HOTM Hulk vs Hal Jordan
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Robtard
Jordan traps Hulk in a giant green ball and then catapults Hulk into the Sun.
MrMind
you say that like GL has the speed for it
lawest9
Originally posted by Robtard
Jordan traps Hulk in a giant green ball and then catapults Hulk into the Sun.
Robtard
Originally posted by MrMind
you say that like GL has the speed for it
I know, was mostly just f**king around. Don't think GL could trap HotM Hulk to being with, guy is stupid levels of powerful, he'd just smash through the GL constructs.
While I enjoyed Planet Hulk, I didn't care for WBH, they made him too powerful, imo.
I get that Hulk's supposed to be strength personified, but come on, when he's capable of destroying planets with a fart, just dumb for the character. HotM Hulk was even more dumb.
MrMind
Hal might have the power output
but Hulk would literally tear him apart if he gets his hands on hal
Badabing
Originally posted by Robtard
I know, was mostly just f**king around. Don't think GL could trap HotM Hulk to being with, guy is stupid levels of powerful, he'd just smash through the GL constructs.
While I enjoyed Planet Hulk, I didn't care for WBH, they made him too powerful, imo.
I get that Hulk's supposed to be strength personified, but come on, when he's capable of destroying planets with a fart, just dumb for the character. HotM Hulk was even more dumb. May Lord Carver have mercy on your soul.

Robtard
Carver has broken himself against my walls
carver9
Originally posted by Badabing
May Lord Carver have mercy on your soul.
He's my superior
Stoic
Both sides have to be considered based on real time. Hal has the maneuverability, but this Hulk was a monster. He'd flatten Savage Hulk with a finger flick.
abhilegend
Hal shrinks him down to atom size.
carver9
And Hulk would just grow back. 🤷🏾‍♂️
abhilegend
Scan of Hulk growing from atom size?
steverules_2
Which one is HOTM?
Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by steverules_2
Which one is HOTM?

too many versions of Hulk. HOTM Hulk is the cross dressing one I think.
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by steverules_2
Which one is HOTM?
Heart of the Monster.
Hal beats himself, he doesn't need any help:
https://i.imgur.com/xJup8oA.jpg
abhilegend
That soap is universe level 😎😎
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Scan of Hulk growing from atom size?
I can post scans of him growing while shrunken which is all that's needed here.
Robtard
Atom-sized HoTM Hulk would just beat up Hal one atom at a time from the inside out.
MrMind
Originally posted by Robtard
Atom-sized HoTM Hulk would just beat up Hal one atom at a time from the inside out.
that's a lot of atoms
Robtard
Originally posted by MrMind
that's a lot of atoms HoTM Hulk has limitless stamina
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
I can post scans of him growing while shrunken which is all that's needed here.
No, that's not the same at all.
Philosophía
Originally posted by carver9
I can post scans of him growing while shrunken which is all that's needed here. It's like saying you can post a scan of you having a brain, so that means you have an iq over 90.
That's not how magnitudes work, dum dum.
Booya_69
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hal shrinks him down to atom size.
Scans of hal doing this to a beyond high herald level being.
abhilegend
Originally posted by Booya_69
Scans of hal doing this to a beyond high herald level being.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hal shrinks a golden destroyer, referred as universal destroyer to less than an atom.
https://i.postimg.cc/9RZR6sM4/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ZvL9R364/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/G9PTq0VV/image.jpg
Universal destroyer is a little beyond herald tier I guess.
qwertyuiop1998
Meh, Regardless the title of universal destroyer. The Golden Lantern casually destroyed the moon with one attack. I would say this is pretty good. And Hal could shrink this guy down to sub-atom size
https://ibb.co/cgygXyy
https://ibb.co/bRnKrHq
https://ibb.co/DRCVsMt
Besides, this should be a question of "does Hal's shrinking ability ever shrink a guy who is above herald tier", more like "does Hal has the power to put him against someone above herald tier"
To put it in perspective, does Mxy ever time-stop a guy who is skyfather tier? But if Mxy trying to do this to a skyfather tier character, do you think it would not work?
Booya_69
Originally posted by abhilegend
Universal destroyer is a little beyond herald tier I guess.
Oh it definitely is.

abhilegend
You think Hulk is universal tier?
StiltmanFTW
He's certainly above Hal tier.
Philosophía
Hal boxes him up with giant gloves until he reverts back to Banner.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Universal destroyer is a little beyond herald tier I guess.
Can he shrink Superman?
Philosophía
Reported for derailing the thread, Jar Jar.
Bentley
Reported Carter for derailing
Booya_69
Originally posted by abhilegend
You think Hulk is universal tier?
Unfortunately, I don't.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Can he shrink Superman?

