Classic Dr.Strange(With Eye of Aggamatto) v.s. HOM Scarlet Witch

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Sol Valentine
Who wins?

Mr Master
Wanda in a curbstomp.

King Kandy
I think Strange could win if he killed her before her brain had enough time to process a thought.

Sundipped
Dr. Strange no prob.

guy222
HOM Wanda FTW

Gecko4lif
wanda rapes strange

Mr Master
Originally posted by King Kandy
I think Strange could win if he killed her before her brain had enough time to process a thought.

Strange didn't even dare attempt to attack Wanda,
he was trying to use psychology (for like 7 pages)
to make her revert the 616 Universe to its normality.

Hawkeye delivered a kill-shot straight into Wanda's heart,
Wanda recovered instantly as though it never happened.

Ol' Strange knew what Wanda was capable of:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6681/w10if9.th.jpg
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And acted as such:


Even Wanda's kid, that she herself created from nothing, talks down to Strange:

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Strange was just another victim:

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Heck the entire Omniverse was a victim:

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As we both know, that Reality Wave,

was "the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp"

(excerpt from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe)
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1703/w9kr2.th.jpg

"During the Scarlet Witch's 'House of M' Reality Warp,

Jaspers Reformed alive merged with the Fury"

King Kandy
That's current Strange. We're talking about Classic here.

Mr Master
Originally posted by King Kandy
That's current Strange. We're talking about Classic here.

Difference?

None of them have come close (even remotely) to Wanda's feats.

King Kandy
Yeah, but one of them could shut her brain down before here neurons could interact with eachother to even BEGIN processing the thought of reality warping.

SuperiorTech
Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, but one of them could shut her brain down before here neurons could interact with eachother to even BEGIN processing the thought of reality warping.

And she could do the same to any of them probably faster.

Sundipped
Didn't he shut her down with the Eye of A momentarily after she pulled that Dorammau trick.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Sundipped
Didn't he shut her down with the Eye of A momentarily after she pulled that Dorammau trick.

No.

Mr Master
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
And she could do the same to any of them probably faster.

thumb up Indeed,

since when does Strange have greater than god-like reflexes anyway?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, but one of them could shut her brain down before here neurons could interact with eachother to even BEGIN processing the thought of reality warping.

What makes you think Strange can shut her brain down?

Her brain unwittingly crashed the entire Omniverse on its own.
She then wittingly re-created the Omniverse.

She can't be harmed.
She became an Omniversal god, and remade Marvel.

Why are we debating this?

King Kandy
I agree that she could depower Strange with a thought, or scatter his atoms across the Omniverse, or do any sort of thing she wanted to him... But I don't think she'll ever get the thought out. Strange has the fastest mind in marvel.

Sundipped
This is just Wanda gone insane due to the actions of her family. If Strange saw her as an immediate evil threat to the MU then he would destroy her but she was a member of the Avengers and he's a good guy. He instead tried to help her along with Xavier and others. It was contemplated by Wolverine that she should be killed like Jean, but unlike Jean it would be the end of her for good. She is only a mutant with probability powers.

Dr. Strange>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All mutants.

If Wanda was a real evil threat with no family ties to the mutants involved in House of M then Strange could easily stop her from just going insane with his tp powers +the Eye of A if he went all out. If that for some reason failed then his knowledge of black arts would no doubt destroy her.

Galan007
Originally posted by King Kandy
I think Strange could win if he killed her before her brain had enough time to process a thought. 'Kill her' like Hawkeye tried to do? confused

h1a8
One can have all the power in the world but can lose.
One example, if when the one with all the power is koed or killed before they can do a thing. Now wanda can certainly be instantly koed by someone like superman for she is not fast enough to respond. Classic Strange might be fast enough to stop time on her and then win at his leisure. After all, wanda still needs to use her imagination to what she wants to do and that takes time.

Galan007
Originally posted by h1a8
Classic Strange might be fast enough to stop time on her and then win at his leisure. Time is Wanda's play thing. srsly

Mr Master
Originally posted by King Kandy
I agree that she could depower Strange with a thought, or scatter his atoms across the Omniverse, or do any sort of thing she wanted to him...

But I don't think she'll ever get the thought out.
Strange has the fastest mind in marvel.

His speed is meaningless.

And what thought?

