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(In no real order)

Luke Cage
Colossus
Thing
Juggernaut
Hercules
Thor (bare hands)
Gladiator
Savage Hulk
Wonder Woman
Captain Marvel
Black Adam
Thor w/Mjolnir
Superman
World War Hulk
Our Worlds At War Superman
Superman Prime (Guardian Amped)

Which of the following characters, if any, could one-shot Wolverine with their bare hands (or weapon if specified)?

How many attacks from each of them would it take for them to KO Wolverine?


BONUS FIGHT: Iron Fist

Iron Fist.

oh boy....... this should be fun.

Iron Fist.

Edit: And I'm not ripping off Mindset, I didn't even read his post.

Originally posted by Mindset
Iron Fist.

I need to add him as the bonus round.

a deer

Originally posted by JakeTheBank



BONUS FIGHT: Iron Fist
fails.

Steel Serpent?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
fails.

What about the rest of the list?

Wolverine has relatively human level durability. He can take a punch from a guy who can one shot a meteorite twice the size of the earth. Even if someone was 100000000000000000000000 million times stronger then the Hulk, it would be mathematically impossible for them to do more damage to someone with baseline human durability. The damage is has already plateaued. Hulk could flail his arms wildly the shock front would and turn all Wolverine's muscles and organs into mulch. We've been told in narration bubbles that single punch from the Hulk liquifies all of Wolverine's organs. You can't really get more damaging then that. If that doesn't one shot him... what do you think will?

Impossible to one shot.

The only people I can see one shotting Wolverine are Thor, Superman, Hulk, and Prime.

Originally posted by cdtm
Steel Serpent?
would fail even with 10 shots...........

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine has relatively human level durability. He can take a punch from a guy who can one shot a meteorite twice the size of the earth. Even if someone was 100000000000000000000000 million times stronger then the Hulk, it would be mathematically impossible for them to do more damage to someone with baseline human durability. The damage is has already plateaued. Hulk could flail his arms wildly the shock front would and turn all Wolverine's muscles and organs into mulch. We've been told in narration bubbles that single punch from the Hulk liquifies all of Wolverine's organs. You can't really get more damaging then that. If that doesn't one shot him... what do you think will?

Impossible to one shot. one punch would not liquify all of logan's organs...that's simply not possible

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The only people I can see one shotting Wolverine are Thor, Superman, Hulk, and Prime. pretty much

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
would fail even with 10 shots...........

Mr. X did it in less.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The only people I can see one shotting Wolverine are Thor, Superman, Hulk, and Prime.

I not sure I agree with this 100%, but there deff the people I would think have the potential too.

Lol surprised someone didn't make this sooner

Originally posted by cdtm
Mr. X did it in less.
Wolverine had also foughten an army all day.

Originally posted by Starscream M
one punch would not liquify all of logan's organs...that's simply not possible

lol

Hulk could aim a punch at your baby toe and the force of him moving his arm would liquify his targets brain. He one shots planets and lifts billions of tons. Can you fathom how strong that is?

WW hulk couldn't KO logan with multiple haymakers at close range. doesn't that say it all?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Lol surprised someone didn't make this sooner
im pretty sure it has been made.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
lol

Hulk could aim a punch at your baby toe and the force of him moving his arm would liquify his targets brain. He one shots planets and lifts billions of tons. Can you fathom how strong that is? no, if he punches my toe, my toes will be crushed. that will not mean my lungs or brain will have liquified.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Lol surprised someone didn't make this sooner

there was a similar tgread--logan vs the knock out. that had some great moments too. can't wait to see where this goes. i wonder how long it will stay open...?

Originally posted by Starscream M
no, if he punches my toe, my toes will be crushed. that will not mean my lungs or brain will have liquified.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
if someone hits my toe, nothing will happen to my organs, no matter how hard they hit my toe.

Originally posted by Starscream M
if someone hits my toe, nothing will happen to my organs, no matter how hard they hit my toe.

am i thr only one who finds that line f'ing hilarious....?

Originally posted by Starscream M
if someone hits my toe, nothing will happen to my organs, no matter how hard they hit my toe.

the force given off by punch of Hulks arm would create hurricain times 1000 back lash (and thats an under statement) You be thrown if not exploded.

Originally posted by Starscream M
no, if he punches my toe, my toes will be crushed. that will not mean my lungs or brain will have liquified.

