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Tyrant defeated 4 or 5 herald level beings with little trouble. If you had a choice to have 5 below skyfather level people face Tyrant who would you pick? Mine would be 8th Day Juggernaut, Thanos, WOL Morg, Red Hulk & Thor'w power gem

Any team below skyfather level fails.

Hmmm...

Depends on ones opinion of certain characters. Where would you rank Watchers?

Some people feel they are Low Skyfathers; some feel they are High Trans...

Assuming they are High Trans, I could see 5 Watchers combining to defeat DP Tyrant...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Hmmm...

Depends on ones opinion of certain characters. Where would you rank Watchers?

Some people feel they are Low Skyfathers; some feel they are High Trans...

Assuming they are High Trans, I could see 5 Watchers combining to defeat DP Tyrant...

IMO I think a single watcher could beat him like classic Uatu. He would shit all over DP tyrant.

Yeah Watchers imo are above skyfather level around In-betweener and or Stranger level

Originally posted by golem370
Yeah Watchers imo are above skyfather level around In-betweener and or Stranger level

yep but wait for the people who say "Watchers got Knocked the **** out by RULK DURRR!!!"

I feel like they are skyfather level in power but due to their passivity and vow of non-interference they are sometimes displayed less than what they are.

Well back to the thread,

I would take Amazo (assuming he doesn't get haxored) the one the almost destroyed the JL, Starro, Ghost Rider Unleashed, Zoom, X-Man.

Onslaught, HP Doomsday, Golden Age Captain Marvel, Silver Age Superman, Classic Juggernaut

Or it was a bullshite stunt by Hulk writers. Uatu said he has witnessed the birth of stars or maybe that was Aron but if thats not hurting a watcher neither is the hulk.

What are Uatu feats that some are placing him ABOVE skyfather.. shoot I wanna know the feats that place him in the skyfather category lol

Shouldn't this be: pick five heralds?

IMO, Thanos is a skyfather character (less powerful that the top of the food chain, but still) but in most minds, he isn't.

So I'll have him here.

My line-up would be this:

Thanos (current version is a monster!)

Lord Marvel (manhandled one of the greatest herald lvler in Silver Surfer)

Afro Magus (would be also a skyfather, but hasn't be talked about it)

Hulk (current version, if it wasn't of his lack of versatility, would be aguarbly the most powerful herald leveler. I still place him behind Surfer, Thor, Hal Jordan and Sups because he can be bfr'd and shit, but here, planty of dudes will be able to take him back, and his sluggish abilities would be a must)

Classic Juggernaut


IMO, Afro Magus and Thanos are quite enough, but the other three provide nice back-up. Thanos held his own in the past, and Afro Magus, well, he was a BEAST.

This team can put down DP Tyrant.

*Lord Mar-Vell
*Sentry/Voidtry
*Afro-Magus
*Nate Grey

Team is captained by Thanos the Mad Titan.

Huge amounts of sorcery, brute strength and power, and intelligence going at DP Tyrant. The heralds without Thanos had none of those things going for them.

Classic Dr. Strange, FP Onslaught, FP Legion, Juggernaut, Runner

Originally posted by shokosugi
Classic Dr. Strange, FP Onslaught, FP Legion, Juggernaut, Runner

Classic Strange will have to use BFR tactic.

FP Onslaught I would consider above herald level. I doubt Runner or Juggs would be effective.

I just don't see any 5 herald lvlers taking it... shoot I don't even think 5 trans could really cut it.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
IMO I think a single watcher could beat him like classic Uatu. He would shit all over DP tyrant.

Nah.

What feats do any Watcher have? Uatu allegedly held a small universe in his hand but how does he fare in battle?

Another thing.
Why is everyone using Magus? Magus>Thanos and Thanos would be considered low level Skyfather.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=472567&highlight=watcher+forumid%3A98

Check that out, not all of the feats are his but he has a fair share.

He was truly skyfather level back in the day.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Classic Strange will have to use BFR tactic.

FP Onslaught I would consider above herald level. I doubt Runner or Juggs would be effective.

and legion?

Originally posted by shokosugi
and legion?

Not much help IMO.
Excellent power source for his ship though.

Hulk
Gladiator
Skaar
Wendigo
BI Beast

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I just don't see any 5 herald lvlers taking it... shoot I don't even think 5 trans could really cut it.

You dont think 5 Watchers (I honestly consider them high Trans) could take a few wins against him?

Originally posted by Lord Feron
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=472567&highlight=watcher+forumid%3A98

Check that out, not all of the feats are his but he has a fair share.

He was truly skyfather level back in the day.

Yeah I checked it. That's skyfather level type stuff. Uatu battled an alternate Galactus.

He also killed aron

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I just don't see any 5 herald lvlers taking it... shoot I don't even think 5 trans could really cut it.



Do people even realize, the only reason Tyrant's various opponents weren't insta-killed was because he keeps his prey alive to drain them of power? Even "DP" Tyrant drew power from both the biosphere of every planet........................IN THE UNIVERSE and the energy orbs containing power from opponents he drained. WTH would 5 high heralds or even 5 trans tiers do against that? Unless he's jobbing or the writer is an idiot.

One thing when tyrant was fighting those guys Morg and Terrax wasn't even attacking tyrant they were each other. He was feeding off there power but when Thanos fought him he didn't kill him with easy why was that?

Originally posted by golem370
One thing when tyrant was fighting those guys Morg and Terrax wasn't even attacking tyrant they were each other. He was feeding off there power but when Thanos fought him he didn't kill him with easy why was that?

Did you read the issue? As soon as Tyrant put his foot down and was about to get serious with Thanos, he tped away!

Morg and Terrax are NOTHING before Tyrant, so them attacking each other or him makes no difference at all. Tyrant punked then almost killed Morg's MASTER.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
This team can put down DP Tyrant.

*Lord Mar-Vell
*Sentry/Voidtry
*Afro-Magus
*Nate Grey

Team is captained by Thanos the Mad Titan.

Huge amounts of sorcery, brute strength and power, and intelligence going at DP Tyrant. The heralds without Thanos had none of those things going for them.

Your line-up looks a lot like mine!
Your's is better, thaught.

Someone named Runner. I would take your line-up, and replace Nate Grey by Runner, I think.

But still, I think that Afro-Magus and Thanos are only what needed.

I don't think Thanos was worried he even said he knew he could take what Depowered Tyrant gave out. The group also really didn't work as a team.

Originally posted by golem370
I don't think Thanos was worried he even said he knew he could take what Depowered Tyrant gave out. The group also really didn't work as a team.

I'd post the scan, but I can already see it'd be pointless. Prattle on.

Good because I have seen them.

Originally posted by golem370
Good because I have seen them.

Seeing and UNDERSTANDING what you are seeing are two different things.

Originally posted by zopzop
Seeing and UNDERSTANDING what you are seeing are two different things.


