venom vs juggernaut
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Black Spiderman
who would be the superior villian on a 1 on 1 fight
Black Spiderman
I think venom would win since juggernauts main abilities is strength if venom can get past that he wood win
Jason Wyngarde
juggy already brutally beat his ass in the comics. in wasnt even close.
Victor Von Doom
Juggernaut.
Alpha Centauri
*Yawn*
Juggernaut.
-AC
moshtitan
i bet this has been discussed in so many other threads....too bad some noobs dont read other ttopics before goin on threadd makin sprees.
Jason Wyngarde
yeah we have had some thread spree in the past week. they will go unamed but everyone knows how they are
FeceMan
You know, Black Spiderman, I was holding off on putting you in my signature because I thought you just might be new to the comics genre. However, with these moronic posts and your inability to use the goddamn edit button, your name is going straight there.
moshtitan
hahaha, thats awesome........

...........

ha ha ha!
SUPERMANDAMAN

If he could be past it ?????? he wouldnt get past nothin do u even know who juggernaut is?
baddspellahl4
this fight has happened multiple times and venom got his symbiote ass whooped every time
Maestro
how old is this thread, you must of gone wayyyyy back to find this.
baddspellahl4
only to page 17
lightaxe
why would you restart this thread, i mean the guy already got banned.
FeceMan
Yeah. Sheesh, talk about mass bumpage. Oops, I'm being a hypocrite. Oh, well, +1 for FeceMan.
Tron
Cocaine's a helluva drug.
baddspellahl4
haha. hey hey hey, smoke weed every day
lightaxe
two different songs homes.
Venom Dude No.1
i think Venom would win because he is really smart so he can figure out a way to beat the big freak, and I know also that Spider-Man has beaten juggy so that means that Venom can do it too. Of course if Juggernaut would grap Venom then Venom is in really DEEP SHIT! But I know that Venom is the guy who doesn't care if his opponent is stronger than he is and he would probably fight until one of them dies... He also has Spider-sense and webbing which certainly comes in handy at this fight, i think he would web juggy then he would attack the helmet which seems to bee Juggy's big weakness then he would eat juggys brain like he does to his victims... besides juggy isn't smart enough to figure out that only Sonics and Fire can hurt Venom. If you have seen Robocop 2 then you know what i mean when I said that Venom would attack his helmet and totally destroy him like Robo did to Cain who was even more powerful than robo was...
I don't think Venom will defeat juggy very easy but in the end of the fight I think Venom is the winner. If you say that Juggy would destroy Venom then I respect you for that because thats what you think and this is what I think, that means you have YOUR OWN truth and I ahve MY OWN truth
End of discussion...
willRules
Wow Juggernaut will kill and rape venom...........
newjak86
Originally posted by Venom Dude No.1
i think Venom would win because he is really smart so he can figure out a way to beat the big freak, and I know also that Spider-Man has beaten juggy so that means that Venom can do it too. Of course if Juggernaut would grap Venom then Venom is in really DEEP SHIT! But I know that Venom is the guy who doesn't care if his opponent is stronger than he is and he would probably fight until one of them dies... He also has Spider-sense and webbing which certainly comes in handy at this fight, i think he would web juggy then he would attack the helmet which seems to bee Juggy's big weakness then he would eat juggys brain like he does to his victims... besides juggy isn't smart enough to figure out that only Sonics and Fire can hurt Venom. If you have seen Robocop 2 then you know what i mean when I said that Venom would attack his helmet and totally destroy him like Robo did to Cain who was even more powerful than robo was...
I don't think Venom will defeat juggy very easy but in the end of the fight I think Venom is the winner. If you say that Juggy would destroy Venom then I respect you for that because thats what you think and this is what I think, that means you have YOUR OWN truth and I ahve MY OWN truth
End of discussion... Yeah Spiderman beat him getting Juggernaut to walk and bury himself in cement.
Listen man Juggernaut has insane strength is indestructible. He could probably lift Venom's max with a finger. Juggernaut's helmet coming off only matter if Venom has become a telepath all of a sudden. His power no was fluctuates with the helmet off. The helmet's only function is to protect Cain from Mental attacks. Webbing please Juggernaut has already walked through Spiderman's webbing no problem without his force field up. Venom gets slaughtered big time.
jinzin
juggernaught... although if venom was able to remove his helmet he could cause massive damage with symbiotic illusions in juggy's brain and secure a victory that way... but it ain't likely to happen.
jinzin
Originally posted by baddspellahl4
this fight has happened multiple times and venom got his symbiote ass whooped every time
ummm no...this fight happened 3 times and the only time juggernaught won was during a fight in which venom was hardly even paying attention to him....

Jvenom
You are right Jinzin Venom raped Juggernaut two out of the three times they met. People should start reading The Madness 2 and 3 after they read part 1.
Tha C-Master
Venom the madness coud do some stuff, otherwise it'd have to be a mindrape...
jinzin
Originally posted by Jvenom
You are right Jinzin Venom raped Juggernaut two out of the three times they met. People should start reading The Madness 2 and 3 after they read part 1.
pffft. even the ones that have read the first one don't get the fact that venom 1: was distracted and attempting to save becks life in the process. 2: shrugged off juggernaughts hits with a literal smile. 3:got even further distracted by the voices he was hearing to the point where he wasn't even fighting back 4: got hit into some water where he simply resolved to eventually get back up again....
yeah he lost...but did juggy do it without factors that would have made the fight more interesting? no.
did venom kick his ass later on with the madness virus? yes...
did he later make juggs run away after the madness virus started to die off and stop helping venom? hell yes.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
pffft. even the ones that have read the first one don't get the fact that venom 1: was distracted and attempting to save becks life in the process. 2: shrugged off juggernaughts hits with a literal smile. 3:got even further distracted by the voices he was hearing to the point where he wasn't even fighting back 4: got hit into some water where he simply resolved to eventually get back up again....
yeah he lost...but did juggy do it without factors that would have made the fight more interesting? no.
did venom kick his ass later on with the madness virus? yes...
did he later make juggs run away after the madness virus started to die off and stop helping venom? hell yes. Yet wolverine is a tie...

jinzin
oh for the love of god...is that the "C" master posting after me? WoW I NEVER would have guessed

what a surprise!

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
oh for the love of god...is that the "C" master posting after me? WoW I NEVER would have guessed

what a surprise!

