Originally posted by Soljer
It's hardly an exaggeration. Sure, he has some feats to his name without chi-amping. But without chi-amping, AND without his top-tier skills? Nah.
Impling he's helpess without chi amping is QUITE an exaggeration.. especially when he's staved off Luke without it.
And his fighting, it's questionable as to why he felt it was so bad.. once again the indications to his lack of focus due to tha pain that Sabretooth was already inflicting.. well...
Originally posted by Soljer
Many fights? Not really. Against hydra and against another immortal weapon.
That's sucks, judgement will then stay reserved.... for now.
Originally posted by Soljer
Awww...
I wanted a LITTLE more response. At least to breaking out of the friggin crimson bands!
. I thought that was a kick ass feat...
lol, sorry, I know how impressive classic Iron Fist is/was it's not news to me.. hehe.
Originally posted by Soljer
Regardless of whether he was WRITTEN with fighting skills or not, he was retconned into them.
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Like I don't know that..
I think I didn't really adress my point very well..
Okay... either the first fight doesn't help because it wasn't against the characterization of Sabretooth we know today, OR it doesn't help because it shows that Danny couldn't even recognize that Sabretooth uses fighting skill... Either way it's a bad example to prove that he "knows" Sabes in the fighting department.
Originally posted by Soljer
The addition of them to his character doesn't change their past. Iron Fist has fought with sabretooth several times. They're familiar with each other by now.
Familiar sure.. familiar to a point where you can make the claim that Iron Fist knows how Sabretooth fights? nu-uh..
Originally posted by Soljer
AoA? Meh to that. It's AoA. Might as well have me bring up Exiles Iron Fist punching a hole in Colossus....
There might be validity to that, IF has beaten Colossus in CoC II afterall.
In anycase it's just one basic example of many to illustrate a point.
Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine slices up Creed no problem, but could only score Colossus. Exiles Iron Fist punched a hole in him.
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So what? We don't know that that's all Wolverine can do to Colossus..
I mean Colossus seems to be under the impression that Wolverine can cut him to the bone.
Wolverine's "scored" Punisher and Daredevil in the exact same fashion.. just because he didn't cleave Peter in two doesn't mean that he absolutely can't..
Originally posted by Soljer
But, like AoA, exiles doesn't matter much, hm? (And I'm well aware that Exiles Sabretooth is kinda ridiculous. I'm not actually trying to bring exiles into this. Just more non-canon stuff.)
It's just that AOA Sabes and 616 Sabes are very VERY similar in abilities and stats from all appearances. Psylocke couldn't even distinguish a physical difference between the two in combat and she, like Danny, has roughoused with Sabretooth multiple times.
Originally posted by Soljer
I will admit that I underrate Sabretooth's durability a bit, but simply out of ignorance. I'm not too arrogant to admit when I don't know everything about a character.
But, acting like Danny Rand couldn't affect Sabretooth is ludicrous. He can knock around the top-bricks with it and destroy buildings, but can't phase sabretooth?
*Shrugs*
I'm not acting like anything... I'm stating what happened.. As far as I'm aware none of my personal bias or opinion went into that statement..
Originally posted by Soljer
Again, I don't know quite a bit enough about sabretooth to give an accurate estimation on this fight. And I kind of doubt that you know enough about Danny to do the same.
Classic Danny yes, current Danny, no and I've already admitted that.
Originally posted by Soljer
However, we both seem more than happy to defend either character when challenged...
. Only in fights I think he can win.