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Which team wins?

Ganymede...hmm havent seen a thread with her name in awhile. Shes like wonder woman lite. Her ability or lack thereof will determine this battle. Going with team 2 for now

firestorm solos.

firestorm is just as bad as captain atom or monarch. if he gets ruptured, game over:
https://s3.postimg.org/vwrktbmhv/image.jpg
https://s3.postimg.org/gck72scdf/image.jpg


so yeah jack and gany win. dc's energy based chars. aren't all they are cracked up to be.

IMHO, T1 has the raw power advantage but has no answer to FS's transmutation powers.

Originally posted by john allerdyce
firestorm is just as bad as captain atom or monarch. if he gets ruptured, game over:
https://s3.postimg.org/vwrktbmhv/image.jpg
https://s3.postimg.org/gck72scdf/image.jpg


so yeah jack and gany win. dc's energy based chars. aren't all they are cracked up to be.

Didnt JOH have issues with containing his energies as well?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Didnt JOH have issues with containing his energies as well?
Yes.

Jack isn't all that durable. Not if White Tiger was kicking his butt with kung fu fighting (And only the strength of three men.)

Originally posted by john allerdyce
firestorm is just as bad as captain atom or monarch. if he gets ruptured, game over:

so yeah jack and gany win. dc's energy based chars. aren't all they are cracked up to be. Crikey, we are discussing Jason here. Not Ronnie.

With *that* in mind, Jason learned to control his internal energies better than Ronnie ever could. In fact, Shadow Thief attempted to kill Jason in the exact same way he killed Ronnie in that ridiculous scene you posted -- only to find out that Jason is a completely different animal:
http://i.imgur.com/h1HCKcYm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UolVivIm.jpg


On that note, what people often seem to forget is that Jason merged with Professor Stein(the same guy Ronnie was merged with):
http://i.imgur.com/UdzfGon.jpg

However, their merger occurred after Stein had returned from his yearS-long voyage across the universe. During his time off-planet, Stein gleaned massive knowledge on a truly cosmic scale -- the secrets of the universe, as it were:
http://i.imgur.com/nARGEg5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tR45j6W.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xONLI7Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BNO1xTY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/D1miXoj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FC8zNNY.jpg

Additionally, Stein's vast knowledge allowed him to master the Firestorm Matrix, thus giving Jason greater access to its infinite power:
http://i.imgur.com/3iOZztK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Bh6SSFo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/emeHWjj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oP3ybvV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Up9ppgE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4C3xxOU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yma8Yay.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CnUGvPu.jpg
*So not only was Jason infinitely smarter than Ronnie(thanks to Stein, of course), but he also had infinitely more raw power at his disposal(thanks to Stein, of course.)

That's also why Jason's detonation(when the Matrix itself destabilized) would have destroyed the entire universe -- hell Stein likened his cumulative energies to that of the Big Bang itself:
http://i.imgur.com/Uxhr0uQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DVpptch.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3NoCpli.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fMqzhJl.jpg
...Which is a pretty sharp contrast to the damage Ronnie's detonation caused.



Aside from all of that, a PIS-free Jason getting killed via stabby-stabs also doesn't factor-in his intangibility:
http://i.imgur.com/tckwrId.jpg



But hey, what do I know..?

Yeah, team 2, FTW. Jason likely solos.

The fight pretty much rests on Jason's shoulders anyway. I mean, it's not like Aquaman is going to do anything of value...








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Originally posted by Galan007
Crikey, we are discussing Jason here. Not Ronnie.

With *that* in mind, Jason learned to control his internal energies better than Ronnie ever could. In fact, Shadow Thief attempted to kill Jason in the exact same way he killed Ronnie in that ridiculous scene you posted -- only to find out that Jason is a completely different animal:
http://i.imgur.com/h1HCKcYm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UolVivIm.jpg


On that note, what people often seem to forget is that Jason merged with Professor Stein(the same guy Ronnie was merged with):
http://i.imgur.com/UdzfGon.jpg

However, their merger occurred after Stein had returned from his yearS-long voyage across the universe. During his time off-planet, Stein gleaned massive knowledge on a truly cosmic scale -- the secrets of the universe, as it were:
http://i.imgur.com/nARGEg5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tR45j6W.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xONLI7Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BNO1xTY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/D1miXoj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FC8zNNY.jpg

Additionally, Stein's vast knowledge allowed him to master the Firestorm Matrix, thus giving Jason greater access to its infinite power:
http://i.imgur.com/3iOZztK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Bh6SSFo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/emeHWjj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oP3ybvV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Up9ppgE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4C3xxOU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yma8Yay.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CnUGvPu.jpg
*So not only was Jason infinitely smarter than Ronnie(thanks to Stein, of course), but he also had infinitely more raw power at his disposal(thanks to Stein, of course.)

That's also why Jason's detonation(when the Matrix itself destabilized) would have destroyed the entire universe -- hell Stein likened his cumulative energies to that of the Big Bang itself:
http://i.imgur.com/Uxhr0uQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DVpptch.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3NoCpli.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fMqzhJl.jpg
...Which is a pretty sharp contrast to the damage Ronnie's detonation caused.



Aside from all of that, a PIS-free Jason getting killed via stabby-stabs also doesn't factor-in his intangibility:
http://i.imgur.com/tckwrId.jpg



But hey, what do I know..? wow thx. I honestly had no idea there was such a difference between ron and Jason. in reference to the big bang scans you posted, didn't jason end up destroying the universe at the end of Brightest Day? seems like i remember the issue fading to black and jason in a black void.

I wanted to beat two skilled fighters Ganymede vs Aquaman and two cosmic types Jack of Hearts vs Firestorm

https://www.google.com/search?q=Jack+of+Hearts+vs&client=tablet-android-sprint-us&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBiImn-YvSAhXhx4MKHSElCogQ_AUIBygB&biw=1024&bih=600#imgrc=hL6ULsJDVSqG-M:

Originally posted by john allerdyce
wow thx. I honestly had no idea there was such a difference between ron and Jason. in reference to the big bang scans you posted, didn't jason end up destroying the universe at the end of Brightest Day? seems like i remember the issue fading to black and jason in a black void. Lol, you're talking about the end of Brightest Day #16. Indeed it was certainly implied that Firestorm detonated and destroyed his universe:
https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527792_5981263.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527795_2828401.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527796_2005174.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527797_7341027.jpg


However, we learned in the following issue that he actually didn't destroy the universe. Instead, he just 'ported to the Anti-Matter universe, and was shrouded within a hive of Shadow Demons:
https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527800_4815710.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527801_2486363.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527802_8094380.jpg



It fooled me at first, too. I remember reading that issue the day it came out, and nearly blowing a load in my pants when I thought FS had been given a feat of that magnitude... Then Johns cock-blocked me the following month.

g007_notamused2

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, you're talking about the end of Brightest Day #16. Indeed it was certainly implied that Firestorm detonated and destroyed his universe:
https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527792_5981263.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527795_2828401.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527796_2005174.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527797_7341027.jpg


However, we learned in the following issue that he actually didn't destroy the universe. Instead, he just 'ported to the Anti-Matter universe, and was shrouded within a hive of Shadow Demons:
https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527800_4815710.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527801_2486363.jpg https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/33527802_8094380.jpg



It fooled me at first, too. I remember reading that issue the day it came out, and nearly blowing a load in my pants when I thought FS had been given a feat of that magnitude... Then Johns cock-blocked me the following month.

g007_notamused2