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Legends Maul
Current Krakoa Storm

Maul has his dark saber

Who wins.

storm should have a pretty huge range advantage. is there a reason she can't just toss him around with wind, or freeze him or just blast him with lightning? i'm not seeing a lot of options for maul here.

I don't know much about the Star Wars folks. Is Maul skilled with ranged Force shenanigans?

He's pretty skilled with throwing his lightsaber, and has the usual ranged force attacks (lightning, which is useless,choke and general TK).

He should be able to choke her to death.

how far would that power extend? i've read a couple maul series, but nothing from legends. was legends more powerful? because based on what i've read and seen in the movie, his range would extend to half and km. and she could put more distance between them easily if needed. also not sure he could choke while being tossed around by a hurricane. i'm open to being wrong, i just haven't seen that level from him. that sounds more like vader level stuff.

Surely if she leaves the battlefield to put more distance she....BFRs herself?

This is all I could remember of his range. It's a simple spear, but a lightsaber should be easy enough to replicate:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZBTNp5bk/RCO025-1476262367.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/zb0gjYvy/RCO026-1476262367.jpg

Thing with Maul is that it's not exactly common for him to use his Force powers right out of the gate... He doesn't typically go around spamming TK and such(like, say, Vader.) He's always been more of an up close and personal(ie. sabers and h2h) kind of guy.

But if Maul goes into this with basic knowledge of Storm's powerset, I'd imagine a TK attack would be far more likely.

has he demonstrated that kind of range?

@ds--i've never assumed characters start at the edges of a bf. i've always assumed a bf is larger. maybe that assumption is wrong? but i have a hard time seeing her getting hot by a spear. she has some great reaction feats that would make that pretty unlikely imo.

i also wonder--if galan's assumption of a tk attack does happen, would storm still have the chance before she is ko'd to call down lightning? i mean if she were about to die, it's viable. storm does have some history of being pretty violent at times.

Originally posted by leonidas
has he demonstrated that kind of range?

@ds--i've never assumed characters start at the edges of a bf. i've always assumed a bf is larger. maybe that assumption is wrong? but i have a hard time seeing her getting hot by a spear. she has some great reaction feats that would make that pretty unlikely imo.

i also wonder--if galan's assumption of a tk attack does happen, would storm still have the chance before she is ko'd to call down lightning? i mean if she were about to die, it's viable. storm does have some history of being pretty violent at times.

I always assumed they were pretty much at the edge of a battlefield, lol. Not so much that a step back is self-BFR, but they won't have loads of space to run backwards either.

My scans were to show range - a lightsaber is (should be?) much lighter than a spear, and he would have far better control over it (being his most practiced with weapon). Debating relative reaction times is another ballgame.

Originally posted by leonidas
has he demonstrated that kind of range? In canon I'm pretty sure most of his 'TK targets' have been relatively close.

that's sort of what i thought too. i still think the range would be too much for him. /shrug

A thrown physical object such as a lightsaber isn't going through Storm's winds. Besides, Storm is accurate enough to destroy the hilt with lightning if Maul tries to push it through with Force.

TK choke would probably be too weak and too slow (at the starting distance) to take her out before she fries Maul with lightning.

Storm 9/10.

Originally posted by Magnon
A thrown physical object such as a lightsaber isn't going through Storm's winds. Besides, Storm is accurate enough to destroy the hilt with lightning if Maul tries to push it through with Force.

TK choke would probably be too weak and too slow (at the starting distance) to take her out before she fries Maul with lightning.
Storm 9/10. what exactly is stopping him from deflecting her lightning?

Originally posted by deathslash
what exactly is stopping him from deflecting her lightning?
Without lightsaber? Lack of power/skill. Yoda is the only force user I've seen that has deflected or blocked lightning. With lightsaber? Distract him with hurricanes/hailstorms/asphyxiation etc. while blasting him with lightning.

And I'm even ignoring her more exotic powers such as manipulating the electric impulses in his brain.

Originally posted by Magnon
Without lightsaber? Lack of power/skill. Yoda is the only force user I've seen that has deflected or blocked lightning. With lightsaber?

Legends continuity has quite the number of people that can absorb/deflect/block lightning. As for Maul, he has at least one feat of straight up tanking lightning. Hell, Maul's weaker brother Savage could also shrug off lightning....

Originally posted by Magnon
Distract him with hurricanes/hailstorms/asphyxiation etc. while blasting him with lightning.

Force barrier largely mitigates the danger of many of those.

Originally posted by Magnon

And I'm even ignoring her more exotic powers such as manipulating the electric impulses in his brain. Doesn't that require concentration? Can she do that in the middle of a fight with Maul choking and flinging her around? Also, speaking of esoteric abilities, Maul can disappear from the perceptions of people entirely.

Here he is against lightning:

https://i.postimg.cc/J0nWj1W3/RCO017-1476263544.jpg

Tbf, that was *just* Nightsister lightning(in SW, the potency of FL varies depending on the power of its user.)

Impressive for sure, but I don't know how it would compare to Storm's lightning.

I'm going to say it's pretty weak compared to Storm's; certainly against her best. But was just to show it may not an automatic one shot

Originally posted by Galan007
Tbf, that was *just* Nightsister lightning(in SW, the potency of FL varies depending on the power of its user.)

Impressive for sure, but I don't know how it would compare to Storm's lightning. Savage Opress was also lifting multiple obelisks while Dooku was zapping him and it's confirmed multiple times that Maul is significantly more powerful/skilled than him.

Indeed.

But there are different levels of FL. For example, Dooku can water down his lightning just enough to torture his target, or he can unleash full power/killing lightning. Given that Dooku was grooming Savage to be his deciple in the scene you mentioned, he was most logically employing the former against him.

That said, Dooku later used his FL against an enraged Savage who was attacking him(so I would assume Dooku would have used at least close to his full power lighting, given the circumstances) and Savage just kept coming. So there is that.

Dooku also used lightning against Maul when he first reappeared, and it was hurting him.

For a point of comparison, the brief burst of FL that Rey used against Kylo during their ship struggle was stated to be "hotter than a sun."

Granted, that's Rey... But it was also the first time she ever manifested FL. So I don't know how it would compare to the FL of a well-seasoned(and powerful) practitioner, like Dooku.

Originally posted by Galan007
For a point of comparison, the brief burst of FL that Rey used against Kylo during their ship struggle was stated to be "hotter than a sun."

Granted, that's Rey... But it was also the first time she ever manifested FL. So I don't know how it would compare to the FL of a well-seasoned(and powerful) practitioner, like Dooku. please don't mention the sequels again. It physically hurts me.

Lol, fair.

Originally posted by deathslash
Force barrier largely mitigates the danger of many of those.

Doesn't that require concentration? Can she do that in the middle of a fight with Maul choking and flinging her around? Also, speaking of esoteric abilities, Maul can disappear from the perceptions of people entirely.
Could a force barrier stop a flash freeze? Flash flood? Her taking the air out his lungs? Her manipulating the pressure in his inner ears, so he can't fight effectively? I'm genuinely asking. I don't know much about him.

If he tries to go invisible, she has AOE attacks.

And at least, from what I'm gathering, he doesn't quite have her range?

i've always liked your.... style.