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Mewtwo is the most powerful Pokčmon in the game and series.

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Mewtwo is described by the in-game Pokédexes of the Pokémon video games as being cloned from giuseppe having been created by scientists by super modifying Mew's DNA. It is primarily due to this characteristic that Mewtwo is featured in the various Pokémon media as tempestuous and remorseless. A sapient being, Mewtwo is among the few Pokémon species created by humankind. Mewtwo's ears resemble small horns and its body is less feline and more humanoid than that of Mew.

Due to its genetic background, Mewtwo’s powers are superior to all other Pokémon, even many of legendary or god-like regard. Mewtwo can employ telekinesis to lift people and Pokémon off the ground, or to perform self-levitation, which allows it to achieve genuine flight. All this can be done with only a minor or nearly no strain on its mind. Mewtwo has the ability to project its thoughts telepathically to others, making it one of the very few Pokémon who can directly communicate with any sort of creature. When in battle with another Pokémon, Mewtwo can easily summon a barrier of telekinetic power to protect its body, as well as erase memories.





In Pokémon Red, Blue and Yellow from the first generation of games for original Game Boy, Mewtwo is found in the Unknown Dungeon, residing at its end as a Pokémon that one has a single chance to catch through battle, where it is at level 70. In Red, Blue, and Yellow, Mewtwo, was an overly powerful species with very high statistics. However, with the introduction of Dark and Steel types and strong Ghost and Bug attacks in Generation Two, Mewtwo was weakened. Even so, it remains one of the strongest Pokémon in the games.


Mewtwo in the Cerulean Cave in FireRed/LeafGreenMewtwo can be captured in the Fire Red and LeafGreen versions as well. It lives in the Cerulean Cave at level 70. Once caught, Mewtwo can be traded to the other versions. Mewtwo has the highest Special Attack rating and a high Speed and Attack. However its Defense and Special Defense are slightly above average.

In Pokémon Stadium, Mewtwo is the boss-character of every Round of the stadium; after completing the Gym Leader Castle, the four levels of the Poke Cup, Prime Cup, Pika Cup and Petit Cup, a Level 100 Mewtwo awaits battle, and the player must be able to defeat it with a team of any six or less Pokémon to complete that round. Pokémon Stadium 2 has these battles much like the previous game, but this time the battle is with the Rival who has three Pokémon at level 50: Lugia and Ho-Oh in addition to Mewtwo.

In the Nintendo 64 game Pokémon Snap, while Mewtwo is not physically present, an array of glowing crystals is located in the Cave course. If the center crystal is properly snapped, the photograph displays a large, holographic image of Mewtwo, one of the six "signs" required to get to Rainbow Cloud, the final course in the game. Mewtwo also appears in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon as a boss character at the end of the game and is later recruitable in the brutal 99 floor dungeon Western Cave Dungeon. Mewtwo also plays a cameo in Pokémon Puzzle League.


Mewtwo as seen in Super Smash Bros. MeleeMewtwo made its first Smash Bros. appearance in Super Smash Bros. Melee. It is one of four playable Pokémon characters. It has a fast running speed, has a light weight and is easy to knock out of the arena. It uses quick, strong attack moves and can lift and throw items (and other players) easily.




In Pokémon: The First Movie, Mewtwo stirs from its slumber in stasis a while after its memory is erased and it has matured. When it is told that it is a laboratory specimen for the humans who created it, Mewtwo is enraged and destroys the laboratory. It is soon found by Giovanni, who had originally ordered Mewtwo's creation, and succeeds in tricking the Pokémon by telling it that he will help "add value" to Mewtwo's life and make him stronger. Giovanni trains Mewtwo through use of a sort of armor plating in his gym in Viridian City. Upon finding out that Giovanni is using it as nothing more than a tool, it is convinced that humans are immoral. Mewtwo destroys the machinery connected to it and flies away, escaping Giovanni's clutches. It goes to New Island and sets a new goal: a global purge of humans and Pokémon, both of which it believes to be corrupt and weak; the humans in doing whatever they want and their pokémon mindlessly obeying them. Mewtwo's plans are to clone every species of Pokémon to create superior creatures- super clones like itself and wipe the planet clean of all humans and "inferior" Pokémon.

