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This is the guy from the FF/Superman crossover with the power cosmic who Galactus said would make his greatest herald ever vs. Thanos.
Who prevails?

We didn't really see enough feats from the Kryptonian to be certain what he was truly capable of.

Originally posted by Kutulu
We didn't really see enough feats from the Kryptonian to be certain what he was truly capable of.

True.

But merely assuming he's a Superman/Silver Surfer amalgam is more than enough to say that he stomps Thanos.

We know that he has Supermans powers with the
Power Cosmic added on to that.

It's more than enough to beat Thanos.

Originally posted by Sirius77
We know that he has Supermans powers with the
Power Cosmic added on to that.

It's more than enough to beat Thanos. Wasn't Terrax pretty powerful before his cosmic enhancements?
And look at him now, he's probably the lowest herald.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Wasn't Terrax pretty powerful before his cosmic enhancements?
And look at him now, he's probably the lowest herald.

He was nowhere near Superman in strength or physical abilities.

None of the Heralds were.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Wasn't Terrax pretty powerful before his cosmic enhancements?
And look at him now, he's probably the lowest herald.

Nah, he was still fail mixed with axe.

Originally posted by Sirius77
We know that he has Supermans powers with the
Power Cosmic added on to that.

It's more than enough to beat Thanos.

Thats what I was thinking. If he did have any feats they would be insane.

I'll second that.

Originally posted by Sirius77
He was nowhere near Superman in strength or physical abilities.

None of the Heralds were. But him and Firelord were still way more powerful than Norrin Rad... way more.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
But him and Firelord were still way more powerful than Norrin Rad... way more.

What?
Have you read Annihilation?

He meant before Galactus upgraded them. Which is true.

but unfortunately, they're both idiots. doped

Originally posted by Sirius77
What?
Have you read Annihilation? Umm ya... not even relevant.

Have you read Terrax's or Firelord's backstory? Terrax was fighting with Thing before his upgrade, and Firelord was in the Nova Corps.
Compare both of them to a pretty much human, and they are way more powerful.

Oh.

Responding to Trickster.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He meant before Galactus upgraded them. Which is true.

but unfortunately, they're both idiots. doped Which doesn't affect their strength.

Using the logic, that's used in this thread, they should be millions of times more powerful than Surfer. Idiots or not.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Umm ya... not even relevant.

Have you read Terrax's or Firelord's backstory? Terrax was fighting with Thing before his upgrade, and Firelord was in the Nova Corps.
Compare both of them to a pretty much human, and they are way more powerful.

This also is not relevant, because,

Superman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both Firelord and Terrax put together before Galactus gave them the power cosmic.

So, compare Superman to a normal human.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Which doesn't affect their strength.

Using the logic, that's used in this thread, they should be millions of times more powerful than Surfer. Idiots or not.

No, because, Galactus said specifically that he would never make a Herald more powerful than the Surfer. Terrax and Firelord came after the Surfer.

Originally posted by Sirius77
This also is not relevant, because,

Superman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both Firelord and Terrax put together before Galactus gave them the power cosmic.

So, compare Superman to a normal human. Unfortunately...

This should also mean that Firelord, and Terrax should be more powerful than Surfer.

Which, (unless you agree) makes the reasoning for how powerful Supes should be, pretty pointless.

Originally posted by Sirius77
No, because, Galactus said specifically that he would never make a Herald more powerful than the Surfer. Terrax and Firelord came after the Surfer. Not that I recall... but roh-kay.

So, using this logic, Kryptonian isn't more powerful than Surfer.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Unfortunately...

This should also mean that Firelord, and Terrax should be more powerful than Surfer.

Which, (unless you agree) makes the reasoning for how powerful Supes should be, pretty pointless.

Do you know for a fact that would be true?

What makes you think that the power cosmic
would negate his Kryptonian abilities?

Also, Galactus purposely made the Surfer his
most powerful Herald.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Not that I recall... but roh-kay.

So, using this logic, Kryptonian isn't more powerful than Surfer.

No, using this logic, Galactus said himself that
The Kryptonian would be his most powerful
Herald.

thanos pwns the kryptonian.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos pwns the kryptonian.

I dissagree. This is just what Supes needs to get over the hump and beat Thanos decisively.

Originally posted by Sundipped
I dissagree. This is just what Supes needs to get over the hump and beat Thanos decisively. can the kman resist tp?

