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Omega Red
Captain America


vs


Wolverine
Deadpool

i say the Supersoldiers, not by much though

I think it'd be Captain America vs. Wolverine and I think Wolverine would BARELY edge that battle out and while that's happening, Deadpool is giving a hard time to Omega Red until Wolverine comes to help Deadpool and they double team him to win.

team super soldier. omga red just to much for wolverine and deadpool

if only deadpool wasnt immortal

Originally posted by capt it up
team super soldier. omga red just to much for wolverine and deadpool

Am i reading right? I do agree with you, capt.

People have to realize Red is badass and in most cases, youd have to be high street level or above to beat him.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Am i reading right? I do agree with you, capt.

People have to realize Red is badass and in most cases, youd have to be high street level or above to beat him.
ud have to be higher that that. both wolverine and spidemrna are high street levels and they would lose.
to beat omga red u need to first to disable death factor and then u need to be purely better then him which would be amazingly hard.

Carnage could take him

Indeed.

As much credit as i would like to give Red, he just doenst get much respect in the comic world. Im surprised the writers dont use him more. And when they do, they dont use him how he should be used. Such a waste of a great character.

I could name a sh*t load of guys that could take Omega Red down.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Indeed.

As much credit as i would like to give Red, he just doenst get much respect in the comic world. Im surprised the writers dont use him more. And when they do, they dont use him how he should be used. Such a waste of a great character.


i know right, hes my fave villain, out of all comics, hes just awesome. i remember me watching this little clip trailer thing on this disk about all the X-Men which had little trailers about each one, like for wolverine it showed him in the tank getting the adamantium bonded to his skeleton, cyclops' childhood ect. and i rememeber watching the clip for Omega Red and omg, even though i was only like 7 years old, he scared the $hit! out of me, and i remember him to this day, so i think hes just badass

Originally posted by batdude123
I could name a sh*t load of guys that could take Omega Red down.

all powerhouses.

Originally posted by braz
Carnage could take him

Stalemate.

Originally posted by braz
all powerhouses.

Not all.

pretty much, whos one street leveler that would give Omega Red a run for his money? besides carnage, or toxin

Originally posted by braz
pretty much, whos one street leveler that would give Omega Red a run for his money? besides carnage, or toxin

You tell me.

Originally posted by braz
pretty much, whos one street leveler that would give Omega Red a run for his money? besides carnage, or toxin

I don't really consider Toxin or Carnage to be street-level.

with out omnga red using death factor wolverine the only one of the few people who can actaully fight him, but with death factor he pritty much impossable to beat.

i think cable could take him

doesnt wolverine's healing factor negate the death factor so he cant actually fight him rather than just collapse..and i dont really respect Omega red that much, i remember that story..i forget the name where sabertooth depowers wolverine and sends omega red and deathstrike to kill him but they didnt do very well..he gave them a run for their money. i think Weapon X would win, deadpool on captain america and Wolverine on Omega red until deadpool takes cap or wolverine takes omega and then they team up on the survivor

Originally posted by braz
i think cable could take him

Of course Cable could take him. And I could name about one hundred more characters that could take him down as well.

Originally posted by batdude123
Of course Cable could take him. And I could name about one hundred more characters that could take him down as well.

go on then

Originally posted by braz
i think cable could take him

Although Cable is much higher than street level.....

http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/6243/cable009b8dr.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
go on then

Please don't make me do it.

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
doesnt wolverine's healing factor negate the death factor so he cant actually fight him rather than just collapse..and i dont really respect Omega red that much, i remember that story..i forget the name where sabertooth depowers wolverine and sends omega red and deathstrike to kill him but they didnt do very well..he gave them a run for their money. i think Weapon X would win, deadpool on captain america and Wolverine on Omega red until deadpool takes cap or wolverine takes omega and then they team up on the survivor

Yea, Wolvies healing factor makes him immune to the phermones, but hes still able to hea lfrom the other attacks besides Red's death factor. Yes Wolverine was depowered, however he still had the use of his claws as well as a suit from Guardian. You say they didnt do very well? They almost killed Wolvie, but that wasnt their job. They were suppose to only capture him. Wolvie gave then a run for their money cause that exactly what he was doing. Running. Wolvie isnt taking Red out plain and simple. Red can use the death factor and take Wolvie out in seconds. Deadpool aint beating Cap and Red.

not the puppy-dog eyes!!!!!! aahh i could never stay mad at you

Originally posted by batdude123
Of course Cable could take him. And I could name about one hundred more characters that could take him down as well.

100 street level characters? Good luck.

Originally posted by jrodslam
100 street level characters? Good luck.

I never said 100 STREET-level characters.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yea, Wolvies healing factor makes him immune to the phermones, but hes still able to hea lfrom the other attacks besides Red's death factor. Yes Wolverine was depowered, however he still had the use of his claws as well as a suit from Guardian. You say they didnt do very well? They almost killed Wolvie, but that wasnt their job. They were suppose to only capture him. Wolvie gave then a run for their money cause that exactly what he was doing. Running. Wolvie isnt taking Red out plain and simple. Red can use the death factor and take Wolvie out in seconds. Deadpool aint beating Cap and Red.

no he cant you just said he was immune to it, so that wont work then will it and yeah i know i have that issue. it hurt for him to pop his claws because his hand was bleeding and the only reason he was running was because:
1. he didnt have his powers, if he had them he would of stood his ground ahellavalot more,
2.amikos life was in danger so he was running around the bellagio looking for her and sabertooth.
and the suit from guardian isnt much replacement for a healing factor, is it.

oh and btw how did you think that whole story-ish arch thing was? (From like Mr X. to the story just mentioned) i quite enjoyed it

Originally posted by batdude123
I never said 100 STREET-level characters.

