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beast
spider man
nightcrawler
catwoman
dr octopus


they have to swing there way across the amazon jungle.

rules are they cant touch the ground they can only swing from one branch to the next through the jungle or jump from one tree to another if they cant reach for another branch

no webbing and no teleporting.

question is who will make it to other side of the jungle 1st ?

id have to give it to beast since he spends the whole day in the danger room swinging around.

Beast and Spider-man tie. Spider man has an edge with his agility and ability to stick to the trees, while beast is just built for doing stuff like this.

Night Crawler puts up a fight for a while, but eventually falls behind and comes in a fairly close third...but then dies shortly after from exhaustion ;-p

Catwoman comes in fourth.

Dr. Octopus gets tangled up in the thick brush, which slows him way down. He places last.

IMHO, of course xD

Originally posted by Serious Impact
Beast and Spider-man tie. Spider man has an edge with his agility and ability to stick to the trees, while beast is just built for doing stuff like this.

Night Crawler puts up a fight for a while, but eventually falls behind and comes in a fairly close third...but then dies shortly after from exhaustion ;-p

Catwoman comes in fourth.

Dr. Octopus gets tangled up in the thick brush, which slows him way down. He places last.

IMHO, of course xD since the amazon is approx 1.6 million sq miles im sure somewhere through there spidey and beast would find some trouble. no way they can tie racing a distance like that. but yea those 2 would definitely make 1st or 2nd. unless you know someone else that isnt in the list that can whip them swinging feel free to add them.

Originally posted by chomperx9
since the amazon is approx 1.6 million sq miles im sure somewhere through there spidey and beast would find some trouble. no way they can tie racing a distance like that. but yea those 2 would definitely make 1st or 2nd. unless you know someone else that isnt in the list that can whip them swinging feel free to add them.

While I agree that they probably won't tie. That wasn't really my point, my point was that it would be so close between the two that it could easily go either way.

Spiderman - IMO he can launch himself father than Beast and go over the tree line easily. This would help him avoid troubles to.
Beast - he would be very quick from branch to branch but like I said Spider man imo can propell himself a few ancres at a time.
NC - Not as good at Beast but might get hindered by some animals or something.
Dr. O - Makes it but, dead last.

I think that venom or carnage would do excellent. They have Spidermans jumping ability plus they can extend there tendrils as far as they can. These are not webs. Sandman also would do good as he could not get tangled because his sand wont get stuck in the branches. Sandman dosent have to worry about animals. He can stretch pretty far.

Spidey.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I think that venom or carnage would do excellent. They have Spidermans jumping ability plus they can extend there tendrils as far as they can. These are not webs. Sandman also would do good as he could not get tangled because his sand wont get stuck in the branches. Sandman dosent have to worry about animals. He can stretch pretty far. that why i thought about giving spidey the symbiote but then it would make the race totally unfair. spidey already has a chance at winning without it. this race is about swinging and climbing from one tree to another i dont think sandman would do so good.

Hmm... how do you think vixen would do? If she used like monkey swinging power or something.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Hmm... how do you think vixen would do? If she used like monkey swinging power or something. hmm good point

i dont know why everyone keeps thinking otto would come in last since he can reach out further than the rest of them. his only downfall would be breaking the branches with his arms since they are so strong so i guess he might have to take it easy a little swinging and not grabbing so hard.

Squirrel Girl would beat them all at this contest.

I think it is also the weight. Those tentacles got to be heavy even if he grips them lightly it won't be able to support him. Unless he is gripping the tree trunks then idk....

You guys are underrating Kurt, he's more agile than Beast, and like Spider-Man, he can actually stick to walls and surfaces.

The really thick brush and treetop canopies would create visual barriers for Nightcrawler which would slow him down--he can't teleport and risk embedding himself in tree branches if he can't see well. I think it would slow him down enough to not keep up with spiderman at least. Maybe he could keep up with beast.

Originally posted by KingD19
You guys are underrating Kurt, he's more agile than Beast, and like Spider-Man, he can actually stick to walls and surfaces. true and hes got some good experience with swinging since he was a circus star most of his life.

Originally posted by chomperx9
that why i thought about giving spidey the symbiote but then it would make the race totally unfair. spidey already has a chance at winning without it. this race is about swinging and climbing from one tree to another i dont think sandman would do so good.