Hulk is a planet buster. The displaced air created by the force of his blows would create a high pressure shock front. Same principle behind a grenade... only several orders of magnitude more powerful. Physics. Bing it bro.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lso7v0KhM61qe3p9bo1_500.gif

Originally posted by wildernesss
WW hulk couldn't KO logan with multiple haymakers at close range. doesn't that say it all?

i hit my thumb with a hammer once and i swear it felt like all my organs liquified....

Carmilla Black could do it.

Originally posted by leonidas
am i thr only one who finds that line f'ing hilarious....?

Nope.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hulk could aim a punch at your baby toe and the force of him moving his arm would liquify his targets brain. He one shots planets and lifts billions of tons. Can you fathom how strong that is? chuch!

Originally posted by leonidas
i hit my thumb with a hammer once and i swear it felt like all my organs liquified.... naturally

Originally posted by Mindset
Iron Fist.

fails

Originally posted by Mindset
Iron Fist.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
fails

Originally posted by Mindset
Iron Fist.

Originally posted by Mindset
Fails

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_plaguelogan1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_plaguelogan2.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_plaguelogan3.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_plaguelogan4.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_plaguelogan5fantomex.jpg

it was a one-shot

Iron Fist has a better chance of having a heart attack from the pain caused from his arm shattering against Wolverine's face, then he does of knocking Wolverine out.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Iron Fist has a better chance of having a heart attack from the pain caused from his arm shattering against Wolverine's face, then he does of knocking Wolverine out. I used to not read comics too.

So I understand where you're coming from.

Originally posted by Mindset
I used to not read comics too, I still don't, but I used not to too.


http://www.freeinfosociety.com/media/images/3486.jpg

He's dead, like Wolverine would be from an IF oneshot.

Why is colossus so low?

Originally posted by Mindset
He's dead, like Wolverine would be from an IF oneshot.

Only in your imagination.

Does Iron Fist even have the time to fight Wolverine? Doesn't he spend most of his time not being able to beat Daredevil?

Isn't Wolverine getting his ass beat by Cyclops right now?

Originally posted by Mindset
Isn't Wolverine getting his ass beat by Cyclops right now?

Do you think Danny is jealous that Scott did much better in melee against Wolverine then he could, or is he just happy to fight a character that doesn't have a harpoon in the eye?

Prime and Superman would.

WW should too.

Any of the class 100 characters are capable of one-shotting, heavily depending in how Logan takes the punch.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Do you think Danny is jealous that Scott did much better in melee against Wolverine then he could, or is he just happy to fight a character that doesn't have a harpoon in the eye? I think Danny is happy that the next time he fights Wolverine he wont have to hold back to save Wolverine's pride since it has already been shattered by Cyc.

Originally posted by Mindset
I think Danny is happy that the next time he fights Wolverine he wont have to hold back to save Wolverine's pride since it has already been shattered by Cyc.

Wolverine's pride is fine, he was just letting Cyclops blast him repeatedly in face with full strength blasts to try and dissuade the deluded Iron Fist fans who cling to the insane hope that Danny has anything in his arsenal that would even make Wolverine bat an eye.

The only time Iron Fist was ever impressive or an interesting character, was when Wolverine was briefly the Iron Fist in pages New Avengers. That was the most panel time Iron Fist got in the series... well... outside of being tooled by Wolverine.

Too long for a comeback, didn't read.

Originally posted by Mindset
Too long for a comeback, didn't read.

Just try and sound out the words, you can do it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Just try and sound out the words, you can do it. Just try to be better at witty retorts.

Originally posted by Mindset
Just try to be better at witty retorts.

No you

I think you guys should put this off till UMVC3 comes out settle it with a match and that's the winner for all time.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I think you guys should put this off till UMVC3 comes out settle it with a match and that's the winner for all time.

Wolverine is easily the most broken character in the game right now, so I think we can all predict how that fight will play out... exactly the same as in the comics, Wolverine will lay down an effortless one sided beat down on Iron Fist, while Mindset cries in the corner.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsnpveVoLx1qf0ljno1_400.gif

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

The only time Iron Fist was ever impressive or an interesting character, was when Wolverine was briefly the Iron Fist in pages New Avengers. That was the most panel time Iron Fist got in the series... well... outside of being tooled by Wolverine.

And that should tell you something, no?

Like not using him as a definitive version, when the writer obviously doesn't care for him, or use him for much of anything...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine is easily the most broken character in the game right now, so I think we can all predict how that fight will play out... exactly the same as in the comics, Wolverine will lay down an effortless one sided beat down on Iron Fist, while Mindset cries in the corner.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsnpveVoLx1qf0ljno1_400.gif

A lot of characters are getting nerfed, and I believe Wolverines one of them.