And a few posts back i mentioned that only high street level and higher characters can beat Red. Theres no need to go on and say how many people you can name that an beat Red. Noone is saying Red is almighty. Stick to the topic and stop trying to bash the character.

Originally posted by jrodslam
And a few posts back i mentioned that only high street level and higher characters can beat Red. Theres no need to go on and say how many people you can name that an beat Red. Noone is saying Red is almighty. Stick to the topic and stop trying to bash the character.

I'm not trying to bash Omega Red at all. I happen to like Omega Red. I was just simply replying to the post braz made about Cable being able to beat Omega Red.

Omega is cool, whats he up to recently? i think he'd make a wonderful mob boss that would be quite fun to see him fighting against hammerhead and silvermane and shit lyk that

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
no he cant you just said he was immune to it, so that wont work then will it and yeah i know i have that issue. it hurt for him to pop his claws because his hand was bleeding and the only reason he was running was because:
1. he didnt have his powers, if he had them he would of stood his ground ahellavalot more,
2.amikos life was in danger so he was running around the bellagio looking for her and sabertooth.
and the suit from guardian isnt much replacement for a healing factor, is it.

oh and btw how did you think that whole story-ish arch thing was? (From like Mr X. to the story just mentioned) i quite enjoyed it

When Wolverine fights Omega Red, he IS immune to the phermones. The in Logan Files, Woolvie was powerless so there he wasnt immune to them. On a normal encounter, Wolvie would be immune to the phermones but would still be able to heal from all other attacks besides the death factor.
1. I already mentioned he was running. If he had his powers, red would have just used the death factor.
2. Wolvie started looking for Sabes AFTER fighting Red and Lady D.
3. I know the suit isnt much replaement for the healing factor, but you stated that Wolvie gave them a run for their money. The suit was the reason he lasted that long. He didnt give them a run for their money. They were just playing with him a bit before capturing him.

I liked the Logan Files, but i didnt read the arc with Mr.X. I plan to though.

wolverine was wearing deathstrikes gas mask, so she was inactive for a tad while and he could survive
and i thought they just had to bring him to the office (unconsious or something), the way wolverine took down sabertooth was smart though (the death thing was a lil wierd but good, 'cept that colossus bit..cz it shudnt of been there really..he wasnt dead)
and yeah the arc is pretty impressive for a wolverine title.

Team Weapon X wins.

Deadpool beat a brain washed Cap already and it was Cap fighting at full power and not fighting against it. Plus this was when DP's healing factor wasn't as good as now. Now it rivals with the Hulks.

And Omega Red Death thing won't do anything to Wolverine or Deadpool.

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
Omega is cool, whats he up to recently? i think he'd make a wonderful mob boss that would be quite fun to see him fighting against hammerhead and silvermane and shit lyk that

Hes the leader of the Russian Mafia in New York.

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6836/untitled16lo.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
wolverine was wearing deathstrikes gas mask, so she was inactive for a tad while and he could survive
and i thought they just had to bring him to the office (unconsious or something), the way wolverine took down sabertooth was smart though (the death thing was a lil wierd but good, 'cept that colossus bit..cz it shudnt of been there really..he wasnt dead)
and yeah the arc is pretty impressive for a wolverine title.

Yea, but Wolvie didnt grab the gas mask till later on in the fight. Yea, Wolvie did take Sabes down with some brains. Too bad he was toom essed up to finish him off. Sabes was a cocky s.o.b.

Originally posted by Murda Mase
And Omega Red Death thing won't do anything to Wolverine or Deadpool.

You couldnt be more wrong.

nah jrods i dont think he could take both of them, thats pushing it a bit far really, and is it just me or do a hellavalot of russian mutants/villians have something to do with metal and tentacles?

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
nah jrods i dont think he could take both of them, thats pushing it a bit far really, and is it just me or do a hellavalot of russian mutants/villians have something to do with metal and tentacles?

Thats not pushing it at all. Its not like they are going to break out of the tentacles. Wolvie usually gets ko within a few seconds of the daeth factor. Same would happpen to Deadpool, except hed heal from it. How long would it take for him to heal from ashes? How many Russian mutants have some thing to do with metal or tentacles besides Colossus and Omega Red? I never really payed any attention.

ashes? how will he get turned into ashes?? and im pretty sure deadpool owns a gas mask in the equipment he carries, or gases would knock him out everytime he went to attack someone. the gas does nothing really want to know why? Powers and abilities

this is from wiki his powers
Omega Red is a mutant with superhuman strength and the ability to emit lethal pheromones from his body (death spores). These spores result in the weakness or death of humans in his near vicinity. The severity of the effect is based on the endurance, health, and relative proximity of the victims. Normal humans would be killed in a matter of seconds of exposure, while beings with heightened endurance can withstand it for minutes or hours.

it states that ppl of heightened underance can withstand it for minutes or hours, by minutes i presume they mean kwite a few minutes, but either way both Weapon X have healing factors so that should fight the gas for a good while

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
ashes? how will he get turned into ashes?? and im pretty sure deadpool owns a gas mask in the equipment he carries, or gases would knock him out everytime he went to attack someone. the gas does nothing really want to know why? Powers and abilities

this is from wiki his powers
Omega Red is a mutant with superhuman strength and the ability to emit lethal pheromones from his body (death spores). These spores result in the weakness or death of humans in his near vicinity. The severity of the effect is based on the endurance, health, and relative proximity of the victims. Normal humans would be killed in a matter of seconds of exposure, while beings with heightened endurance can withstand it for minutes or hours.

it states that ppl of heightened underance can withstand it for minutes or hours, by minutes i presume they mean kwite a few minutes, but either way both Weapon X have healing factors so that should fight the gas for a good while

When Omega Red drains life via death factor, he actually drains everything. Even down to the bone. Even beyond that. Ashes. A gas mask would prevent the death factor. The gas mask shouldnt have worked with a powerless Wolvie because in Reds first appearance, the doctors who were observing Red still died via phermones.

