HP Doomsday vs Space Ants

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MrMind
the space ants that enslaved odin takes on doomsday

who wins

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/14/149927/4810250-1993310719-Thor212-14.jpg~original

DarkSaint85
They feed him space gruel and he becomes their slave.

That gruel is Skyfather++ tier.

carver9
Stalemate

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And yet... he is a mere street tier. Superhuman or not (and ignoring the whole 'burst of superhuman speed' thing that he does, he was still able to dance around and kill two beings who were able to kill those space ants. A Low Meta tier character like Daken was effortlessly slaughtering dozens, maybe even hundreds of Asgardian soldiers (he was joking about and having fun whilst doing so):

https://i.postimg.cc/0QYTCsnn/RCO017-1467331584.jpg

I think you are missing the point here. The point being that random Asgardians and their medieval weaponry are nowhere near Odin level, yet were able to bring down 'many ants' with their swords etc.

And at the same time, Daken/Taskmaster are easily the betters of random Asgardians.

So:

Space ants < Random Asgardians <<<<<<Daken/Taskmaster.

Yet same space ants, were able to capture and enslave Odin. You are mentioning Balder, and Volstagg, when nobody here did.

carver9
Daken is a beast.

DarkSaint85
How does he stack against H/P Doomsday, Carv?

carver9
Better than he would against Odin.

DarkSaint85
Nice, nice. But not my question smile

Maybe this will be easier for you - how would he do against those space ants? Considering he was slaughtering loads of Asgardians casually, same Asgardians who were able to kill said ants?

Parmaniac
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How does he stack against H/P Doomsday, Carv? Originally posted by carver9
Stalemate

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by MrMind
the space ants that enslaved odin takes on doomsday

who wins

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/14/149927/4810250-1993310719-Thor212-14.jpg~original

Why HP?

It should be DoS Doomsday.

abhilegend
Where's the dumb one?

Originally posted by ODG
Those space ants have better feats than Doomsday, so... go ahead and make that thread.

But until then, Doomsday gets punched to Jupiter like a b1tch.

crylaugh

darthgoober
I could absolutely be remembering incorrectly(apologies if I am), but wasn't the victory of the space ants specifically attributed to the potency of their weapons and superior numbers? Give a million regular humans herald level weapons and they could eventually bring down any number of ultra powerful beings even though someone like Taskmaster could likely kill dozens of them before they got a chance to capitalize on their 2 big advantages

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by darthgoober
I could absolutely be remembering incorrectly(apologies if I am), but wasn't the victory of the space ants specifically attributed to the potency of their weapons and superior numbers? Give a million regular humans herald level weapons and they could eventually bring down any number of ultra powerful beings even though someone like Taskmaster could likely kill dozens of them before they got a chance to capitalize on their 2 big advantages

That kinda falls over if you're one of the top tier (if not the top) Skyfather in all of comics, capable of shaking entire galaxies in your fights.

Also, it would be a bit disingenuous to imply the weapons were herald level. I know you didn't explicitly say it, and are exaggerating to make a point, but Asgardians can and do die to street level characters.

abhilegend
Originally posted by darthgoober
I could absolutely be remembering incorrectly(apologies if I am), but wasn't the victory of the space ants specifically attributed to the potency of their weapons and superior numbers? Give a million regular humans herald level weapons and they could eventually bring down any number of ultra powerful beings even though someone like Taskmaster could likely kill dozens of them before they got a chance to capitalize on their 2 big advantages
Funny how losing to Doomsday and Superman makes you a jobber but losing to random space ants make them uber powerful, it's funny how marvel fanboy mind works.

darthgoober
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That kinda falls over if you're one of the top tier (if not the top) Skyfather in all of comics, capable of shaking entire galaxies in your fights.

Also, it would be a bit disingenuous to imply the weapons were herald level. I know you didn't explicitly say it, and are exaggerating to make a point, but Asgardians can and do die to street level characters.
Oh I meant to imply no specific level to the weapons of the ants, my point is that it's not as cut and dry as them dying to street level characters. Maybe the weapons are on par with the weapons of the NYPD, maybe they're akin to Hydra/Shield, maybe they're worthy of the Leader or Mandarin... impossible to say. But if the victory was specifically attributed to powerful weapons and a massive numbers superiority... well those conditions throw quite a bit of ambiguity into the mix.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Funny how losing to Doomsday and Superman makes you a jobber but losing to random space ants make them uber powerful, it's funny how marvel fanboy mind works.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single Asgardian I'd consider a jobber just for losing to Supes or Doomsday, after all Supes is a flagship character. The guy losing to Hulk Hogan doesn't automatically earn the title even if he does the "job".

abhilegend
Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh I meant to imply no specific level to the weapons of the ants, my point is that it's not as cut and dry as them dying to street level characters. Maybe the weapons are on par with the weapons of the NYPD, maybe they're akin to Hydra/Shield, maybe they're worthy of the Leader or Mandarin... impossible to say. But if the victory was specifically attributed to powerful weapons and a massive numbers superiority... well those conditions throw quite a bit of ambiguity into the mix.


Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single Asgardian I'd consider a jobber just for losing to Supes or Doomsday, after all Supes is a flagship character. The guy losing to Hulk Hogan doesn't automatically earn the title even if he does the "job".
laughing out loud

I'm talking about Darkseid

darthgoober
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

I'm talking about Darkseid
I don't think people called him Jobberseid cause of a single loss to Supes, pretty sure it was a combination of his have issues with Supes a few times, plus Firestorm getting one up on him by redirecting his omega force, plus some GL making him look bad with a shovel construct, plus DS fanboys absolutely losing their shit anytime suggested that anyone in Marvel short Galactus/Odin could even phase the guy.

And don't get me wrong because Odin's got plenty of lows to pull from justify a similar rip on Odin, but the space ants themselves are a weak case to try to make if the victory was specifically attributed to superior numbers and weapons. Cause if their weapons are better than Asgardian weapons than they'd only really be street level if the Asgarians themselves are street level. By the same token, it'd be unfair to say that losing to a GL or Ironman is the same as losing to a street level character since they're just human when they're unarmed.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't think people called him Jobberseid cause of a single loss to Supes, pretty sure it was a combination of his have issues with Supes a few times, plus Firestorm getting one up on him by redirecting his omega force, plus some GL making him look bad with a shovel construct, plus DS fanboys absolutely losing their shit anytime suggested that anyone in Marvel short Galactus/Odin could even phase the guy.

And don't get me wrong because Odin's got plenty of lows to pull from justify a similar rip on Odin, but the space ants themselves are a weak case to try to make if the victory was specifically attributed to superior numbers and weapons. Cause if their weapons are better than Asgardian weapons than they'd only really be street level if the Asgarians themselves are street level. By the same token, it'd be unfair to say that losing to a GL or Ironman is the same as losing to a street level character since they're just human when they're unarmed.

Taskmaster is tiered at street level, and killed two Asgardians on his own.

Daken is the next tier up, Low Meta, and slaughtered a ton of them whilst not taking it seriously. Street level Asgardians seem to be about right based on that...

darthgoober
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Taskmaster is tiered at street level, and killed two Asgardians on his own.

Daken is the next tier up, Low Meta, and slaughtered a ton of them whilst not taking it seriously. Street level Asgardians seem to be about right based on that...
So if guys like Batman, Nightwing, and Catwoman bring down Kryptonians, that means the Kryptonians should be considered street level?

DarkSaint85
Batman has Batmite protecting him as a guardian angel, as you well know (but forgot). Maybe that extends to the Batfamily, but that's just me grasping at straws

And no, of course not. Kryptonians then have their other showings that show them as being beyond street level, such as a handful of random Kryps beating Doomsday to death, or stopping a moon/planet (I forget which).

Do random no-name Asgardians have any showings that aren't hype/lip service showcasing how uber they are?

Even Batman combined with Nightwing and Catwoman haven't (to my knowledge) taken down as many Kryptonians as Daken did Asgardians
- he's literally squatting on a pile of their bodies, whilst treating it like a joke.

darthgoober
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman has Batmite protecting him as a guardian angel, as you well know (but forgot). Maybe that extends to the Batfamily, but that's just me grasping at straws

And no, of course not. Kryptonians then have their other showings that show them as being beyond street level, such as a handful of random Kryps beating Doomsday to death, or stopping a moon/planet (I forget which).

Do random no-name Asgardians have any showings that aren't hype/lip service showcasing how uber they are?

Even Batman combined with Nightwing and Catwoman haven't (to my knowledge) taken down as many Kryptonians as Daken did Asgardians
- he's literally squatting on a pile of their bodies, whilst treating it like a joke.
They never tried to bring down a bunch of Kryptonians and outright slaughering anyone would go against their character, doesn't mean it would be unrealistic if people of their caliber have shown the capacity to easy brought down one or two Kryptonians in the past.

As for the showings of no name Asgardians, I'm not really a big enough Thor fan to pay attention to that kind of thing so I have absolutely no idea, but if someone like ODG manages to find one or two good feats for no name Asgardians that it'll convince you that Asgardians are above street level and admit the fallacy in play here? I'm also curious as to whether DD losing to those random Kryptonians makes him herald level since the Asgardians seemed to be outnumbered at least 12 to 1

I don't actually have a dog in this race(writers of both big companies turned me off of comics years ago), my efforts are geared more towards helping those involved in moving the debate forward cause I still enjoy reading a well thought out debate regardless of the topic.

ODG
Is this supposed to be a serious thread?

The space ant Vrellnexians defeated Odin and Asgard. Doesn't matter if you want to dismiss it as a goofy early 1970s comic. It happened. Off-panel, yes. And declared by an unreliable narrator, yes. But it happened.

If the Vrellenxians defeated Odin and Asgard, they'd roflstomp H/P Doomsday 10/10.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by darthgoober
They never tried to bring down a bunch of Kryptonians and outright slaughering anyone would go against their character, doesn't mean it would be unrealistic if people of their caliber have shown the capacity to easy brought down one or two Kryptonians in the past.

