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Apocalypse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_%28comics%29#Powers_and_abilities

Super Skrull http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-Skrull#Powers_and_abilities

Not teleportation, telepathy, prep time, or jobbing allowed *glares at Apocalypse*. Both are bloodlusted, who wins?

Super Skrull.

He can ether make 'the mutant saviours' head explode through the usage of a force bubble or he can go Nova and fry the jobbing , blue lipped bastard...

The recent Super-Skrull mini has him kicking ass. Previews:
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=63596

Just shows how lethal FF's powers are in right hands.

Apocalypse

Originally posted by Xplosive
Apocalypse

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Fanboy

Originally posted by grey fox
^

Fanboy

Sucker!

Originally posted by Xplosive
Sucker!

Waste of space , why dont you go back to making apocalypse versus god threads.

Super Skull has no advantage over Apocalypse

Originally posted by golem370
Super Skull has no advantage over Apocalypse

He does. Many.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Apocalypse Your mother should have aborted you

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He does. Many.

What are they?
Apocalypse is stronger smarter more Durable Stamina and he has more tech.Also Apocalypse has more experience in fighting. He also has telepathic power Shape Shifting powers. He is simply to powerful.

Originally posted by golem370
What are they?
Apocalypse is stronger smarter more Durable Stamina and he has more tech.Also Apocalypse has more experience in fighting. He also has telepathic power Shape Shifting powers. He is simply to powerful. ........your joking right?

No I am not joking

Super Skrull has entire powers of Fantastic Four. Except that he doesn't have any moral inhibitions, he can use them lethally.

He could slice Apocalypse to pieces with the forcefields, cook them inside the forcefields with Human Torch's power, then send the pieces to space.

Apocalypse has force fields and also has Demi-Godlike Regenertive Durability and Godlike Stamina Metahuman Agility and Superhuman Reflexes

Demi-Godlike Durability- Demi-godlike Regenerative: able to heal all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion

Godlike-Stamina- Godlike: able to sustain almost indefinitely

Agility- Metahuman- Metahuman: extraordinarily beyond the natural limits of the human body

Superhuman Reflexes- Superhuman: virtually instantaneous

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_%28comics%29 look under powers and abilities.

Originally posted by golem370
Apocalypse has force fields and also has Demi-Godlike Regenertive Durability and Godlike Stamina Metahuman Agility and Superhuman Reflexes

Demi-Godlike Durability- Demi-godlike Regenerative: able to heal all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion

Godlike-Stamina- Godlike: able to sustain almost indefinitely

Agility- Metahuman- Metahuman: extraordinarily beyond the natural limits of the human body

Superhuman Reflexes- Superhuman: virtually instantaneous

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_%28comics%29 look under powers and abilities. stop using those damn things to base what you think a persons worth is.

Then Apocalypse wins because I think he does.

Originally posted by golem370
Apocalypse has force fields and also has Demi-Godlike Regenertive Durability and Godlike Stamina Metahuman Agility and Superhuman Reflexes

Demi-Godlike Durability- Demi-godlike Regenerative: able to heal all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion

Godlike-Stamina- Godlike: able to sustain almost indefinitely

Agility- Metahuman- Metahuman: extraordinarily beyond the natural limits of the human body

Superhuman Reflexes- Superhuman: virtually instantaneous

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_%28comics%29 look under powers and abilities.

Those stats are straight from Marvel Classic Roleplay game, huh?

No! There from Marvel Universe Offical Handbook Files it's right in front of me right now.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6a/FFF003_550.jpg/220px-FFF003_550.jpg

Acop gets owned

Originally posted by golem370
No! There from Marvel Universe Offical Handbook Files it's right in front of me right now.

Well, he has never displayed half of those things in comics.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Well, he has never displayed half of those things in comics.

Please don't tell me your telling Darkcrawler that handbooks are correct. The guy who proved every single stat in the handbook (about namor) completely and utterly wrong......

Originally posted by grey fox
Please don't tell me your telling Darkcrawler that handbooks are correct. The guy who proved every single stat in the handbook (about namor) completely and utterly wrong......