She's invulnerable from the get.
(Strange can do anything he wants first,
she'll simply smile at him instantly afterwards)

Originally posted by Sundipped
This is just Wanda gone insane due to the actions of her family. If Strange saw her as an immediate evil threat to the MU then he would destroy her but she was a member of the Avengers and he's a good guy.

Where is this stated?

Not in HOM or any of its tie-ins that's for sure.

Originally posted by Sundipped
He instead tried to help her along with Xavier and others.

Where is this stated.

Originally posted by Sundipped
It was contemplated by Wolverine that she should be killed like Jean,
but unlike Jean it would be the end of her for good.

laughing

Originally posted by Sundipped
She is only a mutant with probability powers.

During HOM, and everyone knows this,

Wanda Re-Created the Omniverse, On Panel and in many Bios confirmed.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Dr. Strange>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All mutants.

laughing out loud

You must be talking about Respect thread Dr Strange
(who for the most part doesn't exist)
Yea, he stalemated the IG, resisted the LT and defeated Eternity.

I'm sure, but not in Marvel comics.

Originally posted by Sundipped
If Wanda was a real evil threat with no family ties to the mutants involved in House of M then Strange could easily stop her from just going insane with his tp powers +the Eye of A if he went all out. If that for some reason failed then his knowledge of black arts would no doubt destroy her.

It's cool to speculate but unfortunately,
On Panel, none of that was possible.

Originally posted by Galan007
Time is Wanda's play thing. srsly

thumb up

And every other Concept. smile

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by Galan007
'Kill her' like Hawkeye tried to do? confused That Hawkeye kill, would count as a win, going by forum standards...ermm

Mr Master
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
That Hawkeye kill, would count as a win, going by forum standards...

If it would've killed her.

Wanda wasn't battle ready when that happened,
she was being distracted by Strange,
while consciously Warping the 616 Universe
and while subconsciously collapsing the Omniverse.

That's how Hawkeye got that arrow through.

The second arrow shot though, was a whole different story:


Oh I forgot,

she also had created and was controlling a separate Reality inside her domain,
to show Strange what Quicksilver said:

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4139/w1vy3.th.jpg


This scenario involving Quicksilver lasted 4 pages:
(a separate Reality of its own as I said also being manipulated by Wanda)

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Wanda becomes very emotional:

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This is when Hawkeye sneaks up on her:

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While she's controlling Reality Outside, destroying All Reality outside of that,
Created/manipulating a Reality Inside and on top of that,
she just went through FOUR pages of emotional turmoil:
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Hawkeye shot Wanda dead in the Heart with what he called was a "Kill Shot"

Seems like she's dead:

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1153/w7sc2.th.jpg

Notice the arrows Position, right on the side of the Heart.

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Hawkeye came to KILL, READ the scan.


But she CAN'T Die .. arrow in her back deconstructs ... everything is as was:


"If I couldn't KILL you"...
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Hawkeye shot another arrow, almost immediately after the first:

THIS time ... Wanda KNEW it was coming, observe the difference now:

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Wanda breaks Hawkeye up into little blocks ... forget the arrow:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9418/w9cn5.th.jpg

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by Mr Master
If it would've killed her.

Wanda wasn't battle ready when that happened,
she was being distracted by Strange,
while consciously Warping the 616 Universe
and while subconsciously collapsing the Omniverse.
I'm just saying, when she went down, it would have counted as her being KO'ed, or taken out if that was a forum battle.

The scans, and explantions weren't needed.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
I'm just saying, when she went down, it would have counted as her being KO'ed, or taken out if that was a forum battle.

Like I said,

if Wanda is battle ready (like the second arrow) no one is touching her.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
The scans, and explantions weren't needed.

Obviously they were, since you returned with the same speculation.

And they're pretty so others can enjoy them. smile

Harry Fingerman
Originally posted by Mr Master
Like I said,

if Wanda is battle ready (like the second arrow) no one is touching her.



Obviously they were, since you returned with the same speculation.

And they're pretty so others can enjoy them. smile So?

Someone said that he would kill her, and Galan said:
"'Kill her' like Hawkeye tried to do? confused "

And, like I said, the time Hawkeye did hit her, it would count as a win on the forum.
I'm also referring to it as if Galan was talking about the first arrow.


Umm... how exactly is that speculation? confused
You mean, when she went down from Hawkeye, I was just speculating that it would have counted as a win on teh forum?