I'd pay to see that fight. Try and make a Youtube video if you throw down.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine is easily the most broken character in the game right now, so I think we can all predict how that fight will play out... exactly the same as in the comics, Wolverine will lay down an effortless one sided beat down on Iron Fist, while Mindset cries in the corner.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsnpveVoLx1qf0ljno1_400.gif Don't play fighting games, but if I did, Wolverine would lose every fight he face against me as IF.

Originally posted by cdtm
And that should tell you something, no?

Like not using him as a definitive version, when the writer obviously doesn't care for him, or use him for much of anything...

No, it's the definitive veversion of Iron Fist, it's just that the definitive version of Iron Fist is useless on the Avengers. He is a skilled martial artist with a power punch... but he isn't as skilled as Wolverine, and he can't hit as hard as the Thing. He's useless, that's why what Iron Fist does best... is get his solo titles cancelled.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine is easily the most broken character in the game right now, so I think we can all predict how that fight will play out... exactly the same as in the comics, Wolverine will lay down an effortless one sided beat down on Iron Fist, while Mindset cries in the corner.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsnpveVoLx1qf0ljno1_400.gif actually, iron fist looks pretty scary right now. he has the ability to crumple stun like she-hulk, but his stun is easier to pull off it seems as it's in all of his leaked combos

If the OP means a clean KO(think Rashad Evans vs Chuck Liddell), I don't think a physical attack like a punch/kick/slam/etc with no special properties will one-shot Wolverine. His powerset protects him from that.

Originally posted by StyleTime
If the OP means a clean KO(think Rashad Evans vs Chuck Liddell), I don't think a physical attack like a punch/kick/slam/etc with no special properties will one-shot Wolverine. His powerset protects him from that.


You would be wrong.

Your face is wrong.

Originally posted by Bentley
You would be wrong.

No, he's right.

Iron fist using more esoteric mystic kungfu means could probably do it. Like a chi attack that shuts down the mind or some such ability. Fairly certain he's got something like that in his arsenal considering the crap writers let him get away with due to his "chi" abilities.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No, he's right.


You are the Wolverine expert. Has he ever been one-shotted by a physical attack? For me that would include cheap shots and low showings and to say it's impossible is going very far away.

Originally posted by Bentley
You are the Wolverine expert. Has he ever been one-shotted by a physical attack? For me that would include cheap shots and low showings and to say it's impossible is going very far away.

Namor.

Originally posted by cdtm
Namor.
That wasent one shot.

Originally posted by Bentley
You are the Wolverine expert. Has he ever been one-shotted by a physical attack? For me that would include cheap shots and low showings and to say it's impossible is going very far away.

Of course he has, but we don't use PIS examples. It's against the rules.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Of course he has, but we don't use PIS examples. It's against the rules.


I agree that many low level one-shots are PIS, but to think any punch can be effectively resisted under normal circumstances sounds a bit too "infinity fallacy" for me, to be honest. I don't think just any top tier can produce the force to effectively ko Wolverine 100% of the time, but I will not condone thinking that Logan will hang with even higher levels of strength.

Originally posted by Bentley
I agree that many low level one-shots are PIS, but to think any punch can be effectively resisted under normal circumstances sounds a bit too "infinity fallacy" for me, to be honest. I don't think just any top tier can produce the force to effectively ko Wolverine 100% of the time, but I will not condone thinking that Logan will hang with even higher levels of strength.

Well, no, technically speaking, if somebody punched Wolverine so hard, that, even with his adamantium skeleton diffusing the strength of the blow, and his healing factor working at max speed, every single atom of flesh was disintegrated leaving behind nothing but his skeleton... then once he'd healed from that, they could probably put him down with a few more solid shots

Adamantium can be broken though. Take a draconium round for example...

One shot Wolverine? Aunt may with a roller pin could do it, and maybe pre-crisis Validus.

Originally posted by Bentley
I agree that many low level one-shots are PIS, but to think any punch can be effectively resisted under normal circumstances sounds a bit too "infinity fallacy" for me, to be honest. I don't think just any top tier can produce the force to effectively ko Wolverine 100% of the time, but I will not condone thinking that Logan will hang with even higher levels of strength.