Sandman has been known to stretch pretty long distances. Sandman dosent actually have to climb he can will his sand from one location to another. He can form a long arm and hand made out of sand.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Sandman has been known to stretch pretty long distances. Sandman dosent actually have to climb he can will his sand from one location to another. He can form a long arm and hand made out of sand. thats why i didnt add mr fantastic or plastic man into the race cause stretching would make it unfair. the race is about climbing and jumping swinging whose more acrobatic .

Originally posted by chomperx9
beast
spider man
nightcrawler
catwoman
dr octopus


they have to swing there way across the amazon jungle.

rules are they cant touch the ground they can only swing from one branch to the next through the jungle or jump from one tree to another if they cant reach for another branch

no webbing and no teleporting.

question is who will make it to other side of the jungle 1st ? beast actually trains his brachiation skills, and his body is suited for that mode of travel.

but, the heat and humidity of that environment has to be shitty for mr. mcCoy, and the sheer distance he has to travel is imo outside of his capabilities. also, the amazon rainforest is not a flat plain, it has drop-offs and rivers throughout it' expanse.

and spider man is also prone to overheating, and the ills of the rainforest can kill him.

my vote is that nobody gets out alive under their own power. it's too large.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
beast actually trains his brachiation skills, and his body is suited for that mode of travel.

but, the heat and humidity of that environment has to be shitty for mr. mcCoy, and the sheer distance he has to travel is imo outside of his capabilities. also, the amazon rainforest is not a flat plain, it has drop-offs and rivers throughout it' expanse.

and spider man is also prone to overheating, and the ills of the rainforest can kill him.

my vote is that nobody gets out alive under their own power. it's too large. the race takes place in december

so. it's freakin' brazil.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
so. it's freakin' brazil. in winter any tropical climate is always gonna be not as hot as the rest of the year. im sure they can make it upper 70s swinging around

Beast, Nightcrawler, and Spidey have the highest chance of going the furthest, since all three of them are superhumanly agile, and can contort their bodies into poses that would make it extremely easy to traverse and navigate the jungle. Plus beast can grip just about anything, even climb up a building by jamming handholds into it, and Spidey and Kurt can stick to any solid surface. The symbiotes come in close second, because they're similar to spidey, but they aren't as good as him when it comes to not using their webs or tendrils to get around.

Catwoman has absolutely no chance, and Dr Octopus could potentially wreck the jungle by just pushing everything out of his way, but his speed isn't high enough to give him the win.

catwoman can't even flash for hitchhikers due to the abundant indigenous nudity.

it rains alot in the rainforest.....this will also make it difficult. I don't mean a little rain i mean an f'n lot.

Spiderman likely wins due to Beast and Nightcrawler passing out from heat exhaustion. That fur makes it hot, and that fact that it's hot, humid, raining, and their fur is blue, makes it worse.

beast and nightcrawler or going to get a spear up the ass from the locals due to their appearance, and they can't even ask for shelter.

WHo knows, they might come across a tribe who worships beastials.

if i saw a "god" wearing clothing, sweating and crawling from exhaustion in the amazon, i would think something is up.

then poke the shit out of it with a spear drenched in poison arrow frog juice.

Originally posted by KingD19
Spiderman likely wins due to Beast and Nightcrawler passing out from heat exhaustion. That fur makes it hot, and that fact that it's hot, humid, raining, and their fur is blue, makes it worse. all the other furry animals in the rainforest make it through out the entire year in the heat. beast might get a little more hot than night crawler since he's heavier but spiderman would be sweating to death as well since his whole body is in a costume.

I'm doubting (unless it has been shown in comics) that guys who can press 20 tons against the laws of physics are going to overheat in 90-100 degree heat. I understand they would generate a lot of heat working hard like they do, but surely they could tolerate both more heat and cold than average humans both I would think. Now dehydrate before going several hundred miles--yes possibly. But surely in a RAINforest they could find a drink or two.

Just because Beast can bench that much doesn't mean he can't get heat exhaustion. He and Nightcrawler have both been seen making comments about how their fur is inconvenient because it made them hot.

Spider-man can swing himself much farther than anyone else here.

Spidey gets farther then the rest, he could leap acorss the tree tops much further and faster then the others can travel.

No webs allowed Placidity, and in the Amazon, the only place he can really use his webs is crossing rivers and such. And once again, in the Amazon, leaping power doesn't mean much, it's all about finding a way to get around obstacles, and using the terrain to your advantage. Beast and Nightcrawler are best suited to this task, plus they can both see in the dark, so they could continue into the night if they paced themselves during the day, and went all out at night.

in that mutant agenda episode of spider man the animated series beast caught up to spidey in the woods swinging when spidey was trying to get away from everyone cause he was all stressed out of what was happening to him and no one wanted to help him.