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Unfortunately...

This should also mean that Firelord, and Terrax should be more powerful than Surfer.

Which, (unless you agree) makes the reasoning for how powerful Supes should be, pretty pointless. it's all a matter of proportions. Galaticus gave surver a larger amount of power cosmic than most of his other heralds

Originally posted by quanchi112
can the kman resist tp?

Very, very, very, very, very, very easily.

Originally posted by Soljer
Very, very, very, very, very, very easily. scans.

Originally posted by quanchi112
scans.

Nope. .

Originally posted by Soljer
Nope. . you nver do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
you nver do.



No, I regularly bring scans to a debate.

Just not when asked by someone who never reciprocates. .

Originally posted by Soljer
No, I regularly bring scans to a debate.

Just not when asked by someone who never reciprocates. . i post scans all the time.

The Kryptonian has the potential to pwn Superman-Prime.

He has the ability to absorb any type of energy. Including solar energy.

He became a semi-abstract entity in All-Star Superman from a million
years in the sun.

Imagine if he absorbed the ENTIRE sun with the power cosmic?

He would at LEAST be an abstract.

Originally posted by Sirius77
The Kryptonian has the potential to pwn Superman-Prime.

He has the ability to absorb any type of energy. Including solar energy.

He became a semi-abstract entity in All-Star Superman from a million
years in the sun.

Imagine if he absorbed the ENTIRE sun with the power cosmic?

He would at LEAST be an abstract. thanos still tp's him for the win.

The Kryptonian pwns Thanos.

Originally posted by Sirius77
The Kryptonian pwns Thanos. nah. thanos almost tp'd galactus the guy who gave superman his upgrade.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos still tp's him for the win.

nah, that wont happen. he'd just ***** slap the kryptonian.

people are over estimating the kryptonian.

thanos manhandless the surfer all the time. and thats basically what the kryptionan is. a physicaly stronger silver surfer wana be.

1+1 is never greater than 3

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
nah, that wont happen. he'd just ***** slap the kryptonian.

people are over estimating the kryptonian.

thanos manhandless the surfer all the time. and thats basically what the kryptionan is. a physicaly stronger silver surfer wana be.

1+1 is never greater than 3 i never said that tp was the only way he could win. thanos is above the kman here. thanos wins this all day. he could just beat him down like he does with the silver surfer.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
nah, that wont happen. he'd just ***** slap the kryptonian.

people are over estimating the kryptonian.

thanos manhandless the surfer all the time. and thats basically what the kryptionan is. a physicaly stronger silver surfer wana be.

1+1 is never greater than 3

The Kryptonians strength would be too much for Thanos to
handle. Also, his speed would pwn Thanos the same way
the Runner did.

Originally posted by quanchi112
i never said that tp was the only way he could win. thanos is above the kman here. thanos wins this all day. he could just beat him down like he does with the silver surfer.

yup. just coz supes is given the power cosmic doesnt mean he's suddently above thanos.

like i said 1+1 aint greater than 3

Originally posted by Sirius77
The Kryptonians strength would be too much for Thanos to
handle. Also, his speed would pwn Thanos the same way
the Runner did. since whendid the kman possess speeed like the runner wit the space ge,. oh he didnt did he. thanos wins this all lifetime.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
yup. just coz supes is given the power cosmic doesnt mean he's suddently above thanos.

like i said 1+1 aint greater than 3

Actually he would be greater than Thanos. It might even put him
above skyfather level.

Think about it. His speed, strength and durability would be off
the charts. You see what the power cosmic does to normal
non-powered beings. Imagine if he amped himself in the
slightest. It would be too much for Thanos to handle. It would
be like Tyrant all over again. Or maybe worse.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Actually he would be greater than Thanos. It might even put him
above skyfather level.

Think about it. His speed, strength and durability would be off
the charts. You see what the power cosmic does to normal
non-powered beings. Imagine if he amped himself in the
slightest. It would be too much for Thanos to handle. It would
be like Tyrant all over again. Or maybe worse. have any scans to prove ur theory? i doubt it. ur theory makes no sense.

Adding the PC to something doesn't neccissarily make it uberl33tz off the bat.

I imagine that what people are saying is:

Currently -
Silversurfer>/=Superman>Terrax and Firelord, however...

Terrax and Firelord were >> Norrin Radd before they got the PC.

