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Superman with no mother box vs Avengers with nomagic guys.


Iron Man
Hawk Eye
Quick silver
Giant man
Hercules
Wonderman
Captain America
US Agent
Wasp
Vision
Mrs. Marvel
She-hulk
War Machine
spider-woman
Black Panther

avengers get prep time of 1 hr with no knowledge of kriptonite.

Yes Hercules,Vision,Wonder Man & Giant Man wins

Superman speed blits them and kills them exept QS then he fights him but running more likely at the same time and then he kills him with heat vision.

Not likely

Black Panther,Iron Man,Giantman & Wasp are all very smart and have high technology

And you really think they can shove something up in an hour? Hell no.

Originally posted by Tshern
And you really think they can shove something up in an hour? Hell no.
he thinks that Ironman can beat Hal Jordan

Did I say Iron Man could beat Green Lantern?But I do believe Tony Stark is smarter then Hal Jordan

sorry you said that Tony Stark with aGl ring could Beat Hal Jordan (GL)
which is the same bullshit

Hell Yes.

Iron Man prep tools- Resources of Stark International corporation.
Supercomputer containing the female artificial intelligence Jocasta.

S.H.I.E.L.D. issue Plymouth Prowler with hover capabilities.

Variety of personal armors for general and specialized purposes (i.e. stealth, deep sea or space exploration).

Black Panther's prep tools- Equipment:

Kimoyo card: an extremely powerful and versatile PDA. It functions similarly to the Avengers' communicards, but with many more practical applications. In one instance , the Panther called up a schematic of a jumbo jet's cockpit controls and took command of the plane, landing the plane safely in a river. "Kimoyo" is Bantu for "of the spirit."
Energy-Dampening Boots: Energy regulators create varying fields from the Vibranium in the molded soles of the boots, enabling Panther to survive a fall of several stories and land like a cat. Given enough momentum, the Panther can also scale walls or skim across water. The field can be also used offensively to shatter or weaken objects.
Vibranium Microweave Mesh: in his Panther uniform. The microweave robs incoming objects of their momentum; bullets do not ricochet off but simply fall to the ground when they come in contact with the weave). Likewise, the Panther cannot be stabbed; however, the costume (and Panther) can be cut if the attacker slashes along the uniform's grain.
Mask Lenses: Lenses in the mask cut glare and enhance the Panther's natural night vision.
Cloaking Technology: The cloak can be elongated, shortened or eliminated with a thought, and the entire costume can be covered allowing it to pass as normal street clothes.
Various other devices
Transportation: No known transportation.

Weapons:

Energy Dagger: with an ornate hilt carved of ivory or some kind of stone, and an energy-generated blade that can be set to stun or kill. The energy blades can be handled like either a physical knife or fired like darts, and regenerated repeatedly
Anti-Metal Claws: Claws in the gloves are made of Antarctic Vibranium-based "Anti-Metal" that can break down most metals at the molecular level.
other weapons available, such as a large 'power glove.'



Giant Man prep tools- Mobile Laboratory: Miniaturized laboratory stored in utility harness.

Pym Particles: Subatomic mass discovered by Dr. Pym which enables the ability to grow or shrink in size.

Utility Harness: Instruments and equipment stored in harness are miniaturized until needed. Items vary from lab equipment to weapons and aircraft

With prep they can definitely win... BP and Reed already have systems in place to deal with much more powerful people than Superman

Originally posted by golem370
Hell Yes.

Iron Man prep tools- Resources of Stark International corporation.
Supercomputer containing the female artificial intelligence Jocasta.

S.H.I.E.L.D. issue Plymouth Prowler with hover capabilities.

Variety of personal armors for general and specialized purposes (i.e. stealth, deep sea or space exploration).