Jinzin is ignoring me again, what a surprise!!!!
Jvenom
I love the first fight between those two. How many could fight the Juggernaut and still keep talking through out the fight. Venom just kept on making fun of him. That shows how little Juggernaut was compared to Venom. Also you are right he was distracted and did not really to to fight back.
TwisterGameX
Originally posted by jinzin
oh for the love of god...is that the "C" master posting after me? WoW I NEVER would have guessed

what a surprise!
I don't know, because i can't see him either

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Jvenom
I love the first fight between those two. How many could fight the Juggernaut and still keep talking through out the fight. Venom just kept on making fun of him. That shows how little Juggernaut was compared to Venom. lol
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
I don't know, because i can't see him either

backpatting, grand.
I gotta post that ownage in offtopic.
jinzin
pppftttt.sad bald little.....
just keeps posting don't he?
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
pppftttt.sad bald little.....
just keeps posting don't he? Just keeps pposting don't he???
I swear... you are dense but this...
Jvenom
I hate people that cannot stand the fact that Venom kicked Juggernaut's and Superman's butt. He pounded on both until little Juggy ran away like a girl and Superman needed Spider-Man's help.
Jvenom
If he did it he did it, why argue?
jinzin
Originally posted by Jvenom
If he did it he did it, why argue?
this is why...
"i don't like it...it didn't happen"
Tha C-Master
*sigh*
Two examples of a lost cause, there is no more logic here to be had.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Jvenom
If he did it he did it, why argue? exactly. If you aren't going to use logic, and just say "it happened".
Why debate here? You already know the answer.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
this is why...
"i don't like it...it didn't happen" This coming from the guy who doesn't like spiderman vs firelord?
That happened...
I guess you don't like it then, huh?
Metalmanx
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
I don't know, because i can't see him either
That's kinda sad that both you and Jinzin must resort to ignoring C-Master instead of trying to counter his debates like you do in say...a forum. Such as this one.
I mean, I can't tell you guys what to do, I just find it very immature.
Metalmanx
How the hell did Venom beat Superman? Seriously. I have no idea about this.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's kinda sad that both you and Jinzin must resort to ignoring C-Master instead of trying to counter his debates like you do in say...a forum. Such as this one.
I mean, I can't tell you guys what to do, I just find it very immature. Its what they do...
Old tactic, make an excuse and put me on ignore, showing cowardice.
I could see if I was this horrible, horrible man.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
How the hell did Venom beat Superman? Seriously. I have no idea about this. Wolverine vs Lobo style.
Jvenom
Think of it this way. The symbiote can enhance ones powers or strengths 40 times. When someone is under great stress they are able to do amazing things like lift a six ton rock off some body. When Brock is in a fight his symbiote could just give him an adrenalin rush to increase his strenght since it is able to control his bodily functions. By doing this he is able to lift a few tons times 40. This way he is able to match superman, hulk, and juggernaut for short periods of times. This is most likely how he is able to go up agaist these heavy hitters and come out on top. It that locial enough for you. Think about it 40 times five to six tons in 100 to 120 tons. That is 100 class strength for limitted periods. In the past the comics said the costume never increased Spider-Man's strenght because it never felt the need too. Spider-Man already had amazing strength but think of how strong he would have been if it did?
jinzin
Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's kinda sad that both you and Jinzin must resort to ignoring C-Master instead of trying to counter his debates like you do in say...a forum. Such as this one.
I mean, I can't tell you guys what to do, I just find it very immature.
hey man..I "debated" with him like crazy but the fact is the kid makes shit up and lies about things I've never said... that along with his off topic tangents and the fact that when I did give him long thought out posts like I did for you in the cyber ninja thread and all I got in return were two sentences that basically equated to "nu-uh, you're a fanboy" well I just don't feel he's worth my time...
a great number of people who actually debate against him come to realize this...it's not just us two...
meh, whatever... I give someone the same espect they in turn give me... that's why I like you metalman you never really got a bad thing to say to me that's uncalled for or anything..so I have a tremendous amount of respect for you...
"C" masta didn't earn it, I gave him the ben of the doubt on multiple occasions and he threw it back into my face...so to hell with him...
Originally posted by Metalmanx
How the hell did Venom beat Superman? Seriously. I have no idea about this.
in all fairness... superman was recovering from a setback that occured in the superman comics and was reduced to 50% of his strength... probably even less... while venom didn't beat an all out supes it is a testement to how badass venom can be...and to the fact that (as I suspected) superman isn't quite as impressive when he lacks his strength/durability...
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
hey man..I "debated" with him like crazy but the fact is the kid makes shit up and lies about things I've never said... that along with his off topic tangents and the fact that when I did give him long thought out posts like I did for you in the cyber ninja thread and all I got in return were two sentences that basically equated to "nu-uh, you're a fanboy" well I just don't feel he's worth my time...
a great number of people who actually debate against him come to realize this...it's not just us two...
meh, whatever... I give someone the same espect they in turn give me... that's why I like you metalman you never really got a bad thing to say to me that's uncalled for or anything..so I have a tremendous amount of respect for you...
"C" masta didn't earn it, I gave him the ben of the doubt on multiple occasions and he threw it back into my face...so to hell with him...
in all fairness... superman was recovering from a setback that occured in the superman comics and was reduced to 50% of his strength... probably even less... while venom didn't beat an all out supes it is a testement to how badass venom can be...and to the fact that (as I suspected) superman isn't quite as impressive when he lacks his strength/durability... Liar I went over your posts, like I do everyone, point for point.
You are a fanboy though... many people realize that, and only fanboys whine about how I post so whatever....
jinzin
pffft.
the "C" masta responding to my posts again I presume....

he just doesn't get it....
Tha C-Master
Jinzin ignoring me again, I guess he just doesnt get what a public forum is...
fanboy
jinzin
another response... I must be right.... friggin goofball...