( under my sig)

But Marvel is saying he has those powers and he has the ability to tap into a source where he can have virtually any Superhuman physical power he wants. It also says in Wikipedia that not only does Apocalypse have Celestial Tech but he has improved upon it. He smarter then people give him credit for

Originally posted by golem370
But Marvel is saying he has those powers and he has the ability to tap into a source where he can have virtually any Superhuman physical power he wants. It also says in Wikipedia that not only does Apocalypse have Celestial Tech but he has improved upon it. He smarter then people give him credit for

Wikipedia is very inconsistent , simply because you can re-write it yourself. Hell i could re-write the Apocalypse article right now and say his powers are making toilet paper appear out of his mouth.

Originally posted by golem370
But Marvel is saying he has those powers and he has the ability to tap into a source where he can have virtually any Superhuman physical power he wants. It also says in Wikipedia that not only does Apocalypse have Celestial Tech but he has improved upon it. He smarter then people give him credit for

Marvel isn't saying anything. There isn't person like that. If Louise Simonson said that Apocalypse could do it, or a comic book writer would write Apocalypse do it, then it would be valid on handbooks too. Handbooks about characters come ALWAYS after the character has appeared in comics. So where do the writers base the handbooks? They should base it on comics. But on many occasions, character's powerlevels are either underestimated or overestimated. I don't know where they get the information in these occasions, but it isn't comics. I'd say that on these occasions, they pull the facts from a hat.

Mostly, handbooks are good source of information, but on some cases, not.

These handbooks seem to work like marveldirectory or classicmarvel etc.: gaining information on the basic powerset of a character. Don't trust their evaluations on stats.

I think Apocalypse has a great shot here. He's probably around the same strength level as Super Skrull and his fighting is phenomenal (can anyone say several millenias of experience?). He can control the molecules of his body and hence regenerate from losing limbs, probably. Fire hardly scares him, the same goes for force fields. Could someone show a piece where Invisible Woman's forcefields can be used to cut off anything? Doubt you can. I'm thinking SS will win abouts 6/10, but if you let Apocalypse use his full capacity, only 3/10 goes to the skrull. If you include coolness factor, the skrull wins approximately -913. There are about four Marvel characters that are bigger losers.

Originally posted by Tulika
These handbooks seem to work like marveldirectory or classicmarvel etc.: gaining information on the basic powerset of a character. Don't trust their evaluations on stats.

I think Apocalypse has a great shot here. He's probably around the same strength level as Super Skrull and his fighting is phenomenal (can anyone say several millenias of experience?). He can control the molecules of his body and hence regenerate from losing limbs, probably. Fire hardly scares him, the same goes for force fields. Could someone show a piece where Invisible Woman's forcefields can be used to cut off anything? Doubt you can. I'm thinking SS will win abouts 6/10, but if you let Apocalypse use his full capacity, only 3/10 goes to the skrull. If you include coolness factor, the skrull wins approximately -913. There are about four Marvel characters that are bigger losers.

He doesn't need to cut anything off with the forcefield when he can simply place one within apocalypses head and expand it.

SPLAT

I'd like to see him try to re-grow that.

Originally posted by Tulika
Fire hardly scares him, the same goes for force fields. Could someone show a piece where Invisible Woman's forcefields can be used to cut off anything? Doubt you can.

Here:

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
The recent Super-Skrull mini has him kicking ass. Previews:
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=63596

Just shows how lethal FF's powers are in right hands.

There are other pictures, (For example, Dr.Doom threatens her children, she makes some spikes to cut him really bad). Might take a while to get them, but I can if you want 'em.

And Fire probably doesn't scare him. Being near to something that is basically a miniature sun probably would. Not to mention that Super-Skrull's powers actually exceed FF's, for example he was able to do similar nova to Human Torch, only difference was that he wasn't exhausted after that, but continued like normal. I can get images of that too.

some more info

He had the power to make Hulk, War Hulk

Originally posted by golem370
He had the power to make Hulk, War Hulk




And how exactly does that help him in a fight?

DC, well grounded. I'll say the ass-clown takes it 7/10.

His advanced tech and power he would beat Super Skrull

Originally posted by golem370
His advanced tech and power he would beat Super Skrull
How?

Give use a reason how he could beat him?

The same argument could be used for Batman.