Why didn't you just call him an idiot and cut to the chase lol.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Your line-up looks a lot like mine!
Your's is better, thaught.

Someone named Runner. I would take your line-up, and replace Nate Grey by Runner, I think.

But still, I think that Afro-Magus and Thanos are only what needed.

yeah runner is a good choice. nate grey i chose only because tyrant hasn't displayed any tp skill/resistance (or lack thereof, still, it's an unknown)

I know how powerful Depowered Tyrant was but also if he had feed off the biosphere why bother in feeding off people that were no threat besides getting big Gs attenion?

Thanos said he wasn't the most powerful of the two, but he got what he wanted at the end, so, he wins.

But Thanos is more powerful today, and his power was well displayed when he was about to single handly crush Lord Marvell, a being himself displayed as a Badass, with a capital "B" please.

I still think that Thanos would lose, but the margin would be lesser.
Add Afro Magus, the Magus version of the early 90's, where he fought and win agasint Thanos, and you got yourself a duo that would beat Tyrant.

How about Thor'w Destroyer Overmind 8th Day Juggernaut & Thanos.

Originally posted by golem370
How about Thor'w Destroyer Overmind 8th Day Juggernaut & Thanos.

I hate Juggernaut and Thor, **** 'em!
Magus way cooler!

Originally posted by Sundipped
Not much help IMO.
Excellent power source for his ship though.

are you nutz? Legion can solo DP tyrant!

Originally posted by golem370
I know how powerful Depowered Tyrant was but also if he had feed off the biosphere why bother in feeding off people that were no threat besides getting big Gs attenion?

Because he craves power? He was draining energy from beings that had the Power Cosmic (like Surfer, Morg, Terrax), from cyborgs (like Beta Ray Bill) and from weapons, even magic ones (Ganymede's staff and Stormbreaker). A fully fed, full power Galactus was in fear of him. No way in hell 5 of anything less than Skyfather are taking him down.

Originally posted by shokosugi
are you nutz? Legion can solo DP tyrant!

Originally posted by shokosugi
are you nutz? Legion can solo DP tyrant!

Based on what? Legion is not soloing anyone able to compete with Galactus.

Amadeus Cho, Mr. Majestic, Brainiac 5, Johnny Sorrow, Hal Jordan

Originally posted by golem370
Tyrant defeated 4 or 5 herald level beings with little trouble. If you had a choice to have 5 below skyfather level people face Tyrant who would you pick? Mine would be 8th Day Juggernaut, Thanos, WOL Morg, Red Hulk & Thor'w power gem

HP DD, Flash, Zoom, Terrax Sentry, WW (full gear).

If HP DD, Flash, and Zoom are Skyfather level or above then insert

Classic Juggernaut, Superman, and Surfer (to amp Superman) instead.

This team will annihilate Tryant 10/10

Gideon, Dr. Strange, Loki, Thanos, Beta Rae Bill

Thanos although by suprise drop Galactus with one shot. If he can do that to a well feed Galactus then Thanos could have done it to depowered tyrant.

Originally posted by golem370
Thanos although by suprise drop Galactus with one shot. If he can do that to a well feed Galactus then Thanos could have done it to depowered tyrant.

Man. Very next panel, Galactus call his robots to attack Thanos. And two panels later, you've got Thanos, on his knees, begging for Mercy.

He still was able to drop him even if for a few seconds.

Zoom and Zoom's 4 Cheerleaders. awesome

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Zoom and Zoom's 4 Cheerleaders. awesome You just mad coz Zoom would be stylin on Darkseid.

Only Rulk is needed.

Originally posted by Bentley
Only Rulk is needed.

Not if Batman gets there first.

How about you choose 5 of the 6 infinity Gem bearers and get them to combine the 5? (which makes the 6th appear by itself if I remember correctly)

Loki, Flash + Captain America

Loki give Flash Absorbing Man powers, Flash absorbs Cap's shield and blitzes the shit out of Tyrant.

Lawbringer Qtzr
Supernova
Voidtry
Annihilus
Lord Mar-vell

Originally posted by dmills
Lawbringer Qtzr
Supernova
Voidtry
Annihilus
Lord Mar-vell

Powerful team.

Originally posted by carver9
Powerful team.




http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/bristol92410_03.gif

Alan Scott as Sentinel
WM Thor
Cyborg Superman w/ rings
Sersi
Per Degaton

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I admitted that Zoom beats Darkseid based on their relative on panel showings. You could still be mad though.

j/k. Who are the cheerleaders btw?

bump

No team below sky father level is doing anything to tyrant...hell he is even above skyfather level

OF Thor
Zoom
OWAW Superman
Death Sentry
The Mask

Superman, Flash, zoom, Surfer is enough.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman, Flash, zoom, Surfer is enough.

Nope they would get curb'd... curb'd HARD

Originally posted by golem370
Tyrant defeated 4 or 5 herald level beings with little trouble. If you had a choice to have 5 below skyfather level people face Tyrant who would you pick? Mine would be 8th Day Juggernaut, Thanos, WOL Morg, Red Hulk & Thor'w power gem

Tyrant did not defeat them with little trouble.

I'd reread the fight and try to understand the context

Any team of 5 trans characters would destroy tyrant.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Tyrant did not defeat them with little trouble.

I'd reread the fight and try to understand the context

Any team of 5 trans characters would destroy tyrant.

Very little trouble

You should

Not really, but it's better than 5 heralds that's for sure

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nope they would get curb'd... curb'd HARD how, they are too fast for tyrant. Zoom imps him and it is over. Surfer amps Superman and it is over. wally imps him and it is over.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Very little trouble

You should

Not really, but it's better than 5 heralds that's for sure

Let's battlezone it up.

Tyrant vs any of my 5 trans.

We'll see how well you do

Shit, I don't need 5. I can do it with 1 or 2.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Very little trouble

You should

Not really, but it's better than 5 heralds that's for sure dp tyrant is a trans character. Unless skyfather is just 3 times above high herald.
I would say a trans is double a high herald and a a skyfather is twice a trans (4 times a high herald).

Originally posted by krisblaze
Let's battlezone it up.

Tyrant vs any of my 5 trans.

We'll see how well you do

Shit, I don't need 5. I can do it with 1 or 2.

LOL You're funny. I never said Tyrant would or wouldn't beat a team of 5 Trans. What I said was, the certainty you believed they would stop him I don't share. ! trans vs. Tyrant... LMAO, NOT. Are you trying to make me laugh Kris? if so you did and mission accomplished. Let me know

Originally posted by h1a8
dp tyrant is a trans character. Unless skyfather is just 3 times above high herald.
I would say a trans is double a high herald and a a skyfather is twice a trans (4 times a high herald).