Like i said, due to Wolvies and Deadpools healing factors, they would be immune to the phermones. NOT the death factor. 2 different attacks.

but to do so he needs to drain them with his tentacles and i dont think hes as fast or agile as deadpool or wolverine

This is what happenes when death factor is given.

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/8337/reddeathfactorwolviexmen41lw.th.jpg


This is what should have happened to a powerless Wolvie

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/7522/omegaredisfree3fg.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
but to do so he needs to drain them with his tentacles and i dont think hes as fast or agile as deadpool or wolverine

Hes as fast and and slightly less agile that both. Nothing to make much of a difference.

well they seemed to have changed that now then, or the write just messed it up.. either way recently a gas mark stops it. the death factor seemed to come into effect after he was holding wolverine for a good while really, so anyone who could move fast enough and manage not to get grabbed (just get slashed or poked) would be able to stop that. couldnt deadpool just teleport omega away somewhere? or if deadpool gets mashed up body slide with cable (kind of like a cool tag in) lol has deadpool ever thought Omega? and really, this is more or less omega vs wolvie and deadpool because cap would die from omegas spores and he wouldnt fight with him anyway

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
well they seemed to have changed that now then, or the write just messed it up.. either way recently a gas mark stops it. the death factor seemed to come into effect after he was holding wolverine for a good while really, so anyone who could move fast enough and manage not to get grabbed (just get slashed or poked) would be able to stop that. couldnt deadpool just teleport omega away somewhere? or if deadpool gets mashed up body slide with cable (kind of like a cool tag in) lol has deadpool ever thought Omega? and really, this is more or less omega vs wolvie and deadpool because cap would die from omegas spores and he wouldnt fight with him anyway

Youre right. Red would probably be fighting all three lol. I dont think they changed the phermones properties, i think the writer just forgot about it or didnt have enough knowledge about it to begin with. Red can control how much life force he takes with the death factor. When he grabgbed Wolvie, he didnt immediately drain him to where he was knocked out instantly. Hes seen talking trash to Wolvie like he normally does. Wolvie and Deadpool arent going to be moving to where Red cant grab them. How does Deadpools tp thingy work? He just points it and bye bye? Either way, battle removal would be his ony chance for victory. I dont think Deadpool has ever fough Red. He has fought Cable though. And even thoughCable wasnt 100%, he got his ass handed to him too.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Youre right. Red would probably be fighting all three lol. I dont think they changed the phermones properties, i think the writer just forgot about it or didnt have enough knowledge about it to begin with. Red can control how much life force he takes with the death factor. When he grabgbed Wolvie, he didnt immediately drain him to where he was knocked out instantly. Hes seen talking trash to Wolvie like he normally does. Wolvie and Deadpool arent going to be moving to where Red cant grab them. How does Deadpools tp thingy work? He just points it and bye bye? Either way, battle removal would be his ony chance for victory. I dont think Deadpool has ever fough Red. He has fought Cable though. And even thoughCable wasnt 100%, he got his ass handed to him too.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe that Deadpool has liquid nitrogen canisters that he could throw at Omega Red.

which would work just fine that should freeze him, or incapacitate him long enough to count as a victory,

Originally posted by batdude123
If I'm not mistaken, I believe that Deadpool has liquid nitrogen canisters that he could throw at Omega Red.

I dont know how true that is or if he carries them in his regular everyday arsenal, but i doubt if hed get that off before being grabbed or getting the woozy feeling from the phermones.

it takes ahellavalot less time to throw something at someone than it does to grab them, because he could dodge until he throws it. and the gasmask would stop him from feeling the woozyness, or even if he did i think his throwing arm would still come through

and im not too sure about how it works, other than it teleports him more or less wherever he wants by will...

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
and im not too sure about how it works, other than it teleports him more or less wherever he wants by will...

Here ya go:

He owns a personal teleportation device, usually located on his belt. This device, created by Weasel, is used to teleport him out of, and occasionally into, trouble and has been prone to numerous malfunctions over the years. He now shares Cable's bodyslide technology, with the limitation that both Cable and Deadpool teleport at the same time. Early in his original ongoing comic, he also possessed an image inducer built by Weasel, which allowed him to manifest holographic disguises in order to go undercover, conceal his bizarre appearance or just plain goof off. (On one notable occasion, while trapped several years in the past, he used the image inducer to masquerade as Spider-Man's alter-ego Peter Parker.)

Well granted DP doesnt usually carry liquid nitrogen granades, it may not be a likely attack. IF DP does have them and If Red is able to grab DP before becoming fully frozen, the liquid nitrogen may not have an effect on Red.

Do you know that Omega Red was preserved in a cryogenic frozen state for decades? Basically they froze him. Did you also know that Red was able to release his death factor and restore his body?