Mewtwo sets in motion its plan to acquire Pokémon for cloning. In order to do this, it sends letters to many trainers including Ash, inviting them to the island to meet "the world's greatest" Pokémon Master. Creating a storm so getting to the island would be more difficult, Mewtwo tests to see who are the worthiest trainers and upon their arrival, it appears before them proclaiming itself to be the world's greatest Pokémon and Pokémon Master. Mewtwo detains the trainers' Pokémon using Thief Balls, a variation of the Pokéball that captures all tamed Pokémon, even those inside their Pokéballs. Mewtwo clones each of them for itself in the lab it created. However, a wild Mew that witnessed the scientists with the fossil appears, and Mewtwo immediately sets the stage for a tremendous battle with it. With that, the ultimate Pokémon battle ensues, and the chaos eventually ends when Ash throws himself into Mewtwo and Mew’s crossfire of Psychic attacks, rendering his body lifeless and stone-like. This shocks Mewtwo, and as all the Pokémon grieve, their tears caress Ash’s body and miraculously revive him. Mewtwo realizes that all living beings have virtue. Then, it erases the memories of all trainers and their Pokémon and teleports them to the places where they received their invitations before taking the Pokémon it cloned along with it on a journey westward, in search of a haven.


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I'll see if I can find the comic scans and novels that showing him whooping ass.

I hate to tell you this, but Mewtwo is not #1 anymore.

d'unt really care. Besides I already know.. I'm a pokemonz master

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I hate to tell you this, but Mewtwo is not #1 anymore.

Hmm? Who's top dog now?

By the way, Lucario < Mewtwo. So if thats who you're going to say, you'd be wrong

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I'll see if I can find the comic scans and novels that showing him whooping ass.
Please do.

Originally posted by Remindme
By the way, Lucario < Mewtwo. So if thats who you're going to say, you'd be wrong
Yep. Dead wrong...

Anyhow, I guess I should say thanks for making a thread for my favorite Ninty character (well, besides Ridley, but I regard them equally) and my favorite pogeymanz! Err, Pokemon. >.>

*doesn't really know what about Mewtwo I should contribute to at the moment*

Meh. If he returns in Brawl, I guess all I can say is I hope they make his speed and weight more on par with that of the Pokemon games. Because the opposite was true for Melee, he was practically the easiest character to KO, and was bottom tier as well.

Originally posted by Remindme
Hmm? Who's top dog now? Arceus is. He is basically the Pokemon God. Also, Ho oh and Lugia are Mewtwo's equals.

Lugia & Ho-oh combined wouldn't be able to beat mewtwo ^^'

Ahhh i see where you've gone wrong Arceus is by far the strongest in the games (because he can change is element, then use Judgement) . I don't remember hearing they replaced the strongest pokčmon, I'm checking but i got nothing, If you can find me the official source that says Arceus is the strongest that be much appreciated.

It's currently believed he was the First Pokčmon, but that doesn't make him the strongest necessarily.

Arceus created the entire Pokemon world dude. Also, do you have proof that M2 can take HH and Lugia at the same time?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Arceus is. He is basically the Pokemon God. Also, Ho oh and Lugia are Mewtwo's equals.

Acreus may be known as the original but it is still believed all Pokemon (expect the few Acreus made) came from Mew considering Mew has the DNA of all Pokemon.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Arceus created the entire Pokemon world dude. Also, do you have proof that M2 can take HH and Lugia at the same time?

True, but if you read the book in the game you would also know he took that power from himself, thus he's at best a shadow of his former glorious power.

Well not proof, but in the first movie we see Mewtwo hold out a hand to stop Hyper Beam in it's tracks. Lugia's signature move is Aeroblast, and Ho-oh uses intense fire. Hyperbeam is generally alot more powerful than Aeroblast. I know what your thinknig, and yes your right, Lugia is obviously way more powerful than the Pokčmon that used Hyperbeam, but Mewtwo wasn't trying, plus the damaged caused by the attack has nothing on Mewtwo's destructive power. Mewtwo is definatly > Lugia, I admit Ho-oH it's a bit of a guess, since i can't recall seeing it fight. I just assumed (perhaps foolishly) that Mewtwo can defeat Ho-oh by using his psychic, since unlike Lugia, Ho-oH can't defend himself with Pyshcic of his own.

But this is not really what we should fill the respect thread with ^^'

Originally posted by Remindme
True, but if you read the book in the game you would also know he took that power from himself, thus he's at best a shadow of his former glorious power.

