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3 on 3 who wns?

Good fight, I truly dont know who would win but Im going to do it like this.

Sentry beats wonderwoman
Juggernaut beat hulk after a long battle.
Thor and brb are basically equals IF youre talking about classic thor, current thor would solo this.

I dont know who would win, I'll wait for other post to come through.

Thor removes Cain. Three on 2

Team One FTW

Wonder Woman Subdues Hulk or Sentry and it's two on three with team two having an advantage of Speed then. Neither Sentry nor WWH are on the level of any of the others.

Team 1

team 1

two high heralds on team 1 is too much

Originally posted by Nihilist
team 1

two high heralds on team 1 is too much

The only one on team 1 or even on the battlefield that I would consider high herald is brb and thor. There versatily and power is almost equal to that of surfer. The rest are low herald beings not saying that sentry couldnt pull off some wins against them but he still isnt high herald.

Removing Cain from the battle makes its a stomp for Team 1. Hulk is pissed. Thor is warrior bred and Robert is still delusional But they do win

Originally posted by carver9
The only one on team 1 or even on the battlefield that I would consider high herald is brb and thor. There versatily and power is almost equal to that of surfer. The rest are low herald beings not saying that sentry couldnt pull off some wins against them but he still isnt high herald.
sentry is high hrld lvl

Originally posted by Nihilist
sentry is high hrld lvl

Well sentry has brought back life, erased everyone memory in his universe of him. displayed some of the most awesome power that I have seen in a long time when he fought the hulk, can emit light from his hands/eyes, has the ability to control people emotions. Has telekinesis, is a telepath of the 1st brand, can teleport (which he displayed when ironman found him in a cave), and Im not including the super strength, flight, invulnerability because to many characters has those ability. It would be thousands of high herald level characters if it was just that. I agree though, with sentry powerset he is a high herald level being and we have yet to see what else he can do. There are some other powers that he have that I forgot to name, Im going to look it up though but I agree.

I give this one to Sentry, Hulk and thor. !!

sentry hulk thor win it

Originally posted by guy222
Thor removes Cain. Three on 2

Team One FTW Agreed.

welcome back quan

Originally posted by guy222
Thor removes Cain. Three on 2

Team One FTW

Or diana speed blitzes Hulk. Juggy beats thor again, and Beta rapes Sentry.

Hulk would get bfred easily the juggs goes then its 2 on 2 Wonder Woman would slap Bob silly while Bill and Thor stalemate then its 2 on 1 Team two takes it.

imo this is how its going down.
BRB and Thor duke it out.
Sentry goes after the Juggernaut,
he's scared of women...
Diana then decapites Hulk,
and proceeds lassoing the slowest of the two
which of is Thor, then its a three on one
assualt on the super clone

Yikes.

Ww is the lowest on the totem pole here, she'd get beat down by WWH
Thor and brb batte hard, but the original comes out on top over the imitator.
Sentry is far to versitile for juggernaut.

Nah Diana would easily bfr the Hulk or ko him.

team 1 FTW.
Sentry >> Wonder Woman
WWHulk >> Juggernaut
Thor = BRB


Sentry would bfr/ko WW first, then go help Thor tip the scales against BRB.
then they'd watch as the Hulk - Juggernaut slugfest reached its inevitable conclusion with Hulk going uber powerful and KO'ing/bfr'ing or outright killing Juggernaut.

Uh...Wonder Woman is actually one of the highest on this 'totem pole'.

If anyone is the weak link, it's Hulk. In fact, yea. He is easily the weakest.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Or diana speed blitzes Hulk. Juggy beats thor again, and Beta rapes Sentry.

False, diana speedblitzs no one both on forum fights and in comics. I really dont want to get into this again.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Uh...Wonder Woman is actually one of the highest on this 'totem pole'.

If anyone is the weak link, it's Hulk. In fact, yea. He is easily the weakest.

Agreed.

Sentry can revive people though, and seeing as he's fast enough to catch bullets before they travel like 1/10 of an inch, as well as hit saturn in a couple of panels, I dares say he's fast enough to keep up with Diana.

Thor and BRB are somewhat equal, only Thor has feats above Bill.

Juggernaut gets BFR'ed whether it's Hulk, Sentry or Thor he takes on.

Originally posted by llagrok
Agreed.

Sentry can revive people though, and seeing as he's fast enough to catch bullets before they travel like 1/10 of an inch, as well as hit saturn in a couple of panels, I dares say he's fast enough to keep up with Diana.

Thor and BRB are somewhat equal, only Thor has feats above Bill.

Juggernaut gets BFR'ed whether it's Hulk, Sentry or Thor he takes on.