Sin I AM
I always wondered y someone with TK didn't just ping pong Hulk around. It's not like he could stop it
Stoic
Originally posted by Booya_69
Unfortunately, I don't.
That only means that the opinions have gotten to you. This Hulk was as powerful as he needed to be, and lol at the starting distance. As if the Hulk has to stand there and wait for the shrink-o-matic ringo ray to encapsulate him and turn him into a Micronaut. Lol. Like wtf stops him from using planet destroying thunderclaps over and over again. Oh because Hal is phucking winvincible? Come again?
Do I hear a One Shot? Could this possibly be one?
Stoic
Originally posted by abhilegend
How does this hulk has unlimited power?
How do you think that he was ramping up so fast? Did that power come out of thin air?
abhilegend
Originally posted by Stoic
How do you think that he was ramping up so fast? Did that power come out of thin air?
Ramping up fast is supposed to make your power infinite? You know who has literally been said to have infinite power, unlike the Hulk? Flash. Should I treat him as unbeatable now?
carver9
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I always wondered y someone with TK didn't just ping pong Hulk around. It's not like he could stop it
I already posted a scan of Hulk overcoming TK without even trying. It was mentioned that moving Hulk is like shifting a mountain. Comics logic but it is what it is. So no, TK won't work.
DarkSaint85
Why wouldn't it work?
StiltmanFTW
Telekinetics, much like speedsters, are quite useless outside of our forum.
carver9
@Dark
Because Hulk is built different. Blame the comics, not me.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
@Dark
Because Hulk is built different. Blame the comics, not me.
But how do you get that 'ALL TK is useless against Hulk' from that showing?
There are a number of arguments against it, after all.
1. Low showing for Cable. You and I both know these low showings exist in comics. Snakes vs Hulk, for example.
2. Hyperbole. You and I both know these exist in comics - Batwing took an explosion a week later, that was like being punched by God, for example.
3. No limits fallacy. Someone who can lift more than a mountain (assuming the above two points are invalid) can lift Hulk (as per you). Thus, TK DOES work on Hulk, just not 'mountain-level' TK.
carver9
That was Hulk not resisting Cable TK (mountain statement). Him resisting it is a different beast all together. The showing is there, don't know why you're trying to discredit it. You don't do the same for other characters. Anyways, TK wouldn't work, even with a team backing it (remember, Rogue couldn't even lift him off the ground and she was grabbing on to his head trying to fly him up and he resisted).
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
That was Hulk not resisting Cable TK (mountain statement). Him resisting it is a different beast all together. The showing is there, don't know why you're trying to discredit it. You don't do the same for other characters. Anyways, TK wouldn't work, even with a team backing it (remember, Rogue couldn't even lift him off the ground and she was grabbing on to his head trying to fly him up and he resisted).
That's a whole lot of words to say 'I can't refute anything, DS'.
I guess even when resisting, snakes can choke Hulk out (remember, the showings are there), and Batwing can take Thor/TOAA punching him lmao. WW, even when bloodlusted and amped, can't take a weakend Batman out (even with a sucker punch), and Flash is faster than speed.
Besides, did you not say this?
Originally posted by carver9
In my post that you just quoted, I said budge. Again (sigh), if you can't budge something then you can't move it in my opinion. Being unable to budge something means you can not move it. Lifting is a movement, so no, "I", Carver9, do not think Hulk can be lifted unless you have the power to shift a mountain.
I've said this on numerous of occasions.
TK DOES work, you just need mountain+ power to do so, according to you, Carver9.
So to reply to the original point, just use mountain+ TK power levels.
And then, Batwing would just tank it with his body:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A few weeks ago, Cable said shifting Hulk was like shifting a mountain. This week, Fox says a bomb is like being punched by God.
https://i.postimg.cc/vZt51VVZ/19-5.jpg
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Booya_69
Originally posted by Stoic
That only means that the opinions have gotten to you. This Hulk was as powerful as he needed to be, and lol at the starting distance. As if the Hulk has to stand there and wait for the shrink-o-matic ringo ray to encapsulate him and turn him into a Micronaut. Lol. Like wtf stops him from using planet destroying thunderclaps over and over again. Oh because Hal is phucking winvincible? Come again?
Do I hear a One Shot? Could this possibly be one?
Hold on now my guy, I simply questioned if hal can pull off such a feat against an opponent of this caliber. Abhi showed scans of hal doing it to a "universe destroyer"
I haven't really chosen a winner lol. So I take it you think this version of Hulk is a universal threat?
carver9
@Dark...
I'm ignoring your low showings comment since this obviously not a low showing. Also, I literally said Hulk wasn't trying to resist TK and it still didn't work. Him resisting is different. Don't know why you're disputing this when Hulk PHYSICALLY have done some impossible crap his entire career. TK doesn't work.
carver9
Originally posted by Booya_69
Hold on now my guy, I simply questioned if hal can pull off such a feat against an opponent of this caliber. Abhi showed scans of hal doing it to a "universe destroyer"
I haven't really chosen a winner lol. So I take it you think this version of Hulk is a universal threat?
https://ibb.co/HgKYdcR
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
@Dark...
I'm ignoring your low showings comment since this obviously not a low showing. Also, I literally said Hulk wasn't trying to resist TK and it still didn't work. Him resisting is different. Don't know why you're disputing this when Hulk PHYSICALLY have done some impossible crap his entire career. TK doesn't work.
Why isn't it a low showing for Cable?
And then you ignored my other points.
carver9
@Dark...
Why is it a low showing for Cable? Because he couldn't lift Hulk? That's just a good showing for Hulk.
Is it a low showing for Zod that Hal lost against him? Is it a low showing for that universal being thar Hal shrunk? Didn't see you questioning that ft.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Universal destroyer is a little beyond herald tier I guess.
Here you go Saint... question Abhi.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
@Dark...
Why is it a low showing for Cable? Because he couldn't lift Hulk? That's just a good showing for Hulk.
Is it a low showing for Zod that Hal lost against him? Is it a low showing for that universal being thar Hal shrunk? Didn't see you questioning that ft.
Because Cable has lifted Onslaught controlled Hulk before. Rogue has casually lifted 50tons etc.
Moreover, you ignored my other points. Has Batwing taken a punch from God? Not A god, GOD.
AND my last point, which I guess you agree on. Just because Cable failed, doesn't mean others would, does it? Or is Cable the best there is?
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
https://ibb.co/HgKYdcR

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk stomps
Hulk gets stomped.
Adam Grimes
Hal doesn't get stomped.
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