Who can beat Cosmic Comic Spider-Man?

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Test123
The Cosmic Comic allows Spider-Man (and Mysterio) to alter the comic in many different ways and control it however they'd like. The powers include freezing characters in the comic itself (until the reader turns the page), lift up and survive having "all reality inside and outside comics" breaking down on top of him, manipulate the narrative, interact with authors, etc.

https://imgur.com/a/4pF6S4D

So who could beat this character?

Diesldude
Dark Pheonix ?

GalacticStorm
Superboy Prime.

zopzop
WF Mxy.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Diesldude
Dark Pheonix ?

Please pretend you have mispelled it on purpose to piss off GalacticStorm or something.

Diesldude
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Please pretend you have mispelled it on purpose to piss off GalacticStorm or something. would I do that?

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by Diesldude
would I do that?

You wouldnt. You just made a typo wink

StiltmanFTW
I have looked into the future.

Diesldude next typo feats:

- "Zues"

- "Rouge"

- "Osborne"

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I have looked into the future.

Diesldude next typo feats:

- "Zues"

- "Rouge"

- "Osborne"

"Misteek"

laughing

Diesldude
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I have looked into the future.

Diesldude next typo feats:

- "Zues"

- "Rouge"

- "Osborne"
you forgot shitmanFTL

Test123
Originally posted by zopzop
WF Mxy.

Isn't Mxy still bound to the narrative to some extent? How would he overpower a being that controls the plot entirely?

Thinkerer
Stan Lee

Galan007
Originally posted by Test123
How would he overpower a being that controls the plot entirely? On a whim, Mxy gave Calendar Man a derby hat and crossing-out pen, which allowed him to control the narrative/plot of the issue.

I haven't read the Spidey issue, but the meta/4th Wall feats mentioned in the OP certainly don't seem to exceed Mxy's scope.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Diesldude
you forgot shitmanFTL

Already taken. Shitman/Scatman is MrMind's alter ego, try to keep up, Diesnude love

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"Misteek"

laughing

Miss Stake* shifty

https://i.ibb.co/TrzzqHS/3656.jpg

cdtm
Obviously "The Writer" as shown in Animal Man, whether Grant Morrison or whomever.

cdtm
Fables had a group of characters name "Literaries", each an aspect of the writing process. The most powerful outright altered reality by writing it down in a notebook.

Test123
Originally posted by Galan007
On a whim, Mxy gave Calendar Man a derby hat and crossing-out pen, which allowed him to control the narrative/plot of the issue.

I haven't read the Spidey issue, but the meta/4th Wall feats mentioned in the OP certainly don't seem to exceed Mxy's scope.

IIRC Mxy was changing the panels and such with the hat, but the Cosmic Comic allowed Spider-Man to basically do the same stuff, but also showed him the entire history of comics/novels and manga across all of Marvel.

But Mxy also says he can't change too many things because it could mess with Hypertime, the Cosmic Comic basically allows you to rewrite the story entirely.

Test123
Originally posted by cdtm
Obviously "The Writer" as shown in Animal Man, whether Grant Morrison or whomever.

Didn't the writer die to a Beastiamorph or something?

Galan007
Originally posted by Test123
IIRC Mxy was changing the panels and such with the hat, but the Cosmic Comic allowed Spider-Man to basically do the same stuff, but also showed him the entire history of comics/novels and manga across all of Marvel. Mxy can do the same across all of his incarnations and media -- be it TV shows, toys, games, coloring books, etc.

Originally posted by Test123
But Mxy also says he can't change too many things because it could mess with Hypertime, the Cosmic Comic basically allows you to rewrite the story entirely. Mxy can manipulate Hypertime to his whims(such a feat is well within the power of even lower-level Imps, like Qwsp.) However, he generally chooses not to manipulate reality in such a way because he likes to preserve his 3D playground.

cdtm
Originally posted by Test123
Didn't the writer die to a Beastiamorph or something?

Dunno. But if it was written by anyone other then Grant Morrison, writing himself as Grant Morrison, then it doesn't count, because The Writer is a literal self insertion character.


And further, it's literal. If Grant Morrison writes his avatar getting killed, it only killed his avatar. The real writer remains, writing the story.

Test123
Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy can do the same across all of his incarnations and media -- be it TV shows, toys, games, coloring books, etc.

Mxy can manipulate Hypertime to his whims(such a feat is well within the power of even lower-level Imps, like Qwsp.) However, he generally chooses not to manipulate reality in such a way because he likes to preserve his 3D playground.

But Mxy's power varies in his different incarnations, as for Hypertime he has to be careful but the Cosmic Comic lets someone write their own story and end it how they'd like. I don't think Mxy has that same level of narrative control.

Test123
Originally posted by cdtm
Dunno. But if it was written by anyone other then Grant Morrison, writing himself as Grant Morrison, then it doesn't count, because The Writer is a literal self insertion character.


And further, it's literal. If Grant Morrison writes his avatar getting killed, it only killed his avatar. The real writer remains, writing the story.

But the only character is the Writer, not the real Grant Morrison himself, so I can only go off the feats of the Writer, he got writer's block and then ended up getting killed while thinking of what to write next.

cdtm
Originally posted by Test123
But the only character is the Writer, not the real Grant Morrison himself, so I can only go off the feats of the Writer, he got writer's block and then ended up getting killed while thinking of what to write next.

But the original "character": established he was a writer in the real world writing things. Essentially it was Morrison himself speaking to his drawings, and giving his fans a show.


Basically "The Writer" is simply the actual comic book writer. Not a character at all, just a guy doing a job.

You can't really get more omnipotent over the comic medium then that.

Galan007
Originally posted by Test123
But Mxy's power varies in his different incarnations, as for Hypertime he has to be careful but the Cosmic Comic lets someone write their own story and end it how they'd like. I don't think Mxy has that same level of narrative control. Mxy doesn't have to be careful playing with Hypertime; he chooses to be careful. Big difference.

That said, what feats does this "meta" Spidey have? Like I mentioned, I haven't read the issue.

Test123
Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy doesn't have to be careful playing with Hypertime; he chooses to be careful. Big difference.

That said, what feats does this "meta" Spidey have? Like I mentioned, I haven't read the issue.

It's all from "How to Read Comics The Marvel Way" (4 issues), Mysterio also gains access to the Cosmic Comic but Spider-Man was said to have mastered it's use so both of their feats should be usable.

Test123
Originally posted by cdtm
But the original "character": established he was a writer in the real world writing things. Essentially it was Morrison himself speaking to his drawings, and giving his fans a show.


Basically "The Writer" is simply the actual comic book writer. Not a character at all, just a guy doing a job.

You can't really get more omnipotent over the comic medium then that.

But it was a character that was part of a comic book, he would type things in a typewriter and they'd happen, he got killed as he was busy writing stuff.

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