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Quite embarrassing for Turkey. Every reasonable person and anyone with any basic knowledge of history knows genocide occurred. Their continued refusal to acknowledge it is pathetic and cowardly.

It's lose/lose for them, I guess. Admit they killed a million+ people in an act of barbaric genocide, or go on lying and looking desperate and foolish in the face of mounds and mounds of evidence that it did actually happen.

Hell, it's even taught as "The Armenian Genocide" in History classes.

As for their threats, it reminds me of what a spoiled child may say - "Do what I say or I'm going to hold my breath!!!!"

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Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don;t think its about being 'powerful' in size. IF hypothetically speaking, USA is to go against Turkey, I think it will have far more on its back, than just Turkey.



Yeah...but why are they doing this **** now?

dissapointed again with washington.

Washington should apologise for Custer and co slaughtering The Native Americans as they did ironic That it was the Natives who gave the settlers succor in their darkest hour which is remembered at the Time of Thanksgiving.

Id favour Washington to shut the hell up knuckle down and concentrate on Returning the Soldiers from where they're not welcome, Jena Cleveland The Economy The Environment coz washington has been running away from its Kyoto pollution committments for how long now...

Al Gores not doing too bad right now.

Originally posted by don't shiv


Id favour Washington to shut the hell up knuckle down and concentrate on Returning the Soldiers from where they're not welcome



You know what I mean?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah...but why are they doing this **** now?

Bad strategy...im guessing.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Bad strategy...im guessing.

Yeah but its like its so bad you got to wonder are they doing this **** unpurpose? I mean its like if you want to rob a bank you shouldnt do it in the first place but if you are going to do it at least execute it properly. Its like they're doing wrong and they cant even do whats wrong correctly.

I don't think anyone denies any longer that there were atrocities committed against the Native American population of North America...

People always throw around the "oh, they don't teach you that in school" but to be honest, since grade 7 I was taught in school about the negative policy that immigrating Europeans had toward the natives.

and, imho, in this situation, Turkey has America by the balls because of Iraq, but might be shooting themselves in the foot with regards to joining the EU

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah but its like its so bad you got to wonder are they doing this **** unpurpose? I mean its like if you want to rob a bank you shouldnt do it in the first place but if you are going to do it at least execute it properly. Its like they're doing wrong and they cant even do whats wrong correctly.

don't confuse the fact that you disagree with what the Turks are saying with the idea that they are committing political suicide.

America NEEDS the Turks right now.

Originally posted by inimalist
don't confuse the fact that you disagree with what the Turks are saying with the idea that they are committing political suicide.

Er....im not.

Originally posted by inimalist

America NEEDS the Turks right now.

Bro....thats my point. I disagree with the Turks but why the hell are America doing this now, when it could cause trouble.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Er....im not.



Bro....thats my point. I disagree with the Turks but why the hell are America doing this now, when it could cause trouble.

lol, note to self, read...

sorry

Originally posted by inimalist
lol, note to self, read...

sorry

No worries.

Originally posted by BackFire
Quite embarrassing for Turkey. Every reasonable person and anyone with any basic knowledge of history knows genocide occurred. Their continued refusal to acknowledge it is pathetic and cowardly.

It's lose/lose for them, I guess. Admit they killed a million+ people in an act of barbaric genocide, or go on lying and looking desperate and foolish in the face of mounds and mounds of evidence that it did actually happen.

Hell, it's even taught as "The Armenian Genocide" in History classes.

As for their threats, it reminds me of what a spoiled child may say - "Do what I say or I'm going to hold my breath!!!!"


believe it or not, i guess they are putting on a demonstration to be more acceptable to the european nations, and just yesterday (on npr) i heard that turkey maybe charged with the genocide of Armenians.

"A diplomatic rift between Turkey and the United States deepened Friday after Ankara recalled its ambassador to Washington over a vote in the US Congress to label the massacre of Armenians by the Ottoman Turks an act of genocide"


http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jQfxBuJY_R8zt2PuHCqSuLa_9glQ

Originally posted by inimalist
I don't think anyone denies any longer that there were atrocities committed against the Native American population of North America...

People always throw around the "oh, they don't teach you that in school" but to be honest, since grade 7 I was taught in school about the negative policy that immigrating Europeans had toward the natives.

and, imho, in this situation, Turkey has America by the balls because of Iraq, but might be shooting themselves in the foot with regards to joining the EU

Turkey won't be joining the EU any time soon. Several member nations have put a stop to that. Cyprus & France for instance, and some other country's have refused as well, my own for instance but that probably won't use a veto when it comes to it. Cyprus certainly will. What Turkey is doing now is hardly hurting it's changes of joining the EU.

The relationship between Turkey and the US however has probably hit a all time low. They want to invade Iraq, the US won't let them. They want to stop a Kurdish state, the US could really use one. Then there is this. If anything it would hurt Iraq... Turkey and the US won't do to much against each other. They still need each other.

Basic topical news thread. Some windbag will bore people with his/her views and claim expertise with this. Very "follow my leader stuff".

as a quarter armenian jew, all i can say is that it's about time (it only took congress 84 years or so) and that turkey had almost a century to make things right and admit that they were wrong. Instead, they still feel self righteous about killing over two million people in a swift and systematic genocide. They can go **** themselves

But what does this acknowledgment do? Nothing. It just raises tensions for no reason.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
as a quarter armenian jew, all i can say is that it's about time (it only took congress 84 years or so) and that turkey had almost a century to make things right and admit that they were wrong. Instead, they still feel self righteous about killing over two million people in a swift and systematic genocide. They can go **** themselves im Armenian and we brought this up at a terrible time.

It is just too piss people off. I hate it detracts from the real issue

Is Turkey joining the Coalition of the Willing?

LOL. First thing I thought of was a Turkey....lol

the vote may be part of a strategy by congress to erode support for the war in iraq.

Originally posted by Alliance
Is Turkey joining the Coalition of the Willing?

That was a cute phrase. I had forgotten about that.

And the lamest joke of the day is brought to you by WD.

"Turkey better watch it! Thanksgiving is only weeks away."


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That was the lamest joke of the day folks. Thank you and drive safe.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
And the lamest joke of the day is brought to you by WD.

"Turkey better watch it! Thanksgiving is only weeks away."


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That was the lamest joke of the day folks. Thank you and drive safe.