Wait. Hold on a second. How come Juggernaut gets BFRed like it's cake, but Hulk can't? If anything, Hulk is the easiest member to BFR, as Juggernaut is mystical in nature and can return under his own power. People seem to keep forgetting this. Juggernaut, on more than one occasion, has been telekinetically lifted up off the ground and continued to move forward under his own power, despite not having any leverage or foot-holds.

So, in short: Juggernaut >>>> Hulk.

Everyone else on these teams >>>>>> Hulk.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wait. Hold on a second. How come Juggernaut gets BFRed like it's cake, but Hulk can't? If anything, Hulk is the easiest member to BFR, as Juggernaut is mystical in nature and can return under his own power. People seem to keep forgetting this. Juggernaut, on more than one occasion, has been telekinetically lifted up off the ground and continued to move forward under his own power, despite not having any leverage or foot-holds.

So, in short: Juggernaut >>>> Hulk.

Everyone else on these teams >>>>>> Hulk.

Naah you underestimating hulk, Juggernaut and hulk can basically take anyone on the field without bfr (I dont think hulk could take thor or brb but he can take the rest).

Wonder woman is a physical character and she would get overwhelmed and crushed by the hulk. I agree, there truly is no way to beat juggernaut especially since he can return to the battlefield thats why Im undecided in this match because thor would have to pull that same trick that he pulled before and rid juggernaut of his power but since juggernaut has been a pest in thors side since his creation I think that juggs is going to attack him 1st.

If this is Trion Juggernaut, team 2 wins by centillions of light-years

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
If this is Trion Juggernaut, team 2 wins by centillions of light-years Does it say Trion Juggernaut?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Uh...Wonder Woman is actually one of the highest on this 'totem pole'.

If anyone is the weak link, it's Hulk. In fact, yea. He is easily the weakest. I agree he is the weakest here but the fact that he can bfred easily makes him easy game. Team two wins this.

WonderWoman should destroy the Hulk. Shes an actual top notch H2H fighter, not just a brawling big green PIS machine.

Originally posted by redhotrash
WonderWoman should destroy the Hulk. Shes an actual top notch H2H fighter, not just a brawling big green PIS machine. Imo WW Hulk destroys Wonderwoman. Physically he is way too much and she doesnt have the durability to take more than a few blows from Hulk imo.

Team 2 takes it. Thor is the only threat to the Juggernaut on team 1.

Originally posted by redhotrash
WonderWoman should destroy the Hulk. Shes an actual top notch H2H fighter, not just a brawling big green PIS machine. Yup her speed, strength and fighting abilities would make wwh look silly in this fight.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yup her speed, strength and fighting abilities would make wwh look silly in this fight.

Oops. I forgot which site I was on when I posted. I forgot to put on my kmc glasses that allows me to see things about WW that the rest of the comic reading world doesnt see.

I dont even particularly like WonderWoman, but she sure as hell takes out the Hulk. Shes recieved major training and skillwise is on another level than the Hulk. Her strength and durability arent anything to scoff at either.

Originally posted by jks
Oops. I forgot which site I was on when I posted. I forgot to put on my kmc glasses that allows me to see things about WW that the rest of the comic reading world doesnt see.

Originally posted by jks
Oops. I forgot which site I was on when I posted. I forgot to put on my kmc glasses that allows me to see things about WW that the rest of the comic reading world doesnt see.
count yourself lucky, I can't see past her cleavage... and definitely can't see straight for hours if I dwell on her for any longer than it takes to read a speech bubble.



getting back on topic, Team 1 wins this convincingly.

Hulk cannot be "killed" or any such thing, by anyone on Team 2. and definitely not quickly. Sentry went all out, didn't do any lasting (or even notable) damage whatsoever.

Sentry is capable of creating an energy attack that envelops team 2, whilst he pounds away at WW or mentally screws up Juggernaut.

Hulk can take down BRB physically or at least keep him busy long enough that Thor bfr's Team 2.

Thor may not cause any damage to Juggernaut with a regular attack, but the GodBlast has pushed him back and a really powerful one would definitely hurt Juggernaut. so there's always the possibility of Thor softening up Juggernaut so that Sentry's energies (which are enveloping the battlefield) will cause further damage.

I definitely don't see Juggernaut contributing anything to Team 2, due to his zero range, zero superspeed and extremely limited offensive skills (which amount to flailing his arms about and waiting for someone to connect with one of them). this is a crucial handicap in such, an otherwise even match up.

Originally posted by janus77
count yourself lucky, I can't see past her cleavage... and definitely can't see straight for hours if I dwell on her for any longer than it takes to read a speech bubble.

getting back on topic, Team 1 wins this convincingly.

Hulk cannot be "killed" or any such thing, by anyone on Team 2. and definitely not quickly. Sentry went all out, didn't do any lasting (or even notable) damage whatsoever.