Tha C-Master
Ignoring me, jesus...
He must like me...
Jvenom
c-master how about responding with an answer that does not invovle making fun of someone. I have given you a good answer and so has jinzin in the past. You need to grow up a little.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Jvenom
c-master how about responding with an answer that does not invovle making fun of someone. I have given you a good answer and so has jinzin in the past. You need to grow up a little. Did I not answer your post?
And if I remember correctly my name was mentioned first, how about that?
I'm finding it funny you side with someone who agrees with you, instead of saying "break it up" you blame ME.
Tell him to keep my name out of his mouth, or did you miss the earlier post by metalman?
But you're new, what do you know about the past, zip.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Jvenom
Think of it this way. The symbiote can enhance ones powers or strengths 40 times. When someone is under great stress they are able to do amazing things like lift a six ton rock off some body. When Brock is in a fight his symbiote could just give him an adrenalin rush to increase his strenght since it is able to control his bodily functions. By doing this he is able to lift a few tons times 40. This way he is able to match superman, hulk, and juggernaut for short periods of times. This is most likely how he is able to go up agaist these heavy hitters and come out on top. It that locial enough for you. Think about it 40 times five to six tons in 100 to 120 tons. That is 100 class strength for limitted periods. In the past the comics said the costume never increased Spider-Man's strenght because it never felt the need too. Spider-Man already had amazing strength but think of how strong he would have been if it did? venom isn't class 40, and he definitely isn't class 100.
Did you miss juggernaut vs hulk, there's little hulk can do.
Use logic in your arguments please, and stop missing out on facts.
he could hit like superman and not scratch juggernaut, do you read other comics besides spiderman?
leotorthegreat
i say venom hes way to smart juggernauts all muscle
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by leotorthegreat
i say venom hes way to smart juggernauts all muscle venom aint the smartest, and juggernaut is simply too strong, he has a forcefield and everything...
leotorthegreat
true but juggernauts dumb muscle bound self is gonna come chargin in thinking hes uff and fall right into one of venoms traps
long pig
What traps? No prep time is given here.
Saying Venom beat Jug with a powerboost of the madness is like saying Jug beat Thor in two punches while in 8th day mode. It's true, but it's not relevant to the thread at hand. Why? Because it was a ****ing boost.
Venom has shown to be able to handle decent amounts of damage, but not over a lengthy amount of time(99% of people see the madness as P.I.S & C.I.S combined.).
The point is, Venom really can't do anything, Jug can.
Jug wins. 10/10
jinzin
Originally posted by long pig
What traps? No prep time is given here.
Saying Venom beat Jug with a powerboost of the madness is like saying Jug beat Thor in two punches while in 8th day mode. It's true, but it's not relevant to the thread at hand. Why? Because it was a ****ing boost.
Venom has shown to be able to handle decent amounts of damage, but not over a lengthy amount of time(99% of people see the madness as P.I.S & C.I.S combined.).
The point is, Venom really can't do anything, Jug can.
Jug wins. 10/10
actually venom later made juggy run away like a little girl the final time they threw down and that was without help from the madness virus...
also venom CAN do damage to juggernaught in a big big way if he can pull juggernaught's helmet off or sever the bolts of it...I just don't think that's likely to happen..but yes..there is a small chance he could win.
long pig
Like how?
What can he do after he gets the helmet off? Try to go up his nose? Jug would snort him like a line of high grade cocaine.
Jug also ran away from Beast because "He...he scared me!", does that make Beast Jug's equal/superior?
No, it makes Jugs an idiot.
Anything foreign inside Jug's body will be seen as a disease/virus and be purged via magical enchantment.
Venom can't win, the only possible reason he was capable of even slightly stalemating Jugs is because of immense C.I.S/P.I.S.
Oh, and uhhhhhhhhhhh SONIC CLAP! (Not a cosmic V.D)
Jug has Venom's greatest weakness litterally in the friggin palm of his hands.
C'mon jinzin....
jinzin
and is far too stupid to use it... no seriously venom can use his symbiotic other to literally instill mind wrenching nightmares into cains brain where he won't be able to tell distorted visions from reality..it's cheap but it's a win...and venom's certainly capable of it...
I just keep bringing up the fact that juggy ran away because people often remember the first fight, but have selective memories about the next two.
long pig
They don't forget about it, they dismiss it. And rightly so.
How exactly does Venom install nightmares?
jinzin
Originally posted by long pig
They don't forget about it, they dismiss it. And rightly so.
How exactly does Venom install nightmares?
I don't know the particualars of how it works..but it has something to do with the way that symbiotes mess with host's minds.. the way she-venom became more hostile in personality traits, spider-carnage too... only what I'm talking about is like a complete mind wipe/install (whatever) carnage did it to a poor cop and sent him to the loony bin... this is a huge weapon to use in terms of juggy's weakneses.
Venom Dude No.1
Juggy is nothing without his helmet, at least that's what I know. Venom would outsmart Juggy and attack Juggys mind and then destroy him. It doesn't occure Venom that Juggernaut has strength enough to destroy the symbiote. Also in the comics Venom made Juggy run away like a LITTLE SISSY

When I said that Venom would web Juggy I meant that after that Venom has taken Juggys helmet, he would web juggy and destroy him. BESIDES, Juggernaut isn't smart enough to figure out that only Sonics and Fire is what really hurts Venom
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
actually venom later made juggy run away like a little girl the final time they threw down and that was without help from the madness virus...
also venom CAN do damage to juggernaught in a big big way if he can pull juggernaught's helmet off or sever the bolts of it...I just don't think that's likely to happen..but yes..there is a small chance he could win. Do we realize how much effort this takes?
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Venom Dude No.1
Juggy is nothing without his helmet, at least that's what I know. Venom would outsmart Juggy and attack Juggys mind and then destroy him. It doesn't occure Venom that Juggernaut has strength enough to destroy the symbiote. Also in the comics Venom made Juggy run away like a LITTLE SISSY