Originally posted by chomperx9
in that mutant agenda episode of spider man the animated series beast caught up to spidey in the woods swinging when spidey was trying to get away from everyone cause he was all stressed out of what was happening to him and no one wanted to help him.
spiderman animated series isnt the same as comic spidey. Spider man can leap city blocks. Beasts isnt catching him if he leaps from treetops

Originally posted by KingD19
No webs allowed Placidity, and in the Amazon, the only place he can really use his webs is crossing rivers and such. And once again, in the Amazon, leaping power doesn't mean much, it's all about finding a way to get around obstacles, and using the terrain to your advantage. Beast and Nightcrawler are best suited to this task, plus they can both see in the dark, so they could continue into the night if they paced themselves during the day, and went all out at night.
leaping mean alot, seeing as he can leap to the tree tops and from the top of the canopys to get around easier.

Originally posted by jalek moye
spiderman animated series isnt the same as comic spidey. Spider man can leap city blocks. Beasts isnt catching him if he leaps from treetops but beast pretty much spends his whole day in the danger room swinging around. no webbing for spidey. i think spidey has more experience swinging but thats with using his webs. beasts has more experience using his arms swinging.

Originally posted by KingD19
No webs allowed Placidity, and in the Amazon, the only place he can really use his webs is crossing rivers and such. And once again, in the Amazon, leaping power doesn't mean much, it's all about finding a way to get around obstacles, and using the terrain to your advantage. Beast and Nightcrawler are best suited to this task, plus they can both see in the dark, so they could continue into the night if they paced themselves during the day, and went all out at night.

I meant swing himself from a tree branch.

Sorry for tha ambiguity.

Do you realize the height of most of the trees in the Amazon, and the sheer number of branches and obstacles that will keep him from just leaping straight up to the tree tops? And no problem Placidity.

Originally posted by KingD19
Do you realize the height of most of the trees in the Amazon, and the sheer number of branches and obstacles that will keep him from just leaping straight up to the tree tops? And no problem Placidity.

you realize how high he could jump also, and would have no problem swing around a branch to move him self up ward farther. And speaking of that he could still swing past more trees then beast and could just kick him self off of them.

Originally posted by KingD19
No webs allowed Placidity, and in the Amazon, the only place he can really use his webs is crossing rivers and such. And once again, in the Amazon, leaping power doesn't mean much, it's all about finding a way to get around obstacles, and using the terrain to your advantage. Beast and Nightcrawler are best suited to this task, plus they can both see in the dark, so they could continue into the night if they paced themselves during the day, and went all out at night. No, leaping power doesn't mean much to us, for someone with 10+ ton strength, leaping is a big advantage.

Spiderman can move around in the dark with his spider sense.

He can jump several stories straight up, but that requires him to charge up so to speak, and it's nearly impossible, even for Spidey to jump clean up a tree in the amazon, with extremely thick and close placed branches.

And jumping around, waiting till the last second to dodge a potential obstacle is a lot harder than just being able to see where you're going.

Originally posted by KingD19
Do you realize the height of most of the trees in the Amazon, and the sheer number of branches and obstacles that will keep him from just leaping straight up to the tree tops? And no problem Placidity. You really think the these obstacles are going to be able to stop his leap?

He'd break through anything in his way.

Originally posted by KingD19
He can jump several stories straight up, but that requires him to charge up so to speak, and it's nearly impossible, even for Spidey to jump clean up a tree in the amazon, with extremely thick and close placed branches.
i said he will spin around branches by grabbing them and swinging up. he wont even lose momentum with how fast and agile he would be. He can propel himself by swining or leaping way farther then any of the others

He could just climb to the top of a tree then jump.

Not that he couldn't break threw some tree branches or anything anyway

Originally posted by KingD19
He can jump several stories straight up, but that requires him to charge up so to speak, and it's nearly impossible, even for Spidey to jump clean up a tree in the amazon, with extremely thick and close placed branches.

And jumping around, waiting till the last second to dodge a potential obstacle is a lot harder than just being able to see where you're going. He doesn't need to dodge any obstacle.

beasts muscles are much bigger than spideys. spidey would wear out 1st before beast and have to take like a 10 min break every hour atleast.

Originally posted by KingD19
He can jump several stories straight up, but that requires him to charge up so to speak, and it's nearly impossible, even for Spidey to jump clean up a tree in the amazon, with extremely thick and close placed branches.