Well what about turning his mind to mush by using Telepathy. Beating him to a pulp because he is stronger Teleporting him some where like the sun or he could just grow in size and crush him under his boot.

Originally posted by golem370
Well what about turning his mind to mush by using Telepathy. Beating him to a pulp because he is stronger Teleporting him some where like the sun or he could just grow in size and crush him under his boot.

Read the stipulations for the fight. Regardless I don't know how effective physical assaults would be on Super Skrull. Not only does he have the Thing's durability and Sue's force fields but he also has Mr. Fantastic's molecular control of his body.

Read the original post, golem.

Apocalypse beats the hell out of him

Originally posted by golem370
some more info

Thats Age Of Apocalypse , Completely different time line with a more-powerful Apocalypse in charge

Originally posted by golem370
Well what about turning his mind to mush by using Telepathy.

His tp sucks and even if it wasn't crappy Super Skrull has Mister fantastics elasticity . His mind is much like his body and recovers very quickly .

Originally posted by golem370
Beating him to a pulp because he is stronger

Stronger my ass , Thing is class one hundred and he got that from over forty years of gradual exercise. Super Skrull is a weapon and fights daily , therefore he's stronger then Apocalypse ever could be.

Originally posted by golem370
Teleporting him some where like the sun

I have yet to see Apocalypse teleport someone under his own power

Originally posted by golem370
or he could just grow in size and crush him under his boot.


Growing wouldn't help ether , because his body can easily be knocked off balance .

Easily my A$$

Uhh yeah easily. Look at ultimate giant-man , he got his ass kicked by cap when he could have just stamped on him like some sort of damn cockroach.

Originally posted by King KAM
Your mother should have aborted you

thats uncalled for

Apocalypse,
The Xmen fought him, he is milleniums of years old and has wisdom and is very strong and powerful

Superskrull,
The Fantastic FOUR, FOUR, fought him, yes they are a powerful team but the Xmen would wipe them across the concrete because there are FOUR of them and many many xmen.

This goes to Apocalypse

A question for those more knowledgeable than I, has Super-Skrull ever gone supernova like Johnny? Not does he have the potential, but has he actually done it.

Originally posted by Wally West
A question for those more knowledgeable than I, has Super-Skrull ever gone supernova like Johnny? Not does he have the potential, but has he actually done it.

on page two from Darkcrawler:

"And Fire probably doesn't scare him. Being near to something that is basically a miniature sun probably would. Not to mention that Super-Skrull's powers actually exceed FF's, for example he was able to do similar nova to Human Torch, only difference was that he wasn't exhausted after that, but continued like normal. I can get images of that too."

Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
Apocalypse,
The Xmen fought him, he is milleniums of years old and has wisdom and is very strong and powerful

Superskrull,
The Fantastic FOUR, FOUR, fought him, yes they are a powerful team but the Xmen would wipe them across the concrete because there are FOUR of them and many many xmen.

This goes to Apocalypse

You obviously know little about comics if you think that the x-men could easily beat the Fantastic Four

Originally posted by grey fox
You obviously know little about comics if you think that the x-men could easily beat the Fantastic Four


What could i possibly be missing, lets see,

wolverine could take the thing easily

cyclops would beat mr fantastic,

jean would stop the invisible woman and Torch by messing with their minds

wait we have like 10 xmen left relaxing?

let me think who wins well whats super skrull gonna do when he cant get through apocs armor or when he grows to the size of a building and steps on him

Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
What could i possibly be missing, lets see,

wolverine could take the thing easily

cyclops would beat mr fantastic,

jean would stop the invisible woman and Torch by messing with their minds

wait we have like 10 xmen left relaxing?

You must be stupid

Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
What could i possibly be missing, lets see,

wolverine could take the thing easily

cyclops would beat mr fantastic,

jean would stop the invisible woman and Torch by messing with their minds

wait we have like 10 xmen left relaxing?

Things knocked out Wolverine in a single punch before.

Mr fantastic takes the hit, gets back up again and then strangles cyclops with his fingers and arms.

Jean's head explodes thanks to the Invisible women .



Forcefield inside of apocalypses head and i've already proven how bigger isn't better.

why didnt he already do that to the FF then?

Originally posted by Mider
why didnt he already do that to the FF then?