Sentry is capable of creating an energy attack that envelops team 2, whilst he pounds away at WW or mentally screws up Juggernaut.

Hulk can take down BRB physically or at least keep him busy long enough that Thor bfr's Team 2.

Thor may not cause any damage to Juggernaut with a regular attack, but the GodBlast has pushed him back and a really powerful one would definitely hurt Juggernaut. so there's always the possibility of Thor softening up Juggernaut so that Sentry's energies (which are enveloping the battlefield) will cause further damage.

I definitely don't see Juggernaut contributing anything to Team 2, due to his zero range, zero superspeed and extremely limited offensive skills (which amount to flailing his arms about and waiting for someone to connect with one of them). this is a crucial handicap in such, an otherwise even match up.

You don't make any sense. Hulk is the weak link here, unless you think that Hulk > Juggernaut for some strange reason.

How is that Sentry's gonna use a psychic attack on Juggs when he's got the impenetrable forcefield? Juggs pretty much doesn't get physically affected unless he consciously lowers his shield. Plus, god-blast did nothing to Jugg but provide him with a bright flash of light. He dusted himself off and continued his rampage/attack as if nothing happened.

In my opinion, Hulk gets tossed into the sun in the first second of the fight. With no way to return, he's out of the fight. Sure, you might argue that Juggernaut will be BFRed, too. Well, you could, but then I'd tell you that he can return under his own power, as he has done before. Hell, if Juggy's already got some momentum going, anyone on team 1 would be hard-pressed to do any such thing to Juggy without some crazy tactics on their part.

In short: No one is physically hurting the Juggernaut here.

I'm still not really saying who wins this because the other four members of these two teams are all extremely well-matched (in my opinion). But I just really wanted to shed some light on the whole Juggy/Hulk thing.

Edit: And such severely gross underestimating of Wonder Woman!

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You don't make any sense. Hulk is the weak link here, unless you think that Hulk > Juggernaut for some strange reason.

How is that Sentry's gonna use a psychic attack on Juggs when he's got the impenetrable forcefield? Juggs pretty much doesn't get physically affected unless he consciously lowers his shield. Plus, god-blast did nothing to Jugg but provide him with a bright flash of light. He dusted himself off and continued his rampage/attack as if nothing happened.

In my opinion, Hulk gets tossed into the sun in the first second of the fight. With no way to return, he's out of the fight. Sure, you might argue that Juggernaut will be BFRed, too. Well, you could, but then I'd tell you that he can return under his own power, as he has done before. Hell, if Juggy's already got some momentum going, anyone on team 1 would be hard-pressed to do any such thing to Juggy without some crazy tactics on their part.

In short: No one is physically hurting the Juggernaut here.

I'm still not really saying who wins this because the other four members of these two teams are all extremely well-matched (in my opinion). But I just really wanted to shed some light on the whole Juggy/Hulk thing.

Edit: And such severely gross underestimating of Wonder Woman! WW Hulk did beat Juggernaut twice.

lol .

and no, Juggernaut doesn't "return under his own power", show me a scan of him doing so? 'cos as far as I recall, he needs to beg and plead with Cyttorak to be transported across distances.


Hulk is most certainly >> Juggernaut, btw. Onslaught was physically >>>>> Juggernaut (punching him across a continent!), yet when a much more powerful Onslaught went up against Hulk, Hulk triumphed.


Hulk is too fast and mobile for a quick bfr, Juggernaut is immobile, unskilled and has been bfr'd by Hulk with a mere slap.

maybe unremitting hatred towards a character isn't the best place to start from, when judging how battles would go?

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk did beat Juggernaut twice.



Okay. He beat a vastly depowered Juggernaut.

One.

He then realized he would not be able to defeat the newly-repowered Juggernaut, so he decided to use his momentum against him and send him out of the battlefield.

Two?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
He then realized he would not be able to defeat the newly-repowered Juggernaut, so he decided to use his momentum against him and send him out of the battlefield.

Two?


what where you saying about Hulk getting bfr'd first?
so... Hulk casually slapping Juggernaut out of the way wasn't an easy bfr?

Hulk is clearly the stronger and more durable, no limits. add to that his overall advantage in speed, mobility, fighting technique and brains ... Juggernaut isn't standing up to him.

Originally posted by Metalmanx


Okay. He beat a vastly depowered Juggernaut.

One.

He then realized he would not be able to defeat the newly-repowered Juggernaut, so he decided to use his momentum against him and send him out of the battlefield.

Two?

He still won both times. He beat the Juggernaut after he went through two teams of mutants. He said he didnt have all day and easily bfr'd him is the point. WW Hulk opposed all these mutants and he won easily.