Well not proof, but in the first movie we see Mewtwo hold out a hand to stop Hyper Beam in it's tracks. Lugia's signature move is Aeroblast, and Ho-oh uses intense fire. Hyperbeam is generally alot more powerful than Aeroblast. I know what your thinknig, and yes your right, Lugia is obviously way more powerful than the Pokčmon that used Hyperbeam, but Mewtwo wasn't trying, plus the damaged caused by the attack has nothing on Mewtwo's destructive power. Mewtwo is definatly > Lugia, I admit Ho-oH it's a bit of a guess, since i can't recall seeing it fight. I just assumed (perhaps foolishly) that Mewtwo can defeat Ho-oh by using his psychic, since unlike Lugia, Ho-oH can't defend himself with Pyshcic of his own.

But this is not really what we should fill the respect thread with ^^'

A Gydaros isn't stronger than Lugia or Ho-oh. Stopping Gydaros's hyper beam isn't the same in stopping Lugia's aeroblast or Ho-oh's sacred flame.

And I never read that part in the library that said Acreus is nothing more than a shadow of his former self. Acreus has the highest stats in Pokemon and can learn any move (expect for moves that have punch/kick in its name...for some reason)

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Acreus may be known as the original but it is still believed all Pokemon (expect the few Acreus made) came from Mew considering Mew has the DNA of all Pokemon.

Yeah, but the book in the libary in Diamond says Arceus was the first. Personally it's my theory Mew isn't from earth, i mean, in the intro you see him in space, and all, maybe he/she had something to do with Arceus....

Who knows? Anyway i'm just spitballing

Originally posted by ESB -1138
A Gydaros isn't stronger than Lugia or Ho-oh. Stopping Gydaros's hyper beam isn't the same in stopping Lugia's aeroblast or Ho-oh's sacred flame.

And I never read that part in the library that said Acreus is nothing more than a shadow of his former self. Acreus has the highest stats in Pokemon and can learn any move (expect for moves that have punch/kick in its name...for some reason)

I'm not saying it is, I'm saying that beam is still very powerful, the fact he can stop it without trying, might suggest if he actually tried, he's also be able to stop sacred flame or Aeroblast

Well it doesn't actually say he's a shadow of his former self, thats what I figure, because it says clearly, He took to power from himself.

Originally posted by Remindme
I'm not saying it is, I'm saying that beam is still very powerful, the fact he can stop it without trying, might suggest if he actually tried, he's also be able to stop sacred flame or Aeroblast

Ah but Lugia's aeroblast stopped the three legendary birds' attacks in their tracks. Lugia and Ho-oh combined would take out Mewtwo, heck it said that Lugia stayed at the bottom of the ocean because his powers were so great they caused chaos and destruction wherever he went.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Ah but Lugia's aeroblast stopped the three legendary birds' attacks in their tracks. Lugia and Ho-oh combined would take out Mewtwo, heck it said that Lugia stayed at the bottom of the ocean because his powers were so great they caused chaos and destruction wherever he went.

No, it stopped Zapdos and Mortres, Articuno had already been defeated by Moltres and Zados. Though that don't make it any less impressive don't get me wrong. However, Mewtwo's Psychic powers are way beyond Lugia's, that i don't think you can dissagree with. All he has to do is crash them into something hard, then use though Psyh balls.

I heard that, is that true or just a rumor?

Mewtwo is one of the most badass Pokemon ever.

Also what's that badass attack that he's doing where he's creating some kind of dark ball of energy?

I used to think Palkia was more powerful than Mewtwo after finishing Pearl. >.>

Yeah, he's among my favourites, still, can't beat Vulpix & Ninetales ^-^

http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/avatars/Third-Set/0023.jpg

I don't know, i don't recall it ever being made an actually attack in the games either. As far as i know it's refered to largly as "Psy Ball" or something, but i don't know it's true name.

Awesome. XD

Originally posted by Remindme
and Ho-oh uses intense fire.
Sacred Fire (which apparently has special/mystical powers outside the battlefield, like creating Raikou, Entei, and Suicune out of the corpses of dead Pokemon, as explained in the G/S/C story or whatever). Aeroblast is just a random, powerful beam of energy. Sacred Fire is a technique to which the full extent of its power has not been revealed (kinda like Darkseid's Omega Effect in a way, if you know who I'm talkin' about there).

