Battlezone Match: Akuki vs. Phenomenol match thread

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Akuki
The match starts now and will last until Thursday at midnight pacific coast time.
Phenomenol is able to use goku at the end of DBZ and if he can prove that the anime is canon then he is able to use the anime as well for feats.

I will be repping D.S. with the judas pain.


The current judges are: Trickster Priest, SnazzySmurph, and Soljer


May the best man win.

No one except the combatants and judges should participate in the thread.

Akuki

Akuki
Ok a bit more:
Dark Schndeider possesses both insane regeneration abilities, but he also can't be destroyed unless his eternal atoms are destroyed. Even before the Judas pain he was able to keep functioning as just a talking head and regenerate from that.
Here's an example of his regeneration against Uriel where he easily reforms his head.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/bastard22_34.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/bastard22_35.jpg

Dark Schneider also has the ability to summon and use a larger more powerful construct called the Dragon Knight. When the beams of this construct and fallen Uriel's Augeiodes form collided they resulted in the shattering of the lesser dimension that they were in, while they remained unharmed.
Just to give a sense of size, he's a speck in that thing's eye. Blast exchange with an opponent
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d522-523.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d524.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d525.jpg
Same blasting shattering the dimension they are in
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d530.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d531.jpg
Dark Schnieder and Opponent emerging nearly unscathed in other reality
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d548.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d549.jpg

Here's more of that same fight:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/078.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/079.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/080.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/081.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/082.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/083.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/084.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/085.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/086.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/087.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/088.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/089.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/090.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/091.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/092.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/093-1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/094.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/095.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/096.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/097.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/098.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/099.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/100.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/101.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/102.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/103.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/104.jpg


also here's the pic of the original version of that earlier scan:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/bastard22_41.jpg

Gecko4lif
I cant tell what the **** is happening

Hyperion 07
A thread like this was just made NO ANIME IS ALLOWED!!

Alfheim
Originally posted by Akuki
The match starts now and will last until Thursday at midnight pacific coast time.
Phenomenol is able to use goku at the end of DBZ and if he can prove that the anime is canon then he is able to use the anime as well for feats.

I will be repping D.S. with the judas pain.


The current judges are: Trickster Priest, SnazzySmurph, and Soljer


May the best man win.

No one except the combatants and judges should participate in the thread.

you wanna put Soljer as judge...are you mad? Well anyway this looks like pure anime so its in the wrong section.

Akuki
Originally posted by Alfheim
you wanna put Soljer as judge...are you mad? Well anyway this looks like pure anime so its in the wrong section.

No posting in an ongoing match. Also Anime is allowed to be used in the battlezone matches.

Hyperion 07
Anime = thumb down

Keep it in your section Akuki.

Hyperion 07
I looked at the rules and I don't see it saying anime is allowed.

Akuki
Originally posted by Hyperion 07
I looked at the rules and I don't see it saying anime is allowed.
Please stop spamming a match thread. Also the manga is allowed rule was established awhile back when Grey Fox asked Darthgoober if he could use Alucard in the battlezone and got permission to do so.

Hyperion 07
Its not spamming when I want to know if its allowed.

Proof.

Akuki
Ok the other thread got banned, so go to this link to follow the earlier arguments:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f74/t467260.html

Akuki
Ok to sum up the points that Phenomenol has made so far:
1) He continues to cling to the belief that one mistranslated scan shows that D.S. is sound speed. This is despite the fact that
A) I have pointed out that the scan is mistranslated, and provided the original for our japanese speaker TP to examine.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/bastard22_41.jpg
B) I have provided a scan from the databook which clearly states that the seraphim class of angels can go faster than light and can destroy planets. (Focus on the underlined section. If you choose not to believe me, it should be easy enough to input that into babelfish)
http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seraphsjk0.jpg
C) As I already stated multiple times, there is consistent evidence of galaxy busting power levels in Bastard!! If you don't trust my translations here's link to where I received the translations from Aldric, a member of one of the main translating groups for Bastard!!
http://forums.narutofan.com:80/showthread.php?t=282796
In these scans the archangel michael states that Fallen Uriel could "crush the galaxy" and that his attack power exceeds that of all the other Seraphim, (keep in mind Michael has an attack with the power of a Supernova)
D) First of all I have watched episode 219 on my computer and what he posted isn't even episode 219. In addition to this even if you can consider the anime canon at some points whenever it comes into conflict with the manga, the manga should be taken more seriously as the manga is the source material. In the manga is states that, "in only a few YEARS he destroyed hundreds of PLANETS"
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1834/suckitphenomenoliu1.gif
E) He continues to insist that to apply a ridiculous double standard to his power feats. He insists that the following scan in which D.S. and fallen Uriel shatter the dimensional walls seperating Hell from earth with the power of their blasts and following fight only demonstrate town busting power levels since the town in the background survives, yet continues to claim that Buu is a galaxy buster even though in his fight with Goku no major damage was inflicted on the planet.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d522-523.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d524.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d525.jpg
Same blasting shattering the dimension they are in
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d530.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d531.jpg
Dark Schnieder and Opponent emerging nearly unscathed in other reality
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d548.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d549.jpg

Here's more of that same fight:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/078.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/079.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/080.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/081.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/082.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/083.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/084.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/085.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/086.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/087.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/088.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/089.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/090.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/091.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/092.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/093-1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/094.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/095.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/096.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/097.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/098.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/099.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/100.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/101.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/102.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/103.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/104.jpg

F) He continues to ignore evidence of Dark Schneider's extremely powerful regen against Planet busting opponents, and has repeatedly claimed that a single planet busting attack would be enough to destroy D.S.
Here's an example of his regeneration against Uriel where he easily reforms his head.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/bastard22_34.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/bastard22_35.jpg

Switch 07
Sorry for spam but how about changing the size of those images. To big.