I don't think you understand. Wolverine has more or less human level durability, even punches from Spider-man level guys will turn is brain into soup, he just heals. Everyone of these guys punches will **** up Wolverine, and technically he'll be dead for a fraction of a second, but he'll heal nigh instantly. A character "koes" Wolverine by overloading his healing factor, so that diminish returns kicks in and the damage starts to stack faster then he can heal... that can't ever happen on the first blow. All Wolverine's organs get turned into mulch every time he takes a class 100 blow, but he heals... and it doesn't get more damaging then that in one blow.

Hit in the head, dent the skull so big chunk of adamantium stays in the brain area. That should ko.

Originally posted by Bentley
Hit in the head, dent the skull so big chunk of adamantium stays in the brain area. That should ko.

His skull isn't made of Secondary Adamantium, so that isn't happening.

Wolverine fanboys are so amusing.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
His skull isn't made of Secondary Adamantium, so that isn't happening.


Every kind of adamantium is destructible if enough force applied. It's unearthly force of course, but still. Or are you arguing that Captain America's shield is secondary adamantium?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine has relatively human level durability. He can take a punch from a guy who can one shot a meteorite twice the size of the earth. Even if someone was 100000000000000000000000 million times stronger then the Hulk, it would be mathematically impossible for them to do more damage to someone with baseline human durability. The damage is has already plateaued. Hulk could flail his arms wildly the shock front would and turn all Wolverine's muscles and organs into mulch. We've been told in narration bubbles that single punch from the Hulk liquifies all of Wolverine's organs. You can't really get more damaging then that. If that doesn't one shot him... what do you think will?

Impossible to one shot. Srank, what the HELL are you talking abut?

Originally posted by SamZED
Srank, what the HELL are you talking abut?

Basically, he's saying anytime Wolverines been hit by a mid to high end brick, ever, his insides turn to jelly and insta heal while retaining consciousness, and that's as much damage as anyone could ever do to him.

So, say, Thing hits him hard, his insides liquify, heal in seconds, and he's fine and never loses consciousness.

Lobo hits him hard, his insides liquify, heal in seconds, and he's fine.

Validus hits him, yadda yadda yadda.

Pre Crisis Omega...... same deal.

A ridiculous argument, imo, but that's about the jist of it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine has relatively human level durability. He can take a punch from a guy who can one shot a meteorite twice the size of the earth. Even if someone was 100000000000000000000000 million times stronger then the Hulk, it would be mathematically impossible for them to do more damage to someone with baseline human durability. The damage is has already plateaued. Hulk could flail his arms wildly the shock front would and turn all Wolverine's muscles and organs into mulch. We've been told in narration bubbles that single punch from the Hulk liquifies all of Wolverine's organs. You can't really get more damaging then that. If that doesn't one shot him... what do you think will?

Impossible to one shot.

So, The Living Tribunal w/IG and HOTU wouldn't be able to one-shot Wolverine?

Originally posted by Bentley
Adamantium can be broken though. Take a draconium round for example...
what?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine fanboys are so amusing.
not as amusing as brainless trolls.

Originally posted by Bentley
Every kind of adamantium is destructible if enough force applied. It's unearthly force of course, but still. Or are you arguing that Captain America's shield is secondary adamantium?

primary Adamatium is not destructable unless by some form of matter manipulation.



Capt shield does not posses adamatium.

Didn't Juggernaut one shot Wolverine?

Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
Didn't Juggernaut one shot Wolverine?
No he actually he hit him more then once, and that was prior to him having a healing factor (healing factor was not brought up till several issues later)

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
primary Adamatium is not destructable unless by some form of matter manipulation.



Capt shield does not posses adamatium.


BS. I've read a lot on Ultron and I know that physical force can destroy adamantium and bend it, which would be enough to ko Wolverine as I stated before.

Draconium is an element that is discovered in the 25th century that plows through adamantium as if it was tissu paper

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The only people I can see one shotting Wolverine are Thor, Superman, Hulk, and Prime.



Yup.

Hey didn`t Thing BONK Wolverine upside the head and one shot him that one time?

Originally posted by Mshinu
Hey didn`t Thing BONK Wolverine upside the head and one shot him that one time?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27874/758717-logan12jz_super.jpg

Originally posted by tkitna
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27874/758717-logan12jz_super.jpg


interesting scan, but carefully read what richards says in the following panel; logan was "still too dazed" from the thing's "initial impact" to react quickly enough. clearly, logan would not be substantially dazed unless his HF had already been partially overloaded....which is evident by what richards says. therefore, I wouldn't regard this as a one punch KO. even if richards hadn't said that i would regard this as PIS. logan's taken far far far more punishment without a KO in sight. In fact, the thing took less
damage from WW hulk than logan....but was KOed. logan
was not.


also, logan's HF has been upgraded since then iirc.

