capable of taking down abstract level characters, and guys like Deathstroke and Spiderman are capable of taking down herald level characters. That's basically the same thing you said because I was addressing instances of PIS which I felt shouldn't become the focal point of a debate. It's the characters AVERAGE showing that determines what constitutes PIS, which is why I suggested going by the average rather than the high end.

Originally posted by masterbruce
blah blah blah...wolverine is DA SHIT...blah blah blah...DS is crap...blah blah blah

gee, your arguments are SOooooo convincing
..................ya nice debating skills.


what I stated was fact.


If deathstroke had prep he would win given he one tough mother ****er with prep.

But in these matches he has no prep.

All these matches heavily favor Logan becuase they will be entering melee combat.

Logan superior damage soaking and fighting skills play a major role in this type of combat.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I will take you on in the battlezone, once I find a suitable character to debate for.

I'm not interested in representing Thing.
I cant wait .

it be fun to put you in your place.

Even I say Wolverine wins...

Plus, how do you put trash back in its place?

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Even I say Wolverine wins...

Plus, how do you put trash back in its place?
hahahaha masterbruce was pwned

Originally posted by Battlehammer
hahahaha masterbruce was pwned

how exactly was I pwned?

becuase he called you trash..............


did that real just go over your head?

man pick your character allready. Im sick of the stalling.

Wow I was gunna ask if this was to be an official match, but then i remeber, no one in there right mind would ask you or let you be on there team.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Question: Where there any circumstances surrounding the times Deathstroke has taken on the TeenTitans? Or, alternately, is doing so not a feat that puts him over Wolverine?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

he had either one sided prep

or every one on the team job to him like GL trying to go h2h verse slade...........instead of simply blasting him

Originally posted by h1a8
This is a hella match.
With the best of my non-bias view I see no way Logan is beating Slade in round 2. I mean that sword with Slade's strength can probably cut through adamantium (I don't know though). One can go either way in round 1 but I don't know how well wolverine can fight h2h without claws other than bios. I don't know who would win in 3. I would pay to see this fight though.

Slade can't cut adamantium. Wolverine's BS healing factor might get him the win, but a KO is technically a win, so Slade would win under that rule.

2 goes to Slade.

Round 3 is dicey. That sword is very powerful.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Questions arise... like, do you even know who Wolverine is?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
becuase he called you trash..............


did that real just go over your head?



ummm how did you get that he called me trash?

Originally posted by masterbruce
ummm how did you get that he called me trash?

.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Slade can't cut adamantium. Wolverine's BS healing factor might get him the win, but a KO is technically a win, so Slade would win under that rule.

2 goes to Slade.

Round 3 is dicey. That sword is very powerful.

were did you come to these conclusions again?

Originally posted by Soljer
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wow it actaully went over his head lol

.

Originally posted by masterbruce
that's just big bran being bran

he says random stuff

ie. he talks about chocolate and peanut butter in his thread for no reason

so that wasn't a comment about me

good try, but you fail
No, that was definitely a comment about you.

hahahahaahahahha.

nice little edit you go there masterrbuce............


by the way I did not fail you did.

The biased for Wolverine in this thread is so obvious it's not even funny

Im really not sure who wins. But Wolverine is capable of winning all three. DS has a good shoinwg against Batman in H2H so he should be able to give Wolverine some trouble there, but Wolverine could still win it.

Im verging towards Wolverine.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You have to remember that Wolverine's high end feats include things like going toe to toe with Gladiator for three days....

Oh come ON , so we cant accept Slade using his will to overpower a GL's. But we CAN accept Wolverine going toe-to-toe with a Superman level character for 3 days !

I smell bullshit.

Originally posted by grey fox
Oh come ON , so we cant accept Slade using his will to overpower a GL's. But we CAN accept Wolverine going toe-to-toe with a Superman level character for 3 days !

I smell bullshit.