Black Panther's prep tools- Equipment:

Kimoyo card: an extremely powerful and versatile PDA. It functions similarly to the Avengers' communicards, but with many more practical applications. In one instance , the Panther called up a schematic of a jumbo jet's cockpit controls and took command of the plane, landing the plane safely in a river. "Kimoyo" is Bantu for "of the spirit."
Energy-Dampening Boots: Energy regulators create varying fields from the Vibranium in the molded soles of the boots, enabling Panther to survive a fall of several stories and land like a cat. Given enough momentum, the Panther can also scale walls or skim across water. The field can be also used offensively to shatter or weaken objects.
Vibranium Microweave Mesh: in his Panther uniform. The microweave robs incoming objects of their momentum; bullets do not ricochet off but simply fall to the ground when they come in contact with the weave). Likewise, the Panther cannot be stabbed; however, the costume (and Panther) can be cut if the attacker slashes along the uniform's grain.
Mask Lenses: Lenses in the mask cut glare and enhance the Panther's natural night vision.
Cloaking Technology: The cloak can be elongated, shortened or eliminated with a thought, and the entire costume can be covered allowing it to pass as normal street clothes.
Various other devices
Transportation: No known transportation.

Weapons:

Energy Dagger: with an ornate hilt carved of ivory or some kind of stone, and an energy-generated blade that can be set to stun or kill. The energy blades can be handled like either a physical knife or fired like darts, and regenerated repeatedly
Anti-Metal Claws: Claws in the gloves are made of Antarctic Vibranium-based "Anti-Metal" that can break down most metals at the molecular level.
other weapons available, such as a large 'power glove.'



Giant Man prep tools- Mobile Laboratory: Miniaturized laboratory stored in utility harness.

Pym Particles: Subatomic mass discovered by Dr. Pym which enables the ability to grow or shrink in size.

Utility Harness: Instruments and equipment stored in harness are miniaturized until needed. Items vary from lab equipment to weapons and aircraft
You are hopeless

Iron Man could use his Thorbuster suit and have Rhodes use the Hulkbuster suit

The Hulkbuster suit is way over rated... didn't Hulk wreck it fairly easily?

Yeah but it still makes Iron Man stronger then usasal

Hulkbuster suit- Hulkbuster Armor, Mk I
First Appearance: Iron Man #304

The Hulkbuster armor is heavy-duty exo-frame (an add-on to the Mk. XI Modular Armor) designed for maximum strength amplification at the cost of reduced versatility and mobility. As its name suggests, it was specifically designed for hand-to-hand combat with the rampaging Hulk. The armor was rated with a lift (press) capacity of 175 tons. During its maiden run, the armor enabled Stark to hold his own in sustained physical combat with the Hulk. In subsequent battles with the Hulk, however, Stark has declined to utilize this armor, so it is unclear whether it is indeed capable of defeating the Hulk.


He has a lot to pick from- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man%27s_armor#Hulkbuster_Armor.2C_Mk_I

THERE IS NO REED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by golem370
Yeah but it still makes Iron Man stronger then usasal

Stronger than usual for the armour he had at that time... his current armour would probably destroy the Hulkbuster armour in a fight

Who needs him? You have Hawk- i just owned a cosmical treath with a single tnt arrow-eye.

Supes is downnnn.

Originally posted by endrict
THERE IS NO REED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't matter.. they have Stark and T'challa.... they more than make up for Reed's absence

I would have to see it to believe it. Maybe all out but I don't think that armor is stronger then Hulkbusters Suit

Originally posted by Scoobless
Doesn't matter.. they have Stark and T'challa.... they more than make up for Reed's absence

Agreed.

And with the collective strength of Wonder Man, Hercules, and She Hulk and with Quicksilver's speed, the Avengers could conceivably take this.

Ya'll don't truly realize what Superman can do to them....


http://www.superdickery.com/images/dick/216_4_186.jpg

I still think sups have a good chance of winning.

he can speedblitz most of them and throw them into to the sun... there is only a few they can do something.

isn't sups still fasfter than QS?

But they would be ready for his speed with the prep time

I still think he has a good chance...but if this is one sided fight I am take out prep time for the Avengers


NO PREP.

WHO WINS?

I would like to see a fist fight between him and Hercules who has took Atlas's place holding the earth.

Wonder Man, Hercules, Iron Man, Mrs. Marvel, and Vision could do it.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Wonder Man, Hercules, Iron Man, Mrs. Marvel, and Vision could do it.

vision could cause a problem but the reset meh..

They keep him busy in a fist figth until Vision sneaks and pulls a " i just owned Juggernaut!"

can vision phasing in sups hurt him?

superman is getting underrated for once, he's win, too fast, stronger than anyone on there, oh wait and faster than anyone on there, he's very smart himself... superman ftw

Originally posted by MattDay
superman is getting underrated for once, he's win, too fast, stronger than anyone on there, oh wait and faster than anyone on there, he's very smart himself... superman ftw

I think you're underrating Stark and T'Challa.