And jumping around, waiting till the last second to dodge a potential obstacle is a lot harder than just being able to see where you're going.
spidey is made to wait till the last second you realize thats what he does every day of his life. He doesnt look for things to attach webs to when webswinging, he doesnt look for obstacles when doing it either his spidey sense makes him dodge it.

Originally posted by chomperx9
beasts muscles are much bigger than spideys. spidey would wear out 1st before beast and have to take like a 10 min break every hour atleast.
Spidey can move around for atleast a day straight. He is faster and stronger then beast

Originally posted by jalek moye
stronger then beast

Originally posted by chomperx9
beasts muscles are much bigger than spideys. spidey would wear out 1st before beast and have to take like a 10 min break every hour atleast. That doesn't even make sense.

Triathletes have smaller muscles than body builders, you think they have less stamina?

Spiderman has superhuman stamina anyway.

Originally posted by chomperx9

he is way stronger then beast

Originally posted by Mindset
That doesn't even make sense.

Triathletes have smaller muscles than body builders, you think they have less stamina?

Spiderman has superhuman stamina anyway. it depends on the situation wear muscle makes a difference. holding your own body weight swinging from one tree to another across a rain forest would take some muscle and skill on how to get around.

Originally posted by jalek moye
he is way stronger then beast so your telling me that if spidey and beast where in an armwrestling match spidey would win ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
so your telling me that if spidey and beast where in an armwrestling match spidey would win ?
yes and really easily

Originally posted by chomperx9
it depends on the situation wear muscle makes a difference. holding your own body weight swinging from one tree to another across a rain forest would take some muscle and skill on how to get around. Ok, and that still doesn't mean bigger muscles = more stamina

At the current time, both Spidey and Beast are class 10.

Originally posted by KingD19
At the current time, both Spidey and Beast are class 10.
when did beast go to class 10?

Where do you get Beast is Class 10?

wasn't he like class 2-5 just a few years back

He's been class 10 ever since he turned into the blue monkey, and he stayed that way after he turned into the blue cat. Spider-Man is now class 10 since the Mephisto thing.

Originally posted by Mindset
Where do you get Beast is Class 10?

Originally posted by KingD19
He's been class 10 ever since he turned into the blue monkey, and he stayed that way after he turned into the blue cat. Spider-Man is now class 10 since the Mephisto thing.
umm no he wasn't class 10 when he first became the blue ape

and spidey is somewhere around 10-15

Originally posted by Mindset
Ok, and that still doesn't mean bigger muscles = more stamina i just think beast has more experience swinging around with his bear hands than spidey. spidey has experience with swinging far more than beast but thats using his webs. and reason i put no webbing is because spidey would shoot at some trees far away and get a much better distance swinging so would make it unfair towards the rest. here they can only use their bodys.

Originally posted by chomperx9
i just think beast has more experience swinging around with his bear hands than spidey. spidey has experience with swinging far more than beast but thats using his webs. and reason i put no webbing is because spidey would shoot at some trees far away and get a much better distance swinging so would make it unfair towards the rest. here they can only use their bodys.
he can swing multiple times farther then beast though

Originally posted by chomperx9
i just think beast has more experience swinging around with his bear hands than spidey. spidey has experience with swinging far more than beast but thats using his webs. and reason i put no webbing is because spidey would shoot at some trees far away and get a much better distance swinging so would make it unfair towards the rest. here they can only use their bodys. And what does this post have to do with bigger muscles = more stamina?

Spiderman is also faster than Beast

I was going to say Spidey but then you said no webs so I'm going with Beast

Originally posted by Mindset
And what does this post have to do with bigger muscles = more stamina?

Spiderman is also faster than Beast so your saying muscles dont matter in an event like this holding your own body weight over and over with your bear hands ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
so your saying muscles dont matter in an event like this holding your own body weight over and over with your bear hands ?
no because regardless of muscle size, spidey has done things with his smaller muscles that beast couldnt even dream of doing.

Originally posted by chomperx9
so your saying muscles dont matter in an event like this holding your own body weight over and over with your bear hands ? No, I'm saying the thing I expected you to read, hence the reason I wrote it and posted it.

Having bigger muscles doesn't mean you have more stamina.

also bigger muscles doesnt mean stronger in comics.

Not at first of course, but he has stabilized at Class 10. And Spiderman is now Class 10, the same as his original levels when he 1st became Spider-Man.

1st transformation: Class 10
Over the years: Class 15
After his rebirth and fight with Morlun: Class 20
After Mephisto's deal: Class to.