Thus, it's very questionable if whether or not Mewtwo could just deflect a Sacred Fire attack from Ho-oh like he has any other projectile attack.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
heck it said that Lugia stayed at the bottom of the ocean because his powers were so great they caused chaos and destruction wherever he went.
Only because Lugia's not completely capable of controlling its powers (something pretty much all the other legendary Pokemon seem capable of doing).

Originally posted by Remindme
However, Mewtwo's Psychic powers are way beyond Lugia's, that i don't think you can dissagree with. All he has to do is crash them into something hard, then use though Psyh balls.
So true (on both parts).

Originally posted by shin_gear
Also what's that badass attack that he's doing where he's creating some kind of dark ball of energy?
Shadow Ball (I think).

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Sacred Fire (which apparently has special/mystical powers outside the battlefield, like creating Raikou, Entei, and Suicune out of the corpses of dead Pokemon, as explained in the G/S/C story or whatever). Aeroblast is just a random, powerful beam of energy. Sacred Fire is a technique to which the full extent of its power has not been revealed (kinda like Darkseid's Omega Effect in a way, if you know who I'm talkin' about there).

Thus, it's very questionable if whether or not Mewtwo could just deflect a Sacred Fire attack from Ho-oh like he has any other projectile attack.


Only because Lugia's not completely capable of controlling its powers (something pretty much all the other legendary Pokemon seem capable of doing).


So true (on both parts).


Shadow Ball (I think).

Wow, a Pokčmon pro it seems ^-^

Yeah i know, probably why we have yet to see it in action.

Not sure though, the art is too different IMO, it could be because his are so charged up though, i guess

Originally posted by shin_gear
Mewtwo is one of the most badass Pokemon ever.

Also what's that badass attack that he's doing where he's creating some kind of dark ball of energy?

I used to think Palkia was more powerful than Mewtwo after finishing Pearl. >.> That's Shadow Ball. Also, M2 is very badass, that is true.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Only because Lugia's not completely capable of controlling its powers (something pretty much all the other legendary Pokemon seem capable of doing).

Lugia's aeroblast was strong enough to stop an attack from all three legendary birds.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Lugia's aeroblast was strong enough to stop an attack from all three legendary birds.
no2
Originally posted by Remindme
No, it stopped Zapdos and Mortres, Articuno had already been defeated by Moltres and Zados.
^^^

Originally posted by Remindme
Mewtwo is the most powerful Pokčmon in the game and series.

Really? By logic my lv.100 Venasaur would be considered the most powerful Pokemon since he defeated a lv.100 Mewtwo in just two moves.

He wasn't talking about in-game mechanics was he? >.<

According to www.pokemon.com, Mewtwo is stronger than Mew when it comes to everything, except for special defense..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
According to www.pokemon.com, Mewtwo is stronger than Mew when it comes to everything, except for special defense..

And yet my Venasaur WTFpwned a Mewtwo on an equal level in two moves. Venasaur must be the strongest Pokemon ever.

Edit. 131

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Really? By logic my lv.100 Venasaur would be considered the most powerful Pokemon since he defeated a lv.100 Mewtwo in just two moves.
That was a really crappy trained Mewtwo it beat then. Any good Mewtwo would be able to attack first before Venusaur and OHKO it with Psychic.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
And yet my Venasaur WTFpwned a Mewtwo on an equal level in two moves. Venasaur must be the strongest Pokemon ever.
.........

Things are either toned down or hyped up for game balance.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
That was a really crappy trained Mewtwo it beat then. Any good Mewtwo would be able to attack first before Venusaur and OHKO it with Psychic.

Nope, my friend gave all the vitamins Mewtwo could take to him. Psychic didn't do half damage to my Venusaur and yet an earthquake and a frenzy plant WTFpwned it.

Originally posted by shin_gear
Things are either toned down or hyped up for game balance.

So you're saying we can't base Pokemon on the game?

We should base it on storyline events, etc. 131

Originally posted by shin_gear
We should base it on storyline events, etc. 131

Storyline event:

You get to go to the Unknown Dungeon and there I defeated Mewtwo with my Venusaur. See Venusaur is the strongest Pokemon.

We don't know if it was defeated by a Venasaur canonically, nor do I think Mewtwo was canonically captured in that game. Didn't he own everyone in the official movie?

Originally posted by shin_gear
We don't know if it was defeated by a Venasaur canonically, nor do I think Mewtwo was canonically captured in that game. Didn't he own everyone in the official movie?

