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Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLjdjVhZPEk

What a bunch of tards

What an idiot.

Maybe Stan Lee was right about the Hulk versus Sueprman

They'll never learn . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN0o_7CqlwE&mode=related&search=

Nah , these guy's work on a comedy film/episode thing. They spout this bullshit to make people laugh...

was that saturn? and was that pre crisis superman?

Dam, those two are nerds.....

well back in the 70 hulk did fight supes to a standstill. people need to know hulk going all out and supes going all out would be a doomday type fight.

i think they do make good points

Originally posted by trademark
i think they do make good points

When basing Hulk and Superman on stength alone yes, they just forgot to mention Superman's other powers...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLjdjVhZPEk

Here are the pages that Hulk-geek is talking about:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4851/hulkvssupermanpage09jp7.th.jpg http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/5964/hulkvssupermanpage10mf5.th.jpg http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7072/hulkvssupermanpage11xb0.th.jpg

Now I don't actually think that anything in that "space scene" looks particularly like Saturn... but there do seem to be a shitload of things up there that were never mentioned to me at school

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
They'll never learn . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN0o_7CqlwE&mode=related&search=


Just for reference....

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2682/1oh7.th.jpg http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4986/2un1.th.jpg http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/6033/3lo0.th.jpg

whistling

the guy is very smart at comics. I agree with evry word he says, pretty much

Originally posted by hulkrulz
the guy is very smart at comics. I agree with evry word he says, pretty much

That's 'cause you're dumb.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Here are the pages that Hulk-geek is talking about:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4851/hulkvssupermanpage09jp7.th.jpg http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/5964/hulkvssupermanpage10mf5.th.jpg http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7072/hulkvssupermanpage11xb0.th.jpg

Now I don't actually think that anything in that "space scene" looks particularly like Saturn... but there do seem to be a shitload of things up there that were never mentioned to me at school



If that ring belongs to Saturn...then why is the Sun right next to it? That space scene is just so messed up...

Yep.

Originally posted by batdude123
That's 'cause you're dumb.
hater


ok aside from that if this guy has valid points it's aside from the point he obviously spends waaaaaaaay too much time on comics and i think we can all learn what NOT to end up like by watching this video

Lets just say that as physical non Cosmic beings there is no one on there level of strength when both are in Bloodlust

Originally posted by golem370
Lets just say that as physical non Cosmic beings there is no one on there level of strength when both are in Bloodlust

Mangog

Possibly Ok or Skyfather level characters

Originally posted by golem370
Lets just say that as physical non Cosmic beings there is no one on there level of strength when both are in Bloodlust very rational of you everybody wins

Notice they never once mention Superman's speed feats, where Hulk doesn't even come close in terms of showings.

Or the fact that he has ranged attacks, which could decimate the Hulk while Kal wouldn't be getting touched.

Partial information is a dangerous thing. ...and it's ony by ignoring the entirety of the evidence that anyone could make a legitimate argument for the Hulk.

...still, funny stuff. I can see that being half the fanboys on this forum in about 15 years.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Notice they never once mention Superman's speed feats, where Hulk doesn't even come close in terms of showings.

Or the fact that he has ranged attacks, which could decimate the Hulk while Kal wouldn't be getting touched.

Partial information is a dangerous thing. ...and it's ony by ignoring the entirety of the evidence that anyone could make a legitimate argument for the Hulk.

...still, funny stuff. I can see that being half the fanboys on this forum in about 15 years. that wasnt what they were getting at they were talking about streght only

Originally posted by lando005
that wasnt what they were getting at they were talking about streght only

I understand, but the way they were talking about it in both videos made it seem like the Hulk should win the entire fight. The strength question isn't really the debate.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I understand, but the way they were talking about it in both videos made it seem like the Hulk should win the entire fight. The strength question isn't really the debate. true sups owns hulk due to versitilty

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I understand, but the way they were talking about it in both videos made it seem like the Hulk should win the entire fight. The strength question isn't really the debate.

Superman did comment on Hulk's speed in one of those fights

Originally posted by Scoobless
Superman did comment on Hulk's speed in one of those fights

He also compliments half the heroes in DC, saying they're his equal....before saving the day with feats that surpass pretty much any of them. So that's not saying much.

Speedblitz to outerspace ftw.