Bfr is a win on this board. That makes it two wins.

yes wwh will definitely overcome juggernaut in the end...but they would both be bfred well before its even close to the end or there fight

I don't see WWH getting bfr'd quickly, who's gonna do it?
WW's not got the power (as well as being busy fighting Sentry) and BRB's going to have his hands full with Thor.

if the pussy option of bfr is on then team 1, otherwise team 2 ftw because no one team 1 is beating juggs in a slugfest.

Originally posted by janus77
lol .

and no, Juggernaut doesn't "return under his own power", show me a scan of him doing so? 'cos as far as I recall, he needs to beg and plead with Cyttorak to be transported across distances.

Hulk is most certainly >> Juggernaut, btw. Onslaught was physically >>>>> Juggernaut (punching him across a continent!), yet when a much more powerful Onslaught went up against Hulk, Hulk triumphed.

Hulk is too fast and mobile for a quick bfr, Juggernaut is immobile, unskilled and has been bfr'd by Hulk with a mere slap.

maybe unremitting hatred towards a character isn't the best place to start from, when judging how battles would go?

There have been at least two instances where Jean has telekinetically lifted Juggernaut off the ground. With no footholds or leverage, he started to walk forward, easily resisting Jean's telekinetic hold over him. On air, suspended above the ground. This leads (at least) me to believe that because of his mystical empowerment, he could potentially walk anywhere if he remembers that he can do this.

But this happens with Juggernaut. At one point, he displayed other offensive magical abilities, but they've been rarely touched on since then.

Hulk is too fast for a quick BFR? Do you have any idea how fast Wonder Woman is?

You guys are ridiculous.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs2.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs4.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs5.jpg

Juggernaut is clearly overpowering the Hulk. Even manages to push him back.

More durable than Juggernaut? God, it's like some of you never knew about Juggernaut before he got depowered. Juggs is also just as strong he wants to be. Infinitely.

Would you call Superman BFRed if he was thrown off the Earth only to consciously stop himself and fly back? Well, the same applies here. Even if Juggs is BFRed, he'll just come back. It's not as if he's completely helpless once he's been removed. Also, that distance was only this one instance. Who's to say he'll be knocked that far away again? Of course (I'm fair), he could knocked farther away as well. Point is, he can return, and probably long before any winner between these two teams is determined.

Anyway. Juggy can also attack with other methods, and not just against Hulk:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/juggs_strange1.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/juggs_strange2.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1971/18wj6.jpg

Originally posted by Metalmanx


He then realized he would not be able to defeat the newly-repowered Juggernaut, so he decided to use his momentum against him and send him out of the battlefield.

Two?



Im confused, i thought battlefiled removal was considered as beating someone?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Im confused, i thought battlefiled removal was considered as beating someone?

It can be. And honestly, I'll be okay if it. My only problem is that some of these debaters seem to think that Juggy will be easily BFRed while Hulk will not. So I'm just sitting here, dumbfounded, trying to understand why they think that. Hulk's got a much higher chance of being BFRed than Juggy.

But yes. Regardless, both of them can be. And probably would be in a fight. So this thread is more accurately:

Sentry, WWH vs. Wonder Woman, Beta Ray Bill

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You guys are ridiculous.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs2.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs4.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs5.jpg

Juggernaut is clearly overpowering the Hulk. Even manages to push him back.

More durable than Juggernaut? God, it's like some of you never knew about Juggernaut before he got depowered. Juggs is also just as strong he wants to be. Infinitely.

Would you call Superman BFRed if he was thrown off the Earth only to consciously stop himself and fly back? Well, the same applies here. Even if Juggs is BFRed, he'll just come back. It's not as if he's completely helpless once he's been removed. Also, that distance was only this one instance. Who's to say he'll be knocked that far away again? Of course (I'm fair), he could knocked farther away as well. Point is, he can return, and probably long before any winner between these two teams is determined.



I dont know where the "clearly" in ur statement comes from. For one in that fight jugs got in three hits while hulk got in two. Getting in one more hit hardly qualifies as clearly overpowering. Further juggernaut pushing hulk back DOES NOT qualify as overpowering the hulk because juggernaut has an enchantment that makes him" UNSTOPPABLE" evn by the likes of hulk.

As for durability. Juggernaut is certainly more durable than hulk. That should not evn be debated. Howver i dont know where you are getting the idea that juggernaut can be as strong as he wants to be. If this was true then there would be know eighth day juggernaut or trion juggernaut who are versions of juggernaut that were able to access more of cyttoraks power. Cyttorrak may have infinite strength but as long as juggernuat is not accessing his full power all the time the same cannot be said of juggernaut.

Further if hulk BFRs juggernaut it wont be to some place jugs can come back within the duration of the battle. Jugs would likely be in another state. Howvwer for hulk to BFr jugs in such a way he would have to physically overpower him and overcome his resistance. The same goes for Juggernaut.