What they're saying is that even though a base character could be considerably stronger and more powerful than the other (ala Terrax and Norrin) it doesn't necessarily mean that once they receive the power cosmic that it will stay that way.

Same thing with the Uni Power.

But do you agree that Superman's already considerable
powers would be alot better with the PC added to them?

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
Adding the PC to something doesn't neccissarily make it uberl33tz off the bat.

I imagine that what people are saying is:

Currently -
Silversurfer>/=Superman>Terrax and Firelord, however...

Terrax and Firelord were >> Norrin Radd before they got the PC.

What they're saying is that even though a base character could be considerably stronger and more powerful than the other (ala Terrax and Norrin) it doesn't necessarily mean that once they receive the power cosmic that it will stay that way.

Same thing with the Uni Power.

this is dead on. superman + pc doesnt automatically make him the uber character your making him out to be. like he said, terrax and firelord were>> than norin rad before any of them became heralds but silver surfer>>terrax and firelord as heralds.

thanos hanged with warrior madness thor with power gem. and wm thor with power gem almost crushed adam warlock and silver surfer if they hadn't escaped.

thats how powerful thanos is. he's crazzzzzy powerful.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
this is dead on. superman + pc doesnt automatically make him the uber character your making him out to be. like he said, terrax and firelord were>> than norin rad before any of them became heralds but silver surfer>>terrax and firelord as heralds.

thanos hanged with warrior madness thor with power gem. and wm thor with power gem almost crushed adam warlock and silver surfer if they hadn't escaped.

thats how powerful thanos is. he's crazzzzzy powerful.

Actually, it probably would. Superman is among the most physically powerful herald levelers. Giving him the PC would make for a very dangerous combo.

Ever heard of Superman Blue? If current Superman, with his experience as Supes Blue, was turned into the Kryptonian, he would demolish Thanos. thanduros

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, it probably would. Superman is among the most physically powerful herald levelers. Giving him the PC would make for a very dangerous combo.

Ever heard of Superman Blue? If current Superman, with his experience as Supes Blue, was turned into the Kryptonian, he would demolish Thanos. thanduros

giving him the pc would mean he'd be like the silver surfer only without the surf board. surfer could actually increase his strength and speed and durability with the pc to uncalculable levels, though he doesnt coz he's a dumb ass.

and surfer has more experience with energy and matter manipulation that superman blue. and he cant do squat to thanos. i may not like thanos, but he is uber. the kryptonian's pc powers would have the same effect as the surfers pc powers on thanos, meaning not a damb thing.

when it comes to galactus making herarlds, base power means nothing.

This is obviously a guessing game noone can win........not enough feats from the Kryptonian

But in my opinon i think Kryptonian would beat thanos

Kryptonian , easily

Originally posted by starlock
This is obviously a guessing game noone can win........not enough feats from the Kryptonian

But in my opinon i think Kryptonian would beat thanos

I do as well, as it stands i think Superman alone would give thanos a run for his money, but if you added the power cosmic into the mix he would no longer wear thin his resources, as he could alway replinish them hundreds maybe thousands of time more than he is now. Superman would be a beast, I see him being as powerful as the Silver Surfer in the Exiles story line, and that dude was a terror. Superman with the power cosmic could be conceivable more powerful than that. Whick would mean that Thanos would bite it almost immediately if the Kryptonian got angry enough to stop holding back.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Kryptonian , easily fail. thanos defeats him.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I do as well, as it stands i think Superman alone would give thanos a run for his money, but if you added the power cosmic into the mix he would no longer wear thin his resources, as he could alway replinish them hundreds maybe thousands of time more than he is now. Superman would be a beast, I see him being as powerful as the Silver Surfer in the Exiles story line, and that dude was a terror. Superman with the power cosmic could be conceivable more powerful than that. Whick would mean that Thanos would bite it almost immediately if the Kryptonian got angry enough to stop holding back. superman alone would be about a big of a threat as thor. and thor hasnt done shit to thanos. even warrior madness thor with the power gem couldnt defeat thanos. the kman goes down as well.

thanos hangs with odin while superman could never not even here as the kryptonian.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
giving him the pc would mean he'd be like the silver surfer only without the surf board. surfer could actually increase his strength and speed and durability with the pc to uncalculable levels, though he doesnt coz he's a dumb ass.

and surfer has more experience with energy and matter manipulation that superman blue. and he cant do squat to thanos. i may not like thanos, but he is uber. the kryptonian's pc powers would have the same effect as the surfers pc powers on thanos, meaning not a damb thing.

when it comes to galactus making herarlds, base power means nothing.