Yeah...same way he's faced dozens of "Single toughest opponent I've ever faced" before. It doesn't really matter what he said though; fact of the matter is Hulk is a slug to Superman when it comes to speed.

ya know i would just like to inject this oppinion the hulk isnt slow with all that mucsle he can acctually move pretty quick it's his bulk that slows him down

hulk weighs about 1000lbs. he's high cl100. how much would his 'bulk' affect him?

hulk is fast relative to you and i. hulk is not even in motion compared to someone of superman's speed.

i can't believe this battle is still discussed and that doubt exists in anyone's mind.

pre-crisis superman's strength and powers has fluctuated greatly over the years (especially between golden age and silver age).
At times superman strength shown to be so great that one time (golden age) he was dragging about a dozen planets with a chain faster than light speed to another star system for relocation. Other writers had him much weaker (especially in silver age). Thus Pre-crisis isn't consistent. To say that such and such happened to pre-crisis superman is just a low showing. Remember on this forum it is known that low showings sometimes contradict with high ones. So that is why forum rules say to use the best of a character's ability. This avoids any contradiction.

Also Stan Lee himself in an interview said himself that he created Thor to be stronger than the Hulk since he was a god and hulk was not. He didn't like the fact that Hulk was shown to overpower Thor on occassions (such as in the new avengers movie).

With that said, one cannot go by low showings to prove something but by using the best of a character's abilities. Usually fights are a popularity contest. That means we would have a lot of jobbing.
If two very strong character's are to face head up then most likely the one who is more popular (the bigger cash cow) will win.

Everyone knows truly that gladiator would utterly destroy 616 colossus.
His strength, speed, durability, and different other powers are many times greater than colossus.
Yet colossus went toe to toe with him to the end. This was written out of popularity and is straight SmvFL.

what wrong with this ?

Everyone knows that The Hulk is stronger than Superman (even pre-crisis); all the hulk needs to do is getting angrier and stronger than his opponent.

BTW:He was the gravage hulk, and nothing can change the fact that he smashed and proved to be stronger than Pre Crisis Superman.

The hulk beat foes more powerful than the kryptonian as Onslaught(in the slugfest i mean), The Galaxy Master, Thor (most times), Gladiator...

at normal strenght hulk can be beaten but if really enraged no one can take him down

Peter David said the hulk can beat Mangog

i asked him on alvaro's comic book


"Sure. Why not."

PAD

http://www.comicboards.com/hulk/view.php?rpl=050629030316

Originally posted by h1a8
pre-crisis superman's strength and powers has fluctuated greatly over the years (especially between golden age and silver age).
At times superman strength shown to be so great that one time (golden age) he was dragging about a dozen planets with a chain faster than light speed to another star system for relocation. Other writers had him much weaker (especially in silver age). Thus Pre-crisis isn't consistent. To say that such and such happened to pre-crisis superman is just a low showing. Remember on this forum it is known that low showings sometimes contradict with high ones. So that is why forum rules say to use the best of a character's ability. This avoids any contradiction.

Also Stan Lee himself in an interview said himself that he created Thor to be stronger than the Hulk since he was a god and hulk was not. He didn't like the fact that Hulk was shown to overpower Thor on occassions (such as in the new avengers movie).

With that said, one cannot go by low showings to prove something but by using the best of a character's abilities. Usually fights are a popularity contest. That means we would have a lot of jobbing.
If two very strong character's are to face head up then most likely the one who is more popular (the bigger cash cow) will win.

Everyone knows truly that gladiator would utterly destroy 616 colossus.
His strength, speed, durability, and different other powers are many times greater than colossus.
Yet colossus went toe to toe with him to the end. This was written out of popularity and is straight SmvFL.

good post, but don't forget the hulk beat thor in annual 2001 (he beat him down with 3 only blows, and could have killed him if he only wanted); and he beat him again in Thor# 385 while Thor never beat the hulk

They weren't posing very strong arguements.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
what wrong with this ?

Everyone knows that The Hulk is stronger than Superman (even pre-crisis); all the hulk needs to do is getting angrier and stronger than his opponent.

BTW:He was the gravage hulk, and nothing can change the fact that he smashed and proved to be stronger than Pre Crisis Superman.

The hulk beat foes more powerful than the kryptonian as Onslaught(in the slugfest i mean), The Galaxy Master, Thor (most times), Gladiator...

at normal strenght hulk can be beaten but if really enraged no one can take him down

Peter David said the hulk can beat Mangog

i asked him on alvaro's comic book


"Sure. Why not."

PAD

http://www.comicboards.com/hulk/view.php?rpl=050629030316 HULK IZ THE GERATESTEST EVAR!!!

Originally posted by Juntai
HULK IZ THE GERATESTEST EVAR!!!

Aren't socks disallowed?

I mean, if a member gets banned, aren't they not allowed to return until that ban is up?

Why must we suffer through all of DevilHulk's utter BULLSHIT?

Ugh -_-.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
what wrong with this ?

Everyone knows that The Hulk is stronger than Superman (even pre-crisis); all the hulk needs to do is getting angrier and stronger than his opponent.

BTW:He was the gravage hulk, and nothing can change the fact that he smashed and proved to be stronger than Pre Crisis Superman.

The hulk beat foes more powerful than the kryptonian as Onslaught(in the slugfest i mean), The Galaxy Master, Thor (most times), Gladiator...

at normal strenght hulk can be beaten but if really enraged no one can take him down

Peter David said the hulk can beat Mangog

i asked him on alvaro's comic book


"Sure. Why not."

PAD

http://www.comicboards.com/hulk/view.php?rpl=050629030316

The fact of the matter is that is isn't proven that Hulk's strength can exceed pre-crisis superman. This is because it isn't proven that he can get angry enough.

Many think that Hulk's strength can grow to infinity. But he can't get infinity angry. As far as I know there is a limit to how angry he can get.
Thus how strong he can get. Thus the only way to judge his potential strength is by feats. And pre-crisis superman has him covered here.

And don't forget that superman vs. hulk stuff isn't cannon. There is a logical reason for this. Usually when famous character's of two dimensions of comics face off then it becomes a popularity contest. This is because each comic company don't what to lose face and money by showing that their character is inferior to the other unless it is blatantly obvious.

with hulk i dont think there is an upper limit to his rage his brain doesnt function the same way ours does

Originally posted by lando005
with hulk i dont think there is an upper limit to his rage his brain doesnt function the same way ours does

He is a finite being. There is always a limit

Otherwise proof would be required to show that his rage has no limit.

Whether Hulk truly has a limit or not is debatable. We've nver seen one, but it is widely believed he has one becase one can only get so angry. However, he can also continually get stronger as he fights someone, or just any thing that gets his adrenaline pumping.

Yes, it is possible for him to reach Pre-Crisis Supes's level of strength. If written in a comic similiar to that first crossover, their strength's would be written similiar to each other's in the first place (and no, I am not saying Hulk can beat Pre-Crisis Superman).

Originally posted by h1a8
He is a finite being. There is always a limit

Otherwise proof would be required to show that his rage has no limit. he's never topped out though he's been angry to the point of mindless rage and still showed that he could hold more hate it's debateable if he has a limit to his rage

Originally posted by Accel
Whether Hulk truly has a limit or not is debatable. We've nver seen one, but it is widely believed he has one becase one can only get so angry. However, he can also continually get stronger as he fights someone, or just any thing that gets his adrenaline pumping.

Yes, it is possible for him to reach Pre-Crisis Supes's level of strength. If written in a comic similiar to that first crossover, their strength's would be written similiar to each other's in the first place (and no, I am not saying Hulk can beat Pre-Crisis Superman). I really doubt that Hulk is getting up into that strength category. Superman did a lot of crazy shit, that Hulk shouldn't be mentioned to be able to do.


Also, wasn't that a non canon crossover anyway?

Originally posted by lando005
he's never topped out though he's been angry to the point of mindless rage and still showed that he could hold more hate it's debateable if he has a limit to his rage So, you think that he can be as strong as LT, or Eternity?

Originally posted by bigbran
I really doubt that Hulk is getting up into that strength category. Superman did a lot of crazy shit, that Hulk shouldn't be mentioned to be able to do.
Hulk did some crazy-ass stuff himself back in the day. That's the point I'm making here. Both were always written to be as strong as the story required.
Originally posted by bigbran
Also, wasn't that a non canon crossover anyway?
I wasn't using it to prove any thing, but even if they were both written by the same company, they would be portrayed beign around the same strength level.

Originally posted by bigbran
So, you think that he can be as strong as LT, or Eternity?
Having no limit doesn't mean one can become as strong as infinite beings. Hulk will never become as strong as beings such as those, but it doesn't mean he can't keep increasing his strength without stopping.

im tired of saying hulk will never be stronger, faster, smarter and a better hero than superman... there said it again.

ok ok really anyone can beat anyone in comics. we the fans sit on forums and hype are fav hero's but really darkseid is a jobber, thor will alway lose more times then not to the hulk, batman will always get the better of superman when they fight. so really what we say on these forums don't mean a rats ass it is what it is. its all up to the writers.