Hawkeye vs Black Canary
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King Castle
ko, kill forum rules.
1. standard
2. h2h
Omega Vision
Canary in both.
King Castle
i'll take the 1st for hawkeye
plus he is trained fighter he was trained by cap once and look at him now? imagine if he has steadily training for years like Eric he be Gamora level...
BruceSkywalker
not sure if clint can handle the canary scream
King Castle
what about canary handling his trick arrows?
Konton
Originally posted by King Castle
what about canary handling his trick arrows?
The scream would deflect/destroy/detonate any arrow in his arsenal.
chomperx9
H2H she wins for sure
King Castle
eve his asgardian magic arrows?
-Pr-
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Canary in both.
aye.
she's a consistently better fighter than clint, and i don't see his arrows getting through her scream. plus, she can dodge pretty well when she wants to...
King Castle
does hawkeye use vibranium arrows and if so would it by deflected?
-Pr-
Originally posted by King Castle
does hawkeye use vibranium arrows and if so would it by deflected?
i honestly don't remember him using them. not sure if the scream would do it; vibranium absorbs both kinetic and sonic energy?
she can still dodge, though.
Stoic
1. Hawkeye
2. Canary
the ninjak
1. Clint kills before she knows the fight even started.
2. Clint aint stupid enough to stand in front of a sonic screamer. He would run hide and kill her with range. Canary wins. H2H.
Mindset
Originally posted by -Pr-
i honestly don't remember him using them. not sure if the scream would do it; vibranium absorbs both kinetic and sonic energy?
she can still dodge, though. same thing
chomperx9
Originally posted by the ninjak
1. Clint kills before she knows the fight even started.
2. Clint aint stupid enough to stand in front of a sonic screamer. He would run hide and kill her with range. Canary wins. H2H. how the hell would he know if she is a sonic screamer or not ?
iceman24567
Common Knowledge

Q99
Canary's pretty used to archers for that matter.
I give it to Dinah in both
chomperx9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Common Knowledge

and what knowledge would he have on her without prep

iceman24567
COMMON KNOWLEDGE
chomperx9
Originally posted by iceman24567
COMMON KNOWLEDGE if he has seen her scream before then yeah its common knowlege for him to know about her powers but he does not know jack about her.
iceman24567
Go read the forum rules Jr
chomperx9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Go read the forum rules Jr what does that have to do with the forum rules homie
iceman24567
Everything

chomperx9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Everything

uh hu
Q99
Forum rules is that combatants are given what information is common knowledge about the other.
So in Canary's case, it'd be "JLA/JSA member, martial artist, has the Canary cry." Hawkeye, "Avenger, former crook, archer, uses trick arrows," that kind of thing.
rotiart
1. Black canary. Her scream trumps his arrows.
2. Hawkeye. It's hand to hand... Not sure why people are bringing up the scream for this... But as ronin and then in his appearances with mockingbird he seemed impressive enough to me to get a slight majority... Clint remember is nothing but skill... He has no super stats.. Essentially he's similar to. Nightwing or batman more so than cap america
Konton
Canary has been nothing for skill for quite a long while.
From the start of Birds of Prey she has lost her Canary Cry completely and operated in the field with nothing by a com-link to Oracle and her h2h abilities.
After her time with Shiva and Shiva's old teacher she was doing things that scared Green Arrow. OH, and she also took down a local armed force all by herself. They had tanks.
Prep-Man
Originally posted by Konton
Canary has been nothing for skill for quite a long while.
From the start of Birds of Prey she has lost her Canary Cry completely and operated in the field with nothing by a com-link to Oracle and her h2h abilities.
After her time with Shiva and Shiva's old teacher she was doing things that scared Green Arrow. OH, and she also took down a local armed force all by herself. They had tanks.
She also took it to White Canary, who is supposed to be better than Shiva.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Q99
Forum rules is that combatants are given what information is common knowledge about the other.
So in Canary's case, it'd be "JLA/JSA member, martial artist, has the Canary cry." Hawkeye, "Avenger, former crook, archer, uses trick arrows," that kind of thing.
Pretty much yeah.
Bentley
Clint sents a fricking vibranium arrow through her skull which absorbs her scream and explode in her face thanks to it, I mean, Clint worked with Songbird for how long? Two years? Yeah, he's prepped against sound.
BC murders him on h2h, Hawkeye suckz at fighting alone.
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Bentley
BC murders him on h2h, Hawkeye suckz at fighting alone.
He was having a time of his life owning ninjas left and right while Logan, the not-so-amazing bugboy and Luke Cage were getting anally raped and crying for their mothers