As for the showings of no name Asgardians, I'm not really a big enough Thor fan to pay attention to that kind of thing so I have absolutely no idea, but if someone like ODG manages to find one or two good feats for no name Asgardians that it'll convince you that Asgardians are above street level and admit the fallacy in play here? I'm also curious as to whether DD losing to those random Kryptonians makes him herald level since the Asgardians seemed to be outnumbered at least 12 to 1

I don't actually have a dog in this race(writers of both big companies turned me off of comics years ago), my efforts are geared more towards helping those involved in moving the debate forward cause I still enjoy reading a well thought out debate regardless of the topic.

Well I guess we'll need some scans of their feats then, as I asked. But I can see you've moved things to 'one or two Kryptonians '.

We've been told, and shown, that they have extreme super speed and super strength. Here is a respect thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t665306.html

The one or two scans from whoever it is you call upon, would have to be pretty extreme and convincing for your comparison to Kryps to work.

I know you didn't say Asgardians were Kryp level - I'm not putting words in your mouth. But if someone posted Batman taking out a Kryp or two, and said they were therefore street (Batman, btw, is a Low Meta, and protected by the aforementioned Bat-Mite as you know, so not quite the same as Daken casually mowing through entire groups), I wouldn't say they were street, as I can easily counter with a fair few scans of random Kryps doing things no street, hell even meta tier characters,do.

abhilegend
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't think people called him Jobberseid cause of a single loss to Supes, pretty sure it was a combination of his have issues with Supes a few times, plus Firestorm getting one up on him by redirecting his omega force, plus some GL making him look bad with a shovel construct, plus DS fanboys absolutely losing their shit anytime suggested that anyone in Marvel short Galactus/Odin could even phase the guy.

And don't get me wrong because Odin's got plenty of lows to pull from justify a similar rip on Odin, but the space ants themselves are a weak case to try to make if the victory was specifically attributed to superior numbers and weapons. Cause if their weapons are better than Asgardian weapons than they'd only really be street level if the Asgarians themselves are street level. By the same token, it'd be unfair to say that losing to a GL or Ironman is the same as losing to a street level character since they're just human when they're unarmed.
"Here's me explaining why Darkseid is Jobberseid"

"How dare you to call Odin Jobberdin for losing to random space ants, those ants have feats!!!!!"

Never change goober.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Is this supposed to be a serious thread?

The space ant Vrellnexians defeated Odin and Asgard. Doesn't matter if you want to dismiss it as a goofy early 1970s comic. It happened. Off-panel, yes. And declared by an unreliable narrator, yes. But it happened.

If the Vrellenxians defeated Odin and Asgard, they'd roflstomp H/P Doomsday 10/10.
laughing out loud

laughing

crylaugh

ODG
^ What skyfather on Odin's level -- let alone one with the backing of his realm's population -- has H/P Doomsday defeated?

Please, proceed.

abhilegend
Behold the skyfather level space ants/random aliens, wrecked by Thor and Warrior Three.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vyTVP89vHHE/VnpmfXIVxZI/AAAAAAAASEE/Not4Ab1_DKE/s1600-Ic42/RCO016.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-X5MqhgqLzJ8/VnpmfhPEA6I/AAAAAAAASEE/uNcTaZ1SquM/s1600-Ic42/RCO017.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9EtplbJEApY/Vnpmf9tPyXI/AAAAAAAASEE/HqR-1Ha04oA/s1600-Ic42/RCO018.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EZJlxBbut7s/Vnpmf4OqD0I/AAAAAAAASEE/f5X2Ji0imjI/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6zpzdCPK73M/VnpmgCx09kI/AAAAAAAASEE/T3H7DWHVVXM/s1600-Ic42/RCO020.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wRC7-c31oL8/VnpmgarHIqI/AAAAAAAASEE/hnSxpVzDNc0/s1600-Ic42/RCO021.jpg

Thor himself gets knocked out by a small stone dropped at his head from a building in the next issue lol.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vdEjJjPaM7U/VnpmnnUXYQI/AAAAAAAASHE/aXGa-Oou0QU/s1600-Ic42/RCO006.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Kvd_hHPnpds/Vnpmn0ZfJGI/AAAAAAAASHE/j858Iv4_mk4/s1600-Ic42/RCO007.jpg

Next you're gonna ask me which herald level stone Doomsday has tanked, right?


I'd laugh if I didn't know you were retarded.

ODG
^ Individual groups of space ant Vrellnexians aren't the same as the unnumbered army that assaulted Odin and Asgard off-panel.

You'd understand that if you weren't such a spitefully dishonest little b1tch.

Over fictional comics of all things. But based on you tooting your horn over being the "best KMC poster ever", I suppose this is what you base your self-value on.

ODG
So when has H/P Doomsday defeated a skyfather like Odin w/ the backing of his realm's population again?

https://media1.tenor.com/m/nnvh8YKcv7EAAAAC/anyone-answer.gif

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
^ Individual groups of space ant Vrellnexians aren't the same as the unnumbered army that assaulted Odin and Asgard off-panel.

You'd understand that if you weren't such a spitefully dishonest little b1tch.

Over fictional comics of all things. But based on you tooting your horn over being the "best KMC poster ever", I suppose this is what you base your self-value on.
The lizards say that Thor vanquished all the space ants. I mean, I know you are retarded, so I'll explode the scans for you.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wRC7-c31oL8/VnpmgarHIqI/AAAAAAAASEE/hnSxpVzDNc0/s1600-Ic42/RCO021.jpg

Read the first panel, if not I can transcript you the words as well.

ODG
^ I read the first panel of your obnoxiously over-sized scan. And it changes nothing of what I said. Unless you're trying to suggest that the space ant Vrellnexians that assaulted Odin and Asgard suffered absolutely no casualties and, therefore, that same collective group of space ant Vrellnexians were defeated by Thor and the Warriors Three later.

In which case, did you not read the actual comics? Here, your favorite scan ever. The space ant Vrellnexians clearly suffered casualties despite overcoming Odin and Asgard:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Vrellnexians01.jpg

No, not a single KMCer doubts you read the comic. You probably masturbate over it every other day. So why do you try and twist plainly obvious on-panel facts? Especially in this day and age where it is very easy to fact-check blatant liars like yourself?

Only you can answer that. Although, I have a pretty good guess.kinda

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
So when has H/P Doomsday defeated a skyfather like Odin w/ the backing of his realm's population again?

https://media1.tenor.com/m/nnvh8YKcv7EAAAAC/anyone-answer.gif
Alright, since you want to go it at so badly, I'll bite. Darkseid, there you go.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
^ I read the first panel of your obnoxiously over-sized scan. And it changes nothing of what I said. Unless you're trying to suggest that the space ant Vrellnexians that assaulted Odin and Asgard suffered absolutely no casualties and, therefore, that same collective group of space ant Vrellnexians were defeated by Thor and the Warriors Three later.

In which case, did you not read the actual comics? Here, your favorite scan ever. The space ant Vrellnexians clearly suffered casualties despite overcoming Odin and Asgard:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Vrellnexians01.jpg

No, not a single KMCer doubts you read the comic. You probably masturbate over it every other day. So why do you try and twist plainly obvious on-panel facts? Especially in this day and age where it is very easy to fact-check blatant liars like yourself?

Only you can answer that. Although, I have a pretty good guess.kinda
Of course it changes nothing, Vrellexians numbered over 6.4 billions. Unless Asgardians killed over six billions of them, it means nothing how many were killed in Asgardian invasion.

https://i.postimg.cc/CdDMqcCh/image.jpg

And official handbook confirms their weapons are moderately advanced only, nothing too fancy.

ODG
^ Nobody on KMC cares about handbooks unless they're desperate to avoid the events that occur within the four corners of the actual comics pages.

But you clearly haven't thought this through. You're somehow fine with the fact that there were 6.4 billions Vrellnexians? Yet, somehow, that number didn't appreciably deplete during the assault on Odin and Asgard? No, that number wasn't diminished at all and were only defeated by Thor and the Warriors Three?

Based on what? Your unreasonable bias? Your obvious prejudice? N1gga please. Thor and the Warriors Three did not defeat billions of Vrellnexians. Thor's escapades were closely followed on-panel during the entire storyline. They fought individual groups of Vrellnexians, at best. Indeed, they fought more Ssssth than Vrellnexians which ended up being the narrative twist in the story. So if there were billions of Vrellnexians, they could have only been involved in the off-panel assault against Odin and Asgard. In which case, it makes far more sense that the billions were defeated by them, not Thor and the Warriors Three. Originally posted by abhilegend
Alright, since you want to go it at so badly, I'll bite. Darkseid, there you go. Firstly, that Darkseid does not possess the level of feats that Odin had.

Secondly, H/P Doomsday did not fight the realm of Apokolips along w/ Darkseid.

Now I'm sure you will try and argue that the Darkseid that appeared during Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey is some singular multiversal entity. But reverse-inflating the actual Darkseid that was three-pieced by H/P Doomsday won't be a winning strategy. Go ahead. I'll dismantle such a claim.

I understand that your resentment cannot be helped. Well... here I am ready and welcome to carry it along to its inevitable conclusion. It's what you've been begging for after all for 10+ years, right?

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
^ Nobody on KMC cares about handbooks unless they're desperate to avoid the events that occur within the four corners of the actual comics pages.

You don't care about handbooks.

And you don't care about comics as well when they outright state that Thor defeated the entire race.

So, now what? I just take your words now, huh?

So, the proof of all this? I'll love to see scans.

Yeah, random Asgardians/Apokoliptians are the main factor here lol.

I'll make no such claims lol. Darkseid/Highfather can match or exceed any feat Odin in his entire career (forget till Thor 212) has even before Final Crisis. Go ahead and try me.

Resentment? You're just another poster dude, I'll thrash you and move on.

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
You don't care about handbooks. KMC doesn't care about handbooks. I am not special in this regard. Originally posted by abhilegend
And you don't care about comics as well when they outright state that Thor defeated the entire race.

So, now what? I just take your words now, huh?

So, the proof of all this? I'll love to see scans. "The entire race"? Ok, I can sorta accept that Thor and the Warriors Three defeated what was left of "the entire race" of Vrellnexians after they had exhausted their billions against Odin and Asgard?

