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I recently had Blue Marvel run the gauntlet and a few thought he'd stop a Gladiator.

I'd like to open this up for debate

Standard arena no BFR, who walks/flies away?

I say Blue 6/10

He's a Stable Anti-Matter reactor, a highly decorated Marine, and an Authority on Theoretical Physics.

It took an orbital dive bomb from the Sentry, while he was fighting the rest of the MA, to sit Adam down.

Marine training has nothing on Gladiator. Knowledge in physics isn't going to help him either. He lacks the feats to hang with Gladiator.

Glads, hes better in all areas besides brains.

Gladiator

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He lacks the feats to hang with Gladiator.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Glads, hes better in all areas besides brains. No, he's better in brains.

Gladiator

Kallark.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Marine training has nothing on Gladiator.

I put that there so it would be understood that he's not just strong, he's got combat experience.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Knowledge in physics isn't going to help him either.

It will if he can apply it. He's durable and bright enough to think while fighting

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He lacks the feats to hang with Gladiator.

Fair, however,

Gladiator has had 2 low showings (excluding Cannonball):

Taken to task by Nova before the upgrade.
Beaten by a Skrull posing as Storm.

Has Gladiator been unaffected by anti-matter in the past?

Gladiator is vulnerable to certain forms of radiation and his strength is subject to his confidence.

My standing is that Blue Marvel won't fall easy, and the longer the fight goes on the more likely he is to win.

After taking a pounding from the MA he still had the juice to one shot the Sentry into orbit and keep fighting.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty

After taking a pounding from the MA he still had the juice to one shot the Sentry into orbit and keep fighting.

A pounding? He took like three shots from them (which should have had no effect) when Sentry stepped in.

Originally posted by tkitna
A pounding? He took like three shots from them (which should have had no effect) when Sentry stepped in.

Ironman Sucker punched him, knocking him out of the air and into the ground, Mrs Marvel took a shot at him, Wonder Man took a shot, Ares hit him in the cheek with his Axe. Then Sentry started wailing on him.

This was while he was talking and trying to convince them his plan was the best bet instead of fighting.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Ironman Sucker punched him, knocking him out of the air and into the ground, Mrs Marvel took a shot at him, Wonder Man took a shot, Ares hit him in the cheek with his Axe. Then Sentry started wailing on him.

This was while he was talking and trying to convince them his plan was the best bet instead of fighting.

Your right. It was 4 shots.

Gladiator wins for now.

blue marvel would win

Gladiator

Originally posted by The Nuul
Glads, hes better in all areas besides brains.

what has glas done besdies speed that BM couldn't?

i am asking cause i reall don't know

what his best strength feat

Wow Blue Marvel did beat K Hype, and Anti-Man, and despite his name, he was an upper level Herald perhaps even low trans judging by his performance against Sentry.

He also nearly punched the moon in half with one hit.

He stopped an asteroid the size of Arkansas from hitting Earth.

He's nothing but high end feats.

Glads could do the same thing tbh.

Glads has speed advantage, seeing that i never saw a speed feat of BM, also in strength.





















for me its BM, Go underdog.

Blue Marvel.

Blue marvel wins this.

Originally posted by 8swords
Glads has speed advantage, seeing that i never saw a speed feat of BM, also in strength.





















for me its BM, Go underdog.

Sentry, Hyperion Prime, Anti-Man are prime examples that Adam possesses super speed, as he was able to hang with all of these speedsters, and holds a 75% percent win ration against his largest challenges. Adam is far more powerful than Wonder Man. He wins in my opinion.

Spite vs Gladiator. Blue Marvel wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
Spite vs Gladiator. Blue Marvel wins.
How is this spite?

Gladiator wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gladiator wins.

Several heavy punches a la high end herald laced with anti matter bombs for good measure., That's all he wins. Gladiator does not win this.

Originally posted by Stoic
Several heavy punches a la high end herald laced with anti matter bombs for good measure., That's all he wins. Gladiator does not win this. You're wrong. Gladiator is too highly skilled while strong enough to hurt him. Bad.

Gladiator wins this: he punched and destroyed a ****in' planet with his fists!

Originally posted by guy222
Gladiator

Gladiator has the power, experience, and skill to take a solid majority here.

Originally posted by Stoic
Sentry, Hyperion Prime, Anti-Man are prime examples that Adam possesses super speed, as he was able to hang with all of these speedsters, and holds a 75% percent win ration against his largest challenges. Adam is far more powerful than Wonder Man. He wins in my opinion.

Way to lowball Wonderman, he's clearly on Sentry's weight class too

Originally posted by Bentley
Way to lowball Wonderman, he's clearly on Sentry's weight class too

He is? Any proof? When they compared the both of them they said that Sentry had super strength while they placed Wonder Man as only having augmented strength, like Ms. Marvel. I think you're very wrong.

Blue Marvel and if you disagree youre racist

Originally posted by Bentley
Way to lowball Wonderman, he's clearly on Sentry's weight class too

What?

Originally posted by Stoic
He is? Any proof? When they compared the both of them they said that Sentry had super strength while they placed Wonder Man as only having augmented strength, like Ms. Marvel. I think you're very wrong.