Originally posted by KingD19
Not at first of course, but he has stabilized at Class 10. And Spiderman is now Class 10, the same as his original levels when he 1st became Spider-Man.

1st transformation: Class 10
Over the years: Class 15
After his rebirth and fight with Morlun: Class 20
After Mephisto's deal: Class to.
he all know that spider is around class 10, but i'm saying thats its porbbly a little higher since classic has done stuff between 10 and 15.

But what evidence do you have for class 10 beast

Spiderman has been 10-15 most of his career.


Also, where did you get Beast was class 10?


Screw you jalek uhuh

Originally posted by Mindset
No, I'm saying the thing I expected you to read, hence the reason I wrote it and posted it.

Having bigger muscles doesn't mean you have more stamina. true just cause someone doesnt have big muscles doesnt mean they wear out easily. but for the 3rd time when it comes to holding your own body weight swinging with your bear hands over and over i think muscle makes a difference here

Originally posted by chomperx9
true just cause someone doesnt have big muscles doesnt mean they wear out easily. but for the 3rd time when it comes to holding your own body weight swinging with your bear hands over and over i think muscle makes a difference here
not when the person is both lighter and stronger.

i'm just too fast mindset

Originally posted by chomperx9
true just cause someone doesnt have big muscles doesnt mean they wear out easily. but for the 3rd time when it comes to holding your own body weight swinging with your bear hands over and over i think muscle makes a difference here No

Originally posted by Mindset
No yes. 1st beast
2nd spidey
3rd kurt
4th otto
5th catwoman

Excuse me for not taking you serious, but you think bigger muscles = more stamina

Not that that has anything to do with this thread since Spiderman has superhuman stamina and strength equal or greater than Beast's.

Originally posted by Mindset

Not that that has anything to do with this thread since Spiderman has superhuman stamina and strength equal or greater than Beast's.
untill we see proof its greater

Originally posted by chomperx9
yes. 1st beast
2nd spidey
3rd kurt
4th otto
5th catwoman
explain right now what makes beast win this

Originally posted by Mindset
Excuse me for not taking you serious, but you think bigger muscles = more stamina

Not that that has anything to do with this thread since Spiderman has superhuman stamina and strength equal or greater than Beast's. i never said that i just think muscle makes a difference in an event like this

Originally posted by jalek moye
explain right now what makes beast win this beast has more experience using his own body swinging around. spidey is better at swinging when using his webs of course but not webbing in this thread or it wouldnt be fair towards the rest.

Originally posted by chomperx9
i never said that i just think muscle makes a difference in an event like this
so you think batman can hold his body weight longer then supergirl?

Originally posted by jalek moye
so you think batman can hold his body weight longer then supergirl? hell no

Originally posted by chomperx9
beast has more experience using his own body swinging around. spidey is better at swinging when using his webs of course but not webbing in this thread or it wouldnt be fair towards the rest.
spidey has more experiance swinging while carrying things that are heavier then beast can even carry. He also can leap from one tree to a far away one.

Originally posted by chomperx9
i never said that i just think muscle makes a difference in an event like this How would muscles make a difference?

And yea, saying bigger muscles = more stamina is pretty much exactly what you said.
Originally posted by chomperx9
beasts muscles are much bigger than spideys. spidey would wear out 1st before beast

Originally posted by chomperx9
hell no
well he has more muscle mass then her

Originally posted by jalek moye
spidey has more experiance swinging while carrying things that are heavier then beast can even carry. He also can leap from one tree to a far away one. and in those positions hes swinging with his webs of course.

Originally posted by chomperx9
and in those positions hes swinging with his webs of course.
you relaize he can swing from a branch just as easily, and still end up luanching himself out of beasts sight range

Originally posted by Mindset
How would muscles make a difference?

And yea, saying bigger muscles = more stamina is pretty much exactly what you said. i never said muscles = more stamina i said muscles make a difference in this event because they are holding there own body weight.

and technically a mutant has more stamina than an animal.

There is no way Batman can hold his own weight as long as Supergirl, why? Because she has super strength, so her muscles don't matter, whereas Bats is a normal guy, that wasn't the best thing to debate with about muscle size.

Originally posted by chomperx9
i never said muscles = more stamina i said muscles make a difference in this event because they are holding there own body weight.

and technically a mutant has more stamina than an animal.
Spiderman has more stamina.

and once again batman has alot more muscle mass then supergirl, so why wouldnt it apply there

Originally posted by jalek moye
you relaize he can swing from a branch just as easily, and still end up luanching himself out of beasts sight range of course he can swing from a branch just as easy but again hes not used to using his bear hands swinging. 99.9 % of the time hes webbing. beasts uses his arms swinging 100% of the time.