It's your lack of common sense and logic and greatly affects your judgment. You think speed is the be all end up of vs. matches. You fail to realize that often times it's not. Think about it, does Zoom beat Galactus or Eternity because he's fast? According to you... Speed is everything and Zoom is shown to be faster than them via feats and grossly faster. Yet, you'd have to be stupid to think he can actually win. Once you start moving up the tiers, speed because far far less important. Do you see Eternity battling infinity and blitzing each other? Of course not. That is so far beneath them it's ridiculous to even try and imagine it. That is what you fail to realize here. Speed means very little when you're completely outclassed in virtually very area. Thanos has no issue dealing with speed. We've seen this on a number of occasions. He deals with it just fine. He's so smart... so tactical.. so versatile he finds a way. It's that simple. Superman gets curb'd with utter ease by Thanos.

1.Superboy Prime
2.The Plutonian
3.Death Sentry
4.Thanos
5.Amazo

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
1.Superboy Prime
2.The Plutonian
3.Death Sentry
4.Thanos
5.Amazo
No.

He'd just control Amazo and use him to beat the other 4 to death while he watched.

Superboy Prime
Monarch
Dr. Fate (Nabu manifested)
The Shade (One with the darklands)
Mordru

This team absolutely stomps Tyrant.

Originally posted by zopzop
No.

He'd just control Amazo and use him to beat the other 4 to death while he watched.

LIES!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
LIES!
naughty

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's your lack of common sense and logic and greatly affects your judgment. You think speed is the be all end up of vs. matches. You fail to realize that often times it's not. Think about it, does Zoom beat Galactus or Eternity because he's fast? According to you... Speed is everything and Zoom is shown to be faster than them via feats and grossly faster. Yet, you'd have to be stupid to think he can actually win. Once you start moving up the tiers, speed because far far less important. Do you see Eternity battling infinity and blitzing each other? Of course not. That is so far beneath them it's ridiculous to even try and imagine it. That is what you fail to realize here. Speed means very little when you're completely outclassed in virtually very area. Thanos has no issue dealing with speed. We've seen this on a number of occasions. He deals with it just fine. He's so smart... so tactical.. so versatile he finds a way. It's that simple. Superman gets curb'd with utter ease by Thanos. Speed is equivalent to stopping time or slowing it where everything appears frozen. This is completely unfair and makes it near impossible to lose. Eternity is abstract and is intangible. Zoom can't even touch him. So how can zoom beat him?

Thanos never dealt with Superman's speed before. So why lie?

Originally posted by h1a8
Speed is equivalent to stopping time or slowing it where everything appears frozen. This is completely unfair and makes it near impossible to lose. Eternity is abstract and is intangible. Zoom can't even touch him. So how can zoom beat him?

Thanos never dealt with Superman's speed before. So why lie?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
LIES!

Zop is actually correct here. But it had to come down to Amazo being the weak link. If we were to replace Amazo with HP Doomsday (fixed on Tyrant's destruction). How do people think that it go down? This seems like it also really depends which Trans level characters are used (power set matters sometimes). So I'm pretty much thinking that some would beat him easier than others. Tyrant after all, was made to be nearly as powerful as Galactus. I wouldn't put it past Tyrant if he were able to run through a room of Trans level characters like Infinity Man, Perrikus, Bor, Despero, etc, and dominate the mess out of them. Galactus and Tyrant could wreak a very large portion of the universe if it weren't stopped. This guy wasn't the little leagues, and the only reason that he did not kill Galactus in their final battle was due to nullification.

We saw what kind of damage that Galactus put out when he fought the Inbetweener. This is the level of character that Tyrant is. He could likely punch planets to pieces, like heralds punch mountains to pieces, and also take those types of hits. This is if we believe that he actually had an effect on Galactus during their off panel battle. There is evidence that it was a pretty rough fight though, because when Tyrant claimed Morg, He made Galactus back down. Galactus knew the kind of destruction that would be left in the wake of a battle between him and Tyrant.

I'm not sure if people are capable of judging power properly. Galactus fed, and he wasn't able to put Tyrant down on panel. He hurt him, but what was to be expected? I mean, a powered up Galactus hit him after all. Tyrant, is as powerful as any Dark Skyfather can be, but he isn't really considered that. He's a cosmic being like Galactus and from where I stood, he was about to kill Galactus. I even have difficulty with Odin being a match for Tyrant. Zoom, and the imps aren't going to be enough here.

Superboy Prime and Monarch would be more than enough.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Superboy Prime and Monarch would be more than enough.


You really think that? I can't see it.

Monarch would alone destroy Tyrant.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Superboy Prime
Monarch
Dr. Fate (Nabu manifested)
The Shade (One with the darklands)
Mordru

This team absolutely stomps Tyrant.

Any one of these from this list would take the majority against DP Tyrant

Originally posted by abhilegend
Monarch would alone destroy Tyrant.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Any one of these from this list would take the majority against DP Tyrant

Originally posted by Stoic
Zop is actually correct here.

You actually trust ZopZop.

THIS is why you fail!

Originally posted by h1a8
Speed is equivalent to stopping time or slowing it where everything appears frozen. This is completely unfair and makes it near impossible to lose. Eternity is abstract and is intangible. Zoom can't even touch him. So how can zoom beat him?

Thanos never dealt with Superman's speed before. So why lie?

THAT is the point. Eternity wouldn't get blitzed by Zoom nor would Galactus. They are above such things. It wouldn't work on them. This is done to illustrate how speed doesn't matter sometimes... how somebody having speed feats and somebody not doesn't matter. Superman's speed feats crap all over Galactus', it's not close. Yet you wouldn't pick him to win right? Same thing here... Thanos finds a way, he always does

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Superboy Prime and Monarch would be more than enough.

They get shit stomped

Originally posted by abhilegend
Monarch would alone destroy Tyrant.

He doesn't even have the slightest chance here. Thanos beats him personally, Tyrant wrecks him. Go run from the superman vs. Thanos thread though... it amuses me.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He doesn't even have the slightest chance here. Thanos beats him personally,

There is no way Thanos beats Monarch.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Monarch would alone destroy Tyrant.

Yup

Seems like we may have a match eh bud?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You actually trust ZopZop.

THIS is why you fail!
I heard that.

And no. Tyrant destroys Monarch, then feasts on his energy.

Prime or Monarch solos.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He doesn't even have the slightest chance here. Thanos beats him personally, Tyrant wrecks him. Go run from the superman vs. Thanos thread though... it amuses me.
Hahaha.

This kid and his hubris. Getting too much pats on the head recently, eh kid? Originally posted by zopzop

Tyrant died in a solar system level blast. Imagine what happens to him here.

Originally posted by zopzop
I heard that.

And no. Tyrant destroys Monarch, then feasts on his energy.
Based on what exactly? Fighting Galactus and losing?

Not impressed in the slightest.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha.