Originally posted by batdude123
Here ya go:

He owns a personal teleportation device, usually located on his belt. This device, created by Weasel, is used to teleport him out of, and occasionally into, trouble and has been prone to numerous malfunctions over the years. He now shares Cable's bodyslide technology, with the limitation that both Cable and Deadpool teleport at the same time. Early in his original ongoing comic, he also possessed an image inducer built by Weasel, which allowed him to manifest holographic disguises in order to go undercover, conceal his bizarre appearance or just plain goof off. (On one notable occasion, while trapped several years in the past, he used the image inducer to masquerade as Spider-Man's alter-ego Peter Parker.)

Doees it say anything about him teleporting other people places?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Doees it say anything about him teleporting other people places?

Let me check really quick...

Originally posted by jrodslam
Doees it say anything about him teleporting other people places?

I can't find anything on it.

he teleports weasal with him, so i dont see why he couldnt take omega red

Originally posted by jrodslam
Same would happpen to Deadpool, except hed heal from it. How long would it take for him to heal from ashes?

In the last or second to last page of the DP respect thread I show DP healing from being a puddle in just a few panels.

Theres also alot more healing factor feats on that page that I put in too.

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
he teleports weasal with him, so i dont see why he couldnt take omega red

If he takes Red with him, the fight just continues wherever they go.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Doees it say anything about him teleporting other people places?


Yeah he can teleport other people too, but in that situation he'd just teleport his ass out if anything.

he could just teleport red to say the other side of the planet, and then teleport back.. quite simple, but not much of a fight really

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
he could just teleport red to say the other side of the planet, and then teleport back.. quite simple, but not much of a fight really
yes but that would not count as a win

yes it would.. it doesnt say anywhere that its to the death

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
yes it would.. it doesnt say anywhere that its to the death
ya but u can't win unless u kill the person or ko themwhich teleporting them away is neither

Originally posted by Murda Mase
In the last or second to last page of the DP respect thread I show DP healing from being a puddle in just a few panels.

Theres also alot more healing factor feats on that page that I put in too.

How did he get turned into a puddle of goo?

Im sure DP has bones. Red's death factor sucks life energy down to the bone and then some.

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/8982/redsressurection6yp.th.jpg

no, that counts as a ring-out (i think) and anyway he could just drop him off in the artic, and then come back, he would get alot more frozen...anyway he could just canister him anyways

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
no, that counts as a ring-out (i think) and anyway he could just drop him off in the artic, and then come back, he would get alot more frozen...anyway he could just canister him anyways
omga red live in the mountains of russia snow is nuthing to him.
also read the forum rules there are no ring outs if there were night crawler would beat pritty muych every one

Leaving the field

Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.

yes there is actually, look he could tp him to the other side of the world and leave him there...so omega loses via ring out

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
Leaving the field

Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.

yes there is actually, look he could tp him to the other side of the world and leave him there...so omega loses via ring out
again under there on ability. omga red can take aplaneback again if this was true ngith crawler would be unbeatable

he doesnt have plane power....it isnt under his ability, and by that time they would of left. i think they mean if they can fly or teleport back which he can do neither. it would take to long for him to reach back so he would automatically lose. no-one stands in the same spot for about 22 hours. they would of left, he would of lost face it

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
he doesnt have plane power....it isnt under his ability, and by that time they would of left. i think they mean if they can fly or teleport back which he can do neither. it would take to long for him to reach back so he would automatically lose. no-one stands in the same spot for about 22 hours. they would of left, he would of lost face it
first dude if that was the ace night crawler would beta any one the rules are supose to be worked around.
also ur just thinking they mean fly back, but that mroie then likly not the case andomga red could walk and swim back based on his powers and abilites he could do it and since u arnt allowed to sleep or that a KO then deadpool and wolverine would have to A find him or B sitt there and wait for him to show up.

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
yes there is actually, look he could tp him to the other side of the world and leave him there...so omega loses via ring out

You havent revealed the properties of DP's teleporter yet. How is it that he can tp someone somewhere without tp'ing himself? If he does, whats to stop the person from coming back with him? Whats Deadpools range on his tp? You talk about tp'ing to the other side of the world. How do you know he can go that far?

ok one at a time, no wolverine8888 you dont have to stay, its the other person who has to reach before you leave (which would be alot more logical than the victor waiting for the other person to show up again) and stop talking about nightcrawler thats irrellevant, Jrods properties?? i didnt say he couldnt tp himself, he teleports himself and omega somewhere then he teleports back, the way you stop the other person coming back is just by not letting them touch you. i cant really prove it because i havent got a scanner and either way, he could grab omega body slide with cable (So cable wud b with wolvie wer they wer fighting, and deadpool and omega wherever cable was) and then dp could bodyslide back with cable so cable is stuck with omega.

You say DP has to grab Red to tp him, but Red would grab DP much much easier than DP would grab him to tp. PLUS if DP gabs Red, he risks getting his life force drained. Will he risk it? Remember, Wolvie was out within seconds.

yes, he would remember, hours sometimes it takes and im pretty sure deadpool has got the balls to do something like that no matter what the risk. and shear disorentation would make omega let go. and see dp throws canisters at him then plops him onto the other side of the world. or if deadpool is gonna get the coupe de grace from omega and is getting lifted he can just tele him to someplace away (vague i know) so the survivng wolverine wins it for them

What takes hours? DP cant risk touching Red or let Red touch him. Deadpool may have balls, but hes not a stupid fighter.

no, it said on wikipeda the article i copied and pasted here sometimes it takes minutes to hours to administer the death factor, and can only render some unconsious, so he could risk that, because it cant kill him and if he gets knocked out wolvie could hold him until he wakes up (healing factor should speed up wakage)
anyways the canisters, teleporting and bodysliding should be enough to secure this win

Can someone show me a pic Deadpool telporting?