When I said that Venom would web Juggy I meant that after that Venom has taken Juggys helmet, he would web juggy and destroy him. BESIDES, Juggernaut isn't smart enough to figure out that only Sonics and Fire is what really hurts Venom You sure about the helmet part, and again hypothetical debate.
Jvenom
C-master after reading this post you must be an idiot. I never said Venom was 40 class. I said the symbiote increases ones powers or strengths 40 times. This means with Brocks strenth he could lift about 20 to 25 tons. Do you not know what a ton is. Is mathematics that hard for you. Then I said if he gets an adrenalin boost making Brock's strength more in the way some people can lift a five ton rock off somebody in certain situtions he can become stronger for short periods of time. In some situtions people can gain amazing strength with an adrenalin rush. The costume can control this, there by increasing in strength. You shoud really read the post or at least try to understand it before speaking again. If Brock is able to increase his strength where he could lift four or five tons as a human which he could since people have done it with huge amounts of adrenalin he could match the likes of Juggernaut for a short time. Short time is the key words here because adrenlin in the body is short lived.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Jvenom
C-master after reading this post you must be an idiot.
Great yet another fanboy, I think you are wrong, and a hypocrite, considered you just started insulting me.
You think he can beat superman and juggernaut, please, your credibility is going nowhere in this forum, you are a fanboy of the highest degree.
You use shitty crossovers to support your premise, and you use no logic or reasoning, period.
Read other comics BESIDES the ones with venom in it kid.
Originally posted by Jvenom
I never said Venom was 40 class.
So you are saying he is in class 100 after an adrenaline boost stupid, you know nothing of what you are talking about.
I fight and stuff in training, I edit novels and read the dictionary for a hobby, don't try to discuss semantics with me, when your premise is so flawed, and you are a damn fanboy.
Originally posted by Jvenom
I said the symbiote increases ones powers or strengths 40 times.
No wrong again.
Brocks powers are from a copy of spiderman, each host it gets alittle stornger, the reason brock has gotten so strong is because he lifts weights to keep himself in peak shape.
So you are a fanboy who knows little about his character also, how about that?
Originally posted by Jvenom
This means with Brocks strenth he could lift about 20 to 25 tons. Do you not know what a ton is.
I know how much a ton is, a ton is 2000 lbs, a tonne is 2400 lbs.
That means by your increase he hits the 100 ton class, which is just absurd.
Originally posted by Jvenom
s mathematics that hard for you.
You know little about your own character, he is street level, and you have a fanboy delusion telling you that he beats people like superman and hulk and juggernaut.
Hulk that destroyed an aesteroid?
Hulk that bent adamantium, and stretched the cosmic cube, and moved the blob?
Superman that moved a planet.
Juggernaut won't be scratched by brocks BEST hits, therefore your argument is absurd.
Originally posted by Jvenom
Then I said if he gets an adrenalin boost making Brock's strength more in the way some people can lift a five ton rock off somebody in certain situtions he can become stronger for short periods of time.
"adrenaline", learn to spell.
I know what adrenaline is quite well I fought overseas.
You don't need to bother voicing your shitty opinion, just sit back and listen.
Originally posted by Jvenom
In some situtions people can gain amazing strength with an adrenalin rush.
and?
Will it hurt juggernaut, no.
So lets let logic conclude that, no matter how strong he gets he ISN'T hurting juggernaut.
You are wrong plain and simple, and the fact that you think that this is venom the madness makes you that much more rediculous.
Originally posted by Jvenom
The costume can control this, there by increasing in strength.
The strength won't hurt juggernaut, what part of that don't you understand?
Colossus can't, thing can't, hulk (the strongest character in marvel by the way) can't , so what makes you think venom can?
Fanboyism thats right, stupid fanboyism that has plauged this forum.
Originally posted by Jvenom
You shoud really read the post or at least try to understand it before speaking again.
You need to stop backpatting jinzin, but you are as bad as him with logic, you also need to use logic.
Lets see: juggernaut "immune to physical harm"
Venom, isn't, and he can't hurt juggernaut.
Will a strength increase matter, no not really.
Why do you people post this tripe, and then act so smug and sarcastic.
I've seen your posts the last few days, and they are not impressive.
I like venom MUCH more than I like juggernaut, the difference is I'm objective.
I just served you up like a 10 oclock concession, go read a comic AND use logic before talking next time young man.
You've been served.
Originally posted by Jvenom
If Brock is able to increase his strength where he could lift four or five tons as a human which he could since people have done it with huge amounts of adrenalin he could match the likes of Juggernaut for a short time.
No, your premise is flawed severly, you also shot down your own argument.
You don't know the rules of the forum or anything.
What happens when the adrenaline wears off, and brock has exausted his energy, and juggernaut is laughing?
Originally posted by Jvenom
Short time is the key words here because adrenlin in the body is short lived.
Thank you for realizing that, there may be hope for you yet.
No, not really there isn't.
superman302
OWNED!!! yea and juggernaut wins but you cant blamed the fan boys for trying
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by superman302
OWNED!!! yea and juggernaut wins but you cant blamed the fan boys for trying I'm tired of them really, jesus.
And they are rude to boot.
jgiant
Sweet ownage!!