Akuki
Ok here's my original post


Now Here's what Phenom is claiming about this scan


Ok first of all how does it not show the destruction of a planet? First of all just look at what he posted it specifically talks about Satan, "ravage all of existence" In fact if you look at the size of Satan in the scan, Satan is able to cover ALMOST ALL OF THE GALAXY. Also if you look at the scan he questioned simply look at the center of the picture a bit towards the bottom, you can clearly see a planet being shattered as he's moving.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/BASTARD19_059.jpg
BTW Phenom, what are you using to get the translations you are posting?

Akuki
If you watch the episode in English not only does your interpretation go directly against the manga, but if you look at the point directly before your quotes it shows planets being blown up individually and the dialogue heavily indicates that this destruction is taking place over an extended period of time.

Akuki
If you watch the episode in English not only does your interpretation go directly against the manga, but if you look at the point directly before your quotes it shows planets being blown up individually and the dialogue heavily indicates that this destruction is taking place over an extended period of time.

Here's the scans:
Individual planets blowing up:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/Screenshot_7.png
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/Screenshot_8.png
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/Screenshot_9.png
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/Screenshot_10.png
Gradual decay of the galaxy:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/Screenshot_12.png
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/Screenshot_13.png
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/Screenshot_14.png
In summation Buu is not a Galaxy buster, he's simply a planet buster with a heck of a lot of time on his hands.
And in addition to this Goku the only way Goku ever had a chance was because he used the spirit ball attack which requires enormous amounts of time to use. Do you really believe that someone who can go lightspeed and attack thousands of times in a couple of seconds is really going to give him the around 20 or so minutes that he took to make that ball?
Phenomenol has also failed to explain how Goku is going to make it through D.S.'s shields. As you saw before dispel bound was able to take thousands of attacks from a planet busting level opponent when in simple Majin form. As you saw from the earlier scans, not only can does he have thousands of these shields protecting from all possible types of attack, but he is constantly REWRITING AND REINFORCING them during battle. With Goku's low attack speed, he won't be able to break through the shields fast enough.

In addition to this even if he does manage to break through(which he can't) he still has to destroy D.S. For Goku this would be impossible because if you examine the scan it specifically says that they are targeting "infinity atoms that make up the core of both their existences." What are these infinity atoms and why are they important? As the scan says, they are the core of each of their existences, and so long as they are intact they can regenerate themselves easily(for example when D.S. regenerated his head). The reason these things would be impossible for Goku to destroy is that they exist on 3 seperate planes of existence: the physical plane, the astral plane, and the plane of the soul.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7870/0001englf2.th.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3911/0002hz9.th.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4765/0003qt3.th.jpg

TricksterPriest
The scan was grossly mistranslated. DS is going far above supersonic speed. I'm having trouble making out the kanji because there's some blurring going on at the part I need to translate. But it is at least lightspeed.

Akuki
Ok here's proof of why Goku has no chance of putting down Darshu.
In regards to the infinity atoms it says:
page 9 of Bastard!! vol 20:

"In a fight between human beings, to kill one's opponent means destroying his physical body. However, for creatures like angels and demons with powerful regenerative powers (atomic reconstitution, spatio-temporal regeneration), killing the enemy isn't simply a matter of physically destroying the material body. The complete annihilation of its true form, astral body (spirit) and ethereal body (soul) is needed."

page 10:

"It's composed of the core of the body, spirit and soul. This eternal atom is the core of every existence, their nucleus"
Scans
Pg 9
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/Bastard20_008.jpg
Pg 10
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/Bastard20_009.jpg

As you can see in order to destroy Dark Schneider Goku needs to have the ability to destroy him on the different planes of existence, the physical, the astral, and the soul. We have clear proof from the DBZ manga and anime that no Ki attacks destroy the soul as we often see Goku's soul moving around in the spirit realm after he is killed by ki attacks and this is an integral portion of both anime and manga storylines.

Therefore in conclusion Dark Schneider wins an easy victory for these reasons:
1) He moves at faster than light speeds, while Phenomenol has failed to provide any evidence that Goku is anywhere near that.
2) He can take attacks from planent busting opponents easily and even if Goku can get though 10 maybe even twenty of his outside shields D.S. has thousands of them and is constantly regenerating them.
3) D.S. has attacks that match the power of someone who was confirmed as galaxy buster level by multiple reliable sources.
4) In order to permanently take out D.S. and overcome his regeneration he needs to be attacked on three seperate plains of existence, two of which it is highly doubtful that Goku could do anything to. In short D.S.'s possesses the most powerful regeneration ability I've ever heard of.

Akuki
BTW Phenom if you want to cut the match a little shorter it's fine with me, I don't think we're going to need till Friday to finish this.