Team 1 takes this. Jugg will pump WWH up to levels that allow him to BFR Juggs.

Sentry and Thor vs Bill and WW?....

Team 1 all day.

Originally posted by janus77
I don't see WWH getting bfr'd quickly, who's gonna do it?
WW's not got the power (as well as being busy fighting Sentry) and BRB's going to have his hands full with Thor. What Wonder Woman doesnt have the power? Right because she isn't a class 100 with good speed and fighting ability yeah. She is above any Hulk

Originally posted by fangirl101
Or diana speed blitzes Hulk. Juggy beats thor again, and Beta rapes Sentry.

dont see beta rapeing sentry.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Team 1 takes this. Jugg will pump WWH up to levels that allow him to BFR Juggs.

Sentry and Thor vs Bill and WW?....

Team 1 all day. Agreed. Thor could bfr Juggs immediately.

I don't get see how you guys think BFR'ing Juggernaut is easier than BFR'ing the Hulk.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I don't get see how you guys think BFR'ing Juggernaut is easier than BFR'ing the Hulk.

It's not. If anything. Hulk is taken out faster. That lasso out to do the trick.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I don't get see how you guys think BFR'ing Juggernaut is easier than BFR'ing the Hulk. The WW Hulk bfrd Juggs not the other way around.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Agreed. Thor could bfr Juggs immediately.

And Beta Ray Bill will BFR Hulk immediately.

Like I said before (although looking back, I realized I made a critical typo):

Sentry and Thor vs. Wonder Woman and Beta Ray Bill

still sensing your 'reasoning' is emanating more from your extreme dislike of the Hulk character than consideration of showings, powers and context.


Sentry and Thor will handle BRB and WW. Juggernaut will get BRF'd by Hulk.

Originally posted by janus77
still sensing your 'reasoning' is emanating more from your extreme dislike of the Hulk character than consideration of showings, powers and context.

Sentry and Thor will handle BRB and WW. Juggernaut will get BRF'd by Hulk.

Goddamnit. I'm getting tired of this.

I. DON'T. HATE. THE. HULK. I really don't. Don't believe me? Guess there's nothing I can do.

But Hulk can be BFRed just as easily as Juggy can. And either one of them/both of them should be BFRed immediately if these teams fight with any intelligence.

I like Sentry, but I haven't been too impressed with him lately. I think Wondy can take him. And Bill can at least hold off Thor for some time, allowing Wondy to double team Thor for the win.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And Beta Ray Bill will BFR Hulk immediately.

Like I said before (although looking back, I realized I made a critical typo):

Sentry and Thor vs. Wonder Woman and Beta Ray Bill Sentry and Thor still beat WW and BRB any day of the weak. WW is the weak link here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry and Thor still beat WW and BRB any day of the weak. WW is the weak link here.

Back it up. Prove that she is the weak link. from where I'm looking, she was hanging with Konvict on her own once Superman left the battle field.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The WW Hulk bfrd Juggs not the other way around.

What exactly do you think that means?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Back it up. Prove that she is the weak link. from where I'm looking, she was hanging with Konvict on her own once Superman left the battle field. It was still a team effort. So if she was hanging with Konvikt it was only due to the circumstances. Had she beat him one on one youd have a point but she didnt.



Physically Sentry is well beyond WW imo. She is more skilled but that doesnt really help her much against Superman either does it?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
What exactly do you think that means? That Juggs by far is the easiest person on this list to bfr and even WW Hulk can do it easily as he already accomplished this in an actual comic.

WWH is as much at risk of BFR as Juggernaut. Plus these are teams, if they want to win, don't you think they're going to make sure their main source of muscle doesn't get BFR'd? Hulk or Juggernaut?

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was still a team effort. So if she was hanging with Konvikt it was only due to the circumstances. Had she beat him one on one youd have a point but she didnt.



Physically Sentry is well beyond WW imo. She is more skilled but that doesnt really help her much against Superman either does it?

Prove That she is the weak link. When GL scanned Konvict, his power readings were still off the charts while he was knocked out. So he wasn't eany weaker when Wondy was fighting him alone. You forget that she did fight him one on one for quite a while while Superman attended to Batman.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
WWH is as much at risk of BFR as Juggernaut. Plus these are teams, if they want to win, don't you think they're going to make sure their main source of muscle doesn't get BFR'd? Hulk or Juggernaut? I agreed this coul dand most likely would come down to two on two minus Juggernaut and the WW Hulk so us having a debate over who out of these two is easier to bfr is kind of a waste of time. Wouldnt you agree?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Prove That she is the weak link. What is it that you are disagreeing with exactly from my earlier post. Do you think she is physically more than Sentry or has more power than Thor?