This kid and his hubris. Getting too much pats on the head recently, eh kid?
Tyrant died in a solar system level blast. Imagine what happens to him here. Originally posted by abhilegend
Based on what exactly? Fighting Galactus and losing?

Not impressed in the slightest.
Tyrant was NULLIFIED. Talk about lowballing.

Originally posted by zopzop
Tyrant was NULLIFIED. Talk about lowballing.
Eh, his legs were nullified. Later it was just overloading of the energies of the nullifier.

Morg's body survived after all.

Surfer survived its shock waves.

Tyrant was flat out killed.

Tyrant sucks.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eh, his legs were nullified. Later it was just overloading of the energies of the nullifier.

Morg's body survived after all.

Surfer survived its shock waves.

Tyrant was flat out killed.

Tyrant sucks.
Morg survived because Galactus tped himself and Morg away into a parallel dimension at the last second.

Surfer only survived because Galactus used his ship to contain as much of the blast as possible and it still destroyed an entire solar system.

Originally posted by zopzop
Morg survived because Galactus tped himself and Morg away into a parallel dimension at the last second.

Surfer only survived because Galactus used his ship to contain as much of the blast as possible and it still destroyed an entire solar system.
Galactus only teleported himself. Morg was killed but his body survived as shown in Annihilation.

So it wasn't nullification, just a huge energy blast, right? Because how else surfer survived it?

Tyrant sucks.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus only teleported himself. Morg was killed but his body survived as shown in Annihilation.

So it wasn't nullification, just a huge energy blast, right? Because how else surfer survived it?

Tyrant sucks.
It was the UN overloading. Tyrant was already mostly destroyed, Morg left nothing but his head.

Galactus tped himself .
Surfer survived the shockwave the initial blast was contained by Galactus' worldship.
http://s4.postimg.org/wwlkhgt6x/QWMkfkg.jpg

Stop lowballing.
EDIT -
I completely overlooked what you were talking about. Morg was never in the UN blast. He cut it off his arm and ran for his life. He didn't survive the aftershock.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus only teleported himself. Morg was killed but his body survived as shown in Annihilation.

So it wasn't nullification, just a huge energy blast, right? Because how else surfer survived it?

Tyrant sucks.

So you didn't read the issue nor know anything about the UN then... just say so. The UN can send out isolated NULLIFICATION blasts. We saw it with Tyrant we saw it against magus. A smaller nullification bubble/pocket can be sent out against a foe. That is EXACTLY what happened here. To say nothing of Galactus ship providing cover. Tryant was so bad ass.. he even survived the UN initial nullification blast. Yet somehow, to a shoes, that was a weak showing LOL. Tyrant curb stomps prime or monarch.. those aren't even fights.

Originally posted by zopzop
It was the UN overloading. Tyrant was already mostly destroyed, Morg left nothing but his head.

Galactus tped himself .
Surfer survived the shockwave the initial blast was contained by Galactus' worldship.
http://s4.postimg.org/wwlkhgt6x/QWMkfkg.jpg

Stop lowballing.
EDIT -
I completely overlooked what you were talking about. Morg was never in the UN blast. He cut it off his arm and ran for his life. He didn't survive the aftershock.

Exactly.

BAH!

ZopZop clearly alltered that scan to fit his argument.

The damn glinting bastard supporter!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
BAH!

ZopZop clearly alltered that scan to fit his argument.

The damn glinting bastard supporter!
naughty

Originally posted by zopzop
I heard that.

And no. Tyrant destroys Monarch, then feasts on his energy.

He'd feast on Prime as well. Tyrant could feed on anything that Galactus could. After all didn't they both feed on the biospheres of planets, or biospheric energy? Galactus even fed on Hyperstorm. Can't see why either of these guys would be above the power cosmic, or it's influence? This isn't magic after all, Tyrant was a confirmed cosmic being made to be nearly as powerful as Galactus. However, that would likely be a Galactus that has to feed on more than one planet, because when they had their final battle, Tyrant was going to murder spite kill Galactus. Galactus is seen on panel consuming a planet just before facing Tyrant. Nullification ended him, and that same UN would have also easily have destroyed most, if not any character that has been mentioned in this thread.

Originally posted by Stoic
He'd feast on Prime as well. Tyrant could feed on anything that Galactus could. After all didn't they both feed on the biospheres of planets, or biospheric energy? Galactus even fed on Hyperstorm. Can't see why either of these guys would be above the power cosmic, or it's influence? This isn't magic after all, Tyrant was a confirmed cosmic being made to be nearly as powerful as Galactus. However, that would likely be a Galactus that has to feed on more than one planet, because when they had their final battle, Tyrant was going to murder spite kill Galactus. Galactus is seen on panel consuming a planet just before facing Tyrant.
And Galactus straight up said that the planet made him feel more powerful than he had felt in ages. So he was at the top of his game when Tyrant humiliated him.

And regarding feeding on biospheric energy. Tyrant was so good at it that he even fed off the Power Cosmic, which is converted biospheric energy.

And all this is ignoring the shit ton of power he had stored in his orb room :
http://s30.postimg.org/ixkueuizx/h_T9u_Xp_L.jpg


Yup. The threat of nullification caused Korvac to sh|t his pants and commit suicide. Nullification ended Abraxas (who is far above Tyrant or Galactus). Losing to the UN is no low feat.

Originally posted by zopzop

And Galactus straight up said that the planet made him feel more powerful than he had felt in ages. So he was at the top of his game when Tyrant humiliated him.

And regarding feeding on biospheric energy. Tyrant was so good at it that he even fed off the Power Cosmic, which is converted biospheric energy.

And all this is ignoring the shit ton of power he had stored in his orb room :
http://s30.postimg.org/ixkueuizx/h_T9u_Xp_L.jpg


Yup. The threat of nullification caused Korvac to sh|t his pants and commit suicide. Nullification ended Abraxas (who is far above Tyrant or Galactus). Losing to the UN is no low feat.

Not sure why people even call him DP Tyrant? I mean that title makes little sense when compared to the full story surrounding him in terms of general context.

Originally posted by zopzop
It was the UN overloading. Tyrant was already mostly destroyed, Morg left nothing but his head.

Galactus tped himself .
Surfer survived the shockwave the initial blast was contained by Galactus' worldship.
http://s4.postimg.org/wwlkhgt6x/QWMkfkg.jpg

Stop lowballing.
EDIT -
I completely overlooked what you were talking about. Morg was never in the UN blast. He cut it off his arm and ran for his life. He didn't survive the aftershock.
Morg didn't survive? Then how did he appear in Annihilation?

http://i.imgur.com/NXVBnPA.jpg
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you didn't read the issue nor know anything about the UN then... just say so. The UN can send out isolated NULLIFICATION blasts. We saw it with Tyrant we saw it against magus. A smaller nullification bubble/pocket can be sent out against a foe. That is EXACTLY what happened here. To say nothing of Galactus ship providing cover. Tryant was so bad ass.. he even survived the UN initial nullification blast. Yet somehow, to a shoes, that was a weak showing LOL. Tyrant curb stomps prime or monarch.. those aren't even fights.
Adults are talking kiddo. No need to start your usual BS here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Morg didn't survive? Then how did he appear in Annihilation?

http://i.imgur.com/NXVBnPA.jpg


It was a retcon. In the original story ALL of them save Surfer died.