Jvenom
The costume does increase ones strength 40 times. I have ever Venom comic and seen it. I can give you a list of comics where it has done that. I also know something about adrenaline because I am a prison guard so I don't care if you served over seas that just means you are a baby killer.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Jvenom
The costume does increase ones strength 40 times. I have ever Venom comic and seen it. I can give you a list of comics where it has done that. I also know something about adrenaline because I am a prison guard so I don't care if you served over seas that just means you are a baby killer.
It is a copy of spiderman's attributes.
With cloaking etc.
Again does it matter no, so why bring it up.
I am a baby killer lol, I'm the reason you sleep safe at night.
Metalmanx
Originally posted by jinzin
actually venom later made juggy run away like a little girl the final time they threw down and that was without help from the madness virus...
also venom CAN do damage to juggernaught in a big big way if he can pull juggernaught's helmet off or sever the bolts of it...I just don't think that's likely to happen..but yes..there is a small chance he could win.
I don't even mean this in a mean way, but what can Venom do once Jugg's helmet is off? Not that I believe Venom will ever get that close to Juggernaut without being ripped in half...but what could Venom do?
Tha C-Master
All they are doing is using plot devices, no solid argument.
Metalmanx
Originally posted by Jvenom
C-master after reading this post you must be an idiot. I never said Venom was 40 class. I said the symbiote increases ones powers or strengths 40 times. This means with Brocks strenth he could lift about 20 to 25 tons. Do you not know what a ton is. Is mathematics that hard for you. Then I said if he gets an adrenalin boost making Brock's strength more in the way some people can lift a five ton rock off somebody in certain situtions he can become stronger for short periods of time. In some situtions people can gain amazing strength with an adrenalin rush. The costume can control this, there by increasing in strength. You shoud really read the post or at least try to understand it before speaking again. If Brock is able to increase his strength where he could lift four or five tons as a human which he could since people have done it with huge amounts of adrenalin he could match the likes of Juggernaut for a short time. Short time is the key words here because adrenlin in the body is short lived.
I really hope you were just exaggerating when you said people can lift a five ton rock even in the most extreme adrenaline-pumped situations.
I really hope.
And besides, let's say that Venom's strength does increase with adrenaline. Let's say...3-4 times?
Venom's strength (even after boost)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Juggernaut's strength
Plus, you know, that whole "invulnerability" Juggs has going for him. Let's not forget that now.
That's why what you're saying doesn't make any sense.
Juntai
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I really hope you were just exaggerating when you said people can lift a five ton rock even in the most extreme adrenaline-pumped situations.
I really hope.
And besides, let's say that Venom's strength does increase with adrenaline. Let's say...3-4 times?
Venom's strength (even after boost)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Juggernaut's strength
Plus, you know, that whole "invulnerability" Juggs has going for him. Let's not forget that now.
That's why what you're saying doesn't make any sense. I can lift a five ton rock.
Tha C-Master
With ice in your blood.... lol
Metalmanx
Originally posted by Jvenom
I also know something about adrenaline because I am a prison guard so I don't care if you served over seas that just means you are a baby killer.
...That was very much uncalled for, friend. Really. Don't even bring that crap in here if you're to be doing that.
NoFate007
I would have to say Juggernaut if we're talking about the classic one. Other versions seem to be much weaker, and Venom could take those, but the superpowered freakin insane Juggernaut wins this otherwise.
jgiant
"I lifted a five ton rock"
Awesome....Where did you do this?
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Metalmanx
...That was very much uncalled for, friend. Really. Don't even bring that crap in here if you're to be doing that. somehow I seem to get the blame though...
meep-meep
Originally posted by Jvenom
C-master after reading this post you must be an idiot. I never said Venom was 40 class. I said the symbiote increases ones powers or strengths 40 times. This means with Brocks strenth he could lift about 20 to 25 tons. Do you not know what a ton is. Is mathematics that hard for you. Then I said if he gets an adrenalin boost making Brock's strength more in the way some people can lift a five ton rock off somebody in certain situtions he can become stronger for short periods of time. In some situtions people can gain amazing strength with an adrenalin rush. The costume can control this, there by increasing in strength. You shoud really read the post or at least try to understand it before speaking again. If Brock is able to increase his strength where he could lift four or five tons as a human which he could since people have done it with huge amounts of adrenalin he could match the likes of Juggernaut for a short time. Short time is the key words here because adrenlin in the body is short lived.
So, are you stating that Venoms' base strength level (Eddie Brock Venom) is 20-25 tons? It states in Mavels bios that Venoms base strength is around 11 tons. A lttle less actually. All this calculating isn't adding up if Marvel is right. Was it ever depicted that Eddie Brock with out the suit lifted this amount of weight(4-5tons)? Speculating that he could have is just speculation. Unless you or anyone has seen him do this than a person can only assume, and assumption usually isn't good evidence if a person is trying to prove a point.
Also on the topic of Venom somehow getting inside Cains helmet and goingup his nose or in his ears, well I don't think he could. Cain doesn't need to eat, sleep or breath. He can be in the vacuum of space and not be affected. I think it has something to do with Cyttoraks' gem providing somesort of protective layer over his skin. If for some reason Venom did get his helmet off than Venom would have a much better chance of getting Cain to become terrified due to Venoms nightmare inducing powers. I don't know much about these nightmare powers though so, I wouldn't rely on those, personally. I say Juggernaut punches him..straight to the moon.
meep-meep
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Great yet another fanboy, I think you are wrong, and a hypocrite, considered you just started insulting me.
You think he can beat superman and juggernaut, please, your credibility is going nowhere in this forum, you are a fanboy of the highest degree.
You use shitty crossovers to support your premise, and you use no logic or reasoning, period.
Read other comics BESIDES the ones with venom in it kid.
So you are saying he is in class 100 after an adrenaline boost stupid, you know nothing of what you are talking about.
I fight and stuff in training, I edit novels and read the dictionary for a hobby, don't try to discuss semantics with me, when your premise is so flawed, and you are a damn fanboy.
No wrong again.
Brocks powers are from a copy of spiderman, each host it gets alittle stornger, the reason brock has gotten so strong is because he lifts weights to keep himself in peak shape.
So you are a fanboy who knows little about his character also, how about that?
I know how much a ton is, a ton is 2000 lbs, a tonne is 2400 lbs.
That means by your increase he hits the 100 ton class, which is just absurd.
You know little about your own character, he is street level, and you have a fanboy delusion telling you that he beats people like superman and hulk and juggernaut.
Hulk that destroyed an aesteroid?
Hulk that bent adamantium, and stretched the cosmic cube, and moved the blob?
Superman that moved a planet.
Juggernaut won't be scratched by brocks BEST hits, therefore your argument is absurd.
"adrenaline", learn to spell.
I know what adrenaline is quite well I fought overseas.
You don't need to bother voicing your shitty opinion, just sit back and listen.
and?
Will it hurt juggernaut, no.
So lets let logic conclude that, no matter how strong he gets he ISN'T hurting juggernaut.
You are wrong plain and simple, and the fact that you think that this is venom the madness makes you that much more rediculous.
The strength won't hurt juggernaut, what part of that don't you understand?
Colossus can't, thing can't, hulk (the strongest character in marvel by the way) can't , so what makes you think venom can?
Fanboyism thats right, stupid fanboyism that has plauged this forum.
You need to stop backpatting jinzin, but you are as bad as him with logic, you also need to use logic.
Lets see: juggernaut "immune to physical harm"
Venom, isn't, and he can't hurt juggernaut.
Will a strength increase matter, no not really.
Why do you people post this tripe, and then act so smug and sarcastic.
I've seen your posts the last few days, and they are not impressive.
I like venom MUCH more than I like juggernaut, the difference is I'm objective.
I just served you up like a 10 oclock concession, go read a comic AND use logic before talking next time young man.
You've been served.
No, your premise is flawed severly, you also shot down your own argument.
You don't know the rules of the forum or anything.
What happens when the adrenaline wears off, and brock has exausted his energy, and juggernaut is laughing?
Thank you for realizing that, there may be hope for you yet.
No, not really there isn't.
Wow, seems like someone pissed off C-mas.