When has Surfer ever tried matter manip on Thanos? The one time that it was tried, it worked just fine on the Titan.

Originally posted by Sirius77
The Kryptonian has the potential to pwn Superman-Prime.

He has the ability to absorb any type of energy. Including solar energy.

He became a semi-abstract entity in All-Star Superman from a million
years in the sun.

Imagine if he absorbed the ENTIRE sun with the power cosmic?

He would at LEAST be an abstract.

Abstract? not likely...But i do agree that he beats Thanos.

Wow.

Hyperbole for the loss again it seems.

People see the kryptonian, it seems they automatically think it's Surfer + Superman = a koed Thanos.

I'll never understand why people make debates with a character that has little to no feats under their belt.

It makes debating them combatwise, impossible.

And lol at the guy who said Superman Prime became a semi-abstract entity....

Dictionary.com is begging for a visit.

^Correct. Why exactly is the Kryptonian an exact sum of superman's own powers + PC? To be honest, a high level herald already has many of superman's own powers, such as your durability, strength (through amping, although superman probably has the edge on every herald), a power source (arguably a better one than a yellow sun), speed so on. The Kryptonian could absorb suns for power, I guess, although it could be argued that heralds are capable of doing the same. Superman does have quite a few exotic tricks, but the only ones that would work are T-vo related. In other words, he is a stronger surfer with arguably better fight speed. Not sure if that would be enough. Impossible to argue without feats in any case.

Actually, given the theoretical limits of PC, he could replicate most of the feats that his Supes blue incarnation did. And that version had a shot of beating Thanos.

Superman Blue was one of the best herald level energy manipulators in comics.

Originally posted by Ouallada
^Correct. Why exactly is the Kryptonian an exact sum of superman's own powers + PC? To be honest, a high level herald already has many of superman's own powers, such as your durability, strength (through amping, although superman probably has the edge on every herald), a power source (arguably a better one than a yellow sun), speed so on. The Kryptonian could absorb suns for power, I guess, although it could be argued that heralds are capable of doing the same. Superman does have quite a few exotic tricks, but the only ones that would work are T-vo related. In other words, he is a stronger surfer with arguably better fight speed. Not sure if that would be enough. Impossible to argue without feats in any case. PROBABLY BECAUSE IN THE COMIC THE KRYPTONIAN WAS SUPERMAN IMBUED WITH THE POWER COSMIC

Oops. caps lock.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I do as well, as it stands i think Superman alone would give thanos a run for his money, but if you added the power cosmic into the mix he would no longer wear thin his resources, as he could alway replinish them hundreds maybe thousands of time more than he is now. Superman would be a beast, I see him being as powerful as the Silver Surfer in the Exiles story line, and that dude was a terror. Superman with the power cosmic could be conceivable more powerful than that. Whick would mean that Thanos would bite it almost immediately if the Kryptonian got angry enough to stop holding back.


There is somthing galactus says as he empowers supes...somthing about senses?,i will check it out...the comic is GIANT SIZE lol so it should not be hard to find

I think supes is also close to surfer in overall power.. close but add supes weaknesses and surfer prevails

Herald superman i believe would be more powerfull than surfer

Originally posted by Juntai
PROBABLY BECAUSE IN THE COMIC THE KRYPTONIAN WAS SUPERMAN IMBUED WITH THE POWER COSMIC

No need to yell....jk.

But just because he's Superman with the PC, doesn't mean he's Superman + Surfer, which it seems many people here seems to think it means.

He had no feats under his belt.

Whatsoever.

What feats he has, are the ones he's got as classic Superman.

Classic Superman can't beat Thanos, so unless this special version gets some on panel showings, he loses by default.

Unless the one thing we do know about him..........his ass (being shiny as hell) is enough for him to defeat the Titan?

doesnt thanos have the power cosmic,but he goes insane when he uses it?

Well Morg was able to pwn all of the heralds. which likely, Thanos could do. Since Thanos put up a good fight with him. I'd say Thanos is around 8-10 more powerful than a herald , if he uses all of his abilities. Even if Superman where amped with the power cosmic, I can only see him being maybe 4 times more powerful. Becuz of Speed, i'd say they draw.