Violent2Dope
Sorry to spam but...Phenom hasn't posted once.

Akuki
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Sorry to spam but...Phenom hasn't posted once.
he has, it was just in the other thread which I posted a link to. This battle is kinda messed up because of all the times the thread has been locked and unlocked.

Soljer
He posted a time or two in the other thread...but...

Uhhh...

What happened to his insane desire to stomp Akuki?!

It ends tomorrow at midnight. Here's to hoping he gets his shit together?

Phenomenol

Phenomenol
LOL! Goku's ATTACK speed is SLOW??? WTF are you chatting..........Here is DS Oh so great "ZOMG Dispell bound" getting broken and ripped apart at the SPEED OF SOUND by Ultra powered punches, LMAO laughing
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0003qt3.jpg

Goku in his BASE FORM IS so fast he was INTANGIBLE (You have to be going lightspeed to do that in the atmosphere) This is Goku's weakest State in the Freeza Saga!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jrlR9qeG0NQ

Man, DS would get VAPORIZED by Piccolo let alone Goku! Ki IS SPIRITUAL power!! As seen in Dragonball they can kill/Damage Soul/Spirits! Majin vegeta was able to DAMAGE Goku's Soul! Kid Buu was able to teleport to Heaven and kill some Soul/Spirits!!! Kid Buu Vs vegeta and Goku who were fighting Kid Buu as souls/spirits and Kid Buu could have killed them! WTF are you chatting Goku can't attack him on a spiritual LEVEL! KI IS SPIRIT.

Notice the DEAD GOKU's Soul fighting Vegeta PS...Goku has a HLO above his head!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=99nPi2bT2zc

Phenomenol
Characters WAY WEAKER than Goku has more power than Dark Scheeter!
Freeza Blowing up Planet Vegeta with his FINGER!!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Finger%20blast%20Planet.gif
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fPELlQskcVM&mode=related&search=

Freeza opening a rift through the planet with his FINGER!!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/planetslice1.gif http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Planetslice2.gif http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Planetslice3.gif http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Planetslice4.gif

Buu Blasting a hole through an ENTIRE DIMENSION with his own POWAAA!!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Buubreath0.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/BuuBreath1.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Buubreath.gif

Cell IS a Solar System destroyer!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Cell%20powa.gif

Piccolo Vaporizing the moon casually
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/DBZ_Piccolo.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/DBZ_Piccolo2.gif

Phenomenol
Buu Casually vaporizing earth!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Earth1.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Earth3.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Earth4.gif

Majin DS has no Durability!!, FAllen Uriel beat Majin Ds up with his wings like powers ripping off Majin DS wings, and then Shot a blast that was Village BUSTING LEVEL, LOL!!! For the simple fact that DS GOT INJURED and hurt by the attack shows that he can't take no more than that!
This explosion from Piccol is far more powerful then anything DS has shown(the entire city was either blown away or vaporised) - This was way back in Dragon ball. (no z)
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5679/161007fm1.gifhttp://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9481/161008ox1.gif
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7843/161009ej9.gifhttp://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1605/161010of7.gif
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2452/161011tf8.gifhttp://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8021/161012jk8.gif

One Planet destroying blast from Goku who is WAY MORE powerful than ALL of these characters will finish DS!!!

DS has never took a Planet busting attack! an attack WAY! less then a Planet busting eneded his Majin form!

you guys do the math!

Phenomenol
& about the Dragon Knight.............. it will get a Planet busting attack up its rectum also.

I thought this was going to last until sunday! I told you guys im busy during the week.

Akuki
Originally posted by Phenomenol
& about the Dragon Knight.............. it will get a Planet busting attack up its rectum also.

I thought this was going to last until sunday! I told you guys im busy during the week.
I specifically said on the opening post that this would last till thursday and asked you if you had any objections. If you want to extend it I can though.

Akuki

Phenomenol
Yeah, you GAVE ME A DATA BOOK LINK OF A SERAPHIM CAN TRAVEL AT LIGHTSPEED NOT DS!!! YOU PROVIDED TWO LINKS WITH DS SPEED STATING TO BE SOUND SPEED!! Understand the difference?? And I gave you the LITERAL JAPANESE TRANSLATIONS!!! JUST LIKE I DID WITH YOUR LAST TRANSLATIONS WHEN YOU LIED ABOUT Fallen URIEL BEING A GALAXY BUSTER!!!! DON'T CHANGE UP NOW......

"Moving in the speed of supersonic
Attacking several thousand times in secondS"
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/bastard22_41.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0003qt3.jpg

The Scans ARE NOT MISTRANSLATED they are accurate!!!!



AGAIN I ASK YOU, POST SCANS WHERE DS HAS TAKEN A PLANET BUSTING ATTACK??? DS CAN'T EVEN BLOW UP A PLANET!! IF DS CAN TAKE PLANET BUSTING WHY HAVENT YOU POSTED HIM SHRUGGING OFF AN ATTACK ANYWERE NEAR THAT LEVEL? WHY DID DS GET TAG BLASTED OUT OF HIS MAJIN DS FORM BY A CITY LEVEL BUSTING ATTACK FROM FALLEN URIEL??