I think it was 6 days and it was in the 23rd century so it doesnt count. Mutants sometimes get more powerful the longer thay have their power so we could assume that was what happened.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I think it was 6 days and it was in the 23rd century so it doesnt count. Mutants sometimes get more powerful the longer thay have their power so we could assume that was what happened.

I doubt his HF would let him live that long. The constant fan-wankery however probably would.

Originally posted by grey fox
I doubt his HF would let him live that long. The constant fan-wankery however probably would.

Well his HF isnt far off from the way the Olympians immortality works. they heal from anything except decapitation.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
first round h2h............Logan is the superior fighter with superior healing............how is he supose to lsoe the magarity here?

The magarity, who will win it?

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Originally posted by grey fox
Oh come ON , so we cant accept Slade using his will to overpower a GL's. But we CAN accept Wolverine going toe-to-toe with a Superman level character for 3 days !

I smell bullshit.
Nice to see you got the point of his statement.

btw, the Wolverine/Gladiator fight isn't canon. If it was, you'd also have to accept that Glads can break primary adamantium.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well his HF isnt far off from the way the Olympians immortality works. they heal from anything except decapitation.

Logan has healed from decapition..........


also greyfox.........Logan could clearly live that long.

Hell Logan actaul lie span do to recarnation is like in the thousands

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
The biased for Wolverine in this thread is so obvious it's not even funny
bias for wolverine?

Give us one good reason why slade takes the majority vs a man who has superior fighting skill and superior healing?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Logan has healed from decapition..........


also greyfox.........Logan could clearly live that long.

Hell Logan actaul lie span do to recarnation is like in the thousands

When did Logan ever heal from having his head chopped clear off?

In wolrd war two while spendign time in a concentration camp. Issue number 51 if not mistaken written by miller. Came out roughly a year or two ago.

Scans please.

don't have a scanner. It was never shown, but stated in the text.

Jinzin? If anyone can get me the page you can.

Wolverine wins

Originally posted by Battlehammer
don't have a scanner. It was never shown, but stated in the text.

so there's not much proof then.

what does the text say exactly?

Originally posted by masterbruce
so there's not much proof then.

what does the text say exactly?
not much prove...............It was directly stated.

I was something like we tried every thing to kill him, we burned him, we shot him, we even decapitated him. It was also implied to be more thne once.

not sure how having it dirrectly stated in the text means there not much proof..............

Originally posted by Battlehammer
not much prove...............It was directly stated.

I was something like we tried every thing to kill him, we burned him, we shot him, we even decapitated him. It was also implied to be more thne once.

not sure how having it dirrectly stated in the text means there not much proof..............

hyperbole?

Spiderman said Sentry stalemated Galactus...but that's not taken without a grain of salt since there's no onpanel proof

Originally posted by Battlehammer
not much prove...............It was directly stated.

I was something like we tried every thing to kill him, we burned him, we shot him, we even decapitated him. It was also implied to be more thne once.

not sure how having it dirrectly stated in the text means there not much proof..............

btw this directly contradicts what Professor X said during about bone wolverine

Prof X said the only way to kill Logan was through decapitation

Originally posted by masterbruce
btw this directly contradicts what Professor X said during about bone wolverine

Prof X said the only way to kill Logan was through decapitation
ya and your point? Professor x was wrong it would not be the first time

Originally posted by masterbruce
hyperbole?

Spiderman said Sentry stalemated Galactus...but that's not taken without a grain of salt since there's no onpanel proof

funny thing was when spiderman said that was out of the blue.


The issue in which Logan was stated to had been decapitated was stated by the author. The issue was all about Logans time in the concentration camp.

What your bring up is nothing Like the wolverine issue.

Yes





That's so stupid that it's become rather funny

You need reasons ?

Use your brain .

There's 3 possibilities here .

1.You're biased
2.You don't know much about Deathstroke
3.You aren't smart enough

Originally posted by Battlehammer
ya and your point? Professor x was wrong it would not be the first time

haha so you take the word of a no-name nazi scumbag over the word of Professor X?

stop being such a rabid fanboy!