In a later issue of the FF (the arc that introduced Hyperstorm), it was retconned into Galactus tping himself and Air Walker into another dimension.

Then Morg's death was retconned in Annihilation. He was never caught in the Nullficiation effect though, just the shockwave.

Originally posted by zopzop
It was a retcon. In the original story ALL of them save Surfer died.

In a later issue of the FF (the arc that introduced Hyperstorm), it was retconned into Galactus tping himself and Air Walker into another dimension.

Then Morg's death was retconned in Annihilation. He was never caught in the Nullficiation effect though, just the shockwave.
Eh, any such retcon in the actual comic or is it conjecture again?

And it shows that the energy blast wasn't actually nullification, otherwise both surfer and Morg would have died in shockwaves too,

srug

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eh, any such retcon in the actual comic or is it conjecture again?

And it shows that the energy blast wasn't actually nullification, otherwise both surfer and Morg would have died in shockwaves too,

srug
No it was a legit retconn.

In the original story -
Morg and Surfer were the only ones to leave that ship. Morg cut off his arm to get rid of the Toadie Drone/UN creature and then cut a small hole in Galactus' worldship and ran. Surfer ran too. Surfer survived the shockwave. Morg didn't. Tyrant, Galactus, and Air Walker were stuck inside the ship and died.

In the FF Hyperstorm Arc -
It was retconned that Galactus tped himself and Air Walker into another dimension just as the Nullfifer went off.

In Annihilation -
Morg survived the shockwave.

The only reason they (morg and surfer) didn't die in the UN blast is because it never hit them. Only the shockwave of the blast. The blast was contained within Galactus' worldship.

Originally posted by zopzop
No it was a legit retconn.

In the original story -
Morg and Surfer were the only ones to leave that ship. Morg cut off his arm to get rid of the Toadie Drone/UN creature and then cut a small hole in Galactus' worldship and ran. Surfer ran too. Surfer survived the shockwave. Morg didn't. Tyrant, Galactus, and Air Walker were stuck inside the ship and died.

In the FF Hyperstorm Arc -
It was retconned that Galactus tped himself and Air Walker into another dimension just as the Nullfifer went off.

In Annihilation -
Morg survived the shockwave.

The only reason they (morg and surfer) didn't die in the UN blast is because it never hit them. Only the shockwave of the blast. The blast was contained within Galactus' worldship.
So any scan of this "legit retcon"?

Also how would the shockwave of nullification is just an energy blast?

Originally posted by zopzop
No it was a legit retconn.

In the original story -
Morg and Surfer were the only ones to leave that ship. Morg cut off his arm to get rid of the Toadie Drone/UN creature and then cut a small hole in Galactus' worldship and ran. Surfer ran too. Surfer survived the shockwave. Morg didn't. Tyrant, Galactus, and Air Walker were stuck inside the ship and died.

In the FF Hyperstorm Arc -
It was retconned that Galactus tped himself and Air Walker into another dimension just as the Nullfifer went off.

In Annihilation -
Morg survived the shockwave.

The only reason they (morg and surfer) didn't die in the UN blast is because it never hit them. Only the shockwave of the blast. The blast was contained within Galactus' worldship.

Not to mention that the Surfer can travel at least a couple light years in a second. How far did he get from the shock wave, versus how far did Morg get? The Surfer just got further, and was hit with less force. Which supports the events that led up to Morg being killed, and the Surfer being knocked out.

The crazy part comes down to when you have to defend a character that was stated, and portrayed on panel to be a Galactus level character (or powerful cosmic character). He can obviously punch planets to dust like Galactus, and the Inbetweener can. Could it be because Prime is involved?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So any scan of this "legit retcon"?
http://s1.postimg.org/ug84v1wwr/retcon1_1.jpg http://s1.postimg.org/9xhu3q8d7/retcon1_2.jpg
In the original story they all died save Surfer. Even Morg who cut his arm off and ran away before the blast went off. This is the first retcon where it says Galactus didn't die but teleported himself away into a parallel dimension before the UN destroyed his worldship.

Annihilation retconned Morg's death in the shockwave.


Because Galactus' worldship contained the brunt of the UN explosion.

Originally posted by zopzop

http://s1.postimg.org/ug84v1wwr/retcon1_1.jpg http://s1.postimg.org/9xhu3q8d7/retcon1_2.jpg
In the original story they all died save Surfer. Even Morg who cut his arm off and ran away before the blast went off. This is the first retcon where it says Galactus didn't die but teleported himself away into a parallel dimension before the UN destroyed his worldship.

Annihilation retconned Morg's death in the shockwave.


Because Galactus' worldship contained the brunt of the UN explosion.
So I'm asking for scans of retcon of Morg's death and you're posting Galactus retcon? You think I don't know about that?

And it also retconned that the worldship was destroyed or contained the blast.

So yeah, where is the retcon of Morg's death in Annihilation?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So yeah, where is the retcon of Morg's death in Annihilation?
Are you being slow on purpose?

In the original story he, Morg died. He escaped from the ship but didn't survive the shockwave. Then his body shows up in Annihilation.

Are you seriously trying to pass up Morg's body showing up as a retcon?

Uhm, the two aren't mutually exclusive?

The reason why they hunted the other heralds was because the CP had left Morg's body, iiirc.

So Monarch or Prime vs. Tyrant then?

Originally posted by zopzop
No it was a legit retconn.

In the original story -
Morg and Surfer were the only ones to leave that ship.
Morg cut off his arm to get rid of the Toadie Drone/UN creature and then cut a small hole in Galactus' worldship and ran.
Surfer ran too. Surfer survived the shockwave.
Morg didn't. Tyrant, Galactus, and Air Walker were stuck inside the ship and died.

In the FF Hyperstorm Arc -
It was retconned that Galactus tped himself and Air Walker into another dimension just as the Nullfifer went off.

In Annihilation -
Morg survived the shockwave.

The only reason they (morg and surfer) didn't die in the UN blast is because it never hit them.
Only the shockwave of the blast. The blast was contained within Galactus' worldship.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you seriously trying to pass up Morg's body showing up as a retcon?
No, it was my bad. I mis-remembered the scenes in Annihilation.

All I know is as of Silver Surfer 109, Morg and Surfer escaped the Worldship just before the Nullifier overloaded. Surfer survived the aftershock, Morg didn't. Galactus' ship took the brunt of the Nullification overloaded. It says right there on panel that the aftershock was a 'concussive force', not the actual Nullification blast.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So Monarch or Prime vs. Tyrant then?
Sure, make a thread. Originally posted by zopzop
No, it was my bad. I mis-remembered the scenes in Annihilation.