The official movie? You mean Mewtwo Strikes Back in which Mewtwo battles Mew and neither of them is able to defeat the other and they are completely equal in basically everything for Mew keeps up with Mewtwo in terms of speed and when they clashed with those bubbles neither of them were able to win that and when they shot those energy beams neither of them were able to overpower the other?

I'm sorry but it seems Mewtwo is superior than Mew.

I think that also. It's also why I think Venasaur wouldn't stand a chance against Mewtwo outside of gameplay.

Or how it seems that Mewtwo and Mew are complete equals.


But Venusaur is my favorite Pokemon!

Originally posted by ESB -1138
But Venusaur is my favorite Pokemon! hug

Originally posted by ESB -1138
And yet my Venasaur WTFpwned a Mewtwo on an equal level in two moves. Venasaur must be the strongest Pokemon ever.

I'm just saying what the official homepage states..

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Nope, my friend gave all the vitamins Mewtwo could take to him. Psychic didn't do half damage to my Venusaur and yet an earthquake and a frenzy plant WTFpwned it.
You honestly expect me to believe that? Venusaur's Special Defense isn't that good, whereas Mewtwo's Special Attack is godly. Plus, Mewtwo gets a STAB (same type attack bonus) from using Pyschic. That always, in my experience when facing a Venusaur, has led to an OHKO.

And likewise, my Gyarados once owned a Mew with Earthquake, so I guess that would make it the best Pokemon ever?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
So you're saying we can't base Pokemon on the game?
He never said that...

Originally posted by ESB -1138
But Venusaur is my favorite Pokemon!
While you're entitled to your opinion, that doesn't make Venusaur the best Pokemon.

The only reason you pwn these high-level pokemons, is because you got your pokemon at a lower level.. It's proven that the lower level you catch and level, the stronger the top level will be.. If you catch a 99 Mewtwo, then your starting pokemon probably will be stronger, just because Mewtwo started at 99, while your started at 1..

If you got yourself a level 1 Mewtwo, you'll see that he'll be better than the one you encounter in the game once he reach the level that the other Mewtwo was at..

Why's gameplay being used to prove a point? >.<

I think Venasaur is cute.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
The only reason you pwn these high-level pokemons, is because you got your pokemon at a lower level.. It's proven that the lower level you catch and level, the stronger the top level will be.. If you catch a 99 Mewtwo, then your starting pokemon probably will be stronger, just because Mewtwo started at 99, while your started at 1..

If you got yourself a level 1 Mewtwo, you'll see that he'll be better than the one you encounter in the game once he reach the level that the other Mewtwo was at..
While this is true (forgot to mention it earlier, so thanks for bringing it up ), it's physically impossible to catch Mewtwo at any level other than 70 without something like a GS or AR, as you probably know.

But yeah. When I learned that, I used the cheat code to catch Mewtwo at level 1 so it would have the best stats possible (for the most part) by the time it reaches level 100. After doing so, I restarted one of my other versions, and traded the level 1 Mewtwo to train in place of the starter Pokemon I chose (I already played through the game with the 3 starters plenty of times before, so yeah). Mainly did it out of boredom (which is really the only times I cheat. In Pokemon anyway).

Originally posted by shin_gear
Why's gameplay being used to prove a point? >.<
Um, because it can?

Originally posted by shin_gear
I think Venasaur is cute.
*is surprised there isn't a Venusaur respect thread already*

It can, but in this case it doesn't make sense. The strongest Charizard Blastoise and Venasaur combined could not beat Mewtwo.

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Originally posted by shin_gear
It can, but in this case it doesn't make sense. The strongest Charizard Blastoise and Venasaur combined could not beat Mewtwo.

131
Heh. True...

And like you said, things are either toned down or hyped up for game balance, so I guess I agree.

My strongest Pokemon was a level 500 Snorlax lol. Gotta love that Missingo glitch.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
He never said that...

Actually he did:

Originally posted by shin_gear
Things are either toned down or hyped up for game balance.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
But Venusaur is my favorite Pokemon!

Teehee, my level 76 Ninetailes one-shot my friends level 94 Venusair

NineTailes for the coolest pokčmon ever


Truth behind the slaughter: I spend 4 hours looking for the strongest level 15 vulpix, it had better stats than my level 19 charmander when i got it ^^ (Not including Attack)

It's lowest stat at level 100 was like 342 (attack) ^-^ It was my strongest pokemon (Stat wise)

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Actually he did:
All he said there was how the balance of Pokemon's battle system works. Nowhere did he say in the post of his you quoted that we can't base Pokemon on the games.