..........so you have no good reason..........thanks you prove why slade loses with your post.


I know more about slade then you likly know erik.


You also know crap about wolverine.


so how about you get off your high horse and give a single reason for why slade wins the majority in melee confrontations.

Originally posted by masterbruce
haha so you take the word of a no-name nazi scumbag over the word of Professor X?

stop being such a rabid fanboy! That's actually a good point.

Originally posted by masterbruce
haha so you take the word of a no-name nazi scumbag over the word of Professor X?

stop being such a rabid fanboy!

.............how does that make me a fanboy?

Prof x thought this. That did not make it true. Prof x also thought Logans claws were pure adamatium.........shows how much he new.

He knows a lot about wolverine, but not every thing.


That nazi scumbag is the one that had Logan decapitated...........so yes I gunna take the word of a nazi who saw it happen.

you have never even read the issue yet you act as if you have how funny.


You are a sad man truelly.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's actually a good point.
it a shitty point if you read the issue.

but of coruse mister bruce over hear has never read it.

You wouldn't need me to spill out the reasons if you truly would have known what Deathstroke is capable of








Actually I do know what Wolverine is capable off . I'm just not a fanboy like you and can't admit he loses .



No need to do that since everybody who has knowledge of Deathstroke knows that he wins . The other category are those who don't have it and the fanboys .

It's not a matter of taking someone's word over another. The people keeping Wolverine in containment actually DID try to kill him using a varitey of ways, decapitation included.

None of it worked.

Originally posted by Accel
It's not a matter of taking someone's word over another. The people keeping Wolverine in containment actually DID try to kill him using a varitey of ways, decapitation included.

None of it worked.
correct

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
You wouldn't need me to spill out the reasons if you truly would have known what Deathstroke is capable of








Actually I do know what Wolverine is capable off . I'm just not a fanboy like you and can't admit he loses .



No need to do that since everybody who has knowledge of Deathstroke knows that he wins . The other category are those who don't have it and the fanboys .

so you have no arguement...........


all any one hearing form you is blah blah blah blah im a deathstroke fanboy blah blah I hate wolverine blah blah.



give a good reason instead of running away from the question

I don't need to show them since it's obvious Deathstroke is superior



Too bad I'm not a Deathstroke fanboy and Wolverine is in my top 5 favorite Marvel characters .



You mean besides the fact that Deathstroke is pretty much superior in every aspect involving fighting except probably the healing factor ?

I'm not really bothering to show scans or elaborate this because it's obvious you are a fanboy .

I read that issue Battlehammer.

Wolverine came back day after day until the man finally killed himself. I don't recall any mention of decapitation though and seeing as you made the claim, it's up to you to prove it.

Originally posted by llagrok
I read that issue Battlehammer.

Wolverine came back day after day until the man finally killed himself. I don't recall any mention of decapitation though and seeing as you made the claim, it's up to you to prove it.
really you read the issue? i have my doubts since both me and accel saw it clearly in teh text.

I already gave the issue number title and author. Go and re read the issue then becuase you memory clearly is not very good.

Miller worked on Wolverine a year ago?

Issue 51?

Wrong and wrong.

MillAr might've worked on Wolverine a while ago during Agent of Hydra, but MillEr hasn't worked on Wolverine in ages. So please, where the **** do you get off insulting my memory when all you have is nothing but bullshit mixed with wrong and fanboyism?

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I don't need to show them since it's obvious Deathstroke is superior



Too bad I'm not a Deathstroke fanboy and Wolverine is in my top 5 favorite Marvel characters .



You mean besides the fact that Deathstroke is pretty much superior in every aspect involving fighting except probably the healing factor ?

I'm not really bothering to show scans or elaborate this because it's obvious you are a fanboy .

again you ignroe the question.



probably healing? and you telling me im the fanboy? it not even up for debate, Logan healing factor is clearly superior by a large margin.