All I know is as of Silver Surfer 109, Morg and Surfer escaped the Worldship just before the Nullifier overloaded. Surfer survived the aftershock, Morg didn't. Galactus' ship took the brunt of the Nullification overloaded. It says right there on panel that the aftershock was a 'concussive force', not the actual Nullification blast.
It was retconned in FF 413 that Galactus tped with his world ship in an alternate dimension.

Hence, it couldn't have absorbed the attack from nullifier.

Anyway Tyrant sucks and Monarch beats the shit out of him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hence, it couldn't have absorbed the attack from nullifier.

Anyway Tyrant sucks and Monarch beats the shit out of him.
Which is false since we saw the ship destroyed ON PANEL and in the aftermath of the UN overloading we see the ruins of the worldship in SS109. You can clearly see the wrecked worldship on panel :
http://s23.postimg.org/atp4ni9vr/ELb_FYV0.jpg

And you are completely ignoring the fact thgat Tyrant was almost entirely destroyed before the UN overloaded anyway, since Morg used the nullifier to destroy his body.
http://s16.postimg.org/6b1ngloyp/tyrantgalactus6.jpg

Only you can take losing to the UN as some kind of low for a character.

More proof Reed was full of sh|t in that FF arc, he claims that Morg turned on Galactus and attacked him with the UN. Morg in fact got the UN to save Gaalctus from Tyrant :
http://s30.postimg.org/o2itz1txp/Fantastic_Four_414_010.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend

It was retconned in FF 413 that Galactus tped with his world ship in an alternate dimension.
FF #413

Here's the only scene in that book that references the 'Morg' bit:

http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/23654235_UN1.jpg

It tells us the UN overwhelmed/consumed Galactus and his ship.

Silver Surfer still thought he was dead.

Kris... so how about that Tyrant vs. Monarch thing you were talking about?

Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure why people even call him DP Tyrant? I mean that title makes little sense when compared to the full story surrounding him in terms of general context.

yep. no idea how the whole DP thing really ever began.

Tyrant is not beating a FC Flash and Zoom.
They stomp him easily.

DP Tyrant is normal Tyrant and FP Tyrant is after Tyrant absorbed Galactus power.

DP Tyrant is nothing more than a trans (Galactus can punk like a child).
FP Tyrant is a peer to Galactus.

So you do know how the whole DP thing began.

Originally posted by h1a8
Tyrant is not beating a FC Flash and Zoom.
They stomp him easily.

DP Tyrant is normal Tyrant and FP Tyrant is after Tyrant absorbed Galactus power.

DP Tyrant is nothing more than a trans (Galactus can punk like a child).
FP Tyrant is a peer to Galactus.

So you do know how the whole DP thing began.

As usual you have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
As usual you have no idea what you're talking about.

I know, it's ridiculous. I'm surprised by the number of people who have been temp banned, and how he escaped being one of them?

Fp flash or zoom are far above odin and tyrant.

Originally posted by h1a8
Speed is equivalent to stopping time or slowing it where everything appears frozen. This is completely unfair and makes it near impossible to lose. Eternity is abstract and is intangible. Zoom can't even touch him. So how can zoom beat him?


Even if Zoom could touch Eternity he still wouldn't be able to defeat him. His speed wouldn't help against Eternity because he wouldn't be able to inflict any damage.

Which is the same case here with Tyrant, who is too durable to be hurt by attacks by Zoom or Wally. Maybe you should concentrate on Wally's ability to steal speed instead.

Originally posted by Surtur
Even if Zoom could touch Eternity he still wouldn't be able to defeat him. His speed wouldn't help against Eternity because he wouldn't be able to inflict any damage.

Which is the same case here with Tyrant, who is too durable to be hurt by attacks by Zoom or Wally. Maybe you should concentrate on Wally's ability to steal speed instead.

Not that alone, but those with the Power Cosmic are able to bend time and space to their will. Tyrant is in an entirely different league than the guys that those tactics would work against. Scans have been shown on this board that show Tyrant as being a Galactus level character/threat. Not to mention that Tyrant was actually going to kill Galactus if he had not been nullified. Zoom and the Flash would have a tough time against the Surfer, and probably lose a majority to him alone.

Full powered Flash could erase eternity and other abstract like beings. The same goes for zoom with the negative speed force.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Full powered Flash could erase eternity and other abstract like beings. The same goes for zoom with the negative speed force.

Any proof?

Originally posted by Stoic
Any proof?

Flash when one with the speed force was able to erase the concept of death, and was able to rewrite the main DC universe/multiverse (2 separate events). Flash has multiple showings both from the pre-crisis era and post crisis era (flash point) of being able to influence the multiverse.

However, I am going to be focusing on the PC superman thread more so than this one. I take very few threads seriously, but I take PC superman very seriously and I will be posting a plethora of scans in that thread soon.

Go for it.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Flash when one with the speed force was able to erase the concept of death, and was able to rewrite the main DC universe/multiverse (2 separate events). Flash has multiple showings both from the pre-crisis era and post crisis era (flash point) of being able to influence the multiverse.

However, I am going to be focusing on the PC superman thread more so than this one. I take very few threads seriously, but I take PC superman very seriously and I will be posting a plethora of scans in that thread soon.

Uh sure, but just as long as you don't attempt to use those once in a lifetime feats as the norm. Tyrant is so far above these two that it actually is funny. Zoom and the imps aren't enough, and neither is the time warps, or ftl speed. LOL. It's all useless to heavy duty power cosmic users. Trust me on this okay. The Speed Force is one thing, but I'd place the the Power Cosmic in terms of scope to be, as great or perhaps even greater than the Speed Force. I mean the PC takes it's power from everything. Well at least as far as Marvel comics canon goes. So why do these light weights win?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Flash when one with the speed force was able to erase the concept of death, and was able to rewrite the main DC universe/multiverse (2 separate events). Flash has multiple showings both from the pre-crisis era and post crisis era (flash point) of being able to influence the multiverse.

However, I am going to be focusing on the PC superman thread more so than this one. I take very few threads seriously, but I take PC superman very seriously and I will be posting a plethora of scans in that thread soon.

Wally wasn't "one with the SF" when he defeated Black Flash. And it wasn't him who erased death, it was the fact that it couldn't handle the nothingness which Wally lead it to.

Barry wasn't the only one responsible for the Flashpoint showing (the merging part, i mean). And considering Pandora's very purpose is to rewrite the multiverse as shown in Futures End, it's most likely that she's the one who did most of the work.