Mr Master
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
So?

Someone said that he would kill her, and Galan said:
"'Kill her' like Hawkeye tried to do?"

I think he was pointing out that she can't be killed.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
And, like I said, the time Hawkeye did hit her, it would count as a win on the forum.

I know, but that was the purpose of the scans and explanation,
there was a reason behind Hawkeye being able to hit her with the arrow.

Unless the thread starter considers the exact circumstances taking place
as in that particular incident with Hawkeye,
Wanda can't be harmed. (she wasn't really harmed anyway)

This was proven when she became battle ready (forum rules as well)
with the second arrow.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
I'm also referring to it as if Galan was talking about the first arrow.

In that case, under those exact circumstances, I agree then.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Umm... how exactly is that speculation?
You mean, when she went down from Hawkeye, I was just speculating that it would have counted as a win on teh forum?

The speculation?
(her getting ko'd for the win based on that moment with Hawkeye)

But, I now got what you're saying.
And you're right, but the fight would have to begin with the same scenerio,
and I just doubt a thread starter would do that.

That's like a playstation cheese move.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Galan007
Time is Wanda's play thing. srsly Only if she has time to play with it.

King Kandy
Also, just because she can survive an arrow, doesn't mean she can survive Dr. Strange's spells.

Mr Master
Spells?

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_chaoswave1.jpg

Time to say, Night yall.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Mr Master
Spells?

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_chaoswave1.jpg

Time to say, Night yall.
Well it's SURE A GOOD THING that he'd kill her before she had a chance to do that.

2damnloud
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well it's SURE A GOOD THING that he'd kill her before she had a chance to do that.

dur

Sundipped
Originally posted by Mr Master

Where is this stated?

Not in HOM or any of its tie-ins that's for sure.

Actually it was due to the actions of some Avengers members but her family did contribute to the madness.




Did they not go searching for her? Did Xavier not call a meeting on what her fate should be? To live or die? confused



What? Is SW immortal or something? SW is flesh and bones. Do u know what Strange could do to that while in astral form?



Yeah she went crazy and had a moment of glory for a little while. Now she's powerless living in a village with no memory whatsoever. How's her tp defenses? Xavier put her in a coma. She is still a mutant w/probability and magic powers. The magic aids her probability powers but if Strange absorbed it her power level would dip =ling less probability.



Then what comics are they? Resisting LT was a legit feat. Who said he defeated Eternity? Is that how u interpeted the encounter? I did see him defeat Shuma using the black arts tho. That Strange really exists. Shuma > >>>>SW.



It wasn't possible because he didn't try black magic on panel. Doesn't mean he couldn't do it. That's for last resort vs. evil entities. If SW was evil and Strange tried that, SW would go from insane to powerless to banished and/or destroyed. A mind so fragile as SW's during this period should be easy pickings for Stranges tp + the Eye. Wouldn't make for a good read if he just ended like that tho would it?

Mr Master
Originally posted by Sundipped
Actually it was due to the actions of some Avengers members but her family did contribute to the madness.

I never said she wasn't losing her marbles,
but she wasn't a complete mumbling fool either.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Did they not go searching for her? Did Xavier not call a meeting on what her fate should be? To live or die?

Just cause X called a meeting,
didn't mean they were capable of accomplishing their desires.

As we found out, they were all insects to Wanda.

In fact, Wanda was giving them all their dreams,
as for X, Wanda actaully made him more powerful,
just by him arriving in Genosha: (where Wanda was situated)

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2752/w21gb8.th.jpg

Originally posted by Sundipped
What? Is SW immortal or something?

In HOM? Yea.
(Hawkeye shot an arrow with the intent to kill right into her heart while she was distarcted)
guess what happened? Nothing really.

Originally posted by Sundipped
SW is flesh and bones.

If she wishes to be, she can be anything she wants.

She made copies of herself, she entered the Astral plane at will and on and on.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Do u know what Strange could do to that while in astral form?

Absolutely nothing,
since Wanda can perceive Strange even while in the Astral Plane,
as though he were in the physical plane:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6049/49358648tg8.th.jpg

Oh my, Wanda is no joke.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Yeah she went crazy and had a moment of glory for a little while. Now she's powerless living in a village with no memory whatsoever. How's her tp defenses? Xavier put her in a coma. She is still a mutant w/probability and magic powers. The magic aids her probability powers but if Strange absorbed it her power level would dip =ling less probability.