I agree, BFR sucks anyway.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I agree, BFR sucks anyway. Agreed.

To me I think bfr is only viable or should be if someone like Juggs is involved with his plot device or if someone has the odds stacked against them.

But usually I would hope when most make these threads they dont see bfr as an actual win. We want to see these fight 99 percent of the time not beat with with a ring out so to speak.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Prove That she is the weak link.

In a two on two fight that is

WW and BRB vs Thor and sentry, she is definitely the weak link. She has the most limited powerset out of all of them. She may be the best Hand to hand fighter and have her lasso but that can be kept in check by sentrys enrgy powers. NOw her shield and bracelets will help her to bear alot of sentrys enrgy attacks but certainly not all of it. HEr weakness to sharp objects will be her downfall as the sentry can use his enrgy to temeporarily subdue her and then drive thousands of hard sharp light constructs into her body. T

Originally posted by ultimatethor
In a two on two fight that is

WW and BRB vs Thor and sentry, she is definitely the weak link. She has the most limited powerset out of all of them. She may be the best Hand to hand fighter and have her lasso but that can be kept in check by sentrys enrgy powers. NOw her shield and bracelets will help her to bear alot of sentrys enrgy attacks but certainly not all of it. HEr weakness to sharp objects will be her downfall as the sentry can use his enrgy to temeporarily subdue her and then drive thousands of hard sharp light constructs into her body. T

Um, Wonder Woman subdued by sentry's energy? I haven't seen someone on his level do that. And I haven't seen him use his powers like you suggest. So far, Wondy's extremely durable to energy attacks. As seen when she covered a warp core explosion with her body. As far as thousands of hard light constructs, she blocked that many or more when she fought the god of light. What is going to help sentry from her right hook? Or that lasso? or getting beheaded by her tiara? Sentry is the weak link in this two v two.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Um, Wonder Woman subdued by sentry's energy? I haven't seen someone on his level do that. And I haven't seen him use his powers like you suggest. So far, Wondy's extremely durable to energy attacks. As seen when she covered a warp core explosion with her body. As far as thousands of hard light constructs, she blocked that many or more when she fought the god of light. What is going to help sentry from her right hook? Or that lasso? or getting beheaded by her tiara? Sentry is the weak link in this two v two.

In WWH sentry used his enrgy to hold WWH down on the floor temporarily. WWH is physically considerably superior to wonderwoman so it should not be that hard for Bob to do the same to her. Yes wondy is quite durable but it does not mean that the sentry cant affect her with his enrgy. Also i mentioned sentry subduing her with his enrgy in order to make her unable to block his thousands of sharp light constructs. In this fight sentry is not going to be charging in like he was against WWH so he can use his enrgy to guard against the tiara. Also wonderwomans right hook is not going to badly dmage a guy that took multiple shots from WWH.

Sentrys enrgy and light manipulation makes the differenc here.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
In WWH sentry used his enrgy to hold WWH down on the floor temporarily. WWH is physically considerably superior to wonderwoman so it should not be that hard for Bob to do the same to her. Yes wondy is quite durable but it does not mean that the sentry cant affect her with his enrgy. Also i mentioned sentry subduing her with his enrgy in order to make her unable to block his thousands of sharp light constructs. In this fight sentry is not going to be charging in like he was against WWH so he can use his enrgy to guard against the tiara. Also wonderwomans right hook is not going to badly dmage a guy that took multiple shots from WWH.

Sentrys enrgy and light manipulation makes the differenc here. Wait. When did Sentry become such a wonderful tactician? Why is World War Hulk considerbly stronger than WW? What has he done that puts him so far above her? And If' I"m not mistaken, speed and skill also add to the damage someone can inflict. WW's speed is far greater than hulks. And so is her skill. Now Sentry is going to not rush in to wonder woman when he does that ALL of the time? WTF. And he's going to use his energy powers to subdue her. Goodness. All while crating thousands of light shards.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That Juggs by far is the easiest person on this list to bfr and even WW Hulk can do it easily as he already accomplished this in an actual comic. Technically jugs wasn't bfred he could return under his own power so no on kmc he wasn't bfred. Plus jugs pwns wwh 10/10

Originally posted by fangirl101
Wait. When did Sentry become such a wonderful tactician? Why is World War Hulk considerbly stronger than WW? What has he done that puts him so far above her? And If' I"m not mistaken, speed and skill also add to the damage someone can inflict. WW's speed is far greater than hulks. And so is her skill. Now Sentry is going to not rush in to wonder woman when he does that ALL of the time? WTF. And he's going to use his energy powers to subdue her. Goodness. All while crating thousands of light shards.