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
no, it said on wikipeda the article i copied and pasted here sometimes it takes minutes to hours to administer the death factor, and can only render some unconsious, so he could risk that, because it cant kill him and if he gets knocked out wolvie could hold him until he wakes up (healing factor should speed up wakage)
anyways the canisters, teleporting and bodysliding should be enough to secure this win

wikipedia is inaccurate. Death factor takes seconds. Ive shown the pic already. Phermones may take minutes to become immune. Not the death factor. It doesnt render someone unconsious unless Red allows it. It CAN kill Wolvie. The phermones cant.

Okay omega would totaly go for wolverine cap would take down pool and go finish wolverine for the win (Captain would smoke either Wolvy or deadpool any way) da soldiers have got this

no it cant, the healing factor would stop it from killing him thats how they have been able to fight like that so many times, and no it isnt really because anyone can write it so it could of been written by anyone just as reliable as us, and because it has a certain effect on one person doesnt mean it will against everyone,

Hmmm. I'm leaning more toward team Weapon X, but not because of Wolverine. It's because of Deadpool.
1. He's immortal. He cannot die until Death and Thanos say he can.
2. He's a better fighter than Wolverine. It's been proven time and time again that Deadpool is definately in the Top 5 fighters in the MU.
3. He has a healing factor that may be better than Hulk's.
4. He's already beaten Captain America.

yep, and i think he has three big factors to take down omega red, the canisters (which should of ended this ages ago because its so simple!!) the teleporting which is an easy one and the wierd bodysliding one. the teleporting i have found by looking at with great powe comes great coincidence (deadpool story) that when they teleport they seperate (So they arent holding each other) thus he wouldnt get drained by death factor which wouldnt effect him too much, because of his extreme healing factor

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
no it cant, the healing factor would stop it from killing him thats how they have been able to fight like that so many times, and no it isnt really because anyone can write it so it could of been written by anyone just as reliable as us, and because it has a certain effect on one person doesnt mean it will against everyone,

Healing factor only stops the phermones. Death factor if applied long enough would kill Wolvie. Simple. Picture Rogue holding on to Wolverine for 5 minutes. Red would do it in 10 seconds.

Deadpool top 5 fighters in Marvel?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Can someone show me a pic Deadpool telporting?

Can someone show where he hits the tp button?

but he hasnt ever killed wolverine so im saying if he could do it he would of already but he cant, more knock them out or hospilatize them, and anyway im talking about deadpool its a different story because he cant die and heals alot faster than wolverine.

i think its a thing on his waist, i can look for it and tell you where it is but i dont have a scanner to show you so ull have to look for it on any of his pics (it should be there)

lol its the middle thing, where a buckle would be on any belt the little face thing he presses that to teleport

Originally posted by jrodslam
Deadpool top 5 fighters in Marvel?

Deadpool is an extraordinary hand to hand fighter one of the best in Marvel... he is just way to scatter brained. He isn't on the level of Cap and Wolverine, close though I'd say around Black Panther level.

yeah, hes not that good a fighter really, just a great killer because hes so erratic and good humoured lol.. he enjoys his job way to much

He's above Wolverine. Wolvie has never beaten him without Wade being distracted. DP's also beaten Taskmaster.

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
but he hasnt ever killed wolverine so im saying if he could do it he would of already but he cant, more knock them out or hospilatize them, and anyway im talking about deadpool its a different story because he cant die and heals alot faster than wolverine.

Thats a truly rediculous statement. "He hasnt killed Wolverine yet." First time he did the death factor, he wasnt supposed to kill Wolvie. Only capture him. It knocked him out in seconds. Second time Red did it, it wasnt to kill him but only to move on to bigger better things. Once again Wlvie was knocked out. If Red did it to kill Wolvie, Wolvie would be dead and Wolvie fans across the world would be writing Marvel to bring him back. And Deapool can die via decapitation.

by being erratic, lol i have that issue its kwite funny, his comics are always funny

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool is an extraordinary hand to hand fighter one of the best in Marvel... he is just way to scatter brained. He isn't on the level of Cap and Wolverine, close though I'd say around Black Panther level.

Im saying he isnt a good h2h combatant but hes not top 5.

jrods no, thats speculation really you cant really prove that he could kill him without him actually doing it.. thats the best bit of proof you can get and i dont think it will happen. And yes thats still yet to happen to deadpool and if he can supposedly heal from mush couldnt he heal from decapitation?

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
lol its the middle thing, where a buckle would be on any belt the little face thing he presses that to teleport

If thats his only means of teleporting, loks like that aint happening. Hed just be easy pickens for Red to drain freely.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7517/xmenliberators03p173gg.th.jpg

how does that prove anything? thats totally something different, i dont even know what that is...colossus..why does he matter? and i think he can push a button on his waist alot faster than omega can kill him

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
jrods no, thats speculation really you cant really prove that he could kill him without him actually doing it.. thats the best bit of proof you can get and i dont think it will happen. And yes thats still yet to happen to deadpool and if he can supposedly heal from mush couldnt he heal from decapitation?