Pre-Crisis Barry affecting the multiverse....i can only think of Flash #237? Which was weird and wasn't really consistent since the story jumped from telling us it was multiverse, then universe, then Earth-level destroying energies. Meh. Regardless, pre-Crisis Flash (Barry) wasn't above his post crisis self; let's not forget the times where he was defeated by complete losers from his rogue gallery like Captain Boomerang, or the Top, or Rainbow Raider, or other random clowns who just show up for one story; hell, street level characters (of which CB and Top are a part of) like Yorkin and Saber-tooth (off the top of my head) have managed to best PC Barry. Tyrant would absolutely mop the floor with him.

I also don't recall any multiversal showing in the post-crisis era. Although i suppose Barry creating the SF should count as one. I do admit that toward the end of the post-Crisis era, when Barry returned, he started to getting treated like some sort of cosmic being in terms of importance, but when it came to fights....i recall him getting beaten by alternate reality rogues. Which also mirrors what happened to Bart when he absorbed the speed force before Barry's return. Bart, despite having the entire speed force inside him, stalemate Steppenwolf.... So i really don't see why Tyrant would have a problem with him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not that alone, but those with the Power Cosmic are able to bend time and space to their will. Tyrant is in an entirely different league than the guys that those tactics would work against. Scans have been shown on this board that show Tyrant as being a Galactus level character/threat. Not to mention that Tyrant was actually going to kill Galactus if he had not been nullified. Zoom and the Flash would have a tough time against the Surfer, and probably lose a majority to him alone. what are you talking about? Did you read the story? Tryant was nothing to Galactus until he absorbed his power. Galactus treated him like a child. Getting hit with a powerful enough imp will kill tryant

Originally posted by Surtur
Even if Zoom could touch Eternity he still wouldn't be able to defeat him. His speed wouldn't help against Eternity because he wouldn't be able to inflict any damage.

Which is the same case here with Tyrant, who is too durable to be hurt by attacks by Zoom or Wally. Maybe you should concentrate on Wally's ability to steal speed instead. tryant isn't immune to physical blunt force. Eternity is because it is abstract. FC zoom or flash would kill tryant with a powerful enough imp.

Originally posted by h1a8
what are you talking about? Did you read the story? Tryant was nothing to Galactus until he absorbed his power. Galactus treated him like a child. Getting hit with a powerful enough imp will kill tryant

tryant isn't immune to physical blunt force. Eternity is because it is abstract. FC zoom or flash would kill tryant with a powerful enough imp.

We clearly see everything down the line differently. Your judgement skills make little sense to me. So what if Galactus slapped Tyrant through a bulkhead? It wasn't as if it knocked him out! What was he supposed to do, stand there and tank Galactus' assault? I don't understand why you can't see this for the double standard that it is dude? It's like you were too busy noticing that one guy put out damage that you failed to remember that Tyrant put far more damage on Galactus. He isn't limited to a base level of physical strength when he has the ability to consume the natural energy from living creatures and create a symbiotic relationship with smart devices.

All of this Zoom, and Flash talk is ridiculous. Operator616 spelled it all out to you, but like the comics you read, and ignore portions of, you likely ignored many portions of what he wrote. Was Tyrant supposed to be unfazed by Galactus' punches? What are you saying exactly? Did you know that Galactus didn't have to blast tyrant in order for tyrant to absorb his power? Galactus does it himself. The only difference is that Tyrant doesn't get weaker with hunger.

You should go back and read everything on the character, because there's a ton more context on Galactus, and Tyrant than what was written during their final confrontation. Just saying. Tyrant was going to devour Galactus, and he prepped for centuries in order to take his revenge. Tyrant can drain just about any living creature of its life energy. Look at the assemblage of characters that he was draining with just those heralds. one was magic, three cosmic, one super alien, etc. It didn't matter what they were, he drained them all. Galactus was no different.

And LOL at powerful enough imp. Please.

Originally posted by Stoic
We clearly see everything down the line differently. Your judgement skills make little sense to me. So what if Galactus slapped Tyrant through a bulkhead? It wasn't as if it knocked him out! What was he supposed to do, stand there and tank Galactus' assault? I don't understand why you can't see this for the double standard that it is dude? It's like you were too busy noticing that one guy put out damage that you failed to remember that Tyrant put far more damage on Galactus. He isn't limited to a base level of physical strength when he has the ability to consume the natural energy from living creatures and create a symbiotic relationship with smart devices.

All of this Zoom, and Flash talk is ridiculous. Operator616 spelled it all out to you, but like the comics you read, and ignore portions of, you likely ignored many portions of what he wrote. Was Tyrant supposed to be unfazed by Galactus' punches? What are you saying exactly? Did you know that Galactus didn't have to blast tyrant in order for tyrant to absorb his power? Galactus does it himself. The only difference is that Tyrant doesn't get weaker with hunger.

You should go back and read everything on the character, because there's a ton more context on Galactus, and Tyrant than what was written during their final confrontation. Just saying. Tyrant was going to devour Galactus, and he prepped for centuries in order to take his revenge. Tyrant can drain just about any living creature of its life energy. Look at the assemblage of characters that he was draining with just those heralds. one was magic, three cosmic, one super alien, etc. It didn't matter what they were, he drained them all. Galactus was no different.

And LOL at powerful enough imp. Please. Tyrant doesn't start at Galactus level. It takes time to absorb him. Galactus has the power to kill or absorb Tyrant before he becomes a threat.

Anyway, at FC zoom and flash can move at trillions of the speed of light. Do you know how much kinetic energy that would be? Do you know that they are capable of increasing the mass of their fist to astronomical amounts? Flash can speed steal, and do all other sorts of nasty attacks.

Originally posted by h1a8
Tyrant doesn't start at Galactus level. It takes time to absorb him. Galactus has the power to kill or absorb Tyrant before he becomes a threat.

Anyway, at FC zoom and flash can move at trillions of the speed of light. Do you know how much kinetic energy that would be? Do you know that they are capable of increasing the mass of their fist to astronomical amounts? Flash can speed steal, and do all other sorts of nasty attacks.

Originally posted by zopzop
I lol every time I think about it. The flashes are extremely unfair to use in a forum fight. You might as well use a character that can effectively stop time for billions of years (defeating their opponents at their leisure) . An attosecond_is to a second what a second is to about 31.7 billion years. The only way Tyrant is beating the flashes is if we throw ALL common sense and logic out of the window.

P.S. Even if flash operated a million times slower than that then he would still have over 30, 000 years to beat the statue.

You know he is actually laughing at you right?

Originally posted by h1a8
I lol every time I think about it. The flashes are extremely unfair to use in a forum fight. You might as well use a character that can effectively stop time for billions of years (defeating their opponents at their leisure) . An attosecond_is to a second what a second is to about 31.7 billion years. The only way Tyrant is beating the flashes is if we throw ALL common sense and logic out of the window.

P.S. Even if flash operated a million times slower than that then he would still have over 30, 000 years to beat the statue.