Obviously, Supes isn't not smarter than Stark or T'challa, much less the two of them combined.

And with prep, that gives them the edge to overcome Supes' speed and brawn.

The team probably wins, having Wonder Man for example. Don't know how much the prep could help, though. I mean, after the hour has passed and Superman strikes them at super speed I don't see what could have they come up with to counter that? Nothing that could make them faster or Superman slower. He would still blitz most of them into oblivion at the very first seconds.

Originally posted by breeze85
Don't know how much the prep could help, though. I mean, after the hour has passed and Superman strikes them at super speed I don't see what could have they come up with to counter that? Nothing that could make them faster or Superman slower. He would still blitz most of them into oblivion at the very first seconds.

thats what I am thinking too.

I will debate Superman being stronger then anybody on the team. Moving a planet and holding one on your back is to different ways

What about using some sort of Red Sun energy? Or Iron Man could camo his team with Lead some how.

fine then lets say there is no heat vision.... sups can still speed blitz, Ice breath and super duper strength over anyone there.

Prep is too iffy in most situations.

Originally posted by golem370
What about using some sort of Red Sun energy? Or Iron Man could camo his team with Lead some how. Red Sun and Lead aren't common knowledge. Only handfuls of people know about that. Cross that idea out.

Plus I don't see what coating them in Lead will do anyways, besides maybe poison their own blood.

And Vision could wait for Superman and faze threw his head. and while in alot of pain Iron Man with Thorbuster Suit smacks him to the ground where Hercules,Wonder Man,Giant Man and the other do a

pile

But they should now a little about Superman since Vision use his powers to energize Superman in the crossover and for this reason to. http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/superman.html

Originally posted by golem370
But they should now a little about Superman since Vision use his powers to energize Superman in the crossover and for this reason to. http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/superman.html What?

vision and sups in crossover...what issue?

Justice League/Avengers

http://www.comicbookbin.com/avengers-jla01.html

these are the people that could still live or put up a fight against sups.
Iron Man: maybe
Hawk Eye:nope
Quick silver:maybe
Giant man:maybe
Hercules:yes
Wonderman:yes
Captain America:nope
US Agent:nope
Wasp:nope
Vision: yes
Mrs. Marvel:maybe
She-hulk:yes
War Machine:maybe
spider-woman:nope
Black Panther:nope

Err, I think you guys are forgeting one thing, Black Panther has a contigincey plan to take down Galactus. As well as every other known superhero or villian in marvel. I mean he already took down mephisto and tore his heart out with prep.

I think Supes would not be too much trouble given the alloted prep time.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Err, I think you guys are forgeting one thing, Black Panther has a contigincey plan to take down Galactus. As well as every other known superhero or villian in marvel. I mean he already took down mephisto and tore his heart out with prep.

I think Supes would not be too much trouble given the alloted prep time.

How would they use their prep to counter Superman's speed? If you find something useful I agree that they would take him down fairly easy.

Originally posted by golem370
But they would be ready for his speed with the prep time

Exactly, they would find a way to stop SM with prep. an hour of prep for the science guys is a lot of time considering their resources. Also, tactically Cap A can come up with a plan pretty quickly.

Originally posted by breeze85
How would they use their prep to counter Superman's speed? If you find something useful I agree that they would take him down fairly easy.

They can't slow him down nor stay outta his way..

Sun Soaked Superman vaporizes Earths Orbiting Sattellite infrastructure then knocks the Planet out of Orbit & excites Global faultlines. No more Earth no more Avengers.

They could make a Earth size Force Field. But Sundipped is not in this thread

he is now.

Threadstarter left this option open.
Sunsoaking doesn't take that long, flying through the Sun in 1.2 seconds should do it.

leaving 58 minutes for other affairs

I did leave it open but however leaving the fight does mean that person lost the fight.

Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Err, I think you guys are forgeting one thing, Black Panther has a contigincey plan to take down Galactus. As well as every other known superhero or villian in marvel. I mean he already took down mephisto and tore his heart out with prep.

I think Supes would not be too much trouble given the alloted prep time.