I read the comics where Thor and the Warriors Three gallivanted around thrashing Vrellnexians and Ssssth trying to liberate the imprisoned/poisoned Odin and Asgardians. Dem Vrellnexians Thor fought weren't numbered in billions, pal.

Bruh, nobody has read these particular Thor issues more than you. So stop pretending. It's so utterly b1tchmade. I'm not going to prove the negative. If you want to pretend that Thor and the Warriors Three defeated billions of Vrellnexians, by all means, try and prove that. Originally posted by abhilegend
I'll make no such claims lol. Darkseid/Highfather can match or exceed any feat Odin in his entire career (forget till Thor 212) has even before Final Crisis. Go ahead and try me. I'm too drunk to even care about this seemingly arbitrary limitation about Thor 212??? But if you had a feat of Darkseid's, you would've posted it by now. So I am going ahead. I try you. Originally posted by abhilegend
Resentment? You're just another poster dude, I'll thrash you and move on. Does you moving on involve 10+ years of chasing me after being put on ignore? laughing out loud

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
KMC doesn't care about handbooks. I am not special in this regard.

Which rule mandates that?



There's nothing contradictory in the handbook from the comic, ergo they're perfectly admissible.

Now you just have to prove that Asgardians killed billions of the space ants, I'll love to see the scan. I'll even take a handbook.

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. They defeated the ants off panel.
I already posted the lizards confirming that Thor defeated the entire race. You're the one claiming Asgardians killed majority of them lol, so prove that.
Alright, try to match this simple feat.

Darkseid revives Secret (a ghost) stripping her of all power.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-18.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-19.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-20.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-21.jpg




Chasing you? Lmao, I was simply posting on your stupid posts in live threads. It's not like I was going through your post history and commenting on it days or years later lol.

You're simply stupid.

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Now you just have to prove that Asgardians killed billions of the space ants, I'll love to see the scan. I'll even take a handbook. Don't be a schmuck. You were the one who argued that Thor and the Warriors Three vanquished the entire billions+ worth of Vrellnexians in an attempt to lowball Odin and Asgard's battle with the Vrellnexians.

So post the panels where Thor and the Warriors Three vanquished billions of Vrellnexians. Don't be such a deceptive little b1tch. You and I both know that if I took on the burden of disproving the negative, I'd have to post dozens of pages of scans over several issues. Originally posted by abhilegend
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. An unextraordinary statement of logic. Originally posted by abhilegend
They defeated the ants off panel. Oh, but Odin and Asgard didn't defeat an army of Vrellnexians off-panel? Phucking Christ, you're stupid. Originally posted by abhilegend
Chasing you? Yes, for 10+ years. Now that I've deigned to stand before you, I am sure you're joyful. Let's see if that lasts a day, let alone a week.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Don't be a schmuck. You were the one who argued that Thor and the Warriors Three vanquished the entire billions+ worth of Vrellnexians in an attempt to lowball Odin and Asgard's battle with the Vrellnexians.

Heaven forbid!!!! I, lowball Thor and Odin? Never.

I simply posted the scan where it said the space ants numbered in billion after you claimed most were killed by Asgardians. I never said Asgardians killed billions.
Are you such a simpleton that you can't track your own arguments? Read the thread again and if you can't understand it, I'll transcript the argument for you.

Stand before me? Lol, lmao even.

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Heaven forbid!!!! I, lowball Thor and Odin? Is this sarcastic admission of your obvious motivations supposed to annul your puerile intentions? Yes, nobody should take your sh1t seriously because of how transparent you are.Originally posted by abhilegend
I simply posted Yea. I recommend you cease doing so. You add absolutely nothing of value in terms of constructive discussion here.

As I said before, leave it to your betters. thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Is this sarcastic admission of your obvious motivations supposed to annul your puerile intentions? Yes, nobody should take your sh1t seriously because of how transparent you are. Yea. I recommend you cease doing so. You add absolutely nothing of value in terms of constructive discussion here.

laughing out loud

Leave it to you to butcher a funny line into something this nonsensical. Why are you such a sour puss anyway, is it because I called you a retard, you retard?

There's none on this forum.

I'm still waiting for the Odin feats BTW.

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Leave it to you to butcher a funny line into something this nonsensical. Why are you such a sour puss anyway, is it because I called you a retard, you retard? Is this English or did you ask ChatGPT to formulate a retort? Originally posted by abhilegend
There's none on this forum.

I'm still waiting for the Odin feats BTW. Wow. Continuing to toot your own horn as if you were the best KMC poster. Insecure, much?

I thought we were waiting on H/P Doomsday's feats? laughing out loud

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Is this English or did you ask ChatGPT to formulate a retort?

I asked your mom, she was very glad to help.

I am the best KMC poster. Nothing insecure about it.

I already gave you one.

DarkSaint85
A bridge (so a chokepoint) with a superstrong character who doesn't tire, has a great HF, willing to kill, has already gone through energy blasts that have ripped holes in spacetime/=1 million nukes/Omega blasts, AND evolves past whatever attacks hit him?

Doomsday is perfect to hold the bridge against the space ants, and defeats them. Sure, they have the numbers, but the whole point of Doomsday is that if you hit him with lots and lots of little attacks, he just evolves past it.

And the bridge stops that from happening.

ODG
^ Well, H/P Doomsday never evolved past simple punching. So the no-limits fallacy is unavailing. And the OP never specified the battle took place on the Rainbow Bridge.

But ok, you're still talking about an army that defeated Odin supported by his Asgardian army. Hard to imagine how that would've happened but it did. So just because it's hard to imagine how space ants would defeat H/P Doomsday doesn't eliminate their one feat.

The Infinity Watch, Thanos, Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange assaulted dozens scores of Asgardian soldiers on the Rainbow Bridge and eventually Odin during Blood and Thunder. That collective group got stomped on. Now you're talking about an army that actually outright defeated Odin and his entire army.

This is a spite thread.

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid revives Secret (a ghost) stripping her of all power.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-18.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-19.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-20.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-21.jpg Waitaminute, I missed this. This is your Darkseid feat that's supposed to exceed Odin? Resurrecting a human girl?

ODG
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Laugh01.gif

carver9
Lmmfao

Juntai
Originally posted by ODG
Waitaminute, I missed this. This is your Darkseid feat that's supposed to exceed Odin? Resurrecting a human girl? Pretty sure he was just tossing an easy one to get a feat war started.

ODG
Originally posted by Juntai
Pretty sure he was just tossing an easy one to get a feat war started. Only a witless imbecile would start at the very lowest to debate a featwar between characters.

. . . . . .

Alright, this is abhilegend we're dealing with. Makes more sense that he's desperate to avoid easily citable highest feats of each character to make it seem like the comparison of Darkseid and Odin is closer than it is. A thinly veiled attempt to avoid the consequences of his own actions, as it were. Not the first time I've confronted that on KMC.

So, ok. As a response to Darkseid resurrecting a human girl, Odin resurrected a "billion billion" souls that comprised Mangog back to life.

What Darkseid feat matches or exceeds that Odin feat, abhilegend?

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Waitaminute, I missed this. This is your Darkseid feat that's supposed to exceed Odin? Resurrecting a human girl? Originally posted by ODG
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Laugh01.gif Originally posted by ODG
Only a witless imbecile would start at the very lowest to debate a featwar between characters.

. . . . . .

Alright, this is abhilegend we're dealing with. Makes more sense that he's desperate to avoid easily citable highest feats of each character to make it seem like the comparison of Darkseid and Odin is closer than it is. A thinly veiled attempt to avoid the consequences of his own actions, as it were. Not the first time I've confronted that on KMC.

So, ok. As a response to Darkseid resurrecting a human girl, Odin resurrected a "billion billion" souls that comprised Mangog back to life.

What Darkseid feat matches or exceeds that Odin feat, abhilegend?
Where exactly did Odin resurrect the race in Mangog, you ****ing idiot? He only freed them and then Jurgens retconned that that race was never freed in the first place.

You call yourself a Thor fan?

MrMind
odg throwing hissy fit in every thread. it's hilarious

the new alberto

abhilegend
Even in the original Thor 157, Odin revealed that the race of Mangog wasn't actually dead but placed under a spell and Mangog was merely a prison for them.

https://i.postimg.cc/0zyH64g5/RCO019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/DSpp1cFr/RCO020.jpg

I mean come on, this is common knowledge by now.

abhilegend
From Thor : Asgard's Avenger.

https://i.postimg.cc/KRqC5bD3/image.jpg

Dumbo could have chosen several other examples but no, he had to be a dumbass LMFAO.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Lmmfao

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Where exactly did Odin resurrect the race in Mangog, you ****ing idiot? He only freed them and then Jurgens retconned that that race was never freed in the first place.

You call yourself a Thor fan? Alright, let's dissect your butthurt myth piece by piece. Won't even address your desperate plea to handbooks since we have the comics to rely on.

First, Odin resurrected the billion billion beings in your own scans that you provided from Thor vol.1 #157. The comic literally displays, "And so, a billion, billion beings shall live again..."

Second, Mangog's subsequent reappearances since Thor vol.1 #157 have been explained as Mangog representing their enduring hatred despite them being revived from the dead. So acting like Odin never restored the billion billion beings because Mangog inexplicably keeps showing up is just you ignoring his entire history:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog01.jpg

Third, if you're trying to doubt the billion billion beings were never per se dead and only imprisoned, read these scans that clearly establish those billion billions beings were "annihilated" and/or "slaughtered" by Odin in the first place:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog02.jpg https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog03.jpg

ODG
Anyway, your impudent accusation that I have got Mangog all wrong is irony personified. Not only does your own position fail a simple fact-check on three different fronts in this present day and age where virtually all comics are accessible to every internet-user, but you had the audacity to lecture me on my supposed lack of knowledge.

In the end though, the absurdity of this exchange is most richly represented by this: according to you, Darkseid's feat of (a) restoring a human girl from ghost back to life, is somehow more impressive than Odin's feat(s) of (b) first imprisoning the souls of a billion billion beings into a monstrous single entity and then restoring those billion billion beings from Mangog-form back to life.