Originally posted by Bentley
BS. I've read a lot on Ultron and I know that physical force can destroy adamantium and bend it, which would be enough to ko Wolverine as I stated before.

Draconium is an element that is discovered in the 25th century that plows through adamantium as if it was tissu paper
Most of ultron versions are not primary adamatium. You are mixing the two up. Secondary adamatium been broken a bunch of times. Primary really only been damage by matter manipulation type attacks.

issue number and title

Originally posted by Bentley
BS. I've read a lot on Ultron and I know that physical force can destroy adamantium and bend it, which would be enough to ko Wolverine as I stated before.

Draconium is an element that is discovered in the 25th century that plows through adamantium as if it was tissu paper You still talking about comics or predicting the future?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Most of ultron versions are not primary adamatium. You are mixing the two up. Secondary adamatium been broken a bunch of times. Primary really only been damage by matter manipulation type attacks.

issue number and title


Even if most Ultron's weren't adamantium, in the very creation of adamantium Thor manage to dent a cylinder made of it. It was barely dented, but that by itself proves adamantium can be physically affected.

And Dragonite appeared from the first time at Guardians of the Galaxy v1 18 -where a guy nonchalantly says that several things can destroy adamantium-.

Originally posted by Bentley
Even if most Ultron's weren't adamantium, in the very creation of adamantium Thor manage to dent a cylinder made of it. It was barely dented, but that by itself proves adamantium can be physically affected.
thor cannot damage true adamantium.

Hulk > adamantium http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/iviking/hulk.gif

http://media.photobucket.com/image/hulk%20maestro%20dog/Hulk3389/dogowarstrength.jpg

Originally posted by Starscream M
thor cannot damage true adamantium.


He barely dent it, but there is no reason to suppose someone stronger than Thor cannot deal more damage.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
primary Adamatium is not destructable unless by some form of matter manipulation.



Capt shield does not posses adamatium.

Sufficient force can and has damaged primary Adamantium.

I'd wager anything that can damage Captain America's shield can damage primary Adamantium unless it's a Vibranium specific weapon or something.

Cap's shield is stronger than adamantium, therefore anything that can damage it...most certainly can damage adamantium.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sufficient force can and has damaged primary Adamantium.

I'd wager anything that can damage Captain America's shield can damage primary Adamantium unless it's a Vibranium specific weapon or something.

Not sure about the "has" part though.

King Thor has damaged/destroyed Wolverine's skeleton

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
primary Adamatium is not destructable unless by some form of matter manipulation.



Capt shield does not posses adamatium. King thor, odin, zeus, the serpent all have pwned adamantium through sheer power before so no

I will replicate from the Logan camp: Prove it wasn't magic.

Originally posted by Bentley
I will replicate from the Logan camp: Prove it wasn't magic. Cant be magic if all those skyfathers did it

Originally posted by Parmaniac


Not sure about the "has" part though. do you read alot of comics? Its been damaged/destroyed multiple times

Magical skyfathers.

GA superboy prime can , no one else should, if thor tries wolverine will just make fun of him

wolverine is standing and according to this thread has to give thor a free shot, thor is charging his blow then try to punch wolverine but logan is just turning his head to the left makes thor miss, thor is all enraged screaming " this is a free shot logan!!!! i am suppose to hit you and you suppose to stand still", logan is like ok sorry... thor charges another punch and again wolverine is moving his head to the right and laughing at thor, thor is like " i am suppose to hit you damiittttt!!! you want me to bring my hammer??? you want a hammer????? stand still you coward"
wolverine: its not my fault you are so slow even at MVC3 you are slow as hell
this continues all day long until thor use his lightning powers and wolverine keeps laughing at how slow and clumzy thor is

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
King thor, odin, zeus, the serpent all have pwned adamantium through sheer power before so no all of those guys have one thing in common: magic

None of them are one shotting Wolvy but I can see that attack that Thor used against Nul knocking him out though.

^Wolverines tough but he ain't that tough.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The only people I can see one shotting Wolverine are Thor, Superman, Hulk, and Prime.
This sounds about right

Originally posted by The Sorrow
^Wolverines tough but he ain't that tough.