Originally posted by KingD19
There is no way Batman can hold his own weight as long as Supergirl, why? Because she has super strength, so her muscles don't matter, whereas Bats is a normal guy, that wasn't the best thing to debate with about muscle size.
and spiderman is stronger then beast.

you still havnt shown anything to say beast is 10 tons. he deffintly doesnt have the feats to show it. so atleast show a bio

Originally posted by chomperx9
i never said muscles = more stamina i said muscles make a difference in this event because they are holding there own body weight. How would they make a difference when from their feats Spiderman is stronger than Beast?

And yes you did say bigger muscles = more stamina, but I'll drop it since you seem to have partial amnesia.

I don't even know where you're going with this.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Spiderman has more stamina.

and once again batman has alot more muscle mass then supergirl, so why wouldnt it apply there batman is a human being. supergirl has super strength of course she would whip bats holding weight

Originally posted by KingD19
There is no way Batman can hold his own weight as long as Supergirl, why? Because she has super strength, so her muscles don't matter, whereas Bats is a normal guy, that wasn't the best thing to debate with about muscle size. You mean like how Spiderman has smaller muscles but is stronger than Beast? (Going by feats)

Originally posted by chomperx9
batman is a human being. supergirl has super strength of course she would whip bats holding strength.
and anything beast can lift, spidey can with one hand so still muscle size means nothing.

I still havnt seen even a bio for beasts strength. His feats say hes around class 5

Originally posted by Mindset
How would they make a difference when from their feats Spiderman is stronger than Beast?

And yes you did say bigger muscles = more stamina, but I'll drop it since you seem to have partial amnesia.

I don't even know where you're going with this. i said muscles make a difference in this event. please find for me where i said muscles= more stamina

Most people probably won't take this as fact, but this is as good a bio as any in my opinon, actually better than most. Here's his 616 bio from marvel database, which is basically a marvel wiki

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Henry_McCoy_(Earth-616)#Powers_and_Abilities

Originally posted by chomperx9
i said muscles make a difference in this event. please find for me where i said muscles= more stamina I already showed where you said that, I even quoted it again to point it out to you.

You still haven't shown how Beast wins if according to you muscles make the difference, and Spiderman has shown superior strength and stamina to Beast.

Originally posted by KingD19
Most people probably won't take this as fact, but this is as good a bio as any in my opinon, actually better than most. Here's his 616 bio from marvel database, which is basically a marvel wiki

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Henry_McCoy_(Earth-616)#Powers_and_Abilities
thats funny. you could have atleast shown a canon bio. The marvel site doesnt say, have you atleast read it in a handbook?

Originally posted by Mindset
I already showed where you said that, I even quoted it again to point it out to you.

You still haven't shown how Beast wins if according to you muscles make the difference, and Spiderman has shown superior strength and stamina to Beast. FOR THE LAST TIME BEAST HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH SWINGING USING HIS BODY. SPIDEY HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH SWINGING WHEN HES WEBBING BUT THERE IS NO WEBBING ALLOWED IN THIS RACE OR IT WOULD BE UNFAIR. SI HABLAMOS INGLES ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
FOR THE LAST TIME BEAST HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH SWINGING USING HIS BODY. SPIDEY HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH SWINGING WHEN HES WEBBING BUT THERE IS NO WEBBING ALLOWED IN THIS RACE OR IT WOULD BE UNFAIR. SI HABLAMOS INGLES ? So you abandon the stance that muscles make the difference when you realize Spiderman is stronger?
Do you understand that you change your argument of why Beast wins every other post?

I have indeed read it in several handbooks, I just couldn't find any scans on the web, and I didn't use Marvel.com, because they don't show details, they just say someone has strength, and their ratings are bogus.

Originally posted by chomperx9
FOR THE LAST TIME BEAST HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH SWINGING USING HIS BODY. SPIDEY HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH SWINGING WHEN HES WEBBING BUT THERE IS NO WEBBING ALLOWED IN THIS RACE OR IT WOULD BE UNFAIR. SI HABLAMOS INGLES ?
But spidey is stronger, faster. And can leap far beyond beast can get to.

Originally posted by KingD19
I have indeed read it in several handbooks, I just couldn't find any scans on the web, and I didn't use Marvel.com, because they don't show details, they just say someone has strength, and their ratings are bogus.
well for now i'll settle that he is somewhere between 5-10 tons. if you get a scan of one show it and me and most likly mindset will change our arguments slightly.