Logan figthing skill is top tier.............deathstroke is 2nd tier at best.


reflexes there equal, same with combat speed.

strength..........well besdes for one feat of detahstroke all the others are well within Logan strength class.

Originally posted by llagrok
Miller worked on Wolverine a year ago?

Issue 51?

Wrong and wrong.

I pritty sure it issue 51 maybe it was 52.


It was written by miller.

It was written after enemy of the state if not mistaken.

really why am I wrong?

**** it when i go home this weekend I quote the entire issue for you just to prove your ass wrong.

Not really



Who said his healing wasn't superior ?





That is gold



And the stupidity demonstration continues ..



And another demonstration ...


That post just proved to me that there is no point in continuing discussing with you

OK What Volume what year and what issue. Then I will try to find the scans.

If I can get CD Display working I will post them.

Sheesh...

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4193/wolverinehealinghk3.th.jpg

Carefully read the text in the middle, where it mentions "beheadings."

Its proof right there. He can come back without his head. Back from the dead that is.

I think he just came back to life after being killed that's all. We all know his healing factor can heal it, but wont change the fact about him dying.

Originally posted by Accel
Sheesh...

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4193/wolverinehealinghk3.th.jpg

Carefully read the text in the middle, where it mentions "beheadings."
thank you

is that issue 51 or 52 could not remeber which number it was

Originally posted by Battlehammer
thank you

is that issue 51 or 52 could not remeber which number it was That was a cool issue, the one were he drove the dude crazy by just keeping on coming back.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Not really



Who said his healing wasn't superior ?





That is gold



And the stupidity demonstration continues ..



And another demonstration ...


That post just proved to me that there is no point in continuing discussing with you

again all talk no evdience.

Ok who has slade taken in pure skill..........wait lets see night wing and batman both give deathstroke huge fights becuase..........ding ding dign there more skilled.

Logan has beat people like DD,shang-chi and so forth in matches of skill.

what deathstroke done?

speed and reflexes what has DS done beyond wolverine........and please do not even attempt to say hitting flash........which batman has done.

strength........DS only real impressive feat is the one were he picks up the massive wire...........which would put him at 50 tons...........to bad all his other feats put him at a few tons at best.............so that clearly a pis feat is it not?

so please.

your arguement is a joke. You have yet to give any reasons.

all you say is that im a fanboy..........yet you don't explain why and if you notice no one is agreeing with you...........

Originally posted by llagrok
Miller worked on Wolverine a year ago?

Issue 51?

Wrong and wrong.

MillAr might've worked on Wolverine a while ago during Agent of Hydra, but MillEr hasn't worked on Wolverine in ages. So please, where the **** do you get off insulting my memory when all you have is nothing but bullshit mixed with wrong and fanboyism? He did a one shot issue.

Originally posted by Juntai
That was a cool issue, the one were he drove the dude crazy by just keeping on coming back.
ya I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Originally posted by Juntai
He did a one shot issue.
correct which was after his agent of shield run.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

That post just proved to me that there is no point in continuing discussing with you He won't concede about anything involving Wolverine. You can make points, but he has his own opinion and sticks to it.

Originally posted by Juntai
He won't concede about anything involving Wolverine. You can make points, but he has his own opinion and sticks to it.
oh no I will concede if they can prove there points.

For example I no longer think wolverine defeats gambit the majority well given location of battle.


I will concede if the points are valid and backed by evidence.

Ive conceded more then once.

Alright, I believe it. Wolverine's healing factor is completely rediculous.

I don't think Slade can kill him permanently, but he can certainly get a forum kill or incapacitate him. Slade's beating the TT isn't PIS, it's CIS. Slade himself says they could beat him if they fought as a team. It's their own fault for trying to brawl with him.

And someone show me the Shang-Chi fight.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Alright, I believe it. Wolverine's healing factor is completely rediculous.