This sounds about right

He is pretty much that tough and if Rage statement is true, then you might as well include Juggernaut, Gladiator, and Black Adam.

Wolverine took multiple of hits from WWH...WWH imo punch harder than anyone on that list '(and this was proven in the punching contest thread). If Wolverine can take repeated shots from WWH, none of these people are dropping him in a single hit. Maybe Prime could but that's about it.

Unharmed Thor certainly can't. The only two top tiers capable of doing so -that come to my mind in this moment- are Superman (not holding back) and Hulk (as seen in the Dark Dimension), every other standard herald powerset is not enough to conclusively dent adamantium.

But they can ko Wolverine, if they get lucky.

Originally posted by Bentley
Unharmed Thor certainly can't. The only two top tiers capable of doing so -that come to my mind in this moment- are Superman (not holding back) and Hulk (as seen in the Dark Dimension), every other standard herald powerset is not enough to conclusively dent adamantium.

But they can ko Wolverine, if they get lucky.

Like I said before, if you are including Superman in this, you might as well include Thor (someone who has busted through Celestial armor, ripped through Galactus dome piece and created a hit so powerful that it resembled the big bang), Gladiator (a true planet buster, someone who has one shotted Heralds, and someone that was about to punch a being from Earth into the core of the sun), and Black Adam (a true high end team wrecker and is as strong or possibly "stronger" than Superman).

To bad none of them are one shotting Wolvy.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before, if you are including Superman in this, you might as well include Thor (someone who has busted through Celestial armor, ripped through Galactus dome piece and created a hit so powerful that it resembled the big bang), Gladiator (a true planet buster, someone who has one shotted Heralds, and someone that was about to punch a being from Earth into the core of the sun), and Black Adam (a true high end team wrecker and is as strong or possibly "stronger" than Superman).

To bad none of them is one shotting Wolvy.

Thor doing all that using weapons, the planet being of undefined mass and Superman destroying teams more often than BA could ever dream of... Not to mention your willing ignorance of Kal's superior feats.

Superman is physically stronger than all those you mentioned, that's why he's an elite herald with his relatively simply powerset and his weaknesses. Strength is his thing.

Unless you mean reboot Supes

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine has relatively human level durability. He can take a punch from a guy who can one shot a meteorite twice the size of the earth. Even if someone was 100000000000000000000000 million times stronger then the Hulk, it would be mathematically impossible for them to do more damage to someone with baseline human durability. The damage is has already plateaued. Hulk could flail his arms wildly the shock front would and turn all Wolverine's muscles and organs into mulch. We've been told in narration bubbles that single punch from the Hulk liquifies all of Wolverine's organs. You can't really get more damaging then that. If that doesn't one shot him... what do you think will?

Impossible to one shot.

Let's say Thor charges Mjolnir and then throws it at 2x lightspeed, would that ko Wolverine ?

Originally posted by Bentley
Thor doing all that using weapons, the planet being of undefined mass and Superman destroying teams more often than BA could ever dream of... Not to mention your willing ignorance of Kal's superior feats.

Superman is physically stronger than all those you mentioned, that's why he's an elite herald with his relatively simply powerset and his weaknesses. Strength is his thing.

Unless you mean reboot Supes

Sigh*

Originally posted by carver9
Sigh*





You sight at me


I would be mad if it wasn't so cute 131

I think many of us have different definitions of "one-shot." Yes, Superman/Hulk/BlackAdam/etc would beat the shit out of Wolverine in a fight. No one denies that.

But with one hit? That isn't quite how his powers work.

Originally posted by carver9
He is pretty much that tough and if Rage statement is true, then you might as well include Juggernaut, Gladiator, and Black Adam.

Wolverine took multiple of hits from WWH...WWH imo punch harder than anyone on that list '(and this was proven in the punching contest thread). If Wolverine can take repeated shots from WWH, none of these people are dropping him in a single hit. Maybe Prime could but that's about it.
Hulk hits harder than Juggernaut or Black Adam. In WWH they clearly weren't anywhere close to all out punches, he seemed more intent on teaching Wolverine a lesson than anything else. Savage Hulk has almost knocked Wolverine out in one punch.

Wolverine has taken hits from Thor, WWH, Savage Hulk, an enraged Grey Hulk, Wendigo, Sasquash, Gladiator, Sentry, Wonderman (who was described as being capable of hitting as hard as Sentry), Juggernaut, Hercules, Namor, Rulk and the list goes on.

Non of these people one shotted him and to think that other top tiers could is basically being delusional.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I think many of us have different definitions of "one-shot." Yes, Superman/Hulk/BlackAdam/etc would beat the shit out of Wolverine in a fight. No one denies that.

But with one hit? That isn't quite how his powers work.


Hulk destroyed a planetoid from the collateral damage of one of his punches. A single punch by the way.

Superman has been doing feats like those through all his career.

Prime retcons Logan.

The rest can't dent adamantium with a single hit, but Wolverine can be rendered unconscious by much less. If he's not allowed to move, every class 100 should ko him, if he is, just the afore mentioned and speedblitzers can take him.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine has taken hits from Thor, WWH, Savage Hulk, an enraged Grey Hulk, Wendigo, Sasquash, Gladiator, Sentry, Wonderman (who was described as being capable of hitting as hard as Sentry), Juggernaut, Hercules, Namor, Rulk and the list goes on.

Non of these people one shotted him and to think that other top tiers could is basically being delusional.


It depends on whether or not he can move to defend. I'd say that at least some part of Logan's amazing resistance is because he's skilled and rolls with the punches of his opponests. If the faster ones -such as Glads or Superman- speedblitz him, I don't think Logan would do as well.

Among the herald levelers I only see Kal and Hulk hiting hard enough to damage his adamantium skeleton, and only if they go all out.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk hits harder than Juggernaut or Black Adam. In WWH they clearly weren't anywhere close to all out punches, he seemed more intent on teaching Wolverine a lesson than anything else. Savage Hulk has almost knocked Wolverine out in one punch.

I agree, Hulk by far is the hardest hitter on that list and he failed to one shot Wolverine. There was nothing stated that he wasn't trying to ko Wolverine (even though we both know he was holding back his power). Honestly, I see that version of Hulk in another tier strength wise than anyone on the list (even though again, he held back the entire arc).

Originally posted by Bentley
Hulk destroyed a planetoid from the collateral damage of one of his punches. A single punch by the way.

Superman has been doing feats like those through all his career.
Just curious but when has Superman ever done this since COIE?

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine has taken hits from Thor, WWH, Savage Hulk, an enraged Grey Hulk, Wendigo, Sasquash, Gladiator, Sentry, Wonderman (who was described as being capable of hitting as hard as Sentry), Juggernaut, Hercules, Namor, Rulk and the list goes on.

Non of these people one shotted him and to think that other top tiers could is basically being delusional.

Could Thor one shot Wolverine, if he charged Mjolnir and then threw it at 2x lightspeed?

Originally posted by Bentley
It depends on whether or not he can move to defend. I'd say that at least some part of Logan's amazing resistance is because he's skilled and rolls with the punches of his opponests. If the faster ones -such as Glads or Superman- speedblitz him, I don't think Logan would do as well.

Among the herald levelers I only see Kal and Hulk hiting hard enough to damage his adamantium skeleton, and only if they go all out.

Bently, I'm not going to go through this with you Bently. Bring up the "punching thread" if you would like to discuss this.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Just curious but when has Superman ever done this since COIE?


Not the same feats, just the same kind of stupid feats, such as lifting infinite weight, resisting black holes etc.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Could Thor one shot Wolverine, if he charged Mjolnir and then threw it at 2x lightspeed?

Possibly...

This could one shot him as well.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6373/thorvshulkandthing7.jpg

Originally posted by Bentley
Hulk destroyed a planetoid from the collateral damage of one of his punches. A single punch by the way.

Superman has been doing feats like those through all his career.

Prime retcons Logan.

The rest can't dent adamantium with a single hit, but Wolverine can be rendered unconscious by much less. If he's not allowed to move, every class 100 should ko him, if he is, just the afore mentioned and speedblitzers can take him.
So you equate "one-shot" with a "KO?"

Hulk has already failed to "one-shot" Wolverine btw. Can Hulk KO Wolverine? Hell yes. Can Hulk one-shot Wolverine? Doubtful.

You don't even have to be class 100 to KO Wolverine. He doesn't have much more than human durability. It's his healing factor + skeleton that forces strong characters to hit him multiple times before getting the KO.

As I said, regular Supes and Hulk would fail to one-shot Wolvie. Only non-holding back versions could dent Adamantium.

The rest of my pace I said it a few posts ago, that Logan can be koed, depending on circumstances, etc.

Originally posted by carver9
Possibly...