LOL, MY GALAXY BUSTING ARGUMENT IS BASED ON A SCENE FROM THE CANON ANIME SHOWING A GALAXY BEING DESTROYED! NOT THAT OTHER CRAP YOU ARE DRONING ON ABOUT. UNLIKE YOUR CLAIM A GALAXY BEING DESTROYED IS ON PANEL!



NO, THE JAPANESE ORIGINAL PROVIDED NOTHING WHAT YOU STATED, YOU CLAIMED THAT THE ANGEL SAID URIEL CAN BLOW A GALAXY UP, MINE SAID It's as if... / to overwhelm this galaxy... WHERE DOES IT SAY OR SHOW THAT FALLEN URIEL CAN SMASH THE GALAXY THEY WERE IN? BUU'S GALAXY BUSTING IS ON PANEL! IT NEVER SHOWED OE STATED THAT FALLEN URIELCOULD DESTROY THE GALAXY THEY WERE IN NOW DID IT?? PLEASE DON'T REACH.

IT IS SHOWN ON PANEL THAT MAJIN BUU SMASHED A GALAXY!! DEAL WITH IT.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/buudestroyri0.png

3. YES DBZ CHARACTERS CAN KILL SOULS HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPLAIN MAJIN VEGETA FIGHTING SUPER SAIYA-JIN 2 GOKU'S SOUL??? DO YOU SEE THE HALO AROUND HIS HEAD? roll eyes (sarcastic)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jrlR9qeG0NQhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=99nPi2bT2zc



WHAT THE HELL DID I CLAIM? HERE IS THE LINK AGAIN OF GOKU GOING INTANGIBLE (SECOND SCENE)!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jrlR9qeG0NQ

YEAH GO BACK TO THE NARUTO FORUM AND TRY TO ASK ENDLESS MIKE AND THE GANG. FOR HELP BECAUSE HE IS ONLY HURTING YOU.

Akuki
Do you really want to continue with this fight till sunday, because it's getting pretty obvious we're just going around in circles here.


Just to note, you've still not provided any proof that your translations are at all accurate.

Phenomenol
Originally posted by Akuki
Do you really want to continue with this fight till sunday, because it's getting pretty obvious we're just going around in circles here.

NO, YOUR GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES, NOT POSTING WHAT I ASK AND ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS GET PREP-TIME SO YOU CAN ASK ALDRIC AND FRIENDS TO HELP AND GIVE YOU SOME MORE INFO.


http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=282796 roll eyes (sarcastic)

AGAIN POST THE SCANS OF WHAT I ASK BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUS YOU ARE STALLING! DS CAN NOT HANDLE GOKU, PERIOD.

MY TRANSLATIONS ARE ACCURATE BECAUSE YOU PROVIDED A SCAN THAT BACKED UP MY TRANSLATIONS, DS IS SOUND SPEED EXCEPT IT AND MOVE ON!

Akuki
Originally posted by Phenomenol
NO, YOUR GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES, NOT POSTING WHAT I ASK AND ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS GET PREP-TIME SO YOU CAN ASK ALDRIC AND FRIENDS TO HELP AND GIVE YOU SOME MORE INFO.


http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=282796 roll eyes (sarcastic)

AGAIN POST THE SCANS OF WHAT I ASK BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUS YOU ARE STALLING! DS CAN NOT HANDLE GOKU, PERIOD.

MY TRANSLATIONS ARE ACCURATE BECAUSE YOU PROVIDED A SCAN THAT BACKED UP MY TRANSLATIONS, DS IS SOUND SPEED EXCEPT IT AND MOVE ON!

Umm.. How can I be stalling if I'm suggesting we end the fight now? Isn't what I'm doing the exact opposite of that? I've posted all the scans that I believe prove to any reasonable person that Goku would lose. My question was whether or not you want to keep going in this fight or if you just want to let the judges decide now.

Phenomenol
Originally posted by Akuki
Umm.. How can I be stalling if I'm suggesting we end the fight now? Isn't what I'm doing the exact opposite of that? I've posted all the scans that I believe prove to any reasonable person that Goku would lose. My question was whether or not you want to keep going in this fight or if you just want to let the judges decide now.

NO YOU ARE STALLING BECAUSE YOU HAVE YET TO POST WHAT I ASKED FOR. YET YOU KEEP POSTING. roll eyes (sarcastic)

SpookySmurph
Judge vote on the matter: end the fight now.

Akuki
Originally posted by Phenomenol
NO YOU ARE STALLING BECAUSE YOU HAVE YET TO POST WHAT I ASKED FOR. YET YOU KEEP POSTING. roll eyes (sarcastic)
Phenom, do you want to keep going or not? If I have failed to provide evidence then the judges can take that into account, however I feel I have provided all that is necessary.


Stalling by definition means to extend the time in order to gain an advantage, I'm offering you the chance to shorten the time, yet you continue to claim I'm stalling. Please just give me an answer to my question. Do you wish to continue or not?

TricksterPriest
Originally posted by SpookySmurph
Judge vote on the matter: end the fight now.

Co-signed. Enough already.

Make your closing arguements.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Akuki
Please stop spamming a match thread. Also the manga is allowed rule was established awhile back when Grey Fox asked Darthgoober if he could use Alucard in the battlezone and got permission to do so.
Originally posted by Hyperion 07
Its not spamming when I want to know if its allowed.