I don't think Slade can kill him permanently, but he can certainly get a forum kill or incapacitate him. Slade's beating the TT isn't PIS, it's CIS. Slade himself says they could beat him if they fought as a team. It's their own fault for trying to brawl with him.

And someone show me the Shang-Chi fight.
....................slade could do that, but will he ? Not likly.

Given the matches and how there set up your forcing slade to melee with Logan and frankling slade can cut it. He can't melee verse Logan and hope to get any majority.

TT acted like morron freaking any one could have done that. And some of them acted pritty dam out of character.


I can give you the issue number and title.

or you could find it in the wolverine respect thread.

Logan beats him in like 5 pannels I believe.

Originally posted by grey fox
Oh come ON , so we cant accept Slade using his will to overpower a GL's. But we CAN accept Wolverine going toe-to-toe with a Superman level character for 3 days !

I smell bullshit.

Grey Fox had it right, there's some serious wolverine wankery going on in this thread.

hE DIDN'T DEFAT sHANG cHI. hE THOUGHT HIM HAND TO AHND TILL HE GOT HIM ON THE FLOOR THEN QUICKLEY PULLED OUT HIS CLAWS. sHANG

Shit Caps.

Anyway Shang was unhurt and the only reason it ended was because of the claws. No win really.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Grey Fox had it right, there's some serious wolverine wankery going on in this thread.
are you an idiot..........

darth used that to show that wolverine also has pis showings and neither should be used.


man you and grey fox.................could not comprhend such an easy thing.


also no ones wankign anything it a fact deathstroke is not Logan better or even equal in melee combat. Now if he had his powerstaff he win, but with just his sword.........he ****ed.

Originally posted by Juntai
That was a cool issue, the one were he drove the dude crazy by just keeping on coming back.

I read it, but it can't have been 51 or 52.

Doesn't matter though, it's been stated many times that Wolverine would be killed if he was decapitated.

Originally posted by Mr Majestic
hE DIDN'T DEFAT sHANG cHI. hE THOUGHT HIM HAND TO AHND TILL HE GOT HIM ON THE FLOOR THEN QUICKLEY PULLED OUT HIS CLAWS. sHANG

Shit Caps.

Anyway Shang was unhurt and the only reason it ended was because of the claws. No win really.

having some one completely defensless and at your mercy is not winning..................are you serious.

any one on the forum will tell you that a clear cut win.

Originally posted by llagrok
I read it, but it can't have been 51 or 52.

oh shit.........it may have been 31. ****ing numbers just so many of them I lose track after awhile. I mean I think wolverine alone has like 5 issue 51's lol.

Originally posted by llagrok

Doesn't matter though, it's been stated many times that Wolverine would be killed if he was decapitated.
did you not read the scann..........it clearly states decapitation will not work........


also it been stated many times........how the hell would you know? you don't even read wolverine.


It was stated once as a possiable answer to kill Logan not that it would. also we all know killing wolverine does not mean he will stay dead.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
having some one completely defensless and at your mercy is not winning..................are you serious.

any one on the forum will tell you that a clear cut win. Yes but he needed to use claws to do it. Its a win fine but not a win for his martial art skill.

Originally posted by Mr Majestic
Yes but he needed to use claws to do it. Its a win fine but not a win for his martial art skill.
actaully it was a win due to MMA skill. he completely tossed shang-chi to his mercy using mma skill............if you don't realize that then your a fool.

I'm a fool?

He was not knocked out, he was unhurt he was down but if Logan hadn't pulled his claws what would have stopped him from reversing it.

He used claws to end it, Shang had nothing. If you really think pulling claws out to win a fight is impressive then..your a fool.

Seriously fool?? Your acting like a child, please stop typing like one.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully it was a win due to MMA skill. he completely tossed shang-chi to his mercy using mma skill............if you don't realize that then your a fool.

your wanking of Logan is getting more and more ridiculous

Originally posted by masterbruce
your wanking of Logan is getting more and more ridiculous
Your constant following Capt in every thread and jumping on his dick is also getting very ridiculous.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully it was a win due to MMA skill. he completely tossed shang-chi to his mercy using mma skill............if you don't realize that then your a fool.