Tha C-Master
fanboys, sigh
I was trying to be nice, but...
newjak86
Here I hate to ruin the Venom Fanboys parade but in the second fight when Venom didn't have the Madness Virus and Juggs ran away. What did juugs say. The money isn't worth this. Venom used his speed and strength to gain a temporay adavantage against a Juggs that wasn't that serious. ZI hate to tell you this but when Juggs gets serious about beating on people he does it.
Thor one example he beat him with pleasure Hulk another. Heck Spiderman once he got serious about beating Spiderman he collapsed a whole roof on him.
Colossus is another Cain got mad and punched Colossus out in one POunch.
Thing in Three.
Venom Dude No.1
It's true that in The Madness part 1 juggy trashed Venom pretty good but only because Venom couldn't think straight or focus at the fight because of all the voices then I know that in The Madness Part 2 & 3 Venom did the "impossible thing" which is Stopping Juggernaut and in the end Juggy ran like a little sissy when Beck stopped the fight. That's just the way I see it: Venom beats Juggernaut. I just find it hard to see Juggernaut totally beating Venom, that just doesn't make any sense for me, that means nothing can make me changing my mind about this. What you juggy fans think and what I think is 2 different things because we see things with another logic, thats the way it is
Tha C-Master
spiderman beat venom
K3VIL
Originally posted by Venom Dude No.1
It's true that in The Madness part 1 juggy trashed Venom pretty good but only because Venom couldn't think straight or focus at the fight because of all the voices then I know that in The Madness Part 2 & 3 Venom did the "impossible thing" which is Stopping Juggernaut and in the end Juggy ran like a little sissy when Beck stopped the fight. That's just the way I see it: Venom beats Juggernaut. I just find it hard to see Juggernaut totally beating Venom, that just doesn't make any sense for me, that means nothing can make me changing my mind about this. What you juggy fans think and what I think is 2 different things because we see things with another logic, thats the way it is
HEY YA!Here comes another Venomboy.
Why you didn't mention Venom smacking around Superman in the crossover?
Your comic knowledge is low my friend, cause on major occasions writers make crap stories.
Spider-Man beating Firelord.
Thing beating Champion.
Venom beating Juggernaut.
Venom smacking down Superman.
Batman HURTING Hulk.
Batman throwing in the snow Captain Marvel with his leg while Marvel's body was traveling at blinding speed.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by K3VIL
HEY YA!Here comes another Venomboy.
Why you didn't mention Venom smacking around Superman in the crossover?
Your comic knowledge is low my friend, cause on major occasions writers make crap stories.
Spider-Man beating Firelord.
Thing beating Champion.
Venom beating Juggernaut.
Venom smacking down Superman.
Batman HURTING Hulk.
Batman throwing in the snow Captain Marvel with his leg while Marvel's body was traveling at blinding speed. I love K3vil's post, he hates fanboys like I do...
Go read page 4.
Magic_attack
Originally posted by Venom Dude No.1
That's just the way I see it: Venom beats Juggernaut. I just find it hard to see Juggernaut totally beating Venom, that just doesn't make any sense for me, that means nothing can make me changing my mind about this. What you juggy fans think and what I think is 2 different things because we see things with another logic, thats the way it is
At least he is honest. He is using another logic.

KillAll
Originally posted by Venom Dude No.1
It's true that in The Madness part 1 juggy trashed Venom pretty good but only because Venom couldn't think straight or focus at the fight because of all the voices then I know that in The Madness Part 2 & 3 Venom did the "impossible thing" which is Stopping Juggernaut and in the end Juggy ran like a little sissy when Beck stopped the fight. That's just the way I see it: Venom beats Juggernaut. I just find it hard to see Juggernaut totally beating Venom, that just doesn't make any sense for me, that means nothing can make me changing my mind about this. What you juggy fans think and what I think is 2 different things because we see things with another logic, thats the way it is
the fight stopped because juggernaut chose it to. he developed feelings for the lady that he was paid to capture. when he said the money is not worth it, it was because she was screaming stop, not because the abuse was to much.
jinzin
Originally posted by Jvenom
C-master after reading this post you must be an idiot. I never said Venom was 40 class. I said the symbiote increases ones powers or strengths 40 times. This means with Brocks strenth he could lift about 20 to 25 tons. Do you not know what a ton is. Is mathematics that hard for you. Then I said if he gets an adrenalin boost making Brock's strength more in the way some people can lift a five ton rock off somebody in certain situtions he can become stronger for short periods of time. In some situtions people can gain amazing strength with an adrenalin rush. The costume can control this, there by increasing in strength. You shoud really read the post or at least try to understand it before speaking again. If Brock is able to increase his strength where he could lift four or five tons as a human which he could since people have done it with huge amounts of adrenalin he could match the likes of Juggernaut for a short time. Short time is the key words here because adrenlin in the body is short lived.
actually it should be noted that venom recently is somewhere in the 35 to 40 ton class... he's claimed to at his very least be twice as strong as the new enhanced spidey putting him in the low 30's but his feats would dictate a little more IMO...
(i believe the recent ugrade came when both venom symbiotes combined in the last issue of the venom ongoing title...)
jinzin
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't even mean this in a mean way, but what can Venom do once Jugg's helmet is off? Not that I believe Venom will ever get that close to Juggernaut without being ripped in half...but what could Venom do?
look back to my discussion with long pig I already covered this...
jinzin
Originally posted by newjak86
Here I hate to ruin the Venom Fanboys parade but in the second fight when Venom didn't have the Madness Virus and Juggs ran away. What did juugs say. The money isn't worth this. Venom used his speed and strength to gain a temporay adavantage against a Juggs that wasn't that serious. ZI hate to tell you this but when Juggs gets serious about beating on people he does it.
Thor one example he beat him with pleasure Hulk another. Heck Spiderman once he got serious about beating Spiderman he collapsed a whole roof on him.
Colossus is another Cain got mad and punched Colossus out in one POunch.
Thing in Three.