Proof.
Just to clarify, yes I said that anime is allowed. But here's the deal, the mods are under no obligation to allow anime threads just because they're Battle Zone matches and they outrank me. So there's a chance that this one may get closed just like the other one did. I'll probably end up PMing Tron and seeing if allowances will be made in regards to Battle Zone matches...

Akuki
Ok to summarize my points:
1) Phenomenol has made the continual fallacy to claim that since in one small piece of the anime they show Buu gradually destroying a galaxy he is a galaxy level thread. This is completely different from the power level showed in the manga which states that he took several years to destroys hundreds of planets. In addition to this Buu was stronger than Goku, so it can't really be said that Goku was capable of this feat since Goku was only able to take out Buu because he was given a ridiculous amount of time to charge up his energy for the spirit ball, which he would obviously not have in this battle.
2) Phenomenol has continually ignored the fact that D.S. is clearly faster than light based upon the the scan from the databook and the original japanese scan that I provided.
3) The highest tier characters in Bastard!! which D.S. falls into have consistently shown Galaxy threat levels of power. We have the archangel Michael who states that Fallen Uriel could "crush/overwhelm the galaxy", we have the Judas pain which is said to have the power to destroy the galaxy, and we have Satan whose physical form itself is large enough cover most of the galaxy.
4) Phenomenol has demonstrated no clear reason why Goku would be able to break through D.S.'s shields which withstood continuous attacks by planet busting and galaxy threat opponents, and which are also being regenerated at insanely fast speeds.
5) IF Goku should for some crazy reason get through D.S's shields he still has to deal with his crazy endurance and regeneration. D.S. is built around a core of eternal atoms and so long as these are not destroyed he will keep functioning. If Goku proved unable to deal with the regen of someone like Buu without the Spirit bomb what's he going to do against D.S.? Also in order to kill D.S. permanently Goku must be able to destroy the soul of his opponent which is clearly not possible for him since we often see the souls of his dead opponents in hell chatting.


As a result of this the result of a battle is quite clear. D.S's shields have taken far worse than anything Goku can dish out, and his regeneration far exceeds anything seen in DBZ, while his blasts are far more powerful than anything Goku would be able to take with feats such as shattering the walls of hell.
Therefore D.S. wins because he has the firepower and the speed to put Goku down, while Goku has no real way to take down D.S.

I think I'm done now.

SpookySmurph
Originally posted by darthgoober
Just to clarify, yes I said that anime is allowed. But here's the deal, the mods are under no obligation to allow anime threads just because they're Battle Zone matches and they outrank me. So there's a chance that this one may get closed just like the other one did. I'll probably end up PMing Tron and seeing if allowances will be made in regards to Battle Zone matches... It was closed. Then a new one was created in the Manga forum, that was closed, and Akuki convinced Tron to reopen this.

All the links to the posts are here though.

Phenomenol
NOPE, GOKU AT THE END OF DBZ IS MORE POWQERFUL THAN EVERYONE IN DRAGONBALL Z GOKU WNET TOE-TO-TOE WITH BUU A GALAXY DESTROYER. SMALL PIECE OR NOT THE CANON ANIME SHOWS A GALAXY BEING VAPORIZED AND THAT CAN NOT BE DENIED, YOU BEING A WHINEY DS FANBOY ISN'T GONNA CHANGE THAT FACT.



LOL NOTHING FROM THE DATA BOOK STATES DS IS LIGHTSPEED IT SAID THAT THE SERAPHIM CAN TRAVEL LIGHTSPEED HERE.....http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seraphsjk0.jpg

WHILE dS SPEED IS STATED TO BE SOUND SPEED.......
"Moving in the speed of supersonic
Attacking several thousand times in secondS"
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/bastard22_41.jpg
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0003qt3.jpg

AGAIN,YOU HAVE YET TO PROVE THAT THESE ARE A MISTRANSLATION! roll eyes (sarcastic) STOP DENYING FACTS!



NOWHERE DOES IT STATE THAT FALLEN URIELD COULD CRUSH A GALAXY, YOU HAVE YET TO SHOW ME THIS? DARK SCHNEIDER DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE PIECES OF THE JUDAS PAIN SO THAT POINT IS MOOT. THE POINT IS YOU HAVE YET TO POST THAT DS HAS ANY POWER TO COMPETE WITH GOKU? I CONTINUALLY ASKED FOR FEATS OF HIS POWER AND YOU CAME UP WITH NONE.



DARK SCHNEIDER'S DISPELL BOUND WAS BEING BROKEN BY ULTRA POWERED PUNCHES NOWHERE NEAR THE PLANET BUSTING ATTACK THAT I CONTINUALLY ASKED FOR YOU TO POST. STOP MAKING UP CLAIMS WHEN IT DOESN'T EVEN STATE ANY OF THAT IN THE SCANS YOU POSTED.



SHOW ME WHERE DS REGENERATES FROM A BLAST THAT COULD VAPORIZE EARTH? YOU HAVE YET TO SHOW THIS THROUGH THE ENTIRE THREAD I CONTINUALLY ASKED YOU TO SHOW ME WHERE? DS COULDN'T EVEN REGENERATE FROM GETTING HIS WINGS RIPPED OFF BY FALLEN URIELS ENERGY WHIPS AND GOT BLASTED BY AN ATTACK THAT WAS LESS THAN A PLANET BUSTING ATTACK THAT KNOCKED HIM OUT OF HIS MAJIN DS FORM!