Baby Jesus wept in a basket. All this over such plain, on-panel facts. How many hills are you willing to die on? Just accept the loss(es) and move on, ffs.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Alright, let's dissect your butthurt myth piece by piece. Won't even address your desperate plea to handbooks since we have the comics to rely on.

Hahahahahaha, this is just the sort of idiocy I've expected you to post with.

Live again, free from the prison they were trapped in. They were never stated to be revived from dead, Mangog falsely believed the race to be dead.

You realise what you just posted, right? The scan outright says the race was exiled and now freed.

Are you really this dumb?

Yes, that's what is called a retcon, now Mangog's race was never revived by Odin in the first place. As explained in Thor 157 and until Thor run by Jurgens, Mangog was merely a prison for the alien race.

You really are dumb.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Anyway, your impudent accusation that I have got Mangog all wrong is irony personified.
Not the first thing you're wrong about, nor it will be the last. Pay attention kid, school is in session, I'll teach you about comics.

Hey moron, at least read your scans before posting them. Even carver knows that now.

You really can't be this dumb, reread your own scan and come back.

ODG
I posted the scans and you're just acting like they don't utterly disprove every one of your lies.

You're trying to pretend Jurgens retconned Mangog but I'm the only one who actually posted scans from Jurgen's run. And even if you wanted to just go Bizarro-world and act like the Jurgen scans don't disprove your lies, then surely the Jason Aaron scans disprove your lies.

Is this your new shtick? You lie. Then get called out on your lies. You continue to lie some more. In a pathetic attempt to regress the conversation towards trollery to cover up your lies?

Have the 10+ years of my ignoring you subsequently subjected you to being dismantled by the rest of KMC to this pitiable state? Goddamn, n1gga. No wonder qwertyuiop1998 was so insulted being associated with you.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
I posted the scans and you're just acting like they don't utterly disprove every one of your lies.

You're trying to pretend Jurgens retconned Mangog but I'm the only one who actually posted scans from Jurgen's run. And even if you wanted to just go Bizarro-world and act like the Jurgen scans don't disprove your lies, then surely the Jason Aaron scans disprove your lies.

Is this your new shtick? You lie. Then get called out on your lies. You continue to lie some more. In a pathetic attempt to regress the conversation towards trollery to cover up your lies?
What does this image say dumbo?

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog01.jpg

Read it out loud for the benefit of everyone, it's your scan after all.





***** please, at least read scans before posting them.


Anyway the reason I posted those scans for Darkseid is that we know for a fact that Odinforce is not capable of reviving a human being, at least it can't bring their souls back.

https://s6.postimg.cc/8dwjpoqy9/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/5c5rfqdtd/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/l1gwfxv8x/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/fslvi2ctt/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/6sh9xvgq9/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/bseq5tmcx/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/8bco2unap/image.jpg

Thor v2 65. There you go. Shall we do this again?

abhilegend
Even if you exclude King Thor (because why not) Odin himself got almost drained reviving Thor and Valkyrie (which should be easy) because they're both Asgardians.

https://s6.postimg.cc/djr2c6iy9/Thor_V1_300-010.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/52rk19e9d/Thor_V1_300-011.jpg

On another instance he was drained just healing Thor's wounds in Jurgens run.

Darkseid brings Orion back to life easily.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv3_07-08.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv3_07-10.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv3_07-11.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv3_07-12.jpg

Darkseid on the other hand has never had a problem with resurrecting either new gods or humans.

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
What does this image say dumbo?

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog01.jpg

Read it out loud for the benefit of everyone, it's your scan after all. The image says exactly what I posted it to demonstrate. And it says nothing that would contradict nor override what was subsequently said on-panel. Let me hold your hand, step-by-step:

(1) Odin annihilated/slaughtered a billion billion beings. Why? Nobody knows.
(2) Odin decides to be a total d1ck and further imprisons those billion billion beings' souls into a single miserable, hateful being, i.e., Mangog.
(3) Odin's own creation eventually comes back to threaten Asgard so Odin resurrects the billion billion beings to dispel the threat of Mangog.
(4) Odin's hubris comes back to haunt him because the combined hatred of those billion billion beings still persisted because of what Odin perpetrated upon their entire race.
(5) Indeed, their combined hatred became (or was originally the true) source of Mangog's power so that despite their resurrection, that hatred was channeled back into every new reincarnation of Mangog.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog05.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog06.jpg Originally posted by abhilegend
***** please, at least read scans before posting them. Err... no, you?

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway the reason I posted those scans for Darkseid is that we know for a fact that Odinforce is not capable of reviving a human being, at least it can't bring their souls back.

https://s6.postimg.cc/8dwjpoqy9/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/5c5rfqdtd/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/l1gwfxv8x/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/fslvi2ctt/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/6sh9xvgq9/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/bseq5tmcx/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/8bco2unap/image.jpg

Thor v2 65. There you go. Shall we do this again? You posted feats of King Thor, bruh. Not Odin. But, oh... sh1t. Somehow Darkseid restoring a dead human girl back to life is so much more superior to Odin's resurrection feats? Well, Odin has resurrected Hulk on-panel:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Odin01a.jpg

Beyond that Odin has resurrected Hela on-panel as well:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Odin02.jpg

And lest we forget, as was already definitively proven on-panel, Odin has resurrected a billion billion beings on-panel:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Odin00.jpg

You, yourself, tried to start this "featwar" between Darkseid and Odin on the matter of resurrection? Odin outfeats Darkseid by a scale of billion billions to one. Jfc, could you have picked a worse example to begin with? How utterly twisted up on yourself are you with your hatred/resentment over such an innocuous comparison that you could not perceive how disastrous this comparison would be?

abihilegend Nah, I've been dealing with abhimagog. The combined butthurt of dozen dozens of DC fanboys.

laughcry

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
The image says exactly what I posted it to demonstrate. And it says nothing that would contradict nor override what was subsequently said on-panel. Let me hold your hand, step-by-step:

(1) Odin annihilated/slaughtered a billion billion beings. Why? Nobody knows.

It says exiled, not annihilated or slaughtered. Where does your scan says that they were annihilated/slaughtered, dumbo?


Nope, Jurgens Mangog outright declares the souls still live in him. If those souls still are inside him, what did Odin revive exactly?

Thor v2 21

https://i.postimg.cc/gw7G8Lpy/RCO010.jpg

Donny Cates messing up continuity again, who'd have thought of that.

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
It says exiled, not annihilated or slaughtered. Where does your scan says that they were annihilated/slaughtered, dumbo? The billion billion beings could be killed and their souls still be exiled/imprisoned. Post a scan that disproves that. Or just read my prior scans from Thor vol.2 #21 and The Mighty Thor #701 that step-by-step lay out that the billion billion beings were annihilated and/or slaughtered:
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog04.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog05.jpg Originally posted by abhigog
Nope, Jurgens Mangog outright declares the souls still live in him. If those souls still are inside him, what did Odin revive exactly?

Thor v2 21

https://postimg.cc/gw7G8Lpy Your scan? Your scan literally states that Mangog is comprised of the "wrath and all-consuming hate of billion billion beings!" And in my scan that literally comes in the very next page, Mangog continues to clarify that despite "the restoration" of those billion billion beings, their loathsome hatred still persists (and therefore, continues to empower Mangog as shown in his 2nd appearance back in Thor #196):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog04.jpg Originally posted by abhigog
Donny Cates messing up continuity again, who'd have thought of that. It wasn't Donny Cates, idiot. It was Jason Aaron. That you deride the most current and undeniable depiction of a character in favor of a a decades-old, questionably subjective "retcon" of a character just evinces your desperation.

Seriously, take the loss and move on. Even I am embarassed for you.

ODG
https://25.media.tumblr.com/0af264a9999a9801dfa2f9b620357f33/tumblr_msibx8DpuJ1stk9xvo1_500.gif

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
You posted feats of King Thor, bruh. Not Odin. But, oh... sh1t. Somehow Darkseid restoring a dead human girl back to life is so much more superior to Odin's resurrection feats? Well, Odin has resurrected Hulk on-panel:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Odin01a.jpg

All such resurrections are retconned to be due to Green Door.

Asgardian, there's no such claim from me regarding Asgardians.

Lol no, he did not. And now I know why you cropped that panel, it's Malekith talking about Mangog's story and we know he's an unreliable narrator, he's not even sure about it himself.

https://i.postimg.cc/gx0hp0y9/image.jpg

Tsk, Tsk.

This is simply hilarious on so many levels. I've never seen such an obtuse poster.

Dude, you still haven't read the scan you posted yourself?

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
The billion billion beings could be killed and their souls still be exiled/imprisoned.

Now you're just making stuff up. Step up from unable to read your own scans I guess.
Why are you unable to comprehend such simple stuff? After Jurgens they were killed and the race's souls still resides in Mangog because Odin never restored them.

Here, from Mighty Thor 703, Cul states that Mangog's race is wiped out of existence entirely.

https://i.postimg.cc/TpZnGxPC/image.jpg

No mention of any resurrection from Mangog or Cul.

Restoration from the mystic prison, you dolt. It's literally impossible to teach you something I guess.

Lol, yeah I remembered the writer and instantly knew why you cropped the scan. Good try I guess?

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
https://25.media.tumblr.com/0af264a9999a9801dfa2f9b620357f33/tumblr_msibx8DpuJ1stk9xvo1_500.gif
laughing out loud

You're such a dumb little guy lmao

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
Here, from Mighty Thor 703, Cul states that Mangog's race is wiped out of existence entirely.

https://postimg.cc/TpZnGxPC That only further serves to prove that Odin murdered the billion billion beings. Sh1t... apparently Odin murdered a billion billion beings in a "blink of an eye." I didn't even realize Odin did so. Goddamn, you so massively butthurt over such clear comic facts that you will grasp at random crap that ends up biting you in your own a$$. Well, ok, since you brought it up when did Darkseid destroy a billion billion beings in a "blink of an eye" like Odin did?

Moving on... so Malekith's "colored" narration should be disregarded and replaced by your own puerile, biased, butthurt interpretation? You haven't proved a single component of your butthurt Mangog myth. And you haven't disproved a single thing of anything I said. I suppose this is where you're utterly reduced to abject trollery and rejecting on-panel evidence to lengthen this embarrassment to pretend there was a real discussion.