Omega Red drains ones life force energy. Hes held on to Wolverine and applied the death factor for no longer than 8 seconds. That drained him to the point where he was knocked out for hours. If he were to apply it for 20 seconds and actually try to kill Wolvie hed be dead. Its that simple. Its not speculation at all. Its a fact. Are you saying that if Rogue holds Wolvie for 1 minute, she wont kill Wolveirne? If Deadpool is much hes still intact in a way. His healing factor is more psychological. If hishead is cut off, he doesnt have that psychic thought to heal.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
He's above Wolverine. Wolvie has never beaten him without Wade being distracted. DP's also beaten Taskmaster.

Deadpool beating Taskmaser was a perfect example of PIS. It's Taskmaster for gods sake he doesn't need to read your moves to remember he has copied Iron Fist and walk all over you.

Wolverine Annual 1999 Wolverine has the clear edge on Wadeuntil Wolverine spots the Werewolf sneaking up on him and trys to warn Deadpool.

The fight were Wolverines healing factor was gone? Wolverine hit Deadpool 3-4 times before Deadpool managed to get a kick in, his first attack even gutted him.

When did Deadpool win? When Logan had no healing factor and when he had prep time should up with a team and happened to have a tranq that could drop a T-Rex with a single drop... and even then what happened? Wolverine some how managed to wake up in that bar (which never made sense to me).

EDIT: Man... I barely understand what I wrote here. Thats what I get from posting only when on a long fight in WoW.

jrods it is speculation because we dont know do we?? ok, i could say that deadpool would be totally immune to the DEATH FACTOR because of his extraordinary healing factor, which is also specualtion, but it could be true as yours is and still you dont think about the bloody canisters, which would win the match so much faster but we procede along this long road. He could still just teleport him off to someplace and leave him there.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool beating Taskmaser was a perfect example of PIS. It's Taskmaster for gods sake he doesn't need to read your moves to remember he has copied Iron Fist and walk all over you.

Wolverine Annual 1999 Wolverine has the clear edge on Wadeuntil Wolverine spots the Werewolf sneaking up on him and trys to warn Deadpool.

The fight were Wolverines healing factor was gone? Wolverine hit Deadpool 3-4 times before Deadpool managed to get a kick in, his first attack even gutted him.

When did Deadpool win? When Logan had no healing factor and when he had prep time should up with a team and happened to have a tranq that could drop a T-Rex with a single drop... and even then what happened? Wolverine some how managed to wake up in that bar (which never made sense to me).

EDIT: Man... I barely understand what I wrote here. Thats what I get from posting only when on a long fight in WoW.

You can't read, can you?

1st fight with Wolverine: Wolverine gets ran through in the back. Out cold.

2nd fight with Wolverine: The men DP brought with him didn't fire a shot. Nice try.

3rd fight with Wolverine: Wade had the upper hand until they both had a problem they had to addresss.

4th Fight with Wolverine: Wade had him beat until he was distracted.

Now shaddap.

edit: It's also pure strategy when fighting something like Taskmaster to hit him with something unorthodox. It would throw him off somethign fierce. Pick up a damn comic and think for once.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Healing factor only stops the phermones. Death factor if applied long enough would kill Wolvie. Simple. Picture Rogue holding on to Wolverine for 5 minutes. Red would do it in 10 seconds.

How come in the Logan files, with his healing gone, logan managed to hold his own against Omega Red and lady D for a lot longer than ten seconds??

that was a good comic, good arc

Yep I enjoyed the Logan files. Especially the issue I mentioned was cool cos he fought in las Vegas which isn't really Logan's stomping grounds.

i like sean chen's artwork he portrays wolverine quite well

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
how does that prove anything? thats totally something different, i dont even know what that is...colossus..why does he matter? and i think he can push a button on his waist alot faster than omega can kill him

It proves plenty. Red was able to hold Colossus to where he couldnt move to brteak free. If Red were to put DP in that kind of hold(which he would) Deadpool isnt going to be able to hit a button to tp them out of there, let alone break free.

its a drawing that is still...you cant show if hes struggling or not in that one panel, and its not guranteed if he will hold him like that or if he can even keep up with him to do that

Originally posted by jrodslam
It proves plenty. Red was able to hold Colossus to where he couldnt move to brteak free. If Red were to put DP in that kind of hold(which he would) Deadpool isnt going to be able to hit a button to tp them out of there, let alone break free.

How would Colossus be struggling to get free when he is a class 100 and Omega Red's arms can only exert about 10 tons of pressure? Talk about PIS.

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
jrods it is speculation because we dont know do we?? ok, i could say that deadpool would be totally immune to the DEATH FACTOR because of his extraordinary healing factor, which is also specualtion, but it could be true as yours is and still you dont think about the bloody canisters, which would win the match so much faster but we procede along this long road. He could still just teleport him off to someplace and leave him there.

Its not speculation at all. Its a pure fact. If Rogue were to hold Wolvie fore 1 minute would Wolverine not die? Is that speculation too? No, its a fact. Same goes for Red. If you have a life force, you cant be immune to the death factor. The death factor would overload the healing factor. Its been shown numerous times against Wolverine. You have yet to show or prove Deadpool keeps liquid nitrogen as a normal part of his arsenal. And ive stated before IF it is, and Red grabs DP before the liq nitrogen can take effect, Red would still be able to drain all the life energy from DP sustaining his own. Red has grabbed Colossus to where he couldnt break free. Hes held Cable, Sabertooth, Chamber, Daredevil and Wolverine. If they cant break out, Deadpool definately aint breaking out NOR would he be able to hit any button. Healing factor or not, Red would drain his life force.

