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No BFR
Bloodlust On
Doom gets 30 seconds of prep

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All about the magic. Leaning Superman with BL on, but a lot of variables here. If Doom leads with magic, and the writer is one who believes strongly in the weakness, Supes might have a rough day.

Superman wins.

Spite thread

Superman floors him

Supes is no SENTRY. Doomie summons a magic blade and makes shish-ke-kal out of superman.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Supes is no SENTRY. Doomie summons a magic blade and makes shish-ke-kal out of superman.

blahahahahahaha
dommie be fried rice sun dipped

Doom

Doom Ovoid mind swaps.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doom Ovoid mind swaps.
Yeah, because stuff like that is so successful on superman.

And it has worked successfully for Doom in the past.

As a switcheroo, how about you show examples of it failing to work when Doom tries it?

Who is the most resistant character Doom has swapped mind with?

Superman stomps. Doom has no Knite.

Doom, hard.

Superman

Doom gets a sun dip and it doesn't amp him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Doom, hard.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Prep, magical weakness, smarter, more cunning. Bye bye man of steel.

Superman obviously

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prep, magical weakness, smarter, more cunning. Bye bye man of steel.
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Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff314/DerMeister2040/emoticons/hysterical.gif If a Fatlantean can rock Superman why can't Doom ?

Doom wins. All he needs to do in those 30 seconds is charge his shield with offensive magic. Battle starts - Superman runs into Doom's shield - Superman dies.

Superman wins if he really wants to take Doom out.

Doom

Superman

30 second ls prolly more than enough time for doom to conjure up some serious shit with magic.

How the **** doom knows about supes weakness to magic?

Superman could just range attack with heat vision and freeze breath. I bet Doom wouldn't expect a vortex to hit him.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
How the **** doom knows about supes weakness to magic? Wikipedia.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
How the **** doom knows about supes weakness to magic? He doesn't need to, he uses magic anyway.

Also:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wikipedia.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
How the **** doom knows about supes weakness to magic? I'd to think that anything you know about would fall under common knowledge.

But if he doesn't know about his magic weakness he won't summon a super duper magic shit from the start, and superman weakness isn't very consistent on its extent.

Supes knows his weaknesses and opponents strengths, im sure he would go with ranged attacks rather than charge into a magic shield

Originally posted by Reflassshh
But if he doesn't know about his magic weakness he won't summon a super duper magic shit from the start, and superman weakness isn't very consistent on its extent. Of course he would.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I'd to think that anything you know about would fall under common knowledge. lol

Originally posted by Firefly218
Supes knows his weaknesses and opponents strengths, im sure he would go with ranged attacks rather than charge into a magic shield This

Originally posted by Reflassshh
How the **** doom knows about supes weakness to magic? The same way nearly ever supervillain that's used magic against Superman knows. They heard about it and/or they discover it immediately during a fight.

If Doom is not told who he is up against with prep he will prepare for worst case scenario. That being said his magic could possibly give him a lucky win or two but superman takes the solid majority. Doom is a really exquisite character-I just purchased the new sideshow exclusive with the embroidered armor that's 35 pounds lol

Originally posted by Reflassshh
But if he doesn't know about his magic weakness he won't summon a super duper magic shit from the start, and superman weakness isn't very consistent on its extent.

Because Doom is known for his mercy and subtlety, right?

Originally posted by Firefly218
Supes knows his weaknesses and opponents strengths, im sure he would go with ranged attacks rather than charge into a magic shield

The shield doesn't only stop physical damage -.-

Doom's shields can tank Johnnie's supernova, which is more or less about the same heat as Superman's heat vision. The heat vision bounces off Victor's shield while he proceeds to charge some spell that one shots supes.

Or he just goes xX_H4X_Xx and uses ovid mind switch, leaving him a nice new Kryptonian body to play around in.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prep, magical weakness, smarter, more cunning. Bye bye man of steel.


30 seconds prep jesus quanchi.smarter? not really superman is as smart as they come he just isn't acostumed to planning things out he leaves that to batman. Doom could win with A lot of prep but not 30 seconds. But then again you know that you just hate D.C. P


As far as supes weakness to magic its overrated. This isn't PC supes were talking about here.

Originally posted by zeel
smarter? not really superman is as smart as they come he just isn't acostumed to planning things out he leaves that to batman.

Did you just seriously compare Supermans intelligence to the one of Doctor Doom? Like seriously?

Doctor Doom is smarter than Superman and Batman combined.
Doctor Doom has built a Heaven Breacher - in order to get his dead mother back... if Batman only had half of Doctor Dooms intelligence he would have revived his parents long time ago and ended all the crime in Gotham City during his first night out.

Superman - who is smarter than Batman - still can't compare with Doctor Doom. Hell, in my opinion not even Reed Richards can, due to Dooms additional knowledge about sorcery, which lets him do things Reed Richards can't do.

On topic:

Superman is outclassed. In 30 seconds Doom could do a lot of shit like summoning some of his devices and using them against Superman. He has taken out far bigger opponents.

In order to beat Doctor Doom... Superman would have to go all Super Saiyan and transform into the Sentry. With that needed over 9000 power upgrade he would be able to compete with Doom... otherwise just LOL @ this topic!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
How the **** doom knows about supes weakness to magic?

Super is not magical which Doom would deduce in about three seconds.

Originally posted by zeel
As far as supes weakness to magic its overrated. This isn't PC supes were talking about here. DCnU Superman's resistance to magic is almost as bad. It's to the point where magic that doesn't even bother Batman, dehabilitates Superman.