There the rule on this forum of characters using there established powers to the fullest. Supermans normal way of fighting bricks is to slug it out with them. But in a fight against hulk on KMC he uses his speed and is able to win handily. the way surfer fights all the time is by giving lectures to his opponents and hence giving them openings to attack him. But on KMC he uses his powers fully. The same goes for thor who in the comics enjoys sluging it out and not using his more exotic powers but uses them on KMC. All that i mentioned is fully within Sentrys ability,and is therefore viable. WWH is considerably stronger than wonderwoman. Holding a larger than earth size planet together with pure strength unaided by anything such as hypersonic flight is a feat that puts him above her. When we also take into consideration the feats that hulks much weaker than WWH have performed such as, pnching thru a time storm, destroying an asteroid twice the size of earth, overcoming forces powerful enough to change the orbit of a planet etc, it is clear that WWH is stronger.

Wonderwomans does have great speed and skill but does not have the damage soak abilities of WWH. Hence the hits the sentry lands will cause more lasting damage than they did against WWH. Wonderwomans skill would come into play mainly if sentry tried to duke it out with her physically. There is howver no need for that with his light manipulation and enrgy powers. IF u dont like me saying thousands of shards than i can reduce the number to only one. As its only one well placed shard to the head that is needed to finish her off.

I have one share two wonderwoman dukes it out with superman and wwh dukes it out with the sentry hmmm I give wonderman the nod against the hulk

Originally posted by ultimatethor
There the rule on this forum of characters using there established powers to the fullest. Supermans normal way of fighting bricks is to slug it out with them. But in a fight against hulk on KMC he uses his speed and is able to win handily. the way surfer fights all the time is by giving lectures to his opponents and hence giving them openings to attack him. But on KMC he uses his powers fully. The same goes for thor who in the comics enjoys sluging it out and not using his more exotic powers but uses them on KMC. All that i mentioned is fully within Sentrys ability,and is therefore viable. WWH is considerably stronger than wonderwoman. Holding a larger than earth size planet together with pure strength unaided by anything such as hypersonic flight is a feat that puts him above her. When we also take into consideration the feats that hulks much weaker than WWH have performed such as, pnching thru a time storm, destroying an asteroid twice the size of earth, overcoming forces powerful enough to change the orbit of a planet etc, it is clear that WWH is stronger.

Wonderwomans does have great speed and skill but does not have the damage soak abilities of WWH. Hence the hits the sentry lands will cause more lasting damage than they did against WWH. Wonderwomans skill would come into play mainly if sentry tried to duke it out with her physically. There is howver no need for that with his light manipulation and enrgy powers. IF u dont like me saying thousands of shards than i can reduce the number to only one. As its only one well placed shard to the head that is needed to finish her off.

The first and biggest problem with your statement is that you actually think sentry has the SKILL to pull off what you are proposing. Prove that first.

Then you think he can get thru her defenses when as you stated, she would also be operating to maximum efficiancy. Which means she won't allow him to get close enough and if he does, she would deflect his blast and punches. And she can return his fire back onto himself. Now she also can lasso him or cut his head off with her tiara. And since she's taken shots from oblivion who has proven to knock out Superman, I doubt Sentry is going to be able to do her more harm.

The Weakest link here being WW, i think team 1 takes it. Sentry does away with Diana quick, WWH and juggy stalemate and Thor finished bill.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
The Weakest link here being WW, i think team 1 takes it. Sentry does away with Diana quick, WWH and juggy stalemate and Thor finished bill.

Now name some feats that give sentry a quick victory over Wonder Woman. Who recenty was seen hanging with a guy who one shotted Superman. Please. Tell us.

Sentry > WW
WWH > Juggs
Thor >/= BRB

Originally posted by fangirl101
Now name some feats that give sentry a quick victory over Wonder Woman. Who recenty was seen hanging with a guy who one shotted Superman. Please. Tell us.

Lets see off the top of my head

Stalemating Genis-vell and was stated that both their power output would shred entire worlds, and even so, they were holding back

Easily stomping Terrax

Taking a Nuclear Explosion, then making a joke about it afterwords.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Technically jugs wasn't bfred he could return under his own power so no on kmc he wasn't bfred. Plus jugs pwns wwh 10/10 He was bfr'd in the comic and lost the confrontation. He lost twice imo in this story.

Juggs was fighting a calm WW Hulk and was easily bfr'd after Hulk fought two teams of mutants. Immediately afterwards and he still got the job done easily.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The first and biggest problem with your statement is that you actually think sentry has the SKILL to pull off what you are proposing. Prove that first.

Then you think he can get thru her defenses when as you stated, she would also be operating to maximum efficiancy. Which means she won't allow him to get close enough and if he does, she would deflect his blast and punches. And she can return his fire back onto himself. Now she also can lasso him or cut his head off with her tiara. And since she's taken shots from oblivion who has proven to knock out Superman, I doubt Sentry is going to be able to do her more harm.