Because he jobs to everyone , much like gladiator he's used to make everyone look better. Also , it's a known fact that the bad-guys can use major lethal force as the main characters need to live.

yeah well so does Apocalypse so that excuse isnt very good if these were none jobber fights Apocalypse would win since he was beating or stalemateing Loki and even the prime eternal the one who he fights in the inhuman apocalypse crossover

Originally posted by Mider
yeah well so does Apocalypse so that excuse isnt very good if these were none jobber fights Apocalypse would win since he was beating or stalemateing Loki and even the prime eternal the one who he fights in the inhuman apocalypse crossover

BULL and SHIT my friend Apocalypse was in his prime then and he STILL was getting his ass kicked . Super skrull makes the guy's head explode.

Magneto in AOA ripped Apoc in two. I can't really see him beating Super Skrull.

when you say "no telepathy" does that mean "no hypnosis" as well? if not, and apocalypse's telepathic powers (offensive and defensive) were disabled... it'd be fun to see what kl'rt made him do.

Originally posted by Disappear
when you say "no telepathy" does that mean "no hypnosis" as well? if not, and apocalypse's telepathic powers (offensive and defensive) were disabled... it'd be fun to see what kl'rt made him do.

SS :You are under my power .

A: I am under your power

SS : you will obey my every command

A: I will obey your every command

SS : Try not too suck

A : *Explodes*

Why is it bull cause you dont like it? He did take on a prime eternal and loki when loki was at his strongest thats a fact.

And did either of them ever try to explode him inside out? Slice him to pieces? Burn him to ashes? No. That's why saying that because A beats B, A automatically beats C isn't very good. Super-Skrull using his powers to his fullest could make Apocalypse useless with ease.

Anybody could kick anyone's ass with powerset like that.

Originally posted by Mider
Why is it bull cause you dont like it? He did take on a prime eternal and loki when loki was at his strongest thats a fact.

No it's bull because Apocalypse still got his ass kicked.

Originally posted by grey fox
No it's bull because Apocalypse still got his ass kicked.

It is sad when someone continues to lie to himself, like you.

Apoc has no chance because Marvel writes him jobbing EVERY time. No jobbing on either side, this goes 50/50.

No prep, with their most powerful membership, the X-men beat the FF 4/10. With prep FF could never lose to the X-men.

Originally posted by Crease
Apoc has no chance because Marvel writes him jobbing EVERY time. No jobbing on either side, this goes 50/50.

No prep, with their most powerful membership, the X-men beat the FF 4/10. With prep FF could never lose to the X-men.

Yeah they would, Wolverine pretty much took the FF all by himself in Enemy of the State. Then if u throw in Pheonix (who would take the whole FF by herself). Colossus (the x-mens Thing) and Storm that makes.

Wolverine>Thing

Storm>Reed Richards

Pheonix>Sue Storm

Colossus>Human Torch

X-men who normally have way more than 4 people would kill the fantastic four.

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Yeah they would, Wolverine pretty much took the FF all by himself in Enemy of the State. Then if u throw in Pheonix (who would take the whole FF by herself). Colossus (the x-mens Thing) and Storm that makes.

Wolverine>Thing

Storm>Reed Richards

Pheonix>Sue Storm

Colossus>Human Torch

X-men who normally have way more than 4 people would kill the fantastic four.

Enemy of the state was bullshit , and it was barely a fight anyway.....

still happened, and it was only one x-man

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Yeah they would, Wolverine pretty much took the FF all by himself in Enemy of the State. Then if u throw in Pheonix (who would take the whole FF by herself). Colossus (the x-mens Thing) and Storm that makes.

Wolverine>Thing

Storm>Reed Richards

Pheonix>Sue Storm

Colossus>Human Torch

X-men who normally have way more than 4 people would kill the fantastic four.

Enemy of the State was an example of very poor writing and only fanboys honestly think it wasn't PIS incarnate.

Pheonix is a cosmic being that beat just about anyone. Sue could kill most of the X-Men with little more than a thought, the Human Torch could melt Colossus in a second, and the only way Storm can beat Reed is if he keeps her distance (but then again she is one of the most powerful mutants on the entire planet).