Originally posted by Remindme
Teehee, my level 76 Ninetailes one-shot my friends level 94 Venusair

NineTailes for the coolest pokčmon ever


Truth behind the slaughter: I spend 4 hours looking for the strongest level 15 vulpix, it had better stats than my level 19 charmander when i got it ^^ (Not including Attack)

It's lowest stat at level 100 was like 342 (attack) ^-^ It was my strongest pokemon (Stat wise)
If anything, I think we're gonna need a Ninetales respect thread now since Mewtwo just can't seem to be talked about here for some reason >_>...
Edit: Nevermind. Didn't see there already was one at first.

Congrats on the feat you made against your friend though. Needless to say, the outcome wasn't surprising since Ninetales had the type advantage.

Thankies, Fire Blast FTW mind, he did the Sunny Day talk about self destruction

My Groudon knows Fire Blast and Solar Beam. 313

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the b*tch Mewtwo pwns each and every time.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/f/fb/Streetfighter_bison_illust.png

Originally posted by shin_gear
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the b*tch Mewtwo pwns each and every time.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/f/fb/Streetfighter_bison_illust.png Then Pyron pwns M2.

Then I pwn your mom.

I already pwned mom. Have the sloppy seconds if you want.

I love Mew-Two.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
All he said there was how the balance of Pokemon's battle system works. Nowhere did he say in the post of his you quoted that we can't base Pokemon on the games.

Really? Going by the game Mewtwo isn't that powerful. But by going by the offical movie we can see the true strength of Mewtwo.

Going by the movies and comics Mew-Two is the most powerful of the original 150. He can travel between dimensions and stuff.

Comics are not canon that I know of mate.

Originally posted by Remindme
Thankies, Fire Blast FTW mind, he did the Sunny Day talk about self destruction
Yeah. Then there's the thing with Rain Dance causing Thunder to be 100% accurate, which also leads to self destruction in that sense ...

Originally posted by shin_gear
My Groudon knows Fire Blast and Solar Beam. 313
Meh. Physical moves like Earthquake and Rock Slide are better to have on Groudon (especially if one teaches Groudon Swords Dance along with those 2 moves, making him one of the most powerful Pokemon in the game if used correctly).

Due to its Drought ability though, Fire Blast and Solar Beam are still okay combinations for it.

Aside circumstances, nice avatar >.>...

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Then Pyron pwns M2.


I haven't gone to the Game Versus board in awhile, but still wouldn't be surprised if someone made a Pyron vs Mewtwo thread out of pure spite.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Really? Going by the game Mewtwo isn't that powerful.
Yes. He is that powerful. His Speed and Special Attack is unrivaled by most legendaries, and then some. His only downside really is that his defense stats aren't that good compared to many other legendaries, but his high Speed and Recover move easily makes up for that.

The only game where he's not that powerful is SSBM.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Comics are not canon that I know of mate.

They're not. But they can be used in debates here now, apparently.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
They're not. But they can be used in debates here now, apparently. How is that? That is bullshit, this is not like the canon Halo books.

Mewtwo Tribute Shows some great feats for him from the movies.

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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
How is that? That is bullshit, this is not like the canon Halo books.
Because all non-canon material can be used in debates as long as it's A) licensed by the creator of the character(s), and/or B) the thread starter doesn't specify whither or not non-canon material can be used.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Mewtwo Tribute Shows some great feats for him from the movies.
Meh. I never did like that particular song, but still a pretty good vid overall, I suppose.

Guess I'll post a couple while I'm at it.

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YVRu5mDun9A

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Because all non-canon material can be used in debates as long as it's A) licensed by the creator of the character(s), and/or B) the thread starter doesn't specify whither or not non-canon material can be used. No, Lana clearly said canon unless stated otherwise.

Exactly. It's the thread starters decision. Non-canon material can be used as long as the thread starter says it can. Ya know the Halo novels are also non-canon to right?

Since when was the Halo Books non-canon?

They're considered non-canon because they contradict the games, as you've pointed out many times. MJOLNIR armor is nigh unbreakable, yet it can be easily pierced with bullets, in the books the Chief can move so fast that bullets move in slow motion but he can't dodge bullets in the game, in the books the Chief can run a kilometer in 9 seconds flat with a torn ankle, yet in Halo 1 he can't run a mile in 6 MINUTES, with a good ankle. He has to take a Warthog.

Full of contradictions.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Exactly. It's the thread starters decision. Non-canon material can be used as long as the thread starter says it can. Ya know the Halo novels are also non-canon to right? CANON UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE.

It hasn't been officially stated non-canon, it's in the same boat as the Halo novels.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
It hasn't been officially stated non-canon, it's in the same boat as the Halo novels. CFE has never been stated as noncanon, but it still is, it has never been confirmed canon.

How do you know? They were licenced by the creators of the show.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
How do you know? They were licenced by the creators of the show. CFE was made by Capcom. It is STILL noncanon.

CFE?

I thought we were talking about the comics.. I don't even know what CFE is.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
CFE?

I thought we were talking about the comics.. I don't even know what CFE is. Capcom Fighting Evolution, a videogame by Capcom, which has many different Capcom 2D fighters(also features Pyron as main boss). It is noncanon, I used it as an example.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
It hasn't been officially stated non-canon, it's in the same boat as the Halo novels.

So was a Star Wars comic that showed Vader doing Force Lighting despite Lucas saying Vader was incapable of doing. Just because something was licenced by the creator(s) doesn't make it canon when it contradicts the main source (in this case the games).

oh.. kay.

I know nothing about that.. eh. But I still assert that the pokemon comics are in the same boat as the Halo novels as far as canon is concerned.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
So was a Star Wars comic that showed Vader doing Force Lighting despite Lucas saying Vader was incapable of doing. Just because something was licenced by the creator(s) doesn't make it canon when it contradicts the main source (in this case the games).

Except this was officially retconned by the creators.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Except this was officially retconned by the creators.

So MC had to take a Warthog to save himself despite the novels saying he can run a kilometer in 9 seconds?

Yes. And not just run it in nine seconds, nine seconds with a bad ankle.

Rawr. Rant about Mewtwo's exclusion from Brawl. (embedding of these videos were disabled by request)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhNVdUpzq1E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sGE31uZgE

He crossed the line there, he crossed the line by asking why Mr. Game and watch was still in the game, because he owns that's why.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
He crossed the line there, he crossed the line by asking why Mr. Game and watch was still in the game
Not really ...

Even if Game&Watch "owns", he still could've gotten cut from Brawl without much complaints by the majority. In fact, I wouldn't of had a problem if Game&Watch got the boot. Mewtwo on the other hand is far more popular and one of my favorite characters, so I do have a problem with him getting the boot, especially since he wasn't a cloned character like Falco and company.

Sarcasm does not seem to work on a forum...

Mr. G&W is alright just not great.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Sarcasm does not seem to work on a forum...

Mr. G&W is alright just not great.
Oh. In that case, I agree.

Glad to hear.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Rawr. Rant about Mewtwo's exclusion from Brawl. (embedding of these videos were disabled by request)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhNVdUpzq1E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sGE31uZgE
Oh. Turns out there's a 3rd part to that rant...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMOazK_VDw

Rawr. Mewtwo strikes back (again).

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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
In fact, I wouldn't of had a problem if Game&Watch got the boot. Mewtwo on the other hand is far more popular and one of my favorite characters, so I do have a problem with him getting the boot, especially since he wasn't a cloned character like Falco and company.

Exactly. I would much rather play with Mewtwo than Mr. Game & Watch.

Besides, I can't stand those irritating noises that he makes.

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K. Rool would have made great editions to the game, considering that it would be hard to turn them into clones.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
Exactly. I would much rather play with Mewtwo than Mr. Game & Watch.

Besides, I can't stand those irritating noises that he makes.
Heh. Me neither. It's funny though when you hear those noises in Tiny Melee.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
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K. Rool would have made great editions to the game, considering that it would be hard to turn them into clones.
Apparently Sakurai succeeded in doing that with Ridley (since he's just a Master Hand clone)...

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Heh. Me neither. It's funny though when you hear those noises in Tiny Melee.

Yeah, but it's worse when you hear them in Giant Melee.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Apparently Sakurai succeeded in doing that with Ridley (since he's just a Master Hand clone)...

Bad move.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
Yeah, but it's worse when you hear them in Giant Melee.
True.

Har har.

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As much as I love Wolf (especially playing as him in Brawl), couldn't resist posting that.

Vid showing Mewtwo's best feats outside of his fight with Mew...
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Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
Vid showing Mewtwo's best feats outside of his fight with Mew...
Best feats in the first movie outside his fight with Mew, that is (there's also Mewtwo Returns).

But yeah. Good stuff. His feats are a lot more impressive than anything any other Pokemon's been known to do (well, with the exception of Arceus).

Other Pokemon like Lucario will basically be forgotten about by the next gaming generation or so, just like Blaziken and Deoxys were. Basically a fad. Like Pikachu, Mewtwo's been around since the beginning of the series, and will always be remembered.

Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
Vid showing Mewtwo's best feats outside of his fight with Mew...
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Far from it, my Pyron-worshipping friend

First of all, that is not his best feats.
Secondly, compared to what he has done, the fight against Mew is pathetic.
Thirdly, this is from the first movie. He is more powerful in the next one he is part of.

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Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Far from it, my Pyron-worshipping friend

First of all, that is not his best feats.

So, in what other movies does he easily cause giant nuke level explosions? None? Gotcha.



It was his best fight in any of the movies.



His best feat in Returns was lifting a lake.
In the first movie he was manipulating weather on a global scale.
The latter is far more impressive.

1. The weather manipulate was not part of the video you posted. The giant explosion is not impressive at all compared to the weather manipulate. That was what I meant when I said that it was not his best feat.
2. It was not much of a fight
3. Mewtwo is more powerful in the second movie. He also did not lift a lake. He translocated it entirely. Manipulating the global weather IS his most impressive feat, but that does not mean he was most powerful while doing so. When he blew up Giovanni's facility he was at his weakest state.

1. Fine.
2. It's the best showing of combat speed he has. Flying is nice but people like to know fighters can battle at those high speeds. Mew's and Mewtwo's fights confirm that. It also shows he can make nice little explosive TK balls which are helpful too.
3. Fair enough.

1. In your face!
2. It is his best fight, but it was not much of a fight. He would have won it if Ash did not get in the way
3. In your face!

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Heehee, PIG got pwned.

No He was just not paying attention to what I was actually saying

DJ is just sucking up to try and get in your pants.

Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
DJ is just sucking up to try and get in your pants. No way, you're more my type sweetie.

Well..um...thanks?
*maces you and runs away*

Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
DJ is just sucking up to try and get in your pants.

Getting in them is not much of a challenge

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Getting in them is not much of a challenge

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Anyway! To remain on topic: Most people relate Mewtwo to the movie version, but in fact Mewtwo is EXTREMELY powerful in the game as well. He has a large varity of skills and a full-taught Mewtwo can do quite a lot more than just what is seen in the movies.

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Secondly, compared to what he has done, the fight against Mew is pathetic.
Agreed.

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Thirdly, this is from the first movie. He is more powerful in the next one he is part of.
Yeah, or at least he claims that to Giovanni.

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
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Ah yes. I saw those 2.

Love the song on that last one. Disturbed still rocks.

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
When he blew up Giovanni's facility he was at his weakest state.
That's one other thing about him that impresses me.

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
2. It is his best fight, but it was not much of a fight. He would have won it if Ash did not get in the way
True.

Mewtwo and Mew may have seemed evenly matched in their fight, but with Mewtwo being a clone of him, created with powers far stronger than the original, he would've eventually won.

I would've loved to see that fight dragged out. Stupid Ash...

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Getting in them is not much of a challenge
Heh...

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
Anyway! To remain on topic: Most people relate Mewtwo to the movie version, but in fact Mewtwo is EXTREMELY powerful in the game as well. He has a large varity of skills and a full-taught Mewtwo can do quite a lot more than just what is seen in the movies.
True.

Even in the current Pokemon games, Mewtwo's still one of the strongest ever (if not the strongest) if used correctly (even though he can be easily KO'ed by some others if done properly). Not to mention, Mewtwo does learn Aura Sphere (Lucario's signature move) in Diamond/Pearl at level 100.
Dark-types and steel-types are no longer a threat to him.

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All of Lucario's moves in Smash Brothers Brawl could've been Mewtwo's.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Yeah, or at least he claims that to Giovanni.

He is more powerful. Earlier he determined power by destruction, but he has reached a new level of awareness now and as his mind expands in understanding, so does his powers.

He surely has not grown weaker