Originally posted by batdude123
How would Colossus be struggling to get free when he is a class 100 and Omega Red's arms can only exert about 10 tons of pressure? Talk about PIS.

Who says Reds tentacles can only exert 10 tons of pressure? He can lift 10 tons. If the coils are wrapped around an enemy, thats much more than 10 tons of pressure. Not PIS at all.

dont bring in chamber, chamber punked red so badly, and i wasnt the one who said he carried it but seeing as he is a mercenary and seems to prepare for a fight at anytime it isnt atall unstrange for him not to have it with him is it?? and liquid nitrogen works very fast i think it takes maybe less than 10 seconds...so the advanced healing factor would keep him awake longer than wolverine who was held for 10 and got unconsious, so he could throw it when/just before he got grabbed and before he dies or gets knocked out red would of frozen

Originally posted by willRules
How come in the Logan files, with his healing gone, logan managed to hold his own against Omega Red and lady D for a lot longer than ten seconds??


Was Wolvie held while the death factor was applied for 10 seconds? I didnt think so. Was Red and Lady D trying to kill Wolvie? I didnt think so. Whats your point? Logan didnt have his healing factor, but he still had his durability(due to adamantium) and Guardians suit. If they wanted him dead, he would have been so.

no, he was adamantium poisoned so he was in crappy state, he was bleeding, and the guardian's suit was already ****ed by that time. the adamantium makes it worse, so deadpool would last alot longer because he dont have those inhibitions does he..that would of given him time. and no they wanted him dead, they were just too much of sabertooth's beyotches and wanted the reward wich they got punked out of

It would suck if DP teleported though. If he did, then you've gotta deal with Cable too.

lol not really, they are kinda bumchums aint they so cable would be fighting omega aswell...that would be a good little tatic, like shadow in mortal kombat

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
dont bring in chamber, chamber punked red so badly, and i wasnt the one who said he carried it but seeing as he is a mercenary and seems to prepare for a fight at anytime it isnt atall unstrange for him not to have it with him is it?? and liquid nitrogen works very fast i think it takes maybe less than 10 seconds...so the advanced healing factor would keep him awake longer than wolverine who was held for 10 and got unconsious, so he could throw it when/just before he got grabbed and before he dies or gets knocked out red would of frozen

Punked Red badly? What comics were you reading. The fight was pretty even. Chamber hit Red with a despiration shot into the water. Punked my ass. Red punked the whole team. Deadpool carries certain weapons depending on the job he has to do. Certain things arent needed. You say Wolvie was held for 10 seconds and got unconsious, yet Red only talkined trash then applied it just to knock him out. It lasted about all of 10 seconds together. If Red tried to kill Wlvie, which he wasnt trying to do, Wolvie would have been dead. If DP were to throw the grenade, Red would just drain DP dry instead of trying to knock him out like he did with Wolvie. As long as DP is still in Reds grasp, the death fator would still be in affect.

Hmm...kind of hard to say who wins.

Omega Red is pretty formidable though.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool beating Taskmaser was a perfect example of PIS. It's Taskmaster for gods sake he doesn't need to read your moves to remember he has copied Iron Fist and walk all over you.


Yeah thats true the Taskmaster and Deadpool fight had alot of PIS and CIS in it.

Either that or Joe Kelly has that short term memory thing like the guy in momento.

Latter on in the series Deadpool and Taskmaster meet up again and Deadpool just says I'm not going to fight you so there for you can't beat me.

Like Taskmaster can't do anything if the person doesn't fight them.

Mad PIS and CIS

Here it is.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7426/deadpool39p201mc.jpg

nah, for a kid, which he still is i would call that punked, because someone of omega reds training and armour and skills and talents should be able to deal with chamber, yeah respect for what else he did bt still he shudda took chamber. and yes but then deadpool would be dead, omega frozen and wolverine alive so that would be a win for weapon x

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
no, he was adamantium poisoned so he was in crappy state, he was bleeding, and the guardian's suit was already ****ed by that time. the adamantium makes it worse, so deadpool would last alot longer because he dont have those inhibitions does he..that would of given him time. and no they wanted him dead, they were just too much of sabertooth's beyotches and wanted the reward wich they got punked out of

Wrong. Wolvie was fine. He wasnt feeling any effects of the adamantium at all. Nor was the Guardian suit damaged. Before encountering Red and Lady D, Wolvie was in fine condition. And once again, they didnt want Wolvie dead. They were just having fun with him and torturing the people close to him.

no by the time the battle had started it was, it got trashed fast, and the only reason he doesnt show effect of it is because hes highly trained. and its happened before when the high eveloutionary took all mutie powers away and no, that was sabertooths doing they were pawns doing the work. and werent very successful was they? yukio, nightcrawler and amiko wer the only ones who got hurt badly, the hudsons werent even hurt they got back fine and they werent playing they were trying to apprehend him. not playing about, if you wanted to catch someone so dangerous you wouldnt play about

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
no by the time the battle had started it was, it got trashed fast, and the only reason he doesnt show effect of it is because hes highly trained. and its happened before when the high eveloutionary took all mutie powers away and no, that was sabertooths doing they were pawns doing the work. and werent very successful was they? yukio, nightcrawler and amiko wer the only ones who got hurt badly, the hudsons werent even hurt they got back fine and they werent playing they were trying to apprehend him. not playing about, if you wanted to catch someone so dangerous you wouldnt play about

Not at all. The suit didnt get damaged till the end of the fight. Read the comics again. The reasont it didnt get damaged that quickly because its highly durable. Not because hes highly trained. Yes they were working for Sabes because he had something they wanted access to. They were very successful indeed in capturing Wolvie. I dont know what makes you think they werent lol.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9983/wolverine174215cs.th.jpg

Red and Lady D didnt hurt Amiko at all. Yukio was hurt badly and Nightcrawler was hurt that badly either. Red and Lady D didnt even attack the Hudsons directly. They destroyed part of the plane so that it would crash. But lukily Mac had the suit and escaped the crash with Heather.