He doesn't have a plan to take down Galactus, he has a plan to get his people the f*ck off the planet if Galactus comes back. People often make that mistake.

I also doubt Superman is going to be intimidated by the Panther God like Mephisto was.

superman would win. grabs 2-3 of them at a time. fly's into the sun at almost light speed and does the same thing to the rest. as for quick silver, he can just push the whole planet into the sun

superman beat up a whole cities worth of super villains before they could blink... avengers get pooped on

Superman vs Avengers(1hr prep) with no magic guys.
superman would try to go easy on them, like he does with all people, trying to knock them out rather then kill them.

Iron Man-superman pulls off all the metal, fuses it into one useless ball, and kicks it at hercules
Hawk Eye-knockes him out with a finger flick, ala spiderman. :P
Quick silver- quicksilver can manipulate time, he isn't like flash, the picosencd quicksilver makes a reappearence in this time zone, superman finger flicks him.
Giant man- anyone ever watch ultimate avengers? remmeber what hulk did to giantmans knee? superman. finger flick.
Hercules-saves for later
Wonderman- save for later
Captain America-finger flick
US Agent-finger flick
Wasp-a cold breeze freezes up her wings... and he nudges her unconscious
Vision- saves for later
Mrs. Marvel-saves for later
She-hulk-saves for later
War Machine-does the same to warmachine he did to tony
spider-woman-2 finger flick
Black Panther-finger flick

so you're left with she hulk, ms. marvel, vision, hercules and wonderman.

he takes to the air, and only ms. marvel, wonderman and vision can follow... so he proceeds to beat the crap out of ms. marvel recognizing her for the fastest character there, then then to wonderman... the visions blasts only healing him. Then vision tries to solidify inside of superman but can't thanks to his biofield and extreme density. Superman doesn't even feel it. He dismantles vision.

Superman goes down and throws she hulk into hercules at ftl speeds. Superman wins.

Suddenly the true threat mongul appears... but thats for another day.

They keep him bsuy until vision goes thro him and shuts him down.

i say superman will win. he is just too fast. he can grab anyone of the avengers and take them to the sun in less than 1 sec like he did to darkseid.

he cant fly to the sun cause he cant leave the fight that breaks the forums rules...sup will loose if he leaves the fight.

how ever he can throw someone to the sun!

Yeah, Superman is fast and so forth, but i'd love to see him scoop up Hercules, Wonderman, or even She-Hulk and try to fly them to the sun. It would be a fantastic landing when he recieved a face full of fist from any one of them. Flying them to the sun just isnt going to happen.

Supermans speed is definately a problem, but i'm sure if this is to the death or with bloodlust, Quicksilver might sacrifice himself to trip up Supes or something (I realize Superman is faster, but in the heat of the battle,,,,) and also, i'm sure one of the heavy weights should be able to at least get a grasp on him while he's smacking somebody around. Cap's leadership skills and battle experience, BP's and Iron Mans techology, the muscle of Hercules, Wonderman, She-Hulk, Vision, etc,,.

Sorry, Superman loses,,,,,,rather badly in my opinion.

while the team keeps Sups busy Wasp can always fly in to his ear and know him out.

hehehe.

damn I mean knock not know

Superman would tune THIS team of avengers. The first speed blitz,boom, thats iron man, hawkeye,cap,black panther,quicksilver,war machine,giant man,us agent,spiderwoman---ruined. the video is friggin over. Visions intangability would save him, for a while,but eventually ,he'll buy the farm. Wasp could take out supes if she shrunk and flew in his ear and gave him a stroke or whatever( have you read superman/batman issues 20-25? do it.you'll understand)thats if she thinks of it.frosty breath would trim her sails mighty quick. She hulk is peaced. Wonderman would wake up a days later, wondering why he's 5 states away and his head is on backwards.This fight basically comes down to Hercules and Ms. Marvel. It is conceavable that ms.marvel and herc could just pound him into submission.But dont forget ,the heart of the sun is one heck of a trump card.

He can KO a good portion of the team just by breathing heavy.
There's some decent hitters in there to keep his a little busy though, but he's got good chances of winning.

Originally posted by Juntai
He can KO a good portion of the team just by breathing heavy.
There's some decent hitters in there to keep his a little busy though, but he's got good chances of winning.
Respect that. Frosty breath the light weight and start swinging.