wasn't that serious? have you read the comic?
he was talking about how he was going to kill venom throughout the entire series.. including that last fight...
"I don't get paid enough to take this kinda abuse" in other words he was getting an asswhoopin... sorry man like I said I think venom's actual chances to get any sort of mental advantage like that again are very slim..but this stuff needs to be pointed out nonetheless.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
actually it should be noted that venom recently is somewhere in the 35 to 40 ton class... he's claimed to at his very least be twice as strong as the new enhanced spidey putting him in the low 30's but his feats would dictate a little more IMO...
(i believe the recent ugrade came when both venom symbiotes combined in the last issue of the venom ongoing title...) spiderman said he was 45x faster than a human...
Metalmanx
Ya know, what gets me is...I understand that Venom is no one's pushover. He's a great and powerful character. But what really throws me for a loop...is how anyone thinks he can perform any sort of butt-whupping on someone who's invulnerable?
That's what I just really don't understand. Someone please explain this to me. Juggs doesn't feel pain (unless psychically), takes no damage, doesn't budge if he doesn't want to.
Please explain to me how Venom could harm Juggy in the slightest.
jinzin
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Ya know, what gets me is...I understand that Venom is no one's pushover. He's a great and powerful character. But what really throws me for a loop...is how anyone thinks he can perform any sort of butt-whupping on someone who's invulnerable?
That's what I just really don't understand. Someone please explain this to me. Juggs doesn't feel pain (unless psychically), takes no damage, doesn't budge if he doesn't want to.
Please explain to me how Venom could harm Juggy in the slightest.
he wouldn't...the best he can hope for is either a win by ploat device or to take juggy's helmet off and instill his symbiotic nightmares to make juggy crazy....
leonidas
someone says venom wins this? as jinzin said, not without some lame plot device he doesn't . . .
long pig
Stupid.
Venom is allowed to boost his strength with adrenaline, but not Jug?
What if Jug got an adrenaline boost? He'd be in the near billion ton range.
He's already in the hundreds and thousands of tons range.
****ing stupid.
Jug wins 10/10
Venom is class 40 at most and can't possibly begin to harm Jug in the slightest. He can't win, nor could he ever win.
300 venoms vs Jug and still Jug wins 10/10
leonidas
<<Jug wins 10/10>>
amen.
Lord S
Anyone who thinks Venom has an ice cube's chance in hell against the Juggernaut is a rabid fanboy.suffering from severe delusions of grandeur, and should not be taken seriously whatsoever.
jinzin
so I am a diluted fanboy not to be taken seriously despite my previous statments?

long pig
No, no. No one is saying that, it's just, saying Jug loses to a streetleveler like Venom is a bit of a stretch, even under the concept of "suspension of disbelief.".
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
so I am a diluted fanboy not to be taken seriously despite my previous statments?

leonidas
<<so I am a diluted fanboy not to be taken seriously despite my previous statments?>>
yes?
boxing
King KAM
Originally posted by jinzin
so I am a diluted fanboy not to be taken seriously despite my previous statments?
he may be a little delusional in this fight but the kids with me!
*Kicks Leonidas in the shin and runs*
Jvenom
If Venom has beaten the Juggernaut twice already there is no reason to think he cannot do it again. It is logical to compare past fights with people to see who might win. In fact that is the only way. Why? Because for many Heros and Villians their strength increases and decreases depending on who they are fighting. Bios mean nothing. Spider-Man will have a tough time beating the Lizard then he will go fight Firelord. Batman will chase the Joker all around barley beating him then will go knock out the Hulk with a well placed kick. Venom will have Darkhark almost knock him out then will pound on Superman. It happens so much that if you say it is crap writing you a dismissing most comics. Comics are fiction, so anything can happen. Woliverine will lose to Spider-Man then beat the Hulk. It happens all the time. You cannot go on bios and powers alone, you also have to go on past fights. Juggernaut has beaten Venom and Venom has beaten Juggernaut. The next fight can go either way. Venom has fought four 100 class heros and villians fist to fist. He has beaten three and tied one. Somehow he is able to match their strength each time, showing anything can happen in comics.
Tha C-Master
No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.
No SvFL
Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.
For standard debates, feats considered to fall under the SvFL exemption are not valid. Likewise, examples of writing which go against firmly set canon are also ignored. For example, in Larry Hama's run of Batman and Grell's run of Iron Man, both characters were out of character and did things very much against established canon; therefore those runs are disregarded.
jinzin
Originally posted by leonidas
<<so I am a diluted fanboy not to be taken seriously despite my previous statments?>>
yes?
boxing
let's go....
Metalmanx
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.
No SvFL
Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.
For standard debates, feats considered to fall under the SvFL exemption are not valid. Likewise, examples of writing which go against firmly set canon are also ignored. For example, in Larry Hama's run of Batman and Grell's run of Iron Man, both characters were out of character and did things very much against established canon; therefore those runs are disregarded.
I don't think Batman sneaking up on Superman should be excluded from this. I know it's happened in the comics, but come on. Think about this. Superman can hear a flea sneeze from across the galaxy. I know that Batman is incredible, an amazing ninja and everything, who (as we all know) are experts in stealth and not making sounds. But there are some things that just make me want to bash my head in. Batman, no matter how good he is, will make noise when his feet touch this ground. He'll make noise when he breathes. He'll make noise when he bats his eyelashes. He'll make noise when his heart beats.
Now, unless Batman is now a heartless zombie who needs not breathe nor close his eyelids and levitates just over the ground...
...Then there is no way that Batman could ever sneek up on him. That is some crap.
jinzin
not only has batman done that but he saved superman from an invisable man who was doing the same...
Max Spidey 24
Why are there, so many fanboys.
WHY
jinzin
Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
Why are there, so many fanboys.
WHY
the irony of that statement is hilarious...
Max Spidey 24
That is a nice sig, by the way.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
the irony of that statement is hilarious... double that, and nice pic
Max Spidey 24
The fanboys are every where!
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/125/SMBRKT002.jpg
Tha C-Master
Thats why you should stay on the other forum with us, no fanboys, and it got an upgrade.
Max Spidey 24
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Thats why you should stay on the other forum with us, no fanboys, and it got an upgrade.
I went to it again, and the link was dead, to the site. Send me it again, please.
jinzin
Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
That is a nice sig, by the way.
thanks man...
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
I went to it again, and the link was dead, to the site. Send me it again, please. Ok, pm land...
Max Spidey 24
Is that Shredder and Subzero, fused together, in the middle, to make ShredZero ?
jinzin
Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
Is that Shredder and Subzero, fused together, in the middle, to make ShredZero ?

it certainly looks like it doesn't it...
that's actually what sub zero's new armor looks like in mortal kombat deception... so many people thought that it looked like shredder that I thought I'd make this sig...cause he really does...
Max Spidey 24
Originally posted by jinzin

it certainly looks like it doesn't it...
that's actually what sub zero's new armor looks like in mortal kombat deception... so many people thought that it looked like shredder that I thought I'd make this sig...cause he really does...
Oh