Originally posted by Juntai
PROBABLY BECAUSE IN THE COMIC THE KRYPTONIAN WAS SUPERMAN IMBUED WITH THE POWER COSMIC

Which was what I said. Thanos beats SS like Shaq would hammer a 3year old. Common concensus has it that superman loses. Given that the PC overlaps with superman's original powerset to a large degree, barring some pretty tricks that may not work on someone at Thanos' level, what I said makes perfect sense.

I'm still not arguing this, but anyone who wants to argue for the Kryptonian can simply provide an argument as to why, keeping in mind that Kryptonian =/= SS + superman.

someone show me a scan of the kryptonian doing something special as to why they think hed have a shot of beating thanos. this isnt tyrante people its a shinier superman. thanos wins.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Which was what I said. Thanos beats SS like Shaq would hammer a 3year old. Common concensus has it that superman loses. Given that the PC overlaps with superman's original powerset to a large degree, barring some pretty tricks that may not work on someone at Thanos' level, what I said makes perfect sense.

I'm still not arguing this, but anyone who wants to argue for the Kryptonian can simply provide an argument as to why, keeping in mind that Kryptonian =/= SS + superman.


which is what i've been saying, superman with the pc doesnt mean that he is suddenly surfer+superman in power.

and again, as stated, thanos took on warrior madness thor with power gem. now, thor and superman are about equal. thor in warrior madness has his strength, power, abilites, etc multiplied by 10. now add the power gem to this and you have one mean bad ass.

now if you want to keep arguing that the krypotnian is surfer + superman, thorx10> superman+silver surfer and thorx10+power gem>>> than superman+silver surfer.

and thor traded blows with thorx10+power gem.

Of course he wins. The Surfer should win it's just he has no battle skills at all that makes him lose. Supes on the other hand is a warrior.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Of course he wins. The Surfer should win it's just he has no battle skills at all that makes him lose. Supes on the other hand is a warrior.

You make it sound like a certainty, even though the only things we are certain of is that 1) Kryptonian has no feats and 2) Thanos beats on surfer and superman individually.

Surfer has been shown to be adept in battles when he tries, and this extends outside of H2H, which I assume is what you are referring to. Superman already has arguably greater strength than any herald, and has better H2H feats than any herald, so I fail to see how exactly the PC is going to make him exponentially stronger. Firelord and Terrax were way above human when granted the PC, but yet are lower than Stardust or surfer as heralds. Thus, it cannot even be proved that superman having a stronger base equals a more powerful herald. Even if his base powers make him a much more powerful herald, Thanos falls just short of Skyfather level. People fail to understand at times that herald level and skyfather level are light years apart.

To be honest, I would pose this question. Without Galactus' statement that the Kryptonian is the most powerful herald ever, would anyone save fanboys realistically believe in Thanos losing?



Read my posts. I am in agreement that Kryptonian is NOT equal to SS and superman combined.

I'll take Galactus's word for it that Kryptonian would be the greatest herald ever. He knows what he's talking about. This means Kryptonian is the standard Supes with the PC augmenting his already established Kryptonian powers. This has to be the case or else Galactus wouldn't have made a statement like that. This would in a sense turn him into Blue Energy Supes with all of the previous standard abilities of a Kryptonian. Thanos is pwned.

Originally posted by Sundipped
I'll take Galactus's word for it that Kryptonian would be the greatest herald ever. He knows what he's talking about. This means Kryptonian is the standard Supes with the PC augmenting his already established Kryptonian powers. This has to be the case or else Galactus wouldn't have made a statement like that. This would in a sense turn him into Blue Energy Supes with all of the previous standard abilities of a Kryptonian. Thanos is pwned.

I agree any other option is misdirection.

The Kryptonian 10/10 To fast and to strong

I agree that, in theory, a cosmically-amped Superman would beat Thanos, ASSUMING that the Kryptonian IS a Superman/Surfer amalgam. Or assuming he gets all the nifty powers of Blue Energy.

However, those are assumptions we simply cannot make.

Even if we take Galactus' statement at face value, that only means the Kryptonian only must be more powerful than a classic Silver Surfer. Not necessarily a LOT more powerful, not necessarily only a tiny bit. We don't know.

The Kryptonian doesn't have enough feats under his belt to say conclusively that EITHER character here would win.

However, it is clear that a, theoretical, Superman Herald - simply being an amalgam of Superman and the Surfer - would be plenty capable of beating Thanos for a majority.