Thread starter said HOM Wanda, not current.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Then what comics are they? Resisting LT was a legit feat.

Strange never resisted the LT.

LT was just testing Strange with minute traps to see if he was worthy of saving Earth:

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LT was never trying to harm Strange,
he was testing him to see if he had it in him to save the Planet Earth
before LT Erased it.


This is the big wow of the issue for Strange,
he breaks free from the Rings of Raggadorr that LT trapped him in:

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LT here gives Strange another Test, he's Not trying to Harm him in anyway:

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"Let it then be the Final TEST of my Powers"
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Strange says about LT.....

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"I sense a Boundless Force"

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So LT sends Dr Strange on his mission or else:

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Strange PLEADS while paying Homage to LT,
to spare the Earth momentarily while he tries to fix what's wrong:

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Originally posted by Sundipped
Who said he defeated Eternity? Is that how u interpeted the encounter?

The respect thread.

And no, I actually brought to light the truth about the LT, IG and Eternity.

Originally posted by Sundipped
I did see him defeat Shuma using the black arts tho.
That Strange really exists.

So did I, I have the issue.

Shuma is overrated.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Shuma > >>>>SW.

Current? I agree.

HOM Wanda >to Infinity> Shuma

Originally posted by Sundipped
It wasn't possible because he didn't try black magic on panel. Doesn't mean he couldn't do it. That's for last resort vs. evil entities. If SW was evil and Strange tried that, SW would go from insane to powerless to banished and/or destroyed.

Interesting, he didn't seem to hold back during Avengers Disassemble.
In fact, he tried killing that weaker Wanda by frying her brain,
and even that weaker Wanda survived and recovered.
And that was just because she was killing a few Avengers. :smile

But now that All of Reality (the Omniverse) is on the line,
you believe he was holding back. Ok.

Originally posted by Sundipped
A mind so fragile as SW's during this period should be easy pickings for Stranges tp + the Eye. Wouldn't make for a good read if he just ended like that tho would it?

Easy pickings? Ok.

That's your opinion, and that's cool.

But the fact is, Strange had his little "Eye" during HOM, didn't help him none.

starlock
Classic Strange for the win

Wanda needed xavier for HOM, say what you want, she needed him, classic strange without the universe to worry about, in a forum match would beat hom wanda...imo

Mr Master
Originally posted by starlock
Classic Strange for the win

HOM Wanda ftw in a horrific stomp.

Originally posted by starlock
Wanda needed xavier for HOM, say what you want, she needed him,

Wanda never needed X to increase HIS power (which she did, as I presented above)

Wanda never needed X to accelerate Genis' potential
(she had him blinking the Universe in and out of existence) laughing out loud

Wanda never needed X to create a pocket Reality withIn her domain,
just to show Dr Strange what Quicksilver had said.

Wanda never needed X to Remake the 616 Universe

Wanda never needed X to collapse the Omniverse.

Wanda never needed X to Re-create the Omniverse.
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The only thing Wanda used X for was to learn about the desires of heroes,
which then ON HER OWN, she delivered their dreams to them,

uhh, including X himself:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2737/w3dq4.th.jpg


Xavier thinks he's Dreaming at first:

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7985/w4wg7.th.jpg


Here Gaby tells him she's existing in another Reality simultaneously,
because of Wanda:

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8683/w5au3.th.jpg

Originally posted by starlock
classic strange without the universe to worry about,
in a forum match would beat hom wanda...imo

Classic Strange with or without the Full back of the Vishanti, (or whoever)
get's curbstomped every which way from sunday against HOM Wanda.

Not imo, in Fact.

Eterntiy, the Vishanti, whoever, were all just victims of Wanda, . smile

The entire Omniverse was boombashed by Wanda On Panel.

Galan007
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
That Hawkeye kill, would count as a win, going by forum standards...ermm Even though she came back in a very "reasonable amount of time"? umm


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Meh, that wasn't even my point...


This was the statement made:
Originally posted by King Kandy
I think Strange could win if he killed her before her brain had enough time to process a thought.