ODG
Hey, mang. I called it many posts ago: Originally posted by ODG
I posted the scans and you're just acting like they don't utterly disprove every one of your lies.

You're trying to pretend Jurgens retconned Mangog but I'm the only one who actually posted scans from Jurgen's run. And even if you wanted to just go Bizarro-world and act like the Jurgen scans don't disprove your lies, then surely the Jason Aaron scans disprove your lies.

Is this your new shtick? You lie. Then get called out on your lies. You continue to lie some more. In a pathetic attempt to regress the conversation towards trollery to cover up your lies?

Have the 10+ years of my ignoring you subsequently subjected you to being dismantled by the rest of KMC to this pitiable state? Goddamn, n1gga. No wonder qwertyuiop1998 was so insulted being associated with you. And what has your response been?

https://j.gifs.com/vZPgGG.gif

Smurph
Originally posted by abhilegend

Anyway the reason I posted those scans for Darkseid is that we know for a fact that Odinforce is not capable of reviving a human being, at least it can't bring their souls back.

https://s6.postimg.cc/8dwjpoqy9/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/5c5rfqdtd/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/l1gwfxv8x/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/fslvi2ctt/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/6sh9xvgq9/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/bseq5tmcx/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/8bco2unap/image.jpg

Thor v2 65. There you go. Shall we do this again? Those scans don't say the Odinforce can't bring a human back. Thor just f*cked it up.

The page before your scans, Thor says "My father successfully restored life. I must try."

The page after your scans, Thor says "The Odinforce should have brought the child back."

The next issue, Thor says "I had seen my father do this. I thought I had the power." and then "I'll try again. I have the ability. I just need to figure out how --"

Why are you ignoring those parts of the comic, Abhi?

ODG
^ Because abhigog is the personification of the combined butthurt of dozen dozens DC fanboys. His butthurt recognizes no logic and knows no limits. God save KMC!

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
That only further serves to prove that Odin murdered the billion billion beings. Sh1t... apparently Odin murdered a billion billion beings in a "blink of an eye." I didn't even realize Odin did so. Goddamn, you so massively butthurt over such clear comic facts that you will grasp at random crap that ends up biting you in your own a$$. Well, ok, since you brought it up when did Darkseid destroy a billion billion beings in a "blink of an eye" like Odin did?

Are you unable to read words? Where did I deny that after Jurgens retcon, Odin did kill the entire race except he never restored them and their souls still live in Mangog.
No reason to be sore after you tried to crop the panel to obfuscate the fact that Malekith isn't even sure what actually happened and is just making shit up.

Lol, I already proved everything and dismantled your every sorry excuse of an argument. Next.

MrMind
careful now abhi, odg might report you.

this is essentially odg in a nutshell everytime he got owned.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/sCo4WbezOxoAAAAd/lebron-james-le-snitch.gif

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Hey, mang. I called it many posts ago: And what has your response been?

https://j.gifs.com/vZPgGG.gif
laughing out loud

You still yapping about nothing, huh? Originally posted by Smurph
Those scans don't say the Odinforce can't bring a human back. Thor just f*cked it up.

The page before your scans, Thor says "My father successfully restored life. I must try."

The page after your scans, Thor says "The Odinforce should have brought the child back."

The next issue, Thor says "I had seen my father do this. I thought I had the power." and then "I'll try again. I have the ability. I just need to figure out how --"

Why are you ignoring those parts of the comic, Abhi?
Feats>Statements as you often say, don't you Smurph? Thor has never seen Odin resurrect anyone before.

He should have the power? He held entirety of Odinforce, what else did he need? Here, even more recently Thor straight up can't restore lives lost due to Toranos.

https://i.postimg.cc/m1kw3Tqx/image.jpg

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
No reason to be sore after you tried to crop the panel to obfuscate the fact that Malekith isn't even sure what actually happened and is just making shit up. So you're insinuating Malekith is lying about how Mangog's race was killed by Odin in the first place? There is no actual reason to entertain such an abjectly biased point of view. But I can actually post a scan where Mangog himself stated that his entire race was killed by Odin:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog08.jpg

abhilegend
You see Thor has totality of Odinforce except when it's convenient then he suddenly has less power. Thormathematics is hilarious.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
So you're insinuating Malekith is lying about how Mangog's race was killed by Odin in the first place? There is no actual reason to entertain such an abjectly biased point of view. But I can actually post a scan where Mangog himself stated that his entire race was killed by Odin:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog08.jpg
Why are you so stupid? I said Odin never resurrected the race after he slaughtered them, you dumb ape.

How clearly can I say it before you get it?

ODG
Originally posted by MrMind
careful now abhi, odg might report you. To your credit, you've withdrawn from your pedophile posts. But you have have presented as a misogynistic racist piece of garbage lately. Why pretend your own posts do not condemn you?

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why are you so stupid? I said Odin never resurrected the race after he slaughtered them, you dumb ape. Well you actually did insinuate Odin never killed the billion billion beings in the first place. Indeed, we spent several posts back and forth arguing that undeniable fact to your chagrin: Originally posted by abhilegend
Even in the original Thor 157, Odin revealed that the race of Mangog wasn't actually dead But whatever, pretend that asinine proposition of your's wasn't utterly dismantled. You fleeing from you own initial position is fine. Now your self-professed controversy is protesting the idea that Odin resurrected the billion billion beings even though that has been so clearly displayed on-panel and then reinforced in subsequent issues?

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Odin00.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog01.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog02a.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog06.jpg

MrMind
Originally posted by ODG
To your credit, you've withdrawn from your pedophile posts. But you have have presented as a misogynistic racist piece of garbage lately. Why pretend your own posts do not condemn you?

don't worry i reported you too. which was really easy to do since you couldn't keep your mouth clean even for one post.

just so i can answer a fool according to his folly. now back to ignore u go

Smurph
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

You still yapping about nothing, huh?
Feats>Statements as you often say, don't you Smurph? Thor has never seen Odin resurrect anyone before.

He should have the power? He held entirety of Odinforce, what else did he need? Here, even more recently Thor straight up can't restore lives lost due to Toranos.

https://i.postimg.cc/m1kw3Tqx/image.jpg This isn't about statements versus feats. You said "we know for a fact that Odinforce is not capable of reviving a human being, at least it can't bring their souls back". That was a lie. You referred to the pages showing Thor's failure to resurrect a soul and selectively avoided the pages of the same issue attributing the failure to Thor rather than the Odinpower.

Why lie? Anybody can pull up the issue and read it for themselves.

ODG
Originally posted by MrMind
don't worry i reported you too. which was really easy to do since you couldn't keep your mouth clean even for one post. Did you report me for pedophilic, misogynistic racist posts? Originally posted by MrMind
just so i can answer a fool according to his folly. now back to ignore u go Oh no! MrMind put me on ignore! I imagine just like abhigog, you will undo your ignore in short order because of your obsessive self-persecution and inability to actually disregard your self-inflicted infatuation with me.

Anybody want to bet on an over-under? I will set the line at two (2) months that MrMind will arbitrarily unignore me and recommence responding/trolling me.

Any takers? peaches

ODG
Originally posted by Smurph
This isn't about statements versus feats. You said "we know for a fact that Odinforce is not capable of reviving a human being, at least it can't bring their souls back". That was a lie. You referred to the pages showing Thor's failure to resurrect a soul and selectively avoided the pages of the same issue attributing the failure to Thor rather than the Odinpower.

Why lie? Anybody can pull up the issue and read it for themselves. Are you accusing the abhigog of lying? How dare you!

https://media.tenor.com/BTaWMmryVF0AAAAM/oh-oh-shit.gif

abhilegend
Originally posted by Smurph
This isn't about statements versus feats. You said "we know for a fact that Odinforce is not capable of reviving a human being, at least it can't bring their souls back".

That's exactly what the comic says.

https://i.postimg.cc/PCZV09hL/RCO002.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/TyJ73bKf/RCO010.jpg

"Thor tried his best"



Thor has no power to bring dead people back. Odin had already taught him everything about Odin power previously in Thor 59. Your argument is basically "Thor said it so it must be true".

Where did I lie?

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor has no power to bring dead people back.

Where did I lie? You clearly tried to present Thor's failure as a failure/limitation of the Odiinforce.

Who are you trying to fool?

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Well you actually did insinuate Odin never killed the billion billion beings in the first place. Indeed, we spent several posts back and forth arguing that undeniable fact to your chagrin: But whatever, pretend that asinine proposition of your's wasn't utterly dismantled.
In the original Thor 154-157, he never killed the race, you dumb ape. Just because you can't read doesn't mean rest of us can't.

Nobody is fleeing from any position, it's just that you can't read.

Already cleared both instances. You're just too dumb to understand.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Are you accusing the abhigog of lying? How dare you!

https://media.tenor.com/BTaWMmryVF0AAAAM/oh-oh-shit.gif
Cheerleading lol, truly worthy of you.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
You clearly tried to present Thor's failure as a failure/limitation of the Odiinforce.

Who are you trying to fool?
Unless Thor has some personal resurrection capability, it's only the failure of Odinforce. Odin already taught him how to use Odinforce effectively several issues ago in the same run.

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
In the original Thor 154-157, he never killed the race, you dumb ape. Just because you can't read doesn't mean rest of us can't. Odin did kill the race. According to all the comics that clarified Odin's slaughter that was perpetrated upon that alien race. Weren't you the one begging us to recognize Jurgen's supposed retcons? Yet, now that you are confronted with the plain presentation of the Jurgen scans and subsequent scans, now you flee back to the original appearance of Mangog?

You are twirling around your own arguments/standards and trying to blame me for it. Nobody in this thread's audience is that stupid. Not even you. Such deceitful behavior is utterly wasted. So take a different approach for your own sake, b1tch. Originally posted by abhigog
Nobody is fleeing from any position, it's just that you can't read. We all can read that with every protest you laid forth, the comics have amply disproved them. What are you trying to disprove now?

That Odin killed those billion billion beings in the first place? Keep shifting back and forth around that. You yourself admitted it finally.