KI IS SPIRIT I SHOWED YOU AN EPISODE WHERE MAJIN VEGETA IS FIGHTING GOKU'S SPIRIT/SOUL! HOW CAN YOU CONSISTENTLY SAY THAT DBZ CAN NOT DAMAGE THE SOUL/SPIRIT WHEN YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE VEGETA FIGHTING GOKU'S SOUL/SPIRIT?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N2ITE8tKK2k&mode=related&search= roll eyes (sarcastic)



BUU AND CELLS REGENERATION >>>>>>>>DARK sCHNEIDER'S. AGAIN YOU WILL FIND ALL THE SCANS THAT I CONTINUALLY ASKED YOU FOR CONCERNING THIS MATTER IN THIS THREAD AND YOU DID NOT ANSWER ANY OF THEM!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??

Phenomenol
Originally posted by Akuki
Phenom, do you want to keep going or not? If I have failed to provide evidence then the judges can take that into account, however I feel I have provided all that is necessary.

Stalling by definition means to extend the time in order to gain an advantage, I'm offering you the chance to shorten the time, yet you continue to claim I'm stalling. Please just give me an answer to my question. Do you wish to continue or not?

WHATEVER DUDE, LET ME MAKE SURE TO LET YALL KNOW THAT THE ANIME IS CANON STATED BY TORIYAMA HIMSELF AGAIN!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/dayspring/AnimeMe4.jpg
12: From time to time, il would happen that people whom I didn't even know were approaching me about the anime. Things were often said like: "Oh jeeze, between the manga and the anime, you must never take any time to let yourself breathe!". In reality, I had hardly worked at all on the anime, I had put confidence in my collaborators. I had enough to do just with the manga. I didn't want to work myself to death, you know...

Toriyama: I want to live until I'm 100 years old!

13: For example, drawing an image of a movement in a manga is relatively simple, but to animate this image, you had to decompose the movement and draw all the intermediary movements. That demands a colossal amount of work. (Ok, the example of Kame-sennin might not be the most appropriate...)

14: Of course, those who have read Dragon Ball have noticed that certain stories which are found in the anime didn't existe in the manga.

Oolong: What's this? I never saw that in the manga....

END: As one adventure in the manga corresponds to about 10 minutes of animation, and since one episode comprises on average 30 minutes, the entire series of Dragon Ball would have passed by very quickly. The team of animators therefore had to insert some original stories. I admire what they have done, that's a hell of a job!

Toriyama: Dragon Ball, it's the anime and the manga


........... MORE POWER SHOWING GOKU IS OVER DS....

GOKU USING INSTANTANEOUS MOVEMENT + KAMEHAMEHA =DEAD DS!!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/gOKUCELLSPEED.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/GOKUCELLSPEED2.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/gOKUCELLSPEED3.gif

GOKU EASILY SLAPPING AWAY A BLAST THAT EASILY DESTROYED 1/10 OF EARTH! IT IS STATED HERE FOR CONFIRMATION.http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/manga/40.html#475
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/400304.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/400305.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/400306.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/400307.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/400308.gif

MY SCANS AND CLIPS SPEAK FOR MYSELF THROUGHOUT THIS THREAD! I BACKED UP MY CLAIMS WHNE AKUKI HAS NOT, I CONTINULLLY ASKED HIM FOR PROOF OF HIS CLAIMS AND HE HAS FAILED TO RESPOND. IT IS OBVIOUS GOKU IS THE SUPERIOR ONE HERE.......

Phenomenol
LOL can I add more rape? I think I will.......

At 6:07 watch as Vegeta (Someone Goku BEAT) blows away a planet with two fingers (Goodbye Bastardverse)!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8djP3tEd0pY&mode=related& amp;search=dbz%20dragonballz%20vegeta%20nappa%20tr
ust%20company%20saiyan%20saga%20planet%20arlia%20a
rlians%20figure%208

Goku at the end of DBZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saiya-jin saga Vegeta.thumb up thumb up

Akuki
Battle is over Judges can vote now.

Phenomenol
More proof that DBZ can KILL Souls/Spirits, kid buu is in heaven about to kill them(sorry for the crappy dub).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9o1TQUFAP4

Judges you can vote now!

Violent2Dope
Soooooooooo...who won?

TricksterPriest
With the match being over, I'll cast the first vote.

I'm extremely tempted to vote against Phenom solely on the basis of bringing in his sock to post for him and insulting me. miffed

But I won't. I'll vote on this match honestly.

This is a joke. This is a stupid and insulting joke. This is like putting.............. forget it. I can't even begin to describe the level of spite this match is.

I have the fortune to have to read the 'BASTARD!!' manga and the DBZ manga. And I asked Akuki if he would please not use the Judas Pain. I'm sorry Phenom, you never had a chance to begin with. There is no possible way you could win this fight.

The Judas Pain means that DS is pretty much unkillable. And ignoring that, Goku has no means of destroying his spirit or his essence. And without that, he's ****ed.

I just can't get around the spite involved in this match. no If it was a lesser version, like Majin, it would be a better fight, though still in favor of DS. But this? This is a joke. The Judas Pain puts DS over skyfather and in to low end abstract or perhaps entity level.