Originally posted by Soljer
I agree that, in theory, a cosmically-amped Superman would beat Thanos, ASSUMING that the Kryptonian IS a Superman/Surfer amalgam. Or assuming he gets all the nifty powers of Blue Energy.

However, those are assumptions we simply cannot make.

Even if we take Galactus' statement at face value, that only means the Kryptonian only must be more powerful than a classic Silver Surfer. Not necessarily a LOT more powerful, not necessarily only a tiny bit. We don't know.

The Kryptonian doesn't have enough feats under his belt to say conclusively that EITHER character here would win.

However, it is clear that a, theoretical, Superman Herald - simply being an amalgam of Superman and the Surfer - would be plenty capable of beating Thanos for a majority.

Simply stated, I know you guys who say the Kryptonian would win are right but I can't bring myself to say it?

Originally posted by Zebedee
Simply stated, I know you guys who say the Kryptonian would win are right but I can't bring myself to say it?

No, because based off of what we know for sure, the Kryptonian wouldn't necessarily win.

That was my entire point, there isn't enough information to back up the Kryptonian winning, or getting a mudhole stomped in him.

supes here has no feats to back up a lot of these theories based on his powers. we know what thanos can do and we know hes above galactus heralds. thanos wins.

Originally posted by Soljer
No, because based off of what we know for sure, the Kryptonian wouldn't necessarily win.

That was my entire point, there isn't enough information to back up the Kryptonian winning, or getting a mudhole stomped in him.

Well we know Thanos had trouble with Runner due to his speed. So yes we do know the Kryptonian would win in my opinion, it's all about opinino. Your saying the glass is half empty. I'm saying it's half full and i'm biased because apart from early Thanos pre an including Marvel 2 in 1 Annual 2. I couldn't stand him.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Well we know Thanos had trouble with Runner due to his speed. So yes we do know the Kryptonian would win in my opinion, it's all about opinino. Your saying the glass is half empty. I'm saying it's half full and i'm biased because apart from early Thanos pre an including Marvel 2 in 1 Annual 2. I couldn't stand him.

hes no where near as fast as the runner. lets not get out of control here. thanos wins this. all of kryptonians power is speculation.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Well we know Thanos had trouble with Runner due to his speed. So yes we do know the Kryptonian would win in my opinion, it's all about opinino. Your saying the glass is half empty. I'm saying it's half full and i'm biased because apart from early Thanos pre an including Marvel 2 in 1 Annual 2. I couldn't stand him.



No offense meant here, but this post really makes it sound like you're saying; "Thanos loses cause I don't like him." .

Regardless, the theoretical power of the Kryptonian is more than enough to take down Thanos.

The displayed power, however, is not.

Originally posted by Soljer
No offense meant here, but this post really makes it sound like you're saying; "Thanos loses cause I don't like him." .

Regardless, the theoretical power of the Kryptonian is more than enough to take down Thanos.

The displayed power, however, is not. how could anyone not like thanos.

Originally posted by Soljer
No offense meant here, but this post really makes it sound like you're saying; "Thanos loses cause I don't like him." .

It does sound like that doesn't it



Originally posted by Soljer
Regardless, the theoretical power of the Kryptonian is more than enough to take down Thanos.



That's a good theory

Originally posted by Soljer

The displayed power, however, is not.

Don't ruin it now, let's stick with your excellent theory.

Originally posted by Zebedee
It does sound like that doesn't it





That's a good theory



Don't ruin it now, let's stick with your excellent theory.

how can u hate thanos?

Originally posted by quanchi112
how can u hate thanos?

No one hates Thanos Quan. How can anyone have an emotion as strong as hate about a fictional comic character. Do I dislike what Thanos became after he was brought back. Damn straight.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Well we know Thanos had trouble with Runner due to his speed. So yes we do know the Kryptonian would win in my opinion, it's all about opinino. Your saying the glass is half empty. I'm saying it's half full and i'm biased because apart from early Thanos pre an including Marvel 2 in 1 Annual 2. I couldn't stand him.



Well, besides the usual suspects, all the reasonable people are sitting on the fence here. I refused to argue for either side as well.

