Originally posted by inimalist
computer analogies have been made to the brain?????
umm, ok, so, you would be able to tell me what the front side bus of a CPU to ram would be in the brain?
You are going to explain how the optical HD is the same as memory?
I know what you are saying, and it is the fact that i AM a student of the mind that I can say the idea is bogus.
For instance, computers are capable of doing mathematics far beyond that of human ability. So that means they are better and smarter than people right? oh, well, they can't object recognize as well as we can, so we are better....
do you see the problem? Underlying abstract models of "memory" and "processing" are systems in the brain and in computers that are radically differant.
OR: Tell me where the CPU and Graphics Processors are in the brain, I could use some international noteriety as the man who solved the binding and localization problems of the brain.
Oh, and maybe a little bit on how emergent properties, such as consciousness, are comparable to a computer.
and no, the brain doesn't run on electricity. Electricity is a flow of electrons. The brain propogates electric signals by polorizing or depolorizing a signal down an axon using ion channels. So, there is an electrical charge, and it is absolutly unrelated to electricity (I guess electrons might be what they have in common...). So, how do we "integrate" brain and technology. Well, we have a voltage reader in the chip or whatever that transduces the electo-chemical signal into that of electricity. I'd also be a little careful in what you say about cybernetics. You may want to specify that all of the integration of neuron to technology has been done in absolutly controlled lab settings. Its amazing, but there is no reason to believe this will be close to being ready this century, this being more of problem of the way information is stored/processed in the brain as opposed to simple technological limitations.
"i love the comparison between brain computational power and computer computational power. Like, you know, the two are even remotely the same thing..."
Since the brain really is part of your professional studies, what you say around here carries a whole lot more weight. Just because you don't like the fact that the brain can be simplified into something less supernatural or godly, doesn't mean you have to pass your professional opinion as fact.
Did you know memories are stored via our neurons? (I know that you know that.) True that we have a lot to understand about the brain because we do not store our memories via binary code or hex...
Though you are obviously being a smart ass with your questions about the technology, you are misconstruing how I intended my comment about the brain being a harddrive/processor. Our brain processes data as it comes in and our brain decides which data is more important and that data is brought to our consciousness...we could say that this process is one of a collection of processes that our brain performs to form our consciousness. Now where have we heard of processes and assigning importance to data? hmmm....anyone know this one? That is just one of many examples.
Sure a computer can calculate much better than we can...our brain doesn't use precise 0's and 1's to store, process, and retrieve data/memory.
I don't have to be careful what I say about cybernetics...what's gonna happen? The cybernetic police will write me a citation?
If you are still around when we have functional cybernetic individuals running around, then I can say "I told you so."...oh wait...