Oh and the Thing easily handles Wolverine. You may not want to look at this...

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/796/thingvswolverine28ab5ic.th.jpg


Regardless, it isn't the Fantastic Four versus the X-Men but the Super Skrull vs Apocalypse. The Super Skrull has more control over his powers than does the FF and Apocalypse has a completly different power set than the X-Men.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Enemy of the State was an example of very poor writing and only fanboys honestly think it wasn't PIS incarnate.

Pheonix is a cosmic being that beat just about anyone. Sue could kill most of the X-Men with little more than a thought, the Human Torch could melt Colossus in a second, and the only way Storm can beat Reed is if he keeps her distance (but then again she is one of the most powerful mutants on the entire planet).

Oh and the Thing easily handles Wolverine. You may not want to look at this...

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/796/thingvswolverine28ab5ic.th.jpg


Regardless, it isn't the Fantastic Four versus the X-Men but the Super Skrull vs Apocalypse. The Super Skrull has more control over his powers than does the FF and Apocalypse has a completly different power set than the X-Men.

Oh I but I remember the 5th of November (the date I read Enemy of the State) Wolverine whooped his freaky looking A$$ when he was really trying to kill him.

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Oh I but I remember the 5th of November (the date I read Enemy of the State) Wolverine whooped his freaky looking A$$ when he was really trying to kill him.

And that really makes sense as Wolverine can't even hurt the Thing....Oh, wait it really doesn't....

What happened is what happened...Wolverine stabbed Thing, Thing dropped, fight was over. There is really no use argueing because it HAPPENED!!!!!

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
What happened is what happened...Wolverine stabbed Thing, Thing dropped, fight was over. There is really no use argueing because it HAPPENED!!!!!

If you will take the five seconds it would require to read the rules of this forum you will see that a fight just being published isn't enough for it to be considered valid. Spiderman beating Firelord "happened" but everyone with half a brain considers it PIS, just like Wolverine suddenly becoming able to stab the Thing when Wolverine, himself, has stated on panel before that he couldn't even pierce the Thing's skin.

But as you say Wolverine would win every fight he is put in on this forum, I doubt you are good friends with logic and deductive reasoning. Then again, few Wolverine fanboys are...

so what you let super skulls loses slide when he jobs but not apocalypse thats real fair dude.

Originally posted by Mider
so what you let super skulls loses slide when he jobs but not apocalypse thats real fair dude.

Neither is allowed to job in this fight.

It's just that Apocalypse doesn't have anything to hurt Super-Skrull. He is completely invunerable to physical damage. His shields take care of everything else.

Apocalypse is a high class Rhino. He just can't win.

I havent said Wolverine could win every fight hes been put in, just the ones that he would win.

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I havent said Wolverine could win every fight hes been put in, just the ones that he would win.

...and thing isn't one of them.

Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
thats uncalled for no whats uncalled for is him sharing the same species as anyone with intelligence

As I grew Up in New York, My family lived next to a comic book store. But when they closed, I got into the habit of just basing my opinions on what shows I saw. After watching the X-men Animated series, I loved the character of Apocalypse. Sure he was a trash talker but he could back it up. Then when I moved, I noticed we were near another comic book store. This is how I currently got back into reading but oh how disappointed I was when I read the Apocalypse comics. Sure,he had the same cocky persona, but he lost to basically weak underlings. I tend to separate the comic book version of Apocalypse from the show.
In the show
Apocalypse> >>Super Scrull
comics= well lets just say, he is gonna take another nap

Originally posted by Big Sexy
As I grew Up in New York, My family lived next to a comic book store. But when they closed, I got into the habit of just basing my opinions on what shows I saw. After watching the X-men Animated series, I loved the character of Apocalypse. Sure he was a trash talker but he could back it up. Then when I moved, I noticed we were near another comic book store. This is how I currently got back into reading but oh how disappointed I was when I read the Apocalypse comics. Sure,he had the same cocky persona, but he lost to basically weak underlings. I tend to separate the comic book version of Apocalypse from the show.
In the show
Apocalypse> >>Super Scrull
comics= well lets just say, he is gonna take another nap