This is what I replied with:
Originally posted by Galan007
'Kill her' like Hawkeye tried to do? confused


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This is the instance I was referencing:

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Wanda wasn't 'killed' -- Because she can't die. smile

Sundipped
Not to take anything away from Wanda she did some incredible stuff going crazy in the brain but all this means is that she has a brain without strong telepathic resistance that was fried by Proff X and Strange.

In a all out battle on these boards and knowing what her powers are Strange would molest/sodimise/brutally rape Wanda with tp with total disregard for how her family feels, how the Avengers feel, and her seeking some kind of help.

h1a8
Originally posted by Mr Master
His speed is meaningless.

And what thought?

She's invulnerable from the get.
(Strange can do anything he wants first,
she'll simply smile at him instantly afterwards)





Prove to me that Wanda can take a mere bullet to the brain and live.
And don't show me where she was shot through the heart or something(non brain) and lived as she can just heal herself (making it not even happened).

In other words, prove this statement wrong:

Something instantly affecting her brain would prevent her from using her powers and thus she can die.

Mr Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Prove to me that Wanda can take a mere bullet to the brain and live.
And don't show me where she was shot through the heart or something(non brain) and lived as she can just heal herself (making it not even happened).

In other words, prove this statement wrong:

Something instantly affecting her brain would prevent her from using her powers and thus she can die.

In the Avengers Disassembled arc,

Dr Strange completely fried the brain of a weaker Wanda.
(she was only able to kill a few Avengers at this point)

Wanda didn't die, recovered,
and came back as an uber god, then re-created the Omniverse.

smile

Proven.

"A bullet to the head?"

Unfortunately no one was able to hurt Wanda during HOM,
so I can't show you anything else.

Then again,
how does one hurt a being that crumbles the entire Omniverse,
and then Remakes it with a phrase?

h1a8
Originally posted by Mr Master
In the Avengers Disassembled arc,

Dr Strange completely fried the brain of a weaker Wanda.
(she was only able to kill a few Avengers at this point)

Wanda didn't die, recovered,
and came back as an uber god, then re-created the Omniverse.

smile

Proven.

"A bullet to the head?"

Unfortunately no one was able to hurt Wanda during HOM,
so I can't show you anything else.

Then again,
how does one hurt a being that crumbles the entire Omniverse,
and then Remakes it with a phrase?

You must understand that she uses her brain to do this stuff. Without her brain then she is useless. This is common sense. I will read that arc though. But it seems Strange wouldn't use fatal force on her. So that arc probably doesn't prove anything really.
My argument is that if Strange can stop time before her then he can kill her entire brain function instantly at his leisure.

Mr Master
Originally posted by h1a8
You must understand that she uses her brain to do this stuff.
Without her brain then she is useless.
This is common sense.

Ok.

But like I said,
Strange on panel fried the brain (as to kill) of a weaker Wanda,
the same brain she uses to do stuff,
Wanda recovered,
Wanda returned,
Wanda re-created the Omniverse.

Originally posted by h1a8
I will read that arc though.
But it seems Strange wouldn't use fatal force on her.
So that arc probably doesn't prove anything really.

Actually she was killing Avengers, and Strange tried to kill her.

So it does count.

Originally posted by h1a8
My argument is that if Strange can stop time before her then he can kill her entire brain function instantly at his leisure.

How can Strange ever be able to control Time above Wanda?

When Wanda actually re-created the concept of Time itself, along with all the other Concepts.

You must understand (Wanda tore to pieces the entire Omniverse, then Remade it)

The Omniverse like all universes consists of Concepts like Time, Space, etc.

h1a8
Originally posted by Mr Master
Ok.

But like I said,
Strange on panel fried the brain (as to kill) of a weaker Wanda,
the same brain she uses to do stuff,
Wanda recovered,
Wanda returned,
Wanda re-created the Omniverse.



Actually she was killing Avengers, and Strange tried to kill her.

So it does count.



How can Strange ever be able to control Time above Wanda?

When Wanda actually re-created the concept of Time itself, along with all the other Concepts.

You must understand (Wanda tore to pieces the entire Omniverse, then Remade it)

The Omniverse like all universes consists of Concepts like Time, Space, etc.

I seriously doubt Strange was trying to kill her. Because he could have done so easily if he wanted to. Heck a bullet to the brain will even do the job. And it is moot for one to control time above someone else when all what matters is that who controls time first. And since Wanda operates in time then she isn't immune to the stopping of time by another. And a brain fry isn't the same as the instant stopping of one's entire brain function (something a mere bullet can do). For one can still have some conscienceness while their brain is frying and in which they can still preserve their integrity. Thus anything short of instant stoppage of entire brain function will result in the healing of Wanda.