To do what i stated the sentry does NOT need such great skill. All he needs is a half a brain to use his powers properly. And as regarding wonderwomans defenses, her main way of blocking sentry will obviously be her shield as sentry can create enrgy tornadoes far to large for her to use her bracelets to block. Howver while her shield is up she cant attack. She can try reflecting sentrys blasts back to him but this is not a good style of attack and is easily dodgeable.

As i said the sentrys can use his enrgy to easily nullify wonderwomans lasso and tiara in this match. Also the whole point of my argument is that the Sentry SHOULD NOT get involved in cloe quarter combat if he wants to win. He can instead use his enrgy and light manipulation and keep a safe distance from WW.

Since wonderwoman cant continuosly defend and expect to win, she will have to at some point initiate an attack on sentry which will make her vulnerable to this strategy. It is at this point that the sentry will use his enrgy to subdue her and impale her with tendrils.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sentry > WW
WWH > Juggs
Thor >/= BRB



Lets see off the top of my head

Stalemating Genis-vell and was stated that both their power output would shred entire worlds, and even so, they were holding back

Easily stomping Terrax

Taking a Nuclear Explosion, then making a joke about it afterwords.
OK.
Well Wondy has taken from Superman, who was recently shown dishing it out to the God killer Infinity man.

She's dished it and taken it from and to Konvict.

She's taken a warp core nuclear blast directly smothering it and getting up and talking about it.

There is no doubt that WW is the weakest link of all combatants. Not only Durabilty but she has the weakest overall destructive potential of out everyone.

WW depends on things like her armor, weapons etc. Does she get access to things such as belt of strength, if not she likely goes out 1st.

Juggernaut gets BFR'd as he often does on most occasions since his stamina and durabilty otherwise keeps him in this. WWH has stood toe to toe with him and if continually kept enraged could easily send Juggs to Saturn, or drop him in a crater he makes incapacitating him. Or he could simply keep knocking him to the other side of the world.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
There is no doubt that WW is the weakest link of all combatants. Not only Durabilty but she has the weakest overall destructive potential of out everyone.

WW depends on things like her armor, weapons etc. Does she get access to things such as belt of strength, if not she likely goes out 1st.

Juggernaut gets BFR'd as he often does on most occasions since his stamina and durabilty otherwise keeps him in this. WWH has stood toe to toe with him and if continually kept enraged could easily send Juggs to Saturn, or drop him in a crater he makes incapacitating him. Or he could simply keep knocking him to the other side of the world.

And yet, Juggernaut could do the exact same thing that you theorize to Hulk instead.

And it's still ridiculous to think that WW is the weakest link here. Just taking a few minutes to check out her feats (http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,100957.0.html) will tell you that she's one of the strongest here.

Durability low? The same person who regularly takes attacks from Superman with hardly any damage? Destructive power low? Again, the same person who has shown the ability to kick the crap out of Superman when she really needs to?

I just don't get it. I don't even like DC, but it's so obvious to me that she's easily one of the most powerful.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And yet, Juggernaut could do the exact same thing that you theorize to Hulk instead.

And it's still ridiculous to think that WW is the weakest link here. Just taking a few minutes to check out her feats (http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,100957.0.html) will tell you that she's one of the strongest here.

Durability low? The same person who regularly takes attacks from Superman with hardly any damage? Destructive power low? Again, the same person who has shown the ability to kick the crap out of Superman when she really needs to?

I just don't get it. I don't even like DC, but it's so obvious to me that she's easily one of the most powerful.

Again how is she easily the most powerful, she doesnt have Juggy durbaility...she doesnt have WWH level strength or thor's versatility or even sentrys energy output. The only thing she has going for her is combat speed and h2h skill but her punches are going to hardly phaes anyone on in this fight. She is either oneshotted by WWH or beat down by sentry.

Godwave, end?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And yet, Juggernaut could do the exact same thing that you theorize to Hulk instead.

And it's still ridiculous to think that WW is the weakest link here. Just taking a few minutes to check out her feats (http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,100957.0.html) will tell you that she's one of the strongest here.

Durability low? The same person who regularly takes attacks from Superman with hardly any damage? Destructive power low? Again, the same person who has shown the ability to kick the crap out of Superman when she really needs to?

I just don't get it. I don't even like DC, but it's so obvious to me that she's easily one of the most powerful. Yes in theory Juggs could bfr WW Hulk but in the comic the exact opposite happened.

WW cant take too many punches from superman. She can hang with him due to skill but due to raw physicality he pwns her. WW is very skilled but in terms of brawling and power she is at the bottom of the barrel here imo.