That Odin resurrected those billion billion beings? Keep shifting back and forth around that. The comics prove that several times over.

That Darkseid resurrecting a single human girl should be deemed exceptional in comparison to Odin killing and then resurrecting a billion billion beings? Omfg, your delusion is so quaint... Originally posted by abhigog
You're just too dumb to understand. Oh, well, based on your arbitrarily, unsubstantiated declaration of victory in contravention of all on-panel evidence, you must be the winner of this particular thread.

kinda

Apparently this sort of imbecility is what I have deprived myself of these past 10+ years.

Smurph
Originally posted by abhilegend


Where did I lie? Right here: Originally posted by abhilegend

we know for a fact that Odinforce is not capable of reviving a human being, at least it can't bring their souls back.

...

Thor v2 65. There you go. Shall we do this again? That's not what Thor v2 65 shows. And you omitted the pages stating as such.

So why the bullshit?

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
Cheerleading lol, truly worthy of you. And I am sure you disparage your own peanut gallery equally. Oh wait. We shouldn't expect you to engage in inner monologue with your socks. Originally posted by abhigog
Unless Thor has some personal resurrection capability, it's only the failure of Odinforce. Odin already taught him how to use Odinforce effectively several issues ago in the same run. So you're reverse-projecting Odinforce Thor's failures/limitations onto Odin. Despite Odin having his own decades-long rich history of on-panel feats that far surpass Odinforce Thor.

I mean, that's completely stupid. Because the initial challenge in this thread wasn't even Darkseid vs. Odinforce Thor but H/P Doomsday vs Odin.

But your insincere bullsh1ttery has been inevitably predictable. It's all you are left with given your abject failure to compare Darkseid to Odin. According to you, Darkseid resurrecting a single human girl somehow exceeds Odin killing, then resurrecting a billion billion beings? Your dumba$$ begged that disproportionate comparison even! You were the moron who brought that up in some misguided attempt to disprove Odin's superiority over Darkseid. Ffs, Darkseid resurrected a single human girl. Odin resurrected a billion billion beings. Such self-inflicted irony has rarely been matched here on KMC.

Maybe leave the Darkseid vs Odin argument to your betters because you ain't doing Darkseid no favors, n1gga.

laughcry

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Odin did kill the race. According to all the comics that clarified Odin's slaughter that was perpetrated upon that alien race.

Not until Jurgens run, he did not.

You're again using words you have no idea about. My position from the start is the same, you're just too dumb to understand.

Try this nonsense on someone else, *****. My stance has been clear from start.

You're again circling back to the same shit, how many times do I have to make it clear before it goes in your dense head?

Odin never resurrected the race, initially he released them from prison and then they are permanently erased from existence as clarified by Jason Aaron.

If you think repeating the same shit gonna work in your favor, you have no idea who you are dealing with.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Smurph
Right here: That's not what Thor v2 65 shows. And you omitted the pages stating as such.

So why the bullshit?
What did Thor v2 65 specified? Does Thor have personal resurrection capability that he failed to do? Did he have lesser Odinforce than Odin?

What exactly is your argument here?

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
And I am sure you disparage your own peanut gallery equally. Oh wait. We shouldn't expect you to engage in inner monologue with your socks.

My socks? Nigga, what are you smoking?

So, all this bullshit and you can't give a single argument about King Thor failing to resurrect a girl is Thor's fault rather than Odinforce.

Gotcha, little biatch.

MrMind
abhi, odg is imbecile+incel+rage+autism+cringe+edgelord+trying to be funny+little b

i command you having the patient to deal with the guy

although sometimes i do question how does a great country like canada could produce such disappointment.


like qwerty is literally a saint. and odg managed to piss him off.

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
So, all this bullshit and you can't give a single argument about King Thor failing to resurrect a girl is Thor's fault rather than Odinforce.

Gotcha, little biatch. We were comparing Darkseid to Odin. Until you realized you took on more than you could chew. I am not obligated to apologize for you having no avenues left to argue. You tried to act like Darkseid resurrecting a human girl was exceptional in comparison to Odin.

Then when confronted with Odin resurrecting a billion billion beings, you engaged in a flimsy diatribe to avoid the comparison you yourself demanded and inflicted upon yourself.

Even to the extent of you grasping desperate straws like King Thor's limitations as if that should reverse-project upon Odin's feats?

Your added arrogance does you no favors. Take the loss and move on. thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
We were comparing Darkseid to Odin. Until you realized you took on more than you could chew. I am not obligated to apologize for you having no avenues left to argue. You tried to act like Darkseid resurrecting a human girl was exceptional in comparison to Odin.

Then when confronted with Odin resurrecting a billion billion beings, you engaged in a flimsy diatribe to avoid the comparison you yourself demanded and inflicted upon yourself.

Even to the extent of you grasping desperate straws like King Thor's limitations as if that should reverse-project upon Odin's feats?

Your added arrogance does you no favors. Take the loss and move on. thumb up
Yawn, literally every argument you have is already dismantled and thrown in dustbin, I'm not going to hold your hand to read it again and again.

Odin never resurrected Mangog's race, comics verify it, handbooks verify it, you're just left with unreliable narration from Malekith and your inability to read words in the very same run from Jason Aaron that confirms Mangog's race is wiped out of existence.

You have no argument to defend why King Thor failed to resurrect a girl. You have got literally nothing but hot air.

Take the L bozo and suck it up.

ODG
Originally posted by MrMind
abhi, odg is imbecile+incel+rage+autism+cringe+edgelord+trying to be funny+little b

i command you having the patient to deal with the guy Disregarding your spelling mistakes, you proudly declare that you put me on ignore only for you to post this? Originally posted by MrMind
although sometimes i do question how does a great country like canada could produce such disappointment. You m@#$%rf@cking piece of sh1t! How dare you!!!!!!!!! I should goddamn #@$%ing report you for suggesting I am Canadian!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/06/58/14/065814a09b81a9bb6d9fa6c5439da095.gif

Ffs, mods. Surely... surely accusing a KMC poster of being Canadian is a permanently bannable offense? Must I escalate this to Impediment?!?!?!?!

uhuh

MrMind
wait...you are not canadian?

then wtf with all those letterkenny gifs you used to spam

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
Yawn, literally every argument you have is already dismantled Well, when all you can do is impotently reverse-project your utter deconstruction, that's when all constructive discussion ends. Not the first time that's happened on KMC (especially when it concerns you, lol).

You were fact-checked to e-oblivion. Your own attempted comparison of Darkseid vs. Odin not only fell flat on its face but utterly backfired... on a scale of one to a billion billion. Like... I didn't demand we compare Odin's resurrection's abilities to Darkseid's. You did. Which resulted in a spectacular explosion of self-infilicted asininity.

How much further are you going to extend this complete humiliation over a completely uncontroversial and innocuous feat comparison? Only the relentless abhigog can reveal. The combined butthurt of a dozen dozen DC fanboys, after all.

ODG
Originally posted by MrMind
wait...you are not canadian?

then wtf with all those letterkenny gifs you used to spam Didn't your dumba$$ put me on ignore? Or are you playing hide-and-seek?

https://y.yarn.co/2311459f-9659-4120-8834-c1b7f8f443c5_text.gif

Smurph
Originally posted by abhilegend
What did Thor v2 65 specified? Does Thor have personal resurrection capability that he failed to do? Did he have lesser Odinforce than Odin?

What exactly is your argument here? My argument is that you're a bullshitter. As usual, you insist on an interpretation that requires ignoring parts of the very comic you're citing. It's like talking to h1. There's no debate if there's no good faith.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Well, when all you can do is impotently reverse-project your utter deconstruction, that's when all constructive discussion ends. Not the first time that's happened on KMC (especially when it concerns you, lol).

You were fact-checked to e-oblivion. Your own attempted comparison of Darkseid vs. Odin not only fell flat on its face but utterly backfired... on a scale of one to a billion billion. Like... I didn't demand we compare Odin's resurrection's abilities to Darkseid's. You did. Which resulted in a spectacular explosion of self-infilicted asininity.

How much further are you going to extend this complete humiliation over a completely uncontroversial and innocuous feat comparison? Only the relentless abhigog can reveal. The combined butthurt of a dozen dozen DC fanboys, after all.
laughing out loud

You've got nothing, so it's shorten up the quote and fill the post of yours with nothing but gibberish like a baboon. Interesting tactic but it'll not lessen the size of your L bozo. Here's the summary of the thread :

Here's the actual comic.

https://i.postimg.cc/0zyH64g5/RCO019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/DSpp1cFr/RCO020.jpg

Here's official marvel handbook confirming what I said, Mangog was merely a prison for his entire race and Odin set him free.

https://i.postimg.cc/KRqC5bD3/image.jpg

Here's your own scan confirming that Mangog's race was exiled.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Mangog01.jpg

Then you chimped out and posted an out of context scan narration from Malekith and that's your sole proof.

That's it, that's the whole thread.

This was just one simple feat of Darkseid and you chimped out like the dumb ape that you are. Don't worry, I'm just getting started.

Smurph
Originally posted by ODG
Didn't your dumba$$ put me on ignore? Or are you playing hide-and-seek?

https://y.yarn.co/2311459f-9659-4120-8834-c1b7f8f443c5_text.gif He puts you on ignore so that he can go to the extra step of clicking the button to see each post.

Lets him hold out hope for a little longer that something in the post is about him.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Smurph
My argument is that you're a bullshitter.
Wow, what an argument.

LMAO, like I said, you have nothing. Keep moving along.

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
You've got nothing, so it's shorten up the quote and fill the post of yours with nothing but gibberish like a baboon. Interesting tactic but it'll not lessen the size of your L bozo. Here's the summary of the thread :

Here's the actual comic.

Here's official marvel handbook confirming what I said, Mangog was merely a prison for his entire race and Odin set him free.

Then you chimped out and posted an out of context scan narration from Malekith and that's your sole proof.

That's it, that's the whole thread.

This was just one simple feat of Darkseid and you chimped out like the dumb ape that you are. Don't worry, I'm just getting started. This retort is so pathetically impotent due to how it's already been previously dismantled, I'm beginning to legitimately feel sad for you.