Sorry Phenom. But the match was rigged to begin with.

Judge Vote: Akuki.

Violent2Dope
DS is not a Skyfather unless he can manip matter, wanted to point that out.

Phenomenol
Sorry TP nothing against you but IT IS PLAIN OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE BIAS AND DISMISSED ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWING GOKU THE WINNER!! I knew this would happen......

Here I will prove it......



1. You already stated that you are bias against me and who is my sock? Noone came in here to post for me and noone INSULTED you.

You simply are not being Honest, you are being a Dark Schneider fanboy I will show you why....



LMAO! this post already shows your BIAS, no wonder why Akuki was quick to heavily request you! YOU GUYS FAIL.



This is fanboyish, you and Akuki NEVER addressed my points or questions. roll eyes (sarcastic) You never read Bastard because it is obviosu you wouldn't try and LIE about DS speed being above speed of sound when the scan and the ORIGINAL JAPANESE translation says that he is only sound speed ALOS FASTER THAN AN EXPLOSION NUCLEUS)! NOWHERE DOES IT SAY FASTER THAN LIGHT.



WRONG again, DS wit hthe Judas pain can be KNOCKED THE HELL OUT!! and what the hell do you mean that Goku can't kill his spirit??? I gave you clips of Majin Buu going to HEAVEN AND KILLING SPIRITS!...This was the proof!!....KI ATTACKS ON A PHISCAL LEVEL AS WELL AS SPIRITUAL!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9o1TQUFAP4

QUIT IGNORING MY FACTS.

LOL NOT TOO MENTION THE FACT THAT NONE OF YOU BIAS MEMBERS EXPALINED HOW DS WAS GOING TO EVEN SCRATCH GOKU??? roll eyes (sarcastic)



WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

YOU OR AKUKI HAS YET TO POST DS SHOWING ANY POWER TO BE SKY FATHER LEVEL? WHILE GOKU IS A SKYFATHER WHO CAN DESTROY SOLAR SYSTEMS AND MORE, GOKU HAS FACED BEINGS WHO CAN SHATTER GALAXIES AND SOLAR SYSTEMS BUT YOU WANNA IGNORE THE EVIDENCE BEACUSE OF YOUR BIAS?

MY SCANS AND CLIPS ARE ABOVE WHAT YOU AND AKUKI CLAIMED...YOU ARE A BIAS INDIVIDUAL AND PLEASE DON'T LIE ABOUT READING BASTARD ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU AGREED WITH AKUKI'S RESPECT THREAD WHICH IS INACCURATE!

MY SCANS AND CLIPS >>>>>>>>>>> YOUR OPINIONS AND DS WITH THE JUDAS PAIN!

YOU HAVE FAILED. POST WHERE AKUKI EVEN ADDRESED ANY OF MY POINTS? WHEN DID HE EVER MATCH SCANS WITH SCANS? HE NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS? THIS IS BIAS ASS CRAP....

THIS WAS A RAPESTOMP IN GOKU'S FAVOR, HE IS NOT EVEN PLANET BUSTING LEVEL AND YOU SAY DS IS SKY FATHER LEVEL? lol! roll eyes (sarcastic)

BIAS JUDGING!

Akuki
Just wanted to mention this, the main reason why I accepted TP was because he speaks japanese, not because of any bias I thought he would have on my behalf.

JasonK4
Originally posted by Akuki
Just wanted to mention this, the main reason why I accepted TP was because he speaks japanese, not because of any bias I thought he would have on my behalf.
Trickster speaks Japanese ??? shock

TricksterPriest
Originally posted by Phenomenol
Sorry TP nothing against you but IT IS PLAIN OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE BIAS AND DISMISSED ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWING GOKU THE WINNER!! I knew this would happen......

Here I will prove it......



1. You already stated that you are bias against me and who is my sock? Noone came in here to post for me and noone INSULTED you.

You simply are not being Honest, you are being a Dark Schneider fanboy I will show you why....



LMAO! this post already shows your BIAS, no wonder why Akuki was quick to heavily request you! YOU GUYS FAIL.



This is fanboyish, you and Akuki NEVER addressed my points or questions. roll eyes (sarcastic) You never read Bastard because it is obviosu you wouldn't try and LIE about DS speed being above speed of sound when the scan and the ORIGINAL JAPANESE translation says that he is only sound speed ALOS FASTER THAN AN EXPLOSION NUCLEUS)! NOWHERE DOES IT SAY FASTER THAN LIGHT.



WRONG again, DS wit hthe Judas pain can be KNOCKED THE HELL OUT!! and what the hell do you mean that Goku can't kill his spirit??? I gave you clips of Majin Buu going to HEAVEN AND KILLING SPIRITS!...This was the proof!!....KI ATTACKS ON A PHISCAL LEVEL AS WELL AS SPIRITUAL!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9o1TQUFAP4

QUIT IGNORING MY FACTS.