OneDumbG0
^

Originally posted by Bentley
I mean, Clint worked with Songbird for how long? Two years? Yeah, he's prepped against sound. Well, any Hawkeye or Thunderbolts experts know if Hawkeye's got arrows that worked against Songbird? I imagine they've thrown down as often as they've sucked face.
Also, the same could be said of Dinah and Ollie.
iceman24567
Originally posted by chomperx9
uh hu Do you ever contribute to threads?

chomperx9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Do you ever contribute to threads?

had to wait 12 hours to bump that i see.
iceman24567
Originally posted by chomperx9
had to wait 12 hours to bump that i see. Still haven't read the forum rules i see child
chomperx9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Still haven't read the forum rules i see child still cant accept when your stuck in a question and cannot answer i see homie
iceman24567
Originally posted by chomperx9
still cant accept when your stuck in a question and cannot answer i see homie Another fail response from a spammer

chomperx9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Another fail response from a spammer

and another successful attempt to troll.

iceman24567
Originally posted by chomperx9
how the hell would he know if she is a sonic screamer or not ?
Originally posted by iceman24567
Common Knowledge
Originally posted by chomperx9
and what knowledge would he have on her without prep
Originally posted by iceman24567
COMMON KNOWLEDGE
Originally posted by chomperx9
if he has seen her scream before then yeah its common knowlege for him to know about her powers but he does not know jack about her.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Go read the forum rules Jr
Originally posted by chomperx9
what does that have to do with the forum rules homie
Originally posted by iceman24567
Everything
Originally posted by chomperx9
uh hu
Originally posted by Q99
Forum rules is that combatants are given what information is common knowledge about the other.
So in Canary's case, it'd be "JLA/JSA member, martial artist, has the Canary cry." Hawkeye, "Avenger, former crook, archer, uses trick arrows," that kind of thing.
Says the spammer that doesn't know the rules and still doesn't read them after being advised to do so

chomperx9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Says the spammer that doesn't know the rules and still doesn't read them after being advised to do so

I read them already and your response when you get stuck in a question is a smiley face or you walk away from the question.
still have not told me how its common knowledge for Hawkeye to know that Black Canary is a sonic screamer.
sure its common knowledge for her to know that Hawkeye is an archer with the bow he carries around and arrows on his back.
iceman24567
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
lol
The Nuul
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
lol
And facepalm
Q99
Originally posted by chomperx9
I read them already and your response when you get stuck in a question is a smiley face or you walk away from the question.
still have not told me how its common knowledge for Hawkeye to know that Black Canary is a sonic screamer.
sure its common knowledge for her to know that Hawkeye is an archer with the bow he carries around and arrows on his back.
Because they are given the common knowledge about each other before the fight.
Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not.
-Rules thread
Seeing a bow isn't common knowledge, it's observation. Common knowledge is Canary gets told he's an Avenger, famous non-powered hero, etc..
iceman24567
Originally posted by Q99
Because they are given the common knowledge about each other before the fight.
Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not.
-Rules thread
Seeing a bow isn't common knowledge, it's observation. Common knowledge is Canary gets told he's an Avenger, famous non-powered hero, etc.. If he read the rules you wouldn't have to explain them to him TWICE granted he just likes spamming up good threads
King Castle
everyone stop spamming my thread!!!jr_shakefist
lets focus on the battle at hand.
The Nuul
1. Prob client.
2. BC stomps him.
King Castle
i can agree with that
iceman24567
Yeah i give Clint the edge in a straight up fight
h2h Dinah 7/10
chomperx9
in a straight fight they both have a shot. it all depends on who makes the 1st move.
H2H clint is owned
Bentley
I would say Hawkeye deserves a respect thread but he surely would be lowballed in the Vsforum even if he didn't necesarily suck balls.
Sr J-Bieb
Hawkeye throws a car at her.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Hawkeye throws a car at her.
You're clearly forgetting Canary's global level TP
Badabing
If people have read the rules, and understand the rules then unnecessary questions can be avoided.
King Castle
we could avoid all this if some one was made a mod.
has hawkeye ever gone giant in hawkeye costume?
Mindset
Originally posted by King Castle
we could avoid all this if some one was made a mod.
has hawkeye ever gone giant in hawkeye costume? wtf?
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Mindset
wtf?
My reaction to 80% of his posts.
Q99
That's probably a reference to Clint's time as Goliath using Pym particles.
Though he'd be easy prey for the scream at that size, I think he's better off with the bow.
King Castle
Originally posted by Q99
That's probably a reference to Clint's time as Goliath using Pym particles.
Though he'd be easy prey for the scream at that size, I think he's better off with the bow. wouldnt he be pretty resistant?
the shock alone would be enough to exploit canary

Q99
Originally posted by King Castle
wouldnt he be pretty resistant?
the shock alone would be enough to exploit canary
A Pym-style grower? Nah, her scream's plenty powerful to handle that. She did once scream in Giganta's ear and KO her that way.
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