Your facile attempts to save face fall flat given the comics we're discussing. You cannot rewrite the history of this simple discussion that has gone so poorly for you at every turn. Who are you even trying to convince anymore? Needlessly extending this conversation with sh1t posts won't actually infuse our "debate" with any veneer of actual controversy.

Any supposed controversy ended as soon as I started posting scans.

Now despite how patronizing that sounds actually is, I am willing to accede that "we agree to disagree". Yea?

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
Wow, what an argument. It's not an argument. It's a condemnation. One that is richly deserved and affirmed given the simple course of this thread. Originally posted by abhigog
LMAO, like I said, you have nothing. Keep moving along. The sheer phucking irony. It astounds. Originally posted by Smurph
He puts you on ignore so that he can go to the extra step of clicking the button to see each post.

Lets him hold out hope for a little longer that something in the post is about him. He never put me on ignore in the first place. That's been my experience with KMC posters who so loudly declare they put me on ignore. abhigog is among that esteemed company.

He loudly declared I was on ignore than unignored me not a month later and proceeded to chase me across 10+ years and 200+ posts. Keep in mind, I was even inactive for a majority of that time and he couldn't help but respond/namedrop me.

MrMind
Originally posted by Smurph
He puts you on ignore so that he can go to the extra step of clicking the button to see each post.

Lets him hold out hope for a little longer that something in the post is about him.

keep white knighting odg smurph, it suits you

even the most vile incel needs a cheerleader

maybe if you do it hard enough odg will start licking your taint. after all

Originally posted by ODG
^ Your opinion is duly noted. On the other hand, I slavishly lick dirty taint. thumb up

ODG
Originally posted by MrMind
keep white knighting odg smurph, it suits you

Even the most vile incel needs a cheerleader

maybe if you do it hard enough odg will start licking your taint. after all Are you truly expecting Smurph to dignify this pitiful post bait with an actual response? Cmon now, he's clearly above such immature shenanigans.

I, on the other hand, have no such compunctions!

Not when it comes to exposing just how ironic your post is. You've been cheerleading abhigog incessantly these past few days. Why is that? Is it because (1) you're compelled to support your DC fanboy senpai when he's been dismantled, and/or (2) you're being antagonized via abhigog's inner monologue with you, and/or (3) you're afraid you're about to be banned for your sh1t and this is your last last hurrah?

Only time will tell, after all. shrug

MrMind
i .... should get banned for quoting the psychotic crap you been posting?

all i do on kmc is hanging with stilt and parm with occasionally posting of vs threads

Originally posted by ODG

I've actually been pming you pics of Senor Cage's dirty anus over these couple years to satisfy your thirst, you ungrateful b1tch.

and then you came along starting flame war with everybody, on a dying forum consist of less than 10 people, in your 50s yet behaving like a x-box live kid.
why are you the way you are, what happened to you in high school?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Lol...I pictured you guys all meeting up irl and immediately having an orgy. Good times

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
This retort is so pathetically impotent due to how it's already been previously dismantled, I'm beginning to legitimately feel sad for you.

I'm beginning to think you really are dumber than I thought possible.

laughing out loud

The delusions are staggering. Anyway as you scurried away from King Thor stuff, here's Odin himself confirming in Thor 456 that he can't give life or extend it.

https://i.postimg.cc/RN4mf8HQ/RCO021.jpg

Now what nigga?

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
It's not an argument. It's a condemnation. One that is richly deserved and affirmed given the simple course of this thread. The sheer phucking irony. It astounds. He never put me on ignore in the first place. That's been my experience with KMC posters who so loudly declare they put me on ignore. abhigog is among that esteemed company.

You're fighting for Smurph now? Who's a good little cheerleader, yes you are.

laughing out loud



You were randomly accusing people of being my sock after a decade, nigga please.

abhilegend
Another example, Marnot who was infused with the full power of Odin admits resurrection is beyond his capability.

https://i.postimg.cc/9rwFQgrY/RCO015.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mz48tnLz/RCO014.jpg

Thor v2 2/13.

abhilegend
Odin can't even resurrect an Asgardian if Hela has claimed them.

https://i.postimg.cc/vDdXthg8/RCO018.jpg

Thor 275.

leonidas
wellllll.....this was something. no expression

Smurph
Originally posted by leonidas
wellllll.....this was something. no expression just another thought-provoking and productive exchange of views here on KMC forums

Juntai

abhilegend
Originally posted by leonidas
wellllll.....this was something. no expression
We aim to please 😑😑

StiltmanFTW
Leon right now:

https://i.ibb.co/GcQzCcn/x0vuqVU.gif

leonidas
i'm beginning to think you must be wonderman's sock....

batdude123
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't think people called him Jobberseid cause of a single loss to Supes, pretty sure it was a combination of his have issues with Supes a few times...

I can reconcile this point. Both Marvel fanboys and DS fanboys typically underestimate how powerful Superman actually is.

ODG
^ Darkseid fanboys underestimate Superman's power? Scaling off of Superman forms like 90% of this forum's estimation of Darkseid, bruh. Originally posted by abhilegend
The delusions are staggering. Anyway as you scurried away from King Thor stuff, here's Odin himself confirming in Thor 456 that he can't give life or extend it.

https://postimg.cc/RN4mf8HQ

Now what nigga? So he revived Heimdall from near death and this disproves the several times Odin has resurrected people? Let alone the billion billion beings that originally comprised Mangog? This character statement by Odin does not eliminate his previous feats of on-panel resurrection. Originally posted by abhilegend
You're fighting for Smurph now? Who's a good little cheerleader, yes you are. Smurph is mah senpai, bro.

https://media.tenor.com/m7uBzWvVUakAAAAM/nagatoro-pointing.gif

Originally posted by abhilegend
You were randomly accusing people of being my sock after a decade, nigga please. Yes I did. But after re-engaging you after a decade I am beginning to realize what wretched depths you were reduced to by everybody else on KMC. The years have not been kind to you, bruh.

You are strongly proving to be far and away more deranged and retarded than qwertyuiop1998. thumb up

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Another example, Marnot who was infused with the full power of Odin admits resurrection is beyond his capability.

https://postimg.cc/9rwFQgrY
https://postimg.cc/mz48tnLz

Thor v2 2/13. Marnot ain't Odin. He's a raven of Odin's. Not even one of the famous ones like Hugin and Munin. And there he is threatening Hela's grasp over Thor's soul of all things. A limitation you previously tried to hold against Odin.

But before dissecting that self-wrought ouroboros of phail, why exactly should Marnot's character statements be held against Odin himself? I mean... Odinforce Thor actually resurrected Odin from death in Thor #618:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Odinpower04.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Odinpower05.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Odinpower06.jpg

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
Odin can't even resurrect an Asgardian if Hela has claimed them.

https://postimg.cc/vDdXthg8

Thor 275. There might've been an argument that Odin was powerless before Hela's dominion over Asgardian souls. That is until you yourself posted Marnot denying Hela's grasp over Thor when the Destroyer outright killed Thor. And that is if you somehow ignored the scan I previously posted where Odin resurrected Hela herself after she died.

There might've been an argument.

The better argument to reconcile these comics is that Odin is not meant to deny Hela's rightful dominion over certain Asgardian souls. Hela, along with the realm of Valhalla proper, serves cherished functions that define the Asgardian mythology/hierarchy.

So Odin's statement might be less about his inability and more about his respecting their proper roles.

To me, that's the better argument because it resolves the seeming contradiction in scenes you desperately relied on in a one-sided manner. Your argument cannot reconcile anything. But you're not trying to reconcile anything in good faith. You're just posting old scans with arbitrary interpretations. Which, I mean, we could readily dismiss given there are more recent scans that reverse course.

But see, the clear difference between you and I is that I accept their entire on-panel history as a whole and am willing to offer possible logical reconciliation. Whereas you are just cherrypicking decades old scans that you apparently saved from years of slavishly butthurt research.

Is this what your self-declared superior knowledge of Thor over me amounts to?Supposed golden nuggets of comics minutiae you've discovered out of sheer obsessive spite without (i) bothering to interpret them in the fullest context of a character's entire history, or (ii) recognizing how outdated they are by current comics?

All this wasted butthurt over trying to save your self-inflicted comparison of the resurrection abilities of Darkseid vs. Odin. Honestly couldn't have possibly picked a worse comparison given their on-panel histories. Keep digging, you unfailing schmuck.

batdude123
Originally posted by ODG
^ Darkseid fanboys underestimate Superman's power? Scaling off of Superman forms like 90% of this forum's estimation of Darkseid, bruh.

I think a majority of them would categorize a Darkseid loss to Superman as "jobbing" or a low showing, which sort of proves my point. As opposed to rightfully suggesting Superman is on his level (or perhaps a bit above).

ODG

ODG
Originally posted by batdude123
I think a majority of them would categorize a Darkseid loss to Superman as "jobbing" or a low showing, which sort of proves my point. As opposed to rightfully suggesting Superman is on his level (or perhaps a bit above). https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Pointing01.webp

Juntai

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
^ Darkseid fanboys underestimate Superman's power? Scaling off of Superman forms like 90% of this forum's estimation of Darkseid, bruh. So he revived Heimdall from near death and this disproves the several times Odin has resurrected people? Let alone the billion billion beings that originally comprised Mangog? This character statement by Odin does not eliminate his previous feats of on-panel resurrection. .

Dude went from not accepting handbooks then not accepting statements from King Thor to not even accepting outright statements from Odin himself in comics.

Nothing can be done to cure delusions of this level.

laughing out loud

I'm beating your ass in the discussion regarding your favorite character, I'm doing great.

laughing

Were you always this retarded, I don't think I have seen this level of delusion even in quanchi.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Marnot ain't Odin. He's a raven of Odin's. Not even one of the famous ones like Hugin and Munin. And there he is threatening Hela's grasp over Thor's soul of all things. A limitation you previously tried to hold against Odin.

He was able to do that because Thor wasn't totally dead, he had a spark of life.

Odin was in Valhalla, not in Hel which is Hela's domain. I thought you were a Thor fan lol.

But I guess now Odinforce Thor's feats can be transferred to Odin, huh?