Almost the sam story as with me. I grew up with cartoon, seing Apocalypse so vastly powerful, phisically shown to be completely indestrucible (we never saw him being stratch or even hurt one iota, no matter what attacked him, the ship which analized him, couldn't find one weakness in him, when Xavier tried to go in his mind, he almost died, and he actully destroyed X-Men extremely easily, like insects they were to him), in cartoon described as personfication of evil that can never be destroyed. He was showed as higher being than in comic.
I picked comic and seeing him, and I was dissapointed, because comic Apocalypse and cartoon Apocalypse are completely different in power level.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
As I grew Up in New York, My family lived next to a comic book store. But when they closed, I got into the habit of just basing my opinions on what shows I saw. After watching the X-men Animated series, I loved the character of Apocalypse. Sure he was a trash talker but he could back it up. Then when I moved, I noticed we were near another comic book store. This is how I currently got back into reading but oh how disappointed I was when I read the Apocalypse comics. Sure,he had the same cocky persona, but he lost to basically weak underlings. I tend to separate the comic book version of Apocalypse from the show.
In the show
Apocalypse> >>Super Scrull
comics= well lets just say, he is gonna take another nap

The shows are full of shit , they had super-skrull trapped under cooled magma , things strength should have allowed him to smash through it with ease.

Im sorry the X men would defeat the F4

Wolverine Either or Colossus> Thing- Wolverine is able to cut Thing like shown before, and Thing really doesn't hve that much durability. He was ko'd by Juggernaut in 3 attacks, Colossus survived a couple of rounds. Thing's strength is a low class lv 100 strength while Colossus is mid class being able to lift houndreds of tons not just 100.

Strom either or Iceman, Cyclops> Mr.Fantastic- Well Iceman could just freeze him, and Strom could just fry him. Cyclops blast him with one of his crator sized blast

Colossus either or Jean Grey> Human Torch- Human Torch cant melt Colossus because Colossus can take much higher heats than Ht can dish out. Jean Grey just mind fu<ks the fireball, and he's down.

Jean Grey, Iceman> Sue Storm- Jean Grey mind Fu<ks this one to, or Iceman puts her on Ice.

Super-Skrull has the Thing's strength, durability and endurance. He also has force-fields and stretchiness, which gives him some more durability. The fire and force-fields can be used as a ranged attack.

Apocalypse can shoot energy blasts, fly, he has force-fields, he is CLEARLY stronger, in fact can increase his strength and durability pretty much at will by deciding to get bigger and denser. He's vastly smarter, has been alive longer and has celestial technology.

I think Apocalypse's force-fields stop Super-Skrull's force fields, and reduce SS's fire blasts to a level that Apocalypse can endur. When SS decides he needs to close to HtH to finish it, Apocalypse's superior strength, durability and shapeshifting combined with tech and brains gets SS owned.

Originally posted by Autarch
Super-Skrull has the Thing's strength, durability and endurance. He also has force-fields and stretchiness, which gives him some more durability. The fire and force-fields can be used as a ranged attack.

Apocalypse can shoot energy blasts, fly, he has force-fields, he is CLEARLY stronger, in fact can increase his strength and durability pretty much at will by deciding to get bigger and denser. He's vastly smarter, has been alive longer and has celestial technology.

I think Apocalypse's force-fields stop Super-Skrull's force fields, and reduce SS's fire blasts to a level that Apocalypse can endur. When SS decides he needs to close to HtH to finish it, Apocalypse's superior strength, durability and shapeshifting combined with tech and brains gets SS owned.

What durability , the man is afraid of getting hit by a fuggin table !!!

Also theirs a teeny-weeny difference in Superskrulls forcefields and apoc's .

Super-skrull can materialise his in your skull.

You see, it doesn't matter how many forcefields Apocalypse has on the outside when theirs one expanding his head on the inside

Originally posted by grey fox
What durability , the man is afraid of getting hit by a fuggin table !!!

Also theirs a teeny-weeny difference in Superskrulls forcefields and apoc's .

Super-skrull can materialise his in your skull.

You see, it doesn't matter how many forcefields Apocalypse has on the outside when theirs one expanding his head on the inside
Usually force-fields block the formation of other force fields, thus the TK fights. Super-Skrull might be better at this than Apocalypse, but Apocalypse has uber-strength and the 'make a random weapon from any body part' ability. Apocalypse, when not depowered, is not someone I have ever seen injured.