Originally posted by zeel
30 seconds prep jesus quanchi.smarter? not really superman is as smart as they come he just isn't acostumed to planning things out he leaves that to batman. Doom could win with A lot of prep but not 30 seconds. But then again you know that you just hate D.C. P


As far as supes weakness to magic its overrated. This isn't PC supes were talking about here.

Yeah, really.

Originally posted by ODG
DCnU Superman's resistance to magic is almost as bad. It's to the point where magic that doesn't even bother Batman, dehabilitates Superman.

Ask He Man's sword about Kal's weakness.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Ask He Man's sword about Kal's weakness. Not sure how much that had to do with magic...

Yet superman took captain marvel's magically charged punches without any problem. But yeah, go by the lowest showings. Doom wouldn't like that one bit. Also that batman showing was due to a magical being draining him.

In character- Doom takes this.

His Force Fields can tank Thor Class damage.
Superman would need to blitz all-out to drop it fast.
And Supes would not do that until he is certain that such a brutal offensive would not kill his opponent.
Mental limitations are just as valid as power limitations; and Superman's actions are limited by his own moral compass.

Put simply- Superman will fight like Superman. Not like we would fight if we had access to Superman's powers.

That said- Doom's armor can scan a Herald Class being in record time and analyze alien energy signatures like Rain Man at a Casino.

I see Clark diving in and giving Doom's FF some grief.
But I see the FF holding for a bit.

And a bit is all that Doom would need to scan Clark's body and know exactly how dependent upon Solar Energy he is.

After that, Doom's Tech is more than capable of draining energy from Clark's body to bring him down a few pegs.
Not a full drain. But enough to take his edge.

After that- Magic is the ultimate equalizer.

Doom was trained in the Arcane Arts by Dr. Strange himself.
And he uses his Tech to super boost his arcane effectiveness.

Even without power-armor, Doom could take on many Super Heroes based his Arcane Arts alone.

Added to his high level of FF defense, Tech energy draining to suck the Solar out of Supes, and standard Power Armor attacks against the now weakened Superman... I see Doom's "near Baron Mordo" level Arcane Magic Blasts being enough to take down the big Blue Boy Scout.

I'm going to say that Doom is likely to win the first fight.
In a random encounter- Dr. Doom ftw.

BUT-

In a second encounter, when Supes knows what he is up against, I can see a powerful speed blitz at max power being enough to break down Doom's basic Force Field before Victor has a chance to bust out the Arcane Mojo.

First fight- Doom takes it.
Revenge Match- Supes takes it.

Overall- Roughly on par. These two would make outstanding rogues for each other.

Originally posted by zeel
30 seconds prep jesus quanchi.smarter? not really superman is as smart as they come he just isn't acostumed to planning things out he leaves that to batman. Doom could win with A lot of prep but not 30 seconds. But then again you know that you just hate D.C. P


As far as supes weakness to magic its overrated. This isn't PC supes were talking about here. I do agree he leaves the thinking to Batman. He rides his brains coattails. Doom always uses his brain. Super relies on his natural powers. Doom is shrewder, more cunning, and has magic which spells Doom for the orphan from Krypton.

Doom is just another Luthor and will go down.

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Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Doom is just another Luthor and will go down. It's nice when posters let you know that they don't read comics.

I get that Doom can, and will at times win (if not a majority), but seriously, the lowballing in this thread is getting ridiculous.

Cut it out, please.

And yes, I mean on both sides.

Originally posted by jaxthejester
In character- Doom takes this.

His Force Fields can tank Thor Class damage.
Superman would need to blitz all-out to drop it fast.
And Supes would not do that until he is certain that such a brutal offensive would not kill his opponent.
Mental limitations are just as valid as power limitations; and Superman's actions are limited by his own moral compass.

Put simply- Superman will fight like Superman. Not like we would fight if we had access to Superman's powers.

That said- Doom's armor can scan a Herald Class being in record time and analyze alien energy signatures like Rain Man at a Casino.

I see Clark diving in and giving Doom's FF some grief.
But I see the FF holding for a bit.

And a bit is all that Doom would need to scan Clark's body and know exactly how dependent upon Solar Energy he is.

After that, Doom's Tech is more than capable of draining energy from Clark's body to bring him down a few pegs.
Not a full drain. But enough to take his edge.

After that- Magic is the ultimate equalizer.

Doom was trained in the Arcane Arts by Dr. Strange himself.
And he uses his Tech to super boost his arcane effectiveness.

Even without power-armor, Doom could take on many Super Heroes based his Arcane Arts alone.

Added to his high level of FF defense, Tech energy draining to suck the Solar out of Supes, and standard Power Armor attacks against the now weakened Superman... I see Doom's "near Baron Mordo" level Arcane Magic Blasts being enough to take down the big Blue Boy Scout.

I'm going to say that Doom is likely to win the first fight.
In a random encounter- Dr. Doom ftw.

BUT-

In a second encounter, when Supes knows what he is up against, I can see a powerful speed blitz at max power being enough to break down Doom's basic Force Field before Victor has a chance to bust out the Arcane Mojo.

First fight- Doom takes it.
Revenge Match- Supes takes it.

Overall- Roughly on par. These two would make outstanding rogues for each other.

Via the full capacity rule Superman can blitz. It's a viable tactic. Calling it out of character depends entirely on the situation. If Superman is angry and trying to win a fight (not just trying to stop a bank robber) then it makes sense. Within the rules of a forum fight, he's aware he's fighting and he's trying to win. He doesn't think he's just trying to protect metropolis or something.

Originally posted by ODG
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Doom get his time machine, goes back in time, kills Ma and Pa Kent and adopts Kal-El and turns him into an unstoppable killing machine.