According to Cap in Children's Crusade, Simon has Sentry level strength.

Cap is wrong

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
According to Cap in Children's Crusade, Simon has Sentry level strength.


Blue Marvel = Sentry when they fought >>>>> than Wonder man.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
According to Cap in Children's Crusade, Simon has Sentry level strength.


Originally posted by tkitna
Cap is wrong Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Blue Marvel = Sentry when they fought >>>>> than Wonder man.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
According to Cap in Children's Crusade, Simon has Sentry level strength. Cap needs suckered for such treason.

Take it up with the writer for making Cap state that. *shrug*

I personally take it with a grain of salt, if not a pillar.

Cap is never wrong.

This is a good fight and could go either way.

BM has the juice, potentially, to win. But he is going to have to show us more.
G ftw. For now.

How fast is BM?
I'm thinking Glads wins because of speed.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Take it up with the writer for making Cap state that. *shrug*

I personally take it with a grain of salt, if not a pillar.

He probably is strong as a mentally unstable Sentry but certainly not at a very stable Sentry or a void Sentry.

Cap is wrong since Sentry's level is based off his mental state, which was stated in comics. This is like saying that X is stronger than Hulk when Hulk can potentially exceed X if he gets strong enough.

Lastly, WWH would have crushed Simon almost as easily as he did Hercules.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap is never wrong. This

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're wrong. Gladiator is too highly skilled while strong enough to hurt him. Bad. Even though I think BM has more power, I think this is important.

G has far more experience and skill than BM.
It has to count for something.

Until BM is rewritten and shown to have beaten a big bunch of abstracts, or said to have the power of a million million collapsing black holes.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Even though I think BM has more power, I think this is important.

G has far more experience and skill than BM.
It has to count for something.

Until BM is rewritten and shown to have beaten a big bunch of abstracts, or said to have the power of a million million collapsing black holes. How does he have more power at his disposal than Gladiator ?

He doesn't.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
He doesn't. Good man.

How in the world is Simon as strong as the Sentry? He was worked easily by the Hulk's crew during WW Hulk, whereas Sentry would have taken any of them out. Cap is wrong based on what happened on panel.

Originally posted by h1a8
How fast is BM?
I'm thinking Glads wins because of speed.

Speed will not decide this fight...especially with CIS on. This fight could go either way and I'm starting to lean towards BM pulling the majority.

Originally posted by carver9
Speed will not decide this fight...especially with CIS on. This fight could go either way and I'm starting to lean towards BM pulling the majority.

Glads does use his speed at times, it's not like he's going to fight the entire match with no superspeed. BM doesn't have the feats Glads have other than hitting Sentry into space. Plus Glads has HV which can damage BM and freeze breath to slow BM down even more. Also current Glads showing against Cyke trumps anything BM has done. And we weigh current showings HIGHER than older showings since current characters are debated.

Gladiator for the majority

Originally posted by h1a8
Glads does use his speed at times, it's not like he's going to fight the entire match with no superspeed. BM doesn't have the feats Glads have other than hitting Sentry into space. Plus Glads has HV which can damage BM and freeze breath to slow BM down even more. Also current Glads showing against Cyke trumps anything BM has done. And we weigh current showings HIGHER than older showings since current characters are debated.

Never said Gladiator wouldn't use speed, what I'm telling you is, he isn't unhittable.

Lol...Blue Marvel have Antimatter blasts. Blue Marvel showings is just as good.

Wtf is this? Bizarro World?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Wtf is this? Bizarro World?

I wondered also.

Unless it's some nefarious scheme to try and get Blue Marvel rated higher.

I'd love to see Carver's tier listing. Wonder what it is this week.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd love to see Carver's tier listing. Wonder what it is this week.

Lol...please stop. People just underrate BM. Give the guy the props he deserve.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...please stop. People just underrate BM. Give the guy the props he deserve.

...And it starts.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...please stop. People just underrate BM. Give the guy the props he deserve.

He does deserve props for what he's done in limited exposure.

Still doesn't change the fact that you're always touting Gladiator as the best herald, Thor having the best feats (who currently isn't a high herald in your opinion), Hulk being the strongest, and Magneto some how being an elite high herald being.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He does deserve props for what he's done in limited exposure.

Still doesn't change the fact that you're always touting Gladiator as the best herald, Thor having the best feats (who currently isn't a high herald in your opinion), Hulk being the strongest, and Magneto some how being an elite high herald being.

I don't agree. I also never said I would give BM the majority against Glads, I said I'm undecided.

I never said Gladiator was the best Herald. I previously said THOR was the best Herald and in a debate involving Gladiator and Thor against you, I gave Thor the majority against Gladiator but recently, my opinion has changed on the matter, and Surfer is numero uno now.

I already listed Magneto fts for you and you did not dispute it. Magneto doesn't have near the low showings or beat downs Thor have had recently and Mags is depowered.

I also never said Thor wasnt high Herald. Stop trippin.

Originally posted by carver9

I also never said Thor wasnt high Herald. Stop trippin.

Big ol fat lie.