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
There might've been an argument that Odin was powerless before Hela's dominion over Asgardian souls. That is until you yourself posted Marnot denying Hela's grasp over Thor when the Destroyer outright killed Thor.
Thor wasn't fully dead as explained.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pZJW2iap5iE/VntSbkMytWI/AAAAAAAAhFo/BQ6mApfl0mg/s1600-Ic42/RCO013.jpg
Are you sure you are a Thor fan?


Retconned away by Thor 275.

Hahahahahaha, denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Lol, lmao even. Dude is posting stuff from 60s (Incredible Hulk 102) and complaining about me posting decades old stuff.

Well at least you accepted that I have superior knowledge of Thor compared to you. That's progress I guess.

Yes, I will. Let's see how many comic scans you can pretend don't exist or simply Odin being respectful.

Take the L after L bozo.

MrMind
odg is the epitome of "if i can get the last word in, i'd win"

type retard

rare one, in 2024, but still exists, in this antique forum.

ODG
^ Are you still here? Originally posted by abhigog
Dude went from not accepting handbooks then not accepting statements from King Thor to not even accepting outright statements from Odin himself in comics. I accept them for whatever probative value they present on their face. But even then, none of them override clear on-panel feats. Originally posted by abhigog
Nothing can be done to cure delusions of this level.

I'm beating your ass in the discussion regarding your favorite character, I'm doing great.

Were you always this retarded, I don't think I have seen this level of delusion even in quanchi. Oh have we reached the stage where you just abjectly flame me in the hopes of getting mods to shut this discussion down because you have nothing further to constructively offer? How predictable. Originally posted by abhigog
He was able to do that because Thor wasn't totally dead, he had a spark of life. Oh, this is true. Originally posted by abhigog
Odin was in Valhalla, not in Hel which is Hela's domain. I thought you were a Thor fan lol. Odin was not in Valhalla. Beings like Surtur and the Hellhound don't dwell in Valhalla. Also, Valhalla is a much nicer place than the burnt wasteland desolation Odin had been confined to. Originally posted by abhigog
But I guess now Odinforce Thor's feats can be transferred to Odin, huh? What an oafish strawman. You were the one trying to project King Thor and Odinforce Thor's self-declared limitations onto Odin. Now you're confronted by on-panel Odinforce feats that show such self-declarations proved false. It's as simple as that.

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
Retconned away by Thor 275. Repeating a thoroughly deconstructed myth isn't a winning strategy. Nor does a contrived discrepancy between a character statement and a clear on-panel feat serve as a "retcon".

Had Odin perhaps said, "Once in the past, I thought I had killed Hela and restored her to life but that actually never happened!" Yeah, maybe. But he didn't say that. Nor really anything close to what you're suggesting.

Odin is not meant to deny Hela's rightful dominion over certain Asgardian souls. They have their roles reserved for their reappearance during Ragnarok. It's literally a core foundation of Norse mythology reinforced several times by Marvel's take on it.

But your indiscriminate bastardization over the term "retcon" is so damningly hypocritical. Aren't you among the sobbing trolls that cry that DC's massively famous retcons don't apply to certain history or were completely undone by random allusions? DC's most famous retcons are so easily handwaved away, it seems.

Yet you twist completely innocuous Marvel scenes as though they were also complete retcons of on-panel Marvel history. And then you won't even countenance subsequent on-panel feats that completely upend any laughable notion that such a "retcon" existed in the first place. What happened to your casual attitude towards retcons? Oh, wait.

Both your motivations and resentment are so transparent. You are constitutionally incapable of discussing anything in good faith. You just obsessively pore through old comic books for little nuggets of comic minutiae that you can twist around to denigrate Marvel characters.

You are the figurative literal KMC troll mining caverns for fool's gold. Which wouldn't be half as offensive if you didn't waddle into every vs thread trying to peddle it for fake e-rep points with your obnoxious schtick.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
^ Are you still here? I accept them for whatever probative value they present on their face. But even then, none of them override clear on-panel feats.
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So just like everything else, you only accept what's convenient for you.
Flame you? Oh no, is the poor dumb guy getting insulted now?

Hahahahahaha, such a timid way to accepting defeat.

What a strawman, wherever he was it wasn't under domain of Hela.

And now you're trying to project Odinforce Thor's feats on Odin once I proved Odin has the same limitations lol.

You proved nothing biatch.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
Repeating a thoroughly deconstructed myth isn't a winning strategy. Nor does a contrived discrepancy between a character statement and a clear on-panel feat serve as a "retcon".

Thor 275 clearly established Odin can't resurrect an Asgardian once he's under the control of Hela. It retcons any previous depictions of Odin killing and resurrecting Hela herself. Take it with marvel, I don't publish these comics.
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"Leave poor marvel comics alone, why don't you do the same to DC".

crylaugh

Are you done with the poor, victimised marvel fan routine? Because this is just sad.

Smurph
Originally posted by ODG

Both your motivations and resentment are so transparent. You are constitutionally incapable of discussing anything in good faith. You just obsessively pore through old comic books for little nuggets of comic minutiae that you can twist around to denigrate Marvel characters.

You are the figurative literal KMC troll mining caverns for fool's gold. Which wouldn't be half as offensive if you didn't waddle into every vs thread trying to peddle it for fake e-rep points with your obnoxious schtick. lol this is so exactly right

abhilegend
Originally posted by Smurph
lol this is so exactly right
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Poor marvel characters, they suffer so badly at my hands. 😞😞😞

ODG
Originally posted by abhigog
So just like everything else, you only accept what's convenient for you. The irony is palpable. Sad thing is, not even you are so deluded to believe so. You're just posting to manufacture some veneer of controversy as if your position hasn''t been utterly deconstructed over and over. I wonder who is your facile performance for at this point? Your peanut gallery which consists of... MrMind and... and... err... ? Originally posted by abhigog
Flame you? Oh no, is the poor dumb guy getting insulted now? Yes, there have been KMC posters who are left with no avenue of escape out of a simple conversation over comic facts. And a tactic I've seen is when they decide to drag down the entire discussion thread towards flaming in the hopes it gets shut down to limit their continuing embarrasment.Originally posted by abhigog
Hahahahahaha, such a timid way to accepting defeat.

What a strawman, wherever he was it wasn't under domain of Hela. Defeat? You were correct that Thor had a spark of life when Marnot confronted Hela. Doesn't really change the course of the argument.

Strawman??? You were just wrong that Odin was in Valhalla. Why act so butthurt over it? It was a simple oversight on your part. No need to extend it beyond that. In the end, Odin not being under domain of Hela is irrelevant. Odinforce Thor resurrected Odin despite your claim that he could not revive any Asgardians. Originally posted by abhigog
And now you're trying to project Odinforce Thor's feats on Odin once I proved Odin has the same limitations lol.

You proved nothing biatch. I mean, you can keep trying to rewrite the history of this conversation but I was only replying to your fallacious reverse-projection of King/Odinforce Thor's limits upon Odin. If anything is a strawman, it's this.

ODG
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor 275 clearly established Odin can't resurrect an Asgardian once he's under the control of Hela. It retcons any previous depictions of Odin killing and resurrecting Hela herself. Take it with marvel, I don't publish these comics. The leaps in logic you rely on to peddle this myth have been thoroughly dispelled already. Yet, even if you want to act like Odin killing/resurrecting Hela was retconned as if it never happened???, Odin still resurrected Hulk and a billion billion aliens.

You can try to obfuscate over your own self-inflicted prevarications but bottom-line is this: the genesis of this trainwreck for you was your insistence that Darkseid resurrecting a human girl was exceptional when measured against Odin... who has resurrected a billion billion aliens, Hulk and Hela all on-panel.

That absolute phail of a comparison was of your own doing. You set that goalpost.
And there's nothing left to be said about it. Keep trying to prove Darkseid is on Odin's level. But choose a different tact.

Granted, if your opening gambit was a prologue, nobody here is expecting much, pal.

ODG
Originally posted by Smurph
lol this is so exactly right https://www.hda-habbo.com/uploads/1/2/0/9/120985243/764243199.gif

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
The irony is palpable. Sad thing is, not even you are so deluded to believe so. You're just posting to manufacture some veneer of controversy as if your position hasn''t been utterly deconstructed over and over.
Deconstruct? Biatch please, you can't even refute Odin's direct statement of unable to resurrect TWICE other than "I don't accept it".
This is just gibberish.

Of course it does.
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That wasn't even the point lmao. Odin being or not being in Valhalla matters not, him being under Hela's control matters.
Who decided that it is irrelevant? You?
I posted Odin saying that, you retard. I didn't claim anything.

Don't need to, I already posted Odin confirming the same limit TWICE. You can seethe over it for eternity.

ODG
^ So in the end, you're comparing Darkseid resurrecting a human girl vs Odin resurrecting Hulk, a billion billion beings and Hela.

Ok? Great job repping Darkseid, schmuck. thumb up

abhilegend
Mind you Odin was in Limbo as confirmed by the recap page of Thor 619. Thor merely freed him by smashing his casket.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Yop7AgE2ck8/VntlFBNo2eI/AAAAAAAAmZg/7ZHDkCudpJ4/s1600-Ic42/RCO002.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
The leaps in logic you rely on to peddle this myth have been thoroughly dispelled already. Yet, even if you want to act like Odin killing/resurrecting Hela was retconned as if it never happened???, Odin still resurrected Hulk and a billion billion aliens.

Hulk's resurrection is due to green door, he never resurrected Mangog's race as confirmed by both comics and handbooks.

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Everything you said here is debunked already, you can repeat the same crap any number of times you want, it matters not.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ODG
^ So in the end, you're comparing Darkseid resurrecting a human girl vs Odin resurrecting Hulk, a billion billion beings and Hela.

Ok? Great job repping Darkseid, schmuck. thumb up
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All three instances debunked or retconned away, Odin confirmed twice that he can't do resurrections in Thor 275 and Thor 456. I won't even use plethora of supplementary support such as handbooks confirming it, Marnot confirming it, King Thor and Odinforce Thor confirming it repeatedly. You can't even refute Odin's direct statements.

Good job Dumbo.

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