LOL NOT TOO MENTION THE FACT THAT NONE OF YOU BIAS MEMBERS EXPALINED HOW DS WAS GOING TO EVEN SCRATCH GOKU??? roll eyes (sarcastic)



WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

YOU OR AKUKI HAS YET TO POST DS SHOWING ANY POWER TO BE SKY FATHER LEVEL? WHILE GOKU IS A SKYFATHER WHO CAN DESTROY SOLAR SYSTEMS AND MORE, GOKU HAS FACED BEINGS WHO CAN SHATTER GALAXIES AND SOLAR SYSTEMS BUT YOU WANNA IGNORE THE EVIDENCE BEACUSE OF YOUR BIAS?

MY SCANS AND CLIPS ARE ABOVE WHAT YOU AND AKUKI CLAIMED...YOU ARE A BIAS INDIVIDUAL AND PLEASE DON'T LIE ABOUT READING BASTARD ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU AGREED WITH AKUKI'S RESPECT THREAD WHICH IS INACCURATE!

MY SCANS AND CLIPS >>>>>>>>>>> YOUR OPINIONS AND DS WITH THE JUDAS PAIN!

YOU HAVE FAILED. POST WHERE AKUKI EVEN ADDRESED ANY OF MY POINTS? WHEN DID HE EVER MATCH SCANS WITH SCANS? HE NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS? THIS IS BIAS ASS CRAP....

THIS WAS A RAPESTOMP IN GOKU'S FAVOR, HE IS NOT EVEN PLANET BUSTING LEVEL AND YOU SAY DS IS SKY FATHER LEVEL? lol! roll eyes (sarcastic)

BIAS JUDGING!

I'm not biased in the slightest. It's just unfortunate that you got a judge who actually has read "BASTARD!!". OMAE WA USOTSUKI YARO DA ZE! KISAMA NO KOE WA KUSO DA! Phenom wa KMC no ichiban baka da yo.

Whitebeard was your sock, everyone knows it. And you called me a liar, when I'm judging your match and trying to be reasonable in a match that is complete and utter spite. Just how stupid are you? What the f**k?

The match is over. You lost. Stop bitching and accept that you overrated Goku to a gargantuan degree.


And GTFO KMC. stfugtfo

Soljer
I really don't think I'm even going to vote.

It won't prove shit.

The 'loser' will just ***** and moan about biased judging. roll eyes (sarcastic).

Violent2Dope
Just do it Soljer. wink

Phenomenol
Originally posted by Akuki
Just wanted to mention this, the main reason why I accepted TP was because he speaks japanese, not because of any bias I thought he would have on my behalf.

WRONG!!! Trickster prest can read Japanese? Lets see what Trickster priest said..........



Here is what I said!.........



He can read Japanese you say! roll eyes (sarcastic)

You both fail. Trickster Priest was your WINNIG jusge all along you fanboy!



1. YOU DIDN'T READ BASTARD AT ALL BECAUSE YOU AGREED WITH aKUKI'S INNACURATE RESPECT THREAD AND LIED ABOUT HIS ABILITIES BEING SKYFATHER LEVEL WHEN HE HAS SHOWN NO MORE POWER ABOVE CITY BUSTING LEVEL! yOU FAIL.

2. WHITEBEARD HAS NOT POSTED IN THIS THREAD IN FACT HAS HE LOGGED IN TODAY? WTF ARE YOU CHATTING? PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE I "OVERRATED GOKU" ESPECIALLY WHEN I SHOWED THE PRROF OF FEATS FROM THE ANIME AND MANGA BACKING UP MY CLAIMS UNLIKE YOU JUST STATING WHAT DS IS WITH NO PROOF AT ALL!

JasonK4
Originally posted by Phenomenol
WRONG!!! Trickster prest can read Japanese? Lets see what Trickster priest said..........

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm not biased in the slightest. It's just unfortunate that you got a judge who actually has read "BASTARD!!". OMAE WA USOTSUKI YARO DA ZE! KISAMA NO KOE WA KUSO DA! Phenom wa KMC no ichiban baka da yo.

smile

and

stfugtfo

King Kandy
You have gone to far, you agreed to the match. When you agree to the match aND the Judges, you have no right to attack them for their discision.

Phenomenol
Originally posted by Soljer
I really don't think I'm even going to vote.

It won't prove shit.

The 'loser' will just ***** and moan about biased judging. roll eyes (sarcastic).

YOU TOO?

PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME GO GET LINKS WHERE YOU ALREADY ON AKUKI'S NUTS?

1. NONE OF YOU HAVE PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE THAT DS IS ABOVE GOKU OR EVEN CLOSE!!! YOU IGNORE FACTS.

2. MAJIN DS HAS BEEN DEFEATED BY A CITY BUSTING ATTACK AND YOU SAY HE BEATD GOKU? A GUY WHO CAN CASUALLY SMASH PLANETS? roll eyes (sarcastic)

I GUESS YOU FAIL AS WELL, I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE NONE OF YOU CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH!

MY SCANS/CLIPS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YOUR FANBOYISM AND BIAS FRO MAJIN DS AND aKUKI!

Phenomenol
Originally posted by King Kandy
You have gone to far, you agreed to the match. When you agree to the match aND the Judges, you have no right to attack them for their discision.

YES I CLEARLY AGREED TO NO BIAS JUSGES DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING?

CTY BUSTER >>>>>>>>>>>> A GUY WHO CAN BLOW PLANETS UP WITH EASE!

THE YHAVE NO REASONS TO WHY THEY PICK DS.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Phenomenol
YES I CLEARLY AