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Batman failed. Who could do it without powers?

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w/out powers

guy222

The Question?


Originally posted by guy222
w/out powers

guy222




He said no powers cheater.

Dr. Doom.

Dr. Dedalus

Originally posted by JakeTheBank Dr. Doom.

with no powers? i dobt even he could do it. dedalus had every trick in the book. holograms, mazes. toxins, etc... and the man wasnt even in his prime and made bruce look like a chump.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
with no powers? i dobt even he could do it. dedalus had every trick in the book. holograms, mazes. toxins, etc... and the man wasnt even in his prime and made bruce look like a chump.

Doom > Bruce Wayne.

True story. biscuits

Originally posted by JakeTheBank Doom > Bruce Wayne. True story. biscuits

in general, yes, but not as a detective. i dont see doom seeing past the holgrams or enduring the toxins. remember, dedalus was taking down supers in his prime. beings smarter and more formidable than batgod.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
i dont see doom enduring the toxins. wrong

Originally posted by Prep-Man
in general, yes, but not as a detective. i dont see doom seeing past the holgrams or enduring the toxins. remember, dedalus was taking down supers in his prime. beings smarter and more formidable than batgod.

Doom's armor, bro.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Question?





He said no powers cheater.



group

Dr Doom....



....would fail.

Get at me Jake and Mindset, get at me.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank Doom's armor, bro.

sorry, no outside aid or powers. batman had some form of aid, but it eventually failed, iirc. in terms of wits, doom might be able to, but im not convinced he can do it for a majority.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
sorry, no outside aid or powers. batman had some form of aid, but it eventually failed, iirc. in terms of wits, doom might be able to, but im not convinced he can do it for a majority.

Doom's armor is as standard equipment to him as is Batman's utility belt. I'm obviously not counting Doom's sorcery.

In terms of wits, Doom is superior to Bruce pretty handily.

Even without the armor I'm pretty sure Doom would do better against toxins.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


In terms of wits, Doom is superior to Bruce pretty handily. how so?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Even without the armor I'm pretty sure Doom would do better against toxins. not sure if it counts but doom willed past purple man's chemically induced will sapping power, and that guy is one of the most effective manipulators in comics (under herald)

Originally posted by Starscream M
how so?

Intelligence, problem solving, calculation speed, etc.

Batman's only edge is really in detective work. If Doom ever devoted himself to that field, he'd one up Bruce once more.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not sure if it counts but doom willed past purple man's chemically induced will sapping power, and that guy is one of the most effective manipulators in comics (under herald) That was the example that lead me to believe he also could resist toxins tbh.

Kingpin has done the same, depends on what time period he did that as PM has received upgrades

That's 'cause Kingpin is da bawse

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Intelligence, problem solving, calculation speed, etc.
you're just listing things...what is the actual evidence that doom is actually superior to batman in any of those areas?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That's 'cause Kingpin is da bawse not as bawse as doom: Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Doom also withstands the Purple Man's mind-powers in Emperor Doom. Purple Man, before Zemo upgraded his powers, was even able to influence Nate Grey's mind. Captain America couldn't even escape Purple Man's power, but Doom did:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomWill02EmperorDoom1.jpg

Originally posted by Starscream M
you're just listing things...what is the actual evidence that doom is actually superior to batman in any of those areas?

His feats, of course.

Doom mentally operates on a level safely above Batman. Not much room, if any, left open for debate, actually.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not as bawse as doom:

That's pretty old PM, hes gotten stronger since then

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His feats, of course.

Doom mentally operates on a level safely above Batman. Not much room, if any, left open for debate, actually. lol...why you smug sanctimonious little punk...I happen to disagree with you. I think batman's at least equal to doom in intellect, he just applies it in different ways.

i recall doom being caught off guard from a hologram type tech. the labyrinth works beyond intellect.

Deadpool would get through, actually I'm convinced that the labyritnth would spit him out after 5 minutes.

Originally posted by Starscream M
lol...why you smug sanctimonious little punk...I happen to disagree with you. I think batman's at least equal to doom in intellect, he just applies it in different ways.

Lol? I'm not being smug or sanctimonious at all. It's just the reality of the situation. Batman's a good, if not great, jack-of-all-trades. He's the World's Greatest Detective.

But intellectually, he falls several steps behind Doom. You can disagree, if you like, but feats and comics ultimately support my stance.

jake is right. the only beings in the dcu that could go toe to toe with doom or reed in intellect is alexander luthor or brainiac 5. bruce is not one of them. right, jake?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
jake is right. the only beings in the dcu that could go toe to toe with doom or reed in intellect is alexander luthor or brainiac 5. bruce is not one of them. right, jake?

Pretty much.

Some of DC's Earth's resident scientists could make things interesting, but Doom (and that blasted Richards) are a step above them, imho.

Bruce is definitely not on the same level.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank Pretty much. Some of DC's Earth's resident scientists could make things interesting, but Doom (and that blasted Richards) are a step above them, imho. Bruce is definitely not on the same level.

the only 2 super geniuses that stand a chance are the chief (who was responsible breaking the 4th wall, bringing elasti girl from the dead, etc...) and TO Morrow. who descovered tesseract tech when he was 12 and built time machines.

b5 isnt on earth so he doesnt count.

Mr. Miracle?

Originally posted by Stoic
Mr. Miracle?

scott could get through. hes a master with that stuff.

Metron would pwn doom.

I'm curious how well ol Ozymandias would fair lol

Joker.