Being Galactus' greatest herald ever does not mean much in this context. Surfer has never come close to beating Thanos. Not even in a the exception-proves-the-rule way. Maybe it is PIS, but PIS is when surfer slips on a bar of soap while going in for the KO, and does not have the element of consistency, whch Thanos' victories over heralds have. Unless Tyrant himself is considered a herald, I'm wagering that Superman needs a pretty sizeable powerup. Being 101% of surfer isn't going to cut it.

Do I think it is possible? Yes, Thanos could lose to the Kryptonian. Does it matter what anyone thinks? Not really, because he has no feats. Using the runner's feat is ABC, and we would be better off pitting Thanos against the runner. Anything else is pure speculation. And for people to argue for a character who has less feats than Aunt May is ridiculous.

Also, it is down to opinions, yes. However, it is impossible to make a learned, calculated and unbiased one on where Kryptonian stands exactly.

Originally posted by Zebedee
No one hates Thanos Quan. How can anyone have an emotion as strong as hate about a fictional comic character. Do I dislike what Thanos became after he was brought back. Damn straight. people can hate characters. thanos has been uber for so very long. he just keeps getting more powerful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
people can hate characters.

dur I hope not Quan. I hope people don't hate people.

Originally posted by Zebedee
dur I hope not Quan. I hope people don't hate people. i still cant understand why anyone would dislike thanos.

how?

Thanos has able to hold his own against the likes of Odin and Depowered Tyrant. Giving Superman a cosmic power boost means he'll be able to give Thanos a fight but in the end it won't be enough.

Thanos 8/10.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Thanos has able to hold his own against the likes of Odin and Depowered Tyrant. Giving Superman a cosmic power boost means he'll be able to give Thanos a fight but in the end it won't be enough.

Thanos 8/10. ah almost right. thanos doesnt lose. thanos wins 10 of 10.

Like everyone has said, the Kryptonian doesn't have the feats.

But for those saying that a combo of Supes&Surfer couldn't take Thanos, I refer you to my Fortress Eradicator vs. Thanos thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t459194.html

Essentially, the kryptonian (if given Superman's experience and assuming he was current Supes power-wise before his boost), would be like a permanently sundipped Superman with Supes Blue energy powers.

you better believe Thanos is going down to that. srsly

But..........the Kryptonian doesn't have jack shit for feats, so we're stuck speculating, or matching Thanos against the Eradicator.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Like everyone has said, the Kryptonian doesn't have the feats.

But for those saying that a combo of Supes&Surfer couldn't take Thanos, I refer you to my Fortress Eradicator vs. Thanos thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t459194.html

Essentially, the kryptonian (if given Superman's experience and assuming he was current Supes power-wise before his boost), would be like a permanently sundipped Superman with Supes Blue energy powers.

you better believe Thanos is going down to that. srsly

But..........the Kryptonian doesn't have jack shit for feats, so we're stuck speculating, or matching Thanos against the Eradicator. no feats means a lot of speculation. bye bye kryptonian.

thanos wins.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Thanos has able to hold his own against the likes of Odin and Depowered Tyrant. Giving Superman a cosmic power boost means he'll be able to give Thanos a fight but in the end it won't be enough.

Thanos 8/10.

Both of those fights were going downhill and would've turned out to be 2 loses. Even this version of Supes could lose both of these fights but saying Thanos held his own is not entirely accurate. Maybe for the time being but...

You can''t guage this fight just off of who Thanos "hung in there" with.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Both of those fights were going downhill and would've turned out to be 2 loses. Even this version of Supes could lose both of these fights but saying Thanos held his own is not entirely accurate. Maybe for the time being but...

You can''t guage this fight just off of who Thanos "hung in there" with. with odin he most certainly hung in there. the fought for quite a bit and thanos never left or yielded. thanos had a lot more fight in him. the kryptonian would not have lasted anywhere near that long with odin in asgard.
thanos is outta supermans league here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
with odin he most certainly hung in there. the fought for quite a bit and thanos never left or yielded. thanos had a lot more fight in him. the kryptonian would not have lasted anywhere near that long with odin in asgard.
thanos is outta supermans league here.

Thanos was still going to lose to Odin. The fight he had left was about to be taken away. A PC Superman would've stood a better chance. Odin would have to use BFR for him. Even that might not work.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Thanos was still going to lose to Odin. The fight he had left was about to be taken away. A PC Superman would've stood a better chance. Odin would have to use BFR for him. Even that might not work. more than likely he was going to lose but we dont know that for sure. the point is he stood his ground and hung with the skyfather.