For the record, I do a bit of mixed martial arts on the side, and really enjoy brazilian jiu jitsu. I can put my 'betters' on their asses and put a knife to their throat(especially if I surprise them) - doesn't mean they wouldn't beat me in a straight up fight.

Saying that that 'fight' is evidence of Wolverine being far and away more skilled than Shang Chi is like saying that the Punisher pulling a gun on Winter Soldier is evidence that he's more skilled than Bucky.

Originally posted by Soljer
For the record, I do a bit of mixed martial arts on the side, and really enjoy brazilian jiu jitsu. I can put my 'betters' on their asses and put a knife to their throat(especially if I surprise them) - doesn't mean they wouldn't beat me in a straight up fight.

Saying that that 'fight' is evidence of Wolverine being far and away more skilled than Shang Chi is like saying that the Punisher pulling a gun on Winter Soldier is evidence that he's more skilled than Bucky.

I still haven't seen scans of that fight.

And probably a stupid question, but how good IS Bucky?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I still haven't seen scans of that fight.

And probably a stupid question, but how good IS Bucky?

Originally posted by jinzin
X-Men.. I THINK around issue 62-64...

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Shang-Chi
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Wolverine easily hands Shang Chi his ass on a platter:
1. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6830/shangchi1nx1.jpg
2. http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/284/shangchi2af8.jpg
3. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2512/shangchi3eu5.jpg

Captain America said his natural talent was unparalleled. Or something along those lines.

Pretty high praise, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Soljer
For the record, I do a bit of mixed martial arts on the side, and really enjoy brazilian jiu jitsu. I can put my 'betters' on their asses and put a knife to their throat(especially if I surprise them) - doesn't mean they wouldn't beat me in a straight up fight.

Saying that that 'fight' is evidence of Wolverine being far and away more skilled than Shang Chi is like saying that the Punisher pulling a gun on Winter Soldier is evidence that he's more skilled than Bucky.

ugg I did not mean it like that. I ment it in the sense it was a feat of skill.

what punisher did was quite a bit different. punisher was getting pwned and pulled a gun. Logan dropped shang-chi to a position that made him helpless.


So it not the same.

also it does not prove Logan is way beyond shang-chi, but it shows he was better in the fight and showing why he a top tier.

It was never ment to prove he was way beyond shang-chi or even beyond him for that matter.

It was to prove he beyond slade.

Originally posted by Soljer
Captain America said his natural talent was unparalleled. Or something along those lines.

Pretty high praise, in my opinion.

Cap would seem to be a biased source imo. Also, is Bucky just normal human or did he receive any enhancements?

Originally posted by Soljer
For the record, I do a bit of mixed martial arts on the side, and really enjoy brazilian jiu jitsu. I can put my 'betters' on their asses and put a knife to their throat(especially if I surprise them) - doesn't mean they wouldn't beat me in a straight up fight.

Saying that that 'fight' is evidence of Wolverine being far and away more skilled than Shang Chi is like saying that the Punisher pulling a gun on Winter Soldier is evidence that he's more skilled than Bucky. Exactly.

And I'M the fool.

Don't you make your snide comments.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
ugg I did not mean it like that. I ment it in the sense it was a feat of skill.

what punisher did was quite a bit different. punisher was getting pwned and pulled a gun. Logan dropped shang-chi to a position that made him helpless.


So it not the same.

also it does not prove Logan is way beyond shang-chi, but it shows he was better in the fight and showing why he a top tier.

It was never ment to prove he was way beyond shang-chi or even beyond him for that matter.

It was to prove he beyond slade.

Oh, most certainly - I know that Wolverine is a top tier martial artist.