REd and Lady D were trying to apprehend him, but once they found out he didnt have his powers, they started playing with him. Wolvie wasnt taht dangerous because he wasnt even at full potential. Thats not a threat at all to Lady D and Red who do have their healing factors that work. Read the comics again.

wait a second so does omega omit the spores at all time??

No.

It all depends. If his opponent has a healing factor, he doesnt. If not sometimes he does, sometimes he doesnt. He does it at will.

so he only does it when he wants to? or needs to right? thus far he jumps in grabbing and slashing away, deadpool lights a match and throws it at him, or a lighter..your choice really, and then while he runs around on fire throws a liquid nitrogen canister at him and freezes him

Red has used the daeath factor against Hand ninjas, Wolvie twice and a member of the Acolytes.

because the spores are flammable of course, and i dont think he can be on fire without getting damaged or distracted for a long time, thus giving them time to Nitrogen him

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
so he only does it when he wants to? or needs to right? thus far he jumps in grabbing and slashing away, deadpool lights a match and throws it at him, or a lighter..your choice really, and then while he runs around on fire throws a liquid nitrogen canister at him and freezes him

Doesnt matter. If DP is grabbed that aint happening. Sorry.

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
because the spores are flammable of course, and i dont think he can be on fire without getting damaged or distracted for a long time, thus giving them time to Nitrogen him

Because Wolvie and DP have healing factors, he wont be using the phermones.

thats not neccisarily true now is it, he could be using them we dont know, he could use them just for the sake of killing anyone watching or and stop acting like deadpool is gonna get grabbed yeah? coz he aint, and he could just throw a lighter and boomb, and anyway he was still using his spores after wolvie took the mask thats why wolvie set him on fire and legged it didnt he..

and hey????? jrods, this has been going for hours yea? and its not going to get any better so can we just call it a draw and proclaim our respect for our opponents debating skills ? ok? i know soon enough we'll both run out of ideas dont you think...
so...
call it a tie?

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
thats not neccisarily true now is it, he could be using them we dont know, he could use them just for the sake of killing anyone watching or and stop acting like deadpool is gonna get grabbed yeah? coz he aint, and he could just throw a lighter and boomb, and anyway he was still using his spores after wolvie took the mask thats why wolvie set him on fire and legged it didnt he..

Its very true. When Red fought Sabertooth, he didnt use it. How do we know? Cause ther was a priest there, within a few feet and he was fine. When he fought Cable he didnt do it. When he fought Chamber he didnt do it. When he fought DD he didnt do it, but he used the death factor.

In the Logan Files when they first approached Wolvie, hew didnt use them. As soon as he found out Wolvie didnt have his healing facotr, he started to use it.

It was nice debating with you. Ill be back in a couple of days.

Cool, i respect you alot more after this see you in a few days maybe me have round two then?? but on a different thread hopefully

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
You can't read, can you?

1st fight with Wolverine: Wolverine gets ran through in the back. Out cold.

2nd fight with Wolverine: The men DP brought with him didn't fire a shot. Nice try.

3rd fight with Wolverine: Wade had the upper hand until they both had a problem they had to addresss.

4th Fight with Wolverine: Wade had him beat until he was distracted.

Now shaddap.

edit: It's also pure strategy when fighting something like Taskmaster to hit him with something unorthodox. It would throw him off somethign fierce. Pick up a damn comic and think for once.

Wolverine 88: Wolverine has no healing factor but still had the upper hand before Deadpool runs him through with his katana

Deadpool 27: Despite hallucinating this is Deadpools best showing against Wolverine. Wolverine is acting like an animal, growling and mindlessly slashing while Deadpool dodges. Wolverine wins in the end but only because Wade was distracted.

Wolverine Annual 1999: Wolverine gets the drop on Wade and beats on him silly with a pipe. Deadpool tackles Wolverine and they both fall through a sun roof. Wolverine notices the Werewolf before DP which allows Wade to capitalize and get his hit in even though Wolverine has turned his attention to something else.

Wolverine 154: The fight as ready started off panel (hence the dead guy in front of Wolverine). Even so what happen? Wolverine dominates the fight bug time... and doesn't even use his claws except to intimidate after Wade is pinned! Wade downs Wovlerine with three tranq darts and the tranqs are said to be able to drop a T-Rex with on drop (not part of DP standard gear)

Wolverine 155: Not a fight. Wolverine slashes Wade. Wade dodges and kicks Wolverine in the face. DP trys to kick Wolverine again but Logan blocks with his forearm.

Not sure how you got DP dominating Wolverine from these issues... maybe you got the directers cut?

Also I have read every appearance of Taskmaster. He was one of my favourite "villians" even before his relaunch and that fight with Deadpool is crap. Fighting unorthodox doesn't some how negate all the other skills Tasky had ecluminated, they just need Wade to win and since it was a slap stick comic series they didn't care how it happened.