Crimson Phoenix
Originally posted by h1a8
I seriously doubt Strange was trying to kill her. Because he could have done so easily if he wanted to. Heck a bullet to the brain will even do the job. And it is moot for one to control time above someone else when all what matters is that who controls time first. And since Wanda operates in time then she isn't immune to the stopping of time by another. And a brain fry isn't the same as the instant stopping of one's entire brain function (something a mere bullet can do). For one can still have some conscienceness while their brain is frying and in which they can still preserve their integrity. Thus anything short of instant stoppage of entire brain function will result in the healing of Wanda.

What the hell are you on about? A frying brain would still have some conscienceness? When was the last time you fried a brain to figure that out? And a bullet to the brain is an instant kill, just like an arrow to the heart is an instant kill.

h1a8
Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
What the hell are you on about? A frying brain would still have some conscienceness? When was the last time you fried a brain to figure that out? And a bullet to the brain is an instant kill, just like an arrow to the heart is an instant kill.

Yes a frying brain would still have some conscienceness. She can use that conscienceness to keep the integrity of her brain going. This is common sense. A bullet to the brain is not only instant death but instant stoppage of the entire brain function. An arrow to the heart isn't even instant death (it takes at least a few moments to die) let alone instant stoppage of the entire brain function.

Mr Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes a frying brain would still have some conscienceness. She can use that conscienceness to keep the integrity of her brain going. This is common sense.

I'm not sure about that.

I rather take a chance with a bullet to my head,
than having my brain completely fried.

Originally posted by h1a8
A bullet to the brain is not only instant death but instant stoppage of the entire brain function.

I disagree.

I actually knew a cat (a teen) that played basketball at my school
with a bullet lodged in his brain.

I've also seen plenty of cases on TLC (the learning channel)
of individuals that have not only survived, but live normal lives,
after being shot in the head.

Originally posted by h1a8
An arrow to the heart isn't even instant death (it takes at least a few moments to die) let alone instant stoppage of the entire brain function.

It's plausible.

But considering it was Haweye that shot that arrow,
I have to believe anyone that's mortal, shouldn't survive.

He himself said, "If I couldn't kill you"

So he came to "kill" and I'm sure he being Hawkeye,
was more than capable to do it with one of his arrows.
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By the way, I just reviewd Avengers Disassembled.

Wanda & Dr Strange battled for a little bit,
what was interesting is,
Strange (from the Astral Plane)
sneak attacked Wanda (that is, he had an open shot and took it,
and Wanda was not phased)

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Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm not sure about that.

I rather take a chance with a bullet to my head,
than having my brain completely fried.



I disagree.

I actually knew a cat (a teen) that played basketball at my school
with a bullet lodged in his brain.

I've also seen plenty of cases on TLC (the learning channel)
of individuals that have not only survived, but live normal lives,
after being shot in the head.



It's plausible.

But considering it was Haweye that shot that arrow,
I have to believe anyone that's mortal, shouldn't survive.

He himself said, "If I couldn't kill you"

So he came to "kill" and I'm sure he being Hawkeye,
was more than capable to do it with one of his arrows.
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By the way, I just reviewd Avengers Disassembled.

Wanda & Dr Strange battled for a little bit,
what was interesting is,
Strange (from the Astral Plane)
sneak attacked Wanda (that is, he had an open shot and took it,
and Wanda was not phased)

Yes, there have been ones who survived a bullet to the brain. But that is moot for I am talking about the possible stopping of the entire brain function instantly by a competent bullet to the brain. When one's brain is frying then immediately they are suffering. And to suffer is to have conscience thought. And to have conscience thought (for Wanda) is to be able to keep one's integrity (conscienceness alive) in order to heal.

Yes, a arrow to the heart or any vital organ (especially by hawkeye) will produce fast death (but not instant). And it will not certainly produce the instant stoppage of the brain function.

And to choose a bullet to the brain over your brain frying is folly. This is because you have the best chance to heal yourself when your brain is frying (since in the beginning you would still have conscience thought) than if your entire brain function was suddenly stopped by a bullet on impact. You might feel more pain with the former though but at least you would be still alive.

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