I thought that Galactus was the one that physically struck Tyrant first? How would it make any sense that to say that Galactus was far above Tyrant when he was unable to one shot Tyrant? Even the Inbetweener has been rocked by a punch from Galactus. Sorry about the size of the pic guys.

http://whencallsgalactus.com/files/2013/01/SSvINBETWEENER_0004.jpg

Tyrant wasn't supposed to be able to tank a punch from Galactus, but when Tyrant attacks Galactus, he nearly kills him. Galactus has the ability to drain off power from Tyrant as well BTW. If anyone had the fight, could they post it? I believe that h1 is twisting the truth. Zoom and the lash can not beat someone that can not just tank their blows, but could energize the entire battlefield by flooding it with the power cosmic. Tyrant is also crazy fast. All Power Cosmic users can warp space, and when you couple that with a measure of cosmic awareness there is no way on earth that either or both Zoom, and the Flash are beating Tyrant. He could go anywhere that they can, but the difference is that he has the power to track them. They die horribly.

Originally posted by Stoic
I thought that Galactus was the one that physically struck Tyrant first? How would it make any sense that to say that Galactus was far above Tyrant when he was unable to one shot Tyrant? Even the Inbetweener has been rocked by a punch from Galactus. Sorry about the size of the pic guys.

http://whencallsgalactus.com/files/2013/01/SSvINBETWEENER_0004.jpg

Tyrant wasn't supposed to be able to tank a punch from Galactus, but when Tyrant attacks Galactus, he nearly kills him. Galactus has the ability to drain off power from Tyrant as well BTW. If anyone had the fight, could they post it? I believe that h1 is twisting the truth. Zoom and the lash can not beat someone that can not just tank their blows, but could energize the entire battlefield by flooding it with the power cosmic. Tyrant is also crazy fast. All Power Cosmic users can warp space, and when you couple that with a measure of cosmic awareness there is no way on earth that either or both Zoom, and the Flash are beating Tyrant. He could go anywhere that they can, but the difference is that he has the power to track them. They die horribly.
http://imgur.com/a/dRVjs#0

Mackey couldn't write to save his life The showdown between Galactus and Tyrant under Marz was just as impressive. Galactus feasted in SS 75 (I think) then later he set out to find Morg and he was PISSED that his herald hadn't returned. Firelord even commented on how upset Galactus looked and he wouldn't want to be in his way.

Galactus takes Tyrant by surprise because Tyrant was playing with the heralds and threatens war unless Morg is returned. Tyrant dares him to try and Galactus backs down and Surfer even calls him on it.

WTF is Zoom gonna do to a being that can cause a fed and angry Galactus to back down?

Originally posted by Stoic
I thought that Galactus was the one that physically struck Tyrant first? How would it make any sense that to say that Galactus was far above Tyrant when he was unable to one shot Tyrant? Even the Inbetweener has been rocked by a punch from Galactus. Sorry about the size of the pic guys.

http://whencallsgalactus.com/files/2013/01/SSvINBETWEENER_0004.jpg

Tyrant wasn't supposed to be able to tank a punch from Galactus, but when Tyrant attacks Galactus, he nearly kills him. Galactus has the ability to drain off power from Tyrant as well BTW. If anyone had the fight, could they post it? I believe that h1 is twisting the truth. Zoom and the lash can not beat someone that can not just tank their blows, but could energize the entire battlefield by flooding it with the power cosmic. Tyrant is also crazy fast. All Power Cosmic users can warp space, and when you couple that with a measure of cosmic awareness there is no way on earth that either or both Zoom, and the Flash are beating Tyrant. He could go anywhere that they can, but the difference is that he has the power to track them. They die horribly.

They could energize the field after thousands of years in zooms mind. By that time they would be dead. Prove that Tyrant can take a hit from an object with the mass of a star or the kinetic energy capable of pulverizing planets. The IMP is a punch where Zoom or flash can gain limitless mass to strike with.

Originally posted by zopzop
http://imgur.com/a/dRVjs#0

Mackey couldn't write to save his life The showdown between Galactus and Tyrant under Marz was just as impressive. Galactus feasted in SS 75 (I think) then later he set out to find Morg and he was PISSED that his herald hadn't returned. Firelord even commented on how upset Galactus looked and he wouldn't want to be in his way.

Galactus takes Tyrant by surprise because Tyrant was playing with the heralds and threatens war unless Morg is returned. Tyrant dares him to try and Galactus backs down and Surfer even calls him on it.

WTF is Zoom gonna do to a being that can cause a fed and angry Galactus to back down? kill him in one hit. Kill Galactus too. Neither can tank infinite blunt force. Also zoom would have billions of years to defeat them. You can't tell me that imping for billions of years won't turn both into paste.

Originally posted by h1a8
Tyrant doesn't start at Galactus level. It takes time to absorb him. Galactus has the power to kill or absorb Tyrant before he becomes a threat.

Galactus himself said that a battle between him and Tyrant would cause massive destruction, what does that tell you?


Originally posted by h1a8
I lol every time I think about it. The flashes are extremely unfair to use in a forum fight. You might as well use a character that can effectively stop time for billions of years (defeating their opponents at their leisure) . An attosecond_is to a second what a second is to about 31.7 billion years. The only way Tyrant is beating the flashes is if we throw ALL common sense and logic out of the window.

P.S. Even if flash operated a million times slower than that then he would still have over 30, 000 years to beat the statue.

So just because Wally has two "attosecond" feats in his entire history we should assume that's the level he'll be operating at. Never mind the time when it was established that Barry needed an entire minute to reach super sonic speeds no matter how hard he tried, or the time Wally needed several seconds to reach mach 8 (there are many other limitations which i could mention but those two are the most recent and usable ones). That's all the time Tyrant needs to one-shot any Flash. But your logic dictates we should take the highest of high feats (and btw, those "attosecond" instances happened twice in the span of 6 or 7 issues and then they were forgotten and never used again from what i remember) and regard everything else, the decades of comics which show that he doesn't operate at these levels, as PIS/CIS.

Originally posted by zopzop
Which is false since we saw the ship destroyed ON PANEL and in the aftermath of the UN overloading we see the ruins of the worldship in SS109. You can clearly see the wrecked worldship on panel :
http://s23.postimg.org/atp4ni9vr/ELb_FYV0.jpg

And you are completely ignoring the fact thgat Tyrant was almost entirely destroyed before the UN overloaded anyway, since Morg used the nullifier to destroy his body.
http://s16.postimg.org/6b1ngloyp/tyrantgalactus6.jpg Do you know what a retcon means exactly? If Galactus' worldship was destroyed, where did it come from again?

If only he had lost to UN. He didn't.



Well, Morg did turn on Galactus, and he even says he only heard it from surfer which was pointed out as less than objective. The point still stands that Tyrant sucks and Monarch would own him like a *****.