Originally posted by Mindset
So you abandon the stance that muscles make the difference when you realize Spiderman is stronger?
Do you understand that you change your argument of why Beast wins every other post? i thought beast was slightly a bit stronger than spidey so i thought that would help him out swinging with his bear hands. and you asked me how does hank win and i explained. each time you change the question

experiance means nothing when you're opponet is just plain more effeicent then you

I will look for them, but I'm not expecting to find any.

Originally posted by KingD19
I will look for them, but I'm not expecting to find any.
next time i go to a comic shop i'll check a recent one and scan it. which should be the next couple of days

Originally posted by chomperx9
i thought beast was slightly a bit stronger than spidey so i thought that would help him out swinging with his bear hands. and you asked me how does hank win and i explained. each time you change the question I've never asked you how Beast wins.

All my questions were pertaining to how Beast's bigger muscles would give him the edge in stamina.

Each time I did not change my question.

Anyway, Spiderman is stronger, faster, and has more stamina according to their feats.

Let me know what you find, and Spiderman, even when starting out, has more strength feats than Beast, which is why I'm saying he's stronger than him.

Originally posted by Mindset
I've never asked you how Beast wins.

All my questions were pertaining to how Beast's bigger muscles would give him the edge in stamina.

Each time I did not change my question.

Anyway, Spiderman is stronger, faster, and has more stamina according to their feats. beast is also more intelligent than parker he would find a path that isnt so challenging to swing through. and no i didnt say parker is any dummy its jut that hank is better at solving and coming to solutions with things than parker.

Originally posted by chomperx9
beast is also more intelligent than parker he would find a path that isnt so challenging to swing through. and no i didnt say parker is any dummy its jut that hank is better at solving and coming to solutions with things than parker. Beast intellect would make a negligible difference in this situation.

Originally posted by Mindset
Beast intellect would make a negligible difference in this situation. but spideys yes right ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
beast is also more intelligent than parker he would find a path that isnt so challenging to swing through. and no i didnt say parker is any dummy its jut that hank is better at solving and coming to solutions with things than parker.
parker doesnt need to find and easy way, he can move through a challenging way with his eyes closed, spider sense will mnake sure he never hits a branch and always swing over or around it.

Originally posted by jalek moye
parker doesnt need to find and easy way, he can move through a challenging way with his eyes closed, spider sense will mnake sure he never hits a branch and always swing over or around it. i thought his spidey senses only let him know when there's trouble near by and coming at him. if there's an anaconda hunting spidey from behind in the rain forest yeah his spidey senses will let him know.

cause I've seen spidey crash into buildings and cars and stuff before and his spidey senses didn't help him out there.

Originally posted by chomperx9
i thought his spidey senses only let him know when there's trouble near by and coming at him. if there's an anaconda hunting spidey from behind in the rain forest yeah his spidey senses will let him know.

cause I've seen spidey crash into buildings and cars and stuff before and his spidey senses didn't help him out there.

He's actually used his spider senses to warn him if anyone was looking before he took off his mask, or entered his apartment, so his senses are more versatile than just warning him when an attack is coming.

Plus, he'd have a slight edge here, now that I consider it, because he'd be warned ahead of time as to whether a branch he was about to grab would support him, or not. This is an edge that none of the other opponents have.

THey might not be able to tell if it can hold them, but Beast and Nightcrawler are more than capable of quickly getting to another branch before they one they are one gives out.

Originally posted by KingD19
THey might not be able to tell if it can hold them, but Beast and Nightcrawler are more than capable of quickly getting to another branch before they one they are one gives out. Nightcrawler is the lightest. he shouldnt have any problems breaking branches and stuff

True, but even if you only weigh 80 lbs, if you get on a branch that's rotten or filled with termites, it's gonna break.

Spiderman would win this. i don't see why can't he. superhuman strength, speed, agility, stamina, and a never give up attitude would guarantee him the W.

Originally posted by chomperx9
but spideys yes right ? Try posting that again, this time in English.

Originally posted by Serious Impact
He's actually used his spider senses to warn him if anyone was looking before he took off his mask, or entered his apartment, so his senses are more versatile than just warning him when an attack is coming.

Plus, he'd have a slight edge here, now that I consider it, because he'd be warned ahead of time as to whether a branch he was about to grab would support him, or not. This is an edge that none of the other opponents have.
he normally only crashes when inuured already or when his ignoring it. his spider sense tells him his surrounding when needed. It tells him where to shoot a web so he doesnt fall.

Originally posted by chomperx9
i thought his spidey senses only let him know when there's trouble near by and coming at him. if there's an anaconda hunting spidey from behind in the rain forest yeah his spidey senses will let him know.

cause I've seen spidey crash into buildings and cars and stuff before and his spidey senses didn't help him out there.

This happens when someone he is already fighting grabs his webline or something and slings him into a wall or something. In the latest MS. Marvel annual she grabbed his web and threw him into a building. He was warned, but what you gonna do when you are getting thrown through the air

Originally posted by Mindset
Try posting that again, this time in English. that was in english someone just doesnt understand it

Originally posted by Mindset
Beast intellect would make a negligible difference in this situation.
Originally posted by chomperx9
but spideys yes right ? I don't think anyone literate would understand this.

What are you trying to say to me?

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't think anyone literate would understand this.

What are you trying to say to me? ok i will explain. you said beast intellect wouldnt make a difference at a time like this and i think your a spidey fanboy thats why i said. but spidey yes right ? i wanted to see your response back as if spideys intellect would make a difference. get it now ?

So you meant, but Spidey's can, right?

What you said didn't make sense, sport.

You don't seem to know anything about Spiderman, me correcting you does not make me a fanboy, it just means I know more than you do.

Nice attempt at the straw man argument though.

Originally posted by chomperx9
ok i will explain. you said beast intellect wouldnt make a difference at a time like this and i think your a spidey fanboy thats why i said. but spidey yes right ? i wanted to see your response back as if spideys intellect would make a difference. get it now ?
tell me how beast being smarter help him in this situation.

jalek stop being a Spiderman fanboy


geez

O you know me

Originally posted by Mindset
So you meant, but Spidey's can, right?

What you said didn't make sense, sport.

You don't seem to know anything about Spiderman, me correcting you does not make me a fanboy, it just means I know more than you do.

Nice attempt at the straw man argument though. made perfect since someone just doesnt understand it. but i forgive you we dont always understand things 100% of the time thats normal for everyone. and i know plenty about spider man i just give honest opinions about characters of who can beat who. i hate superman more than any other character but if someone makes a superman vs the riddler thread of course im not gonna say the riddler is gonna win.

Originally posted by jalek moye
tell me how beast being smarter help him in this situation. go to the page where i 1st posted it

Originally posted by chomperx9
go to the page where i 1st posted it
All i remmeber you saying is that it will help figure out good paths. but being smarter really wouldn't effect that at all. And Beast is smarter IQ wise but hes not exactly a more tactical person or better at getting out of dangerous situations

Originally posted by jalek moye
All i remmeber you saying is that it will help figure out good paths. but being smarter really wouldn't effect that at all. And Beast is smarter IQ wise but hes not exactly a more tatical person or better at getting out of dangerous situations good point

Originally posted by chomperx9
and i know plenty about spider man

Yup, you sure know you Spiderman info...

Originally posted by chomperx9
i thought his spidey senses only let him know when there's trouble near by and coming at him. if there's an anaconda hunting spidey from behind in the rain forest yeah his spidey senses will let him know.

cause I've seen spidey crash into buildings and cars and stuff before and his spidey senses didn't help him out there.

Originally posted by chomperx9
beasts muscles are much bigger than spideys. spidey would wear out 1st before beast and have to take like a 10 min break every hour atleast.

Originally posted by chomperx9
i thought beast was slightly a bit stronger than spidey so i thought that would help him out swinging with his bear hands. and you asked me how does hank win and i explained. each time you change the question

so since you ackowledged my point. now what reason do you have for beast winning?

Originally posted by jalek moye
so since you ackowledged my point. now what reason do you have for beast winning? ok you guys convinced me spidey would win since his spidey senses would help him out here as well and would know which trees would be safe to swing on. i just thought beast would win at 1st cause he has more experience using his body swinging around. spidey uses his webs 99% of the time.

NEW RACE WITH NEW COMPETITORS

pretty much the same rules as on the 1st page.

Spiderman no webbing no spidey sense. he has to use his own eyes and instincs like everyone else to make it across

Nightcrawler no teleporting
Toad
Grodd
Beast

they have to make there way 10 miles through the amazon jungle to the finish line. rules are they cant touch the ground. they have to jump or swing from one tree to the next. they can skip trees if they can. doesnt have to be one right after the other. if they can make the jump passing 3 or 4 trees at a time then its cool as long as they dont hit the ground.

feel free to add your own competitors

who wins ?