HawkMan/Aquaman vs. Wolverine/Namor

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nvrbeenwthagirl
This is Not magic hand Aquaman. It's cyber Hook one. All very mean tuff guys going for blood. WHo would win?

Harry Fingerman
Hawkman just got beat by BA, Wolverine wins...

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Hawkman just got beat by BA, Wolverine wins...

He put up an excellent fight and BA>>> everyone in this thread.

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He put up an excellent fight and BA>>> everyone in this thread. Not really...

Also, blasphemy!
He aint even equal teh clawz!

Gecko4lif
namor>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aquaaman
Hawk and wolvie are about equal but i give it to hulk man


namor's team wins thou

Harry Fingerman
Joking aside...

Hawkman's only equal to Wolverine?
Huh?

If Wolverine gets hit by a swing from that mace, he's gunna be fudged up.
Plus, he's got a great damage soak, so it's going to take more than one claw swipe to finish him (unlike most threads involving Wolves).

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
namor>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aquaaman
Hawk and wolvie are about equal but i give it to hulk man


namor's team wins thou This battle isn't so easy to call. Hawkman could give namor fits on his own. And Wolvie can give aquaman fits. If you switch the partners, Aquaman pwns namor with a telepathic assault, But Seeing as these guys are out for blood, the fliers would prolly go after each other leaving the guys on the ground. Too hard for me to call.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He put up an excellent fight and BA>>> everyone in this thread.

Black Adam trashed Hawkman almost effortlessly. He wasn't even trying to fight him... he practicle tried to run away before he crushed Carter's mace in one hand and then finished him with a few punches.

SnazzySmurph
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He wasn't even trying to fight him... he practicle tried to run away So, Hawkman > BA then, right?

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
So, Hawkman > BA then, right?

Nah. Black Adam was all "this is a waste of my time" and left... then Hawkman, in his infinite wisdom, flew after him and Black Adam pawned him.

Kurash
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Black Adam trashed Hawkman almost effortlessly. He wasn't even trying to fight him... he practicle tried to run away before he crushed Carter's mace in one hand and then finished him with a few punches.

do you realize how badass BA is? And also how poorly Hawkman is portrayed in some comics?

Hes a tough mofo

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by Kurash
do you realize how badass BA is? And also how poorly Hawkman is portrayed in some comics?

Hes a tough mofo Actually, Hawkman had a good show of durability in this comic...

But no matter how you write him, he's still going to get his ass kicked by BA.

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This battle isn't so easy to call. Hawkman could give namor fits on his own. And Wolvie can give aquaman fits. If you switch the partners, Aquaman pwns namor with a telepathic assault, But Seeing as these guys are out for blood, the fliers would prolly go after each other leaving the guys on the ground. Too hard for me to call.

which hawk man are we talking about?

Charley Parker?
Fel Andar?
Katar Hol?
or Carter Hall?

Kurash
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Actually, Hawkman had a good show of durability in this comic...

But no matter how you write him, he's still going to get his ass kicked by BA.

definately, but he seems to be written poorly at times imo

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
which hawk man are we talking about?

Charley Parker?
Fel Andar?
Katar Hol?
or Carter Hall?

Current.

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Current.

i havent been following hawkman so i dont know which one current is lol

I think parker is current (probably wrong thou)

Harry Fingerman
Carter.

SnazzySmurph
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nah. Black Adam was all "this is a waste of my time" and left... then Hawkman, in his infinite wisdom, flew after him and Black Adam pawned him. Right, because I purposely edited your quote, isolating the only part that could be misinterpreted, because I was serious. haermm

Validus
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Right, because I purposely edited your quote, isolating the only part that could be misinterpreted, because I was serious. haermm
http://i20.tinypic.com/27y0d44.jpg

King_Mungi
Current Hawman is Carter Hall and Kator Holl merged together as one being.

I havn't seen the recent Hawkman vs. Black Adam fight, but here is an old one/ For the hell of it here is a battle with Aquaman too


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Battles
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Hawkman #23 : Black Adam (Hall)
Hawkman uses a Green Lantern mace construct and starts bashing the weakened Black Adam

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p11.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p12.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p13.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p14.jpg
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Hawkman #15 : Aquaman (Hawkman: Holl)
Hawkman tracks down the avatar of the Baracuda, but must go through Aquaman who was friends with him until he found out he was a child molestor. Hawkman schools Aquaman

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-13.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-14.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-15.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-16.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-17.jpg
6. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-18.jpg
7. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-19.jpg

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Current Hawman is Carter Hall and Kator Holl merged together as one being.

I havn't seen the recent Hawkman vs. Black Adam fight, but here is an old one/ For the hell of it here is a battle with Aquaman too
Check the respect forums, if you want to see it.
It's posted in BA's thread.

King_Mungi
Just saw it..kinda dumb actually. Not Hawkman losing, but how he lost. ie. Removing his wing doesn't matter as he can still fly without them, and smashing nth metal? Errr?

Soljer
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Just saw it..kinda dumb actually. Not Hawkman losing, but how he lost. ie. Removing his wing doesn't matter as he can still fly without them, and smashing nth metal? Errr?

Black Adam's just that good.

stick out tongue.

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Just saw it..kinda dumb actually. Not Hawkman losing, but how he lost. ie. Removing his wing doesn't matter as he can still fly without them, and smashing nth metal? Errr?
Since I'm not even sure why I posted in that thread anyway with this...

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Ya but, it's hard to fly when you can barely walk...
Also, what are the wings for then?

Strength feat? stick out tongue

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Ya but, it's hard to fly when you can barely walk...
Also, what are the wings for then?

Strength feat?

Healing factor: http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-21-09.jpg

Mobility, helps him to be more agile in the air. Hawkgirl has shown to fly and move around in the air with a simple nth belt. Even know it's revealed overexposure to the nth metal they don't need it anymore to fly.

I can't recall anyone EVER doing that before.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Healing factor: http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-21-09.jpg

Mobility, helps him to be more agile in the air. Hawkgirl has shown to fly and move around in the air with a simple nth belt. Even know it's revealed overexposure to the nth metal they don't need it anymore to fly.

I can't recall anyone EVER doing that before.

Black adam is developing a superman jobber aura.

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Healing factor: http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-21-09.jpg

Mobility, helps him to be more agile in the air. Hawkgirl has shown to fly and move around in the air with a simple nth belt. Even know it's revealed overexposure to the nth metal they don't need it anymore to fly.

I can't recall anyone EVER doing that before. He didn't have time to heal though...
He was getting beat on.

Black Adam did... stick out tongue
Plus, who has tried, and is it supposedly indestructible?

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
He didn't have time to heal though...
He was getting beat on.

Black Adam did... stick out tongue
Plus, who has tried, and is it supposedly indestructible?

He has taken worse and kept on fighting, and even from the scan he literally healed instantly. Regardless, Hawkman has flew with a broken leg before in the past. Can BA beat Hawkman? Most definetly, but not in that manner.

Yeah it was said to be, as it controls the 4 fundmentals of the universe. That's why Synn with nth metal > Black Adam.

King_Mungi
Bah! for all we know his mace there was just a regular mace from his muesum, which he often borrows weapons from.

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by King_Mungi
He has taken worse and kept on fighting, and even from the scan he literally healed instantly. Regardless, Hawkman has flew with a broken leg before in the past. Can BA beat Hawkman? Most definetly, but not in that manner.

Yeah it was said to be, as it controls the 4 fundmentals of the universe. That's why Synn with nth metal > Black Adam. Maybe, but BA let his hands go in the last couple panels.

That scan still confuses me. Like, did his wings heal the damage?

A leg is not akin to getting your wing ripped off, and getting the hell beat out of yo face.

Didn't Synn have more though, than Hawkman?
Also, perhaps its invulnerability has been tested... shifty

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Maybe, but BA let his hands go in the last couple panels.

That scan still confuses me. Like, did his wings heal the damage?

A leg is not akin to getting your wing ripped off, and getting the hell beat out of yo face.

Didn't Synn have more though, than Hawkman?
Also, perhaps its invulnerability has been tested... shifty

*shrugs*

No just the nth metal in the wing brackets that hold the wings on Hawkman. He also wears a nth metal belt, and even the smallest peice of metal saved Hawkgirl from a point blank huge explosion that killed everyone BUT her.

.....your not familar with Hawkman are you? The guy soaks up a lot of punishment and I mean a LOT and doesn't even bat an eye.

Yes, but Hawkman has weapons which surpass Synn's quanitity.

My guess it's just a normal mace from his muesum, which makes complete sense.

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by King_Mungi
*shrugs*

No just the nth metal in the wing brackets that hold the wings on Hawkman. He also wears a nth metal belt, and even the smallest peice of metal saved Hawkgirl from a point blank huge explosion that killed everyone BUT her.

.....your not familar with Hawkman are you? The guy soaks up a lot of punishment and I mean a LOT and doesn't even bat an eye.

Yes, but Hawkman has weapons which surpass Synn's quanitity.

My guess it's just a normal mace from his muesum, which makes complete sense. So, the nth metal heals him, or am I still confused?

Not really, just know him from crossovers, when he appears in someone's book, or events, etc. Never really read anything focused on him.
Also, he takes beatings from Superman level beings like that?

But, we'z is talk about teh mace.

Imma going to say no, just because I want a ridonkules Adam feat.
Also, are his other maces just normal, because this one seemed to explode a little.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
So, the nth metal heals him, or am I still confused?

Not really, just know him from crossovers, when he appears in someone's book, or events, etc. Never really read anything focused on him.
Also, he takes beatings from Superman level beings like that?