This could one shot him as well.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6373/thorvshulkandthing7.jpg

Thank you

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
do you read alot of comics? Its been damaged/destroyed multiple times I was about to reply to this post but then I realised it was you who quoted me.

Originally posted by Bentley
As I said, regular Supes and Hulk would fail to one-shot Wolvie. Only non-holding back versions could dent Adamantium.

The rest of my pace I said it a few posts ago, that Logan can be koed, depending on circumstances, etc.
Oh, I wasn't trying to be argumentative. I'm just trying to see if people mean "KO" when they say "one-shot."

I agree. Wolverine can be KOed. Someone like Superman wouldn't have any trouble doing so. I just think that "one-shotting" him with a standard physical attack is extraordinarily unlikely.

Originally posted by cdtm
Basically, he's saying anytime Wolverines been hit by a mid to high end brick, ever, his insides turn to jelly and insta heal while retaining consciousness, and that's as much damage as anyone could ever do to him.

So, say, Thing hits him hard, his insides liquify, heal in seconds, and he's fine and never loses consciousness.

Lobo hits him hard, his insides liquify, heal in seconds, and he's fine.

Validus hits him, yadda yadda yadda.

Pre Crisis Omega...... same deal.

A ridiculous argument, imo, but that's about the jist of it.

You disagree with my conclusion but how do you rectify the facts I used to reach it? You can't. Wolverine doesn't get put down by shots that flat line him and turn all his organs into soup. What do you feel that any of these guys bring to the table that is so much more damaging that he would be unable to heal from? Short of hitting him so hard that he and his skeleton are incinerated, he has been as damaged as he could every possibly be based on his relative durability and kept coming.

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(I'm kidding)

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I was about to reply to this post but then I realised it was you who quoted me.

Now that's just mean true but mean.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You disagree with my conclusion but how do you rectify the facts I used to reach it? You can't. Wolverine doesn't get put down by shots that flat line him and turn all his organs into soup. What do you feel that any of these guys bring to the table that is so much more damaging that he would be unable to heal from? Short of hitting him so hard that he and his skeleton are incinerated, he has been as damaged as he could every possibly be based on his relative durability and kept coming.


Could Thor one shot Wolverine, if he charged Mjolnir and then threw it at 2x lightspeed?

Other then the first appearance where Thor's strongest blow was only able to slightly dent Adamantium, all examples of Adamantium being destroyed / damaged were either the cheaper Secondary Adamantium, or accomplished with magic, matter manip, and the rest were examples of from non-canon alt realities.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Other then the first appearance where Thor's strongest blow was only able to slightly dent Adamantium, all examples of Adamantium being destroyed / damaged were either the cheaper Secondary Adamantium, or accomplished with magic, matter manip, and the rest were examples of from non-canon alt realities. Do you consider Caps shield > prime ada?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Other then the first appearance where Thor's strongest blow was only able to slightly dent Adamantium, all examples of Adamantium being destroyed / damaged were either the cheaper Secondary Adamantium, or accomplished with magic, matter manip, and the rest were examples of from non-canon alt realities.


The Guardians are from a divergent reality though.

I don't see anyone under Herald tier dropping him with one punch. He's simply too tough. This of course is an on average estimate.

Originally posted by Bentley
The Guardians are from a divergent reality though.

Wolverine cut through Captain America's shield in a divergent 616 reality where he remained brain washed by Hydra. If it isn't in the pages of the actual 616 reality, consequences no longer matter, and nothing can be taken at face value.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Do you consider Caps shield > prime ada?

Cap's shield absorbs mechanical energy so it is much more versatile, but Prime Adamantium is probably a bit more durable.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine cut through Captain America's shield in a divergent 616 reality where he remained brain washed by Hydra. If it isn't in the pages of the actual 616 reality, consequences no longer matter, and nothing can be taken at face value.


I was not aware of that, though I would be inclined to ask who confirmed that it was an actual divergence.

Originally posted by Bentley
I was not aware of that, though I would be inclined to ask who confirmed that it was an actual divergence.

The concept of the issue was What If Wolverine remained brain washed by Hydra and the Hand in Enemy of the State, and there was panels from the actual story in the issue ergo up to at least the point when Wolverine engaged the X-Men in EotS that the universe would have been the same and then splintered off into the reality shown in the issue.

I can't participate in a thread that has this many people and yet doesn't have Thanos in it... That is not only insulting but invalidates the list... BTW.. Thanos would

I wanted a list full of people known primarily for their physical prowess.