Jvenom
C-master you said Batman sneaking up on Supermas does not count because he has done it so many times but the same could be said about Venom. He has repeatedly pounded on class 50 to 100 good guys and bad guys.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Jvenom
C-master you said Batman sneaking up on Supermas does not count because he has done it so many times but the same could be said about Venom. He has repeatedly pounded on class 50 to 100 good guys and bad guys.
I didn't say that, but batman is much less effective on a hypothetical debate.
He survived a punch for an angry superman, and he shouldn't.
Because something happened numerous times, doesn't make it realistic.
I didn't say venom couldn't beat on juggs, I said It wont hurt.
Jvenom
We are talking about comics C-Master. What is realistic. Law of the real world do not apply. That is why Batman can trash Superman and how Venom beat Juggernaut in two fights. It is a fake world made up. Venom has punched Juggy and it has hurt. Most comic writers (Most) make him alot stronger then he was created to be. That is seen in almost every Venom story. You cannot just toss out 90% of his comics.
jinzin
Originally posted by Jvenom
We are talking about comics C-Master. What is realistic. Law of the real world do not apply. That is why Batman can trash Superman and how Venom beat Juggernaut in two fights. It is a fake world made up. Venom has punched Juggy and it has hurt. Most comic writers (Most) make him alot stronger then he was created to be. That is seen in almost every Venom story. You cannot just toss out 90% of his comics.
actually that's exactly what he does... he doesn't read the books...so he doesn't use them for the debates... I still don't get how realizm apllies to comic book super heroes...
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
actually that's exactly what he does... he doesn't read the books...so he doesn't use them for the debates... I still don't get how realizm apllies to comic book super heroes...
Please you look like a fanboy here.
You take all pis/cis into your arguments, and dismiss all logic, look at your reputation.
You use no logic in arguments, and you think wolveirne beats guys like namor.
You can't be talking now.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Jvenom
We are talking about comics C-Master. What is realistic. Law of the real world do not apply. That is why Batman can trash Superman and how Venom beat Juggernaut in two fights. It is a fake world made up. Venom has punched Juggy and it has hurt. Most comic writers (Most) make him alot stronger then he was created to be. That is seen in almost every Venom story. You cannot just toss out 90% of his comics.
Noone is dismissing or saying anything about real world logic.
I didn't say ANYTHING about realism, what you rather not understand or accept is that there are logical parameters in debating.
If Hulk can't hurt juggernaut, why should venom?
It is illogical.
Batman can't logically trash superman, go take a look at the rules.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by jinzin
actually that's exactly what he does... he doesn't read the books...so he doesn't use them for the debates... I still don't get how realizm apllies to comic book super heroes...
Look stupid, noone is saying realism we are saying your arguments are very stupid, and are biased.
Juggernaut is INVURNERABLE, and you are saying venom should hurt him, because of events.
You don't even know what pis is, and you look like a fanboy.
TwisterGameX
Must there be insults in everything.
jinzin
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Must there be insults in everything.
is he insulting me for a change?

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by jinzin
is he insulting me for a change?
Tha C says
"Look stupid, noone is saying realism we are saying your arguments are very stupid, and are biased.
Juggernaut is INVURNERABLE, and you are saying venom should hurt him, because of events.
You don't even know what pis is, and you look like a fanboy."
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Must there be insults in everything. do you ever contribute to a debate, he is making cheap comments, and if you look 3 pages back, you'd see they started it.
Now shoo if you have nothing to say.

Jvenom
wow c-master you talk about knowing comics are not real then you talk about logic in them. you can not have a locial debate on them since writers change their strength levels all the time. you seem to contradict yourself alot and come off bad.
my logic to venom beating juggernaut is simple. he is strong enough to because the writers have made him that way many times in the past. that may not go along with the bio or make sense but it is a comic and that how so many have written him. Also he did beat juggy twice before. Last the costume can take control of him because both Thor and SS have been taken over in the past and they are far more powerful then Juggy. His shield means nothing because the costume is able to pass it by going to the molecule level like is has in the past. ]
Is that enough logic for you because if it is not then you don't know what logic means.
jinzin
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Tha C says
"Look stupid, noone is saying realism we are saying your arguments are very stupid, and are biased.
Juggernaut is INVURNERABLE, and you are saying venom should hurt him, because of events.
You don't even know what pis is, and you look like a fanboy."
I don't think I ever said that....I'd like him to quote me on that one... juggy's invulnerable to everything but mental attacks and majic... venom has one of those at his disposal...I said he has a small chance to win because of that, I also said it's unlikely and that he would most likely lose the fight... how the co....i mean...the "C" masta got "venom wins...I'm a fanboy" from that I have no idea....

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
do you ever contribute to a debate, he is making cheap comments, and if you look 3 pages back, you'd see they started it.
Now shoo if you have nothing to say.
Like the time a random guy came in and call the thread stupid, and you were defending him in the game forum, just because ?
TwisterGameX
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't think I ever said that....I'd like him to quote me on that one... juggy's invulnerable to everything but mental attacks and majic... venom has one of those at his disposal...I said he has a small chance to win because of that, I also said it's unlikely and that he would most likely lose the fight... how the co....i mean...the "C" masta got "venom wins...I'm a fanboy" from that I have no idea....
Simple,you disagreed, on what he believes, so you know the rest.
jinzin
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Simple,you disagreed, on what he believes, so you know the rest.
well if that wasn't the truth....

jinzin
actually lokking back I'm not even entirely sure I disagreed with him... I just pointed out that he doesn't read that many comics (if any at all) and that realizm has little to do with a comic book hero debate..then he went into defense mode.....pffffft........
IMO it seems kinda childish to call me stupid for that...
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Like the time a random guy came in and call the thread stupid, and you were defending him in the game forum, just because ? no stupid, he wasn't he said the topic was pointless because of the subject matter.
Why am I arguing with you, you haven't contributied anything compared to what I have here, you don't make any good points, and you've only persisted in annoying people here who have put their time in this forum.
You try to interfere with things that have nothing to do with you, and now are swinging off jinzin's nuts.
You are useless as usual.
The debate I was in before you arrived, thats what you seem to forget, you are a newb and a fanboy.
You don't know what ive done or where I've been.
Lets keep it that way.
Tha C-Master
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Simple,you disagreed, on what he believes, so you know the rest. you are just bitter because i handed you your ass the other day, and your threads got moved, and are dying.
HA!!!
Jvenom
c-master you make yourself look bad
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