But, we'z is talk about teh mace.

Imma going to say no, just because I want a ridonkules Adam feat.
Also, are his other maces just normal, because this one seemed to explode a little.

Nth metal does, but the wings arn't made out of it

Well then, here

Oddly yes, even going toe to toe with Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter and when Manhunter with Bloodwind

Which we don't even know if it was nth

He basically uses artificats from his muesum and which are all normal. Most of the weapons are from his past lives

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman_v4_16_013.jpg

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Nth metal does, but the wings arn't made out of it

Well then, here

Oddly yes, even going toe to toe with Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter and when Manhunter with Bloodwind

Which we don't even know if it was nth

He basically uses artificats from his muesum and which are all normal. Most of the weapons are from his past lives

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman_v4_16_013.jpg So, how would he heal himself in the middle of battle, like, as fast as BA was dishing out damage?

Ya, I know... I peaked through it now though.

When I looked through the thread, I saw the fight with WW, and WW only hit him once...
BA hit him like 4 or 5 times... at least.
Plus, BA recently basically two-shotted MM, so I'd hardly compare him to BA.

So, there are also maces that he uses?

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
So, how would he heal himself in the middle of battle, like, as fast as BA was dishing out damage?

Ya, I know... I peaked through it now though.

When I looked through the thread, I saw the fight with WW, and WW only hit him once...
BA hit him like 4 or 5 times... at least.
Plus, BA recently basically two-shotted MM, so I'd hardly compare him to BA.

So, there are also maces that he uses?

Varies

I actually havn't uploaded the WW fight yet, either the Martian Manhunter/BloodWind. I stopped half way as I got tired from all the images I already uploaded for the thread.

Whoa I'm not saying Hawkman can beat Adam, because he can't. Just don't agree with how BA beat Hawkman HERE! Can he many otherways? Easily.

Yeppers

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Varies

I actually havn't uploaded the WW fight yet, either the Martian Manhunter/BloodWind. I stopped half way as I got tired from all the images I already uploaded for the thread.

Whoa I'm not saying Hawkman can beat Adam, because he can't. Just don't agree with how BA beat Hawkman HERE! Can he many otherways? Easily. Whatevs.

I never said you did say that.
I'm just not seeing what's wrong with how Adam beat him.
Plus, Adam's stronger than both MM (which is why I brought up the hardly comparable comment), and WW.

BentonGrey
Ohh man, that Aquaman fight is such bad writing on so many different levels. Anyroad, another good thread here. This would be a REALLY good fight, presuming that Wolverine can keep Arthur too busy to figure out that he can just shut down Namor's mind. If Arthur turns wing-foot into a vegetable, than Wolvie's going to have his claws clipped something awful. As it is, I feel like Hawkman could easily keep Namor busy, (maybe even hurt him some) thanks to his ridiculous speed and agility in the air, long enough for Aquaman to put Wolverine down and help him out. If it's Wolverine versus Hawkman? Well, I always think of Wolverine in his (much better) early version, before he was turned into a freakin' metal clawed god, so it's hard for me to say. I think Carter can pull it off. He should be able to batter Logan unconscious before he gets turned into sushi.

Still, this could easily go the other way. Wolverine can definitely hurt Arthur, and if Namor catches Hawkman and puts a serious beating on him, Carter's going down.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
I'm just not seeing what's wrong with how Adam beat him.
Plus, Adam's stronger than both MM (which is why I brought up the hardly comparable comment), and WW.

He has shown to fly without his wings in the past easily, even when Martian Manhunter ripped his wings off , and smashing nth metal? It's said to be indestructable or near, but it was most likely just a regular mace from his muesum though.

Meh! He isn't stronger then the Hawk God, or Synn

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Whatevs.

I never said you did say that.
I'm just not seeing what's wrong with how Adam beat him.
Plus, Adam's stronger than both MM (which is why I brought up the hardly comparable comment), and WW.
Prove that ADAm is stronger than WW? cuz I got a strength feat she did all on her own that pwns ANYThing he's done.

Gecko4lif
the eternity thing?

that made no sense at all

pis

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
the eternity thing?

that made no sense at all

pis

No more than Hulk clapping away a cosmos. But that isn't the one i'm referring to. Most people know the feat, but they never read what the panel says. It talks about the might it took for her to accomplish the feat. I'm referring to this and how much power she actually redirected.
http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww21deflection34yb.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww21deflection40gj.jpg

That is a HUGE strength feat if I ever saw one and one that no one ever pays attention to.

BentonGrey
Well Nvr, Captain Marvel has always been depicted as roughly even (or a little above or below, depending on who is writing) with Superman. Black Adam is Captain Marvel's opposite number, therefore, Black Adam should be fairly equivalent to Superman. From that, we can extrapolate that he's got to be somewhat more powerful than Wonder Woman. However, that's not really pertinent to this debate. sad

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