Originally posted by TheKahn
If you will take the five seconds it would require to read the rules of this forum you will see that a fight just being published isn't enough for it to be considered valid. Spiderman beating Firelord "happened" but everyone with half a brain considers it PIS, just like Wolverine suddenly becoming able to stab the Thing when Wolverine, himself, has stated on panel before that he couldn't even pierce the Thing's skin.

But as you say Wolverine would win every fight he is put in on this forum, I doubt you are good friends with logic and deductive reasoning. Then again, few Wolverine fanboys are...

notworthy

Quick question: I don't regularly read FF comics and was wondering are there many instances of Sue creating and expanding force fields in enemies?

Originally posted by meep-meep
Quick question: I don't regularly read FF comics and was wondering are there many instances of Sue creating and expanding force fields in enemies?

No, unless they are robots or something. But she never does that to living beings. Unless her children are in danger, then she lets loose.

Originally posted by soujaboy09


Colossus either or Jean Grey> Human Torch- Human Torch cant melt Colossus because Colossus can take much higher heats than Ht can dish out.

No, he can't...unless you are saying that he survives in Sun or something.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No, he can't...unless you are saying that he survives in Sun or something.

Actually he has survived thousands of Bolts of Storms lightning, and lightning is 5 times hotter than the surface of the sun. This implies that unless HT can get past supernova he gets a beat down by Colossus.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Actually he has survived thousands of Bolts of Storms lightning, and lightning is 5 times hotter than the surface of the sun. This implies that unless HT can get past supernova he gets a beat down by Colossus.
There are humans that have survived being struck by lightning. If Colossus is grounded (which he usually is, since he can fly) it wouldn't be surprising that he can do so.

Humans have survived "bolts" of lightning, but could they survive an endless barrage without effect? I think not.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Colossus%20Feats/colossusandstorm.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Colossus%20Feats/Colossuslightingrod.jpg

No man could survive those blast

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Humans have survived "bolts" of lightning, but could they survive an endless barrage without effect? I think not.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Colossus%20Feats/colossusandstorm.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Colossus%20Feats/Colossuslightingrod.jpg

No man could survive those blast

In those pictures, Colossus acts like conductor. You know those metallic things in top of buildings which direct the power of lightning to ground? Would they survive if they were thrown to sun? No.

Hell, even Namor can direct lightning in his body. Does that mean that he is immune to heats? Nope.

Heat from lightning is very different then direct heat.

Oh, and by the way, Human Torch's supernova is actually million degrees fahrenheit. That's twenty times more then heat of lightning.

So how is Ht a mini sun? If he was a mini sun than he wouldn't be able to get to 1 million degrees F.

Im also sure that you know that with enough lightning metals can be melted. In the scan Colossus had no problem with that seeing as the platform they were on was melting.

Btw can I get a scan of Ht reaching one million degrees?

Lightning is not as hot as the surface of the sun itself, it's that when it travels through air, since air is an insulator, it raises the temperature. Metal is a conductor, so therefore it does not get anywhere near as hot.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
So how is Ht a mini sun? If he was a mini sun than he wouldn't be able to get to 1 million degrees F.

Im also sure that you know that with enough lightning metals can be melted. In the scan Colossus had no problem with that seeing as the platform they were on was melting.

Btw can I get a scan of Ht reaching one million degrees?

So by your logic, Electro is immune to heat? Lightning doesn't do any damage at all to him. Blitzkrieg too. Basically all electric based characters. Heat from lightning isn't the same as direct heat from plasma.

And the core temperature of the Sun is twenty-seven million degrees. So Human Torch isn't actually as hot as Sun. But easily hot enough to melt Colossus. He wouldn't even probably have to use his full power.

i dont think there is anything super skrull could do to a none jobbing apocalypse

Blow his head up from the inside out with an invisible force field?
Melt him?
Suffocate him?

Those are three ways.

Apocalypse doesn't need to breathe...the other two would work though.

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Originally posted by King KAM
Your mother should have aborted you

Comments like this have no place in a debate. Keep it down Kam, because while there's obviously disagreement in this thread, I haven't seen anyone attack you.