Just saying that I don't think he's necessarily on a level beyond Shang Chi. I think he used a great stratagem, and also took advantage of Shang's surprise in a very effective way.

It's just when I hear things like "Wolverine is the best fighter in the Marvel Universe! He stomped Shang Chi in four panels on skill alone!" it becomes a wee bit tiresome.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Cap would seem to be a biased source imo. Also, is Bucky just normal human or did he receive any enhancements?
...............honestly you creep me out..........you fallow me into threads............it wierd...........and im not the only one that notices.........it.


bucky a normal human with a metal arm. He been trained by the same people as capt

Originally posted by masterbruce
Cap would seem to be a biased source imo. Also, is Bucky just normal human or did he receive any enhancements?
That was before Captain America worked along side Bucky.

It was when bucky was first 'chosen' to BE bucky.

Originally posted by Soljer
Oh, most certainly - I know that Wolverine is a top tier martial artist.

Just saying that I don't think he's necessarily on a level beyond Shang Chi. I think he used a great stratagem, and also took advantage of Shang's surprise in a very effective way.

It's just when I hear things like "Wolverine is the best fighter in the Marvel Universe! He stomped Shang Chi in four panels on skill alone!" it becomes a wee bit tiresome.
true

Originally posted by Battlehammer
...............honestly you creep me out..........you fallow me into threads............it wierd...........and im not the only one that notices.........it.


bucky a normal human with a metal arm. He been trained by the same people as capt I noticed as well.

He tells people to own you, but then insults you instead of debating.

You called me a fool for no reason but at least your debating and not following someone around.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
...............honestly you creep me out..........you fallow me into threads............it wierd...........and im not the only one that notices.........it.


bucky a normal human with a metal arm. He been trained by the same people as capt

i don't follow you into threads...what the hell are you talking about. I post in a lot of threads that you never post in. BUT I'm also into these streetlevel threads where you post alot, and I like to point out your fanboyishness

Originally posted by Mr Majestic
I noticed as well.

He tells people to own you, but then insults you instead of debating.

You called me a fool for no reason but at least your debating and not following someone around.

ya a fool was kidna harsh that my bad it was kinda due to bruce over here annoying me sorry

Originally posted by masterbruce
i don't follow you into threads...what the hell are you talking about. I post in a lot of threads that you never post in. BUT I'm also into these streetlevel threads where you post alot, and I like to point out your fanboyishness All you point out is your a hater and pretty sad sorry.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
ya a fool was kidna harsh that my bad it was kinda due to bruce over here annoying me sorry No problem, all forgotten. The guy seems annoying.

Originally posted by masterbruce
i don't follow you into threads...what the hell are you talking about. I post in a lot of threads that you never post in. BUT I'm also into these streetlevel threads where you post alot, and I like to point out your fanboyishness

You try your best to insult Battlehammer in a very rude manner even after you've been directly told to cease and desist by a moderator of this forum.

You're not clever. You're not funny. You're not even pointing anything out - everyone knows that Capt is a Wolverine fan, and most people realize that he's not really a fanboy. He has reasoning for most of the things he argues, and usually it's pretty sound.

He may type like an utter moron at times (such...such...SUCH a pet peeve, capt....) - but he is actually a very reasonable poster, and can even be convinced that he's wrong.

He's admitted that both Gambit and Spiderman take the majority over Wolverine, for example, given certain settings. He will rarely claim that Wolverine wins a fight without having sound evidence to back it up. And, when anyone calls him on being a 'fanboy,' he will almost always challenge them to prove that he's wrong.

Funny that no one ever does.

Originally posted by masterbruce
i don't follow you into threads...what the hell are you talking about. I post in a lot of threads that you never post in. BUT I'm also into these streetlevel threads where you post alot, and I like to point out your fanboyishness


still waiting for the battle zone match..........so I can once and for all make you out to be the morron you are..........not that I have to since you do it your self..........

Originally posted by Mr Majestic
No problem, all forgotten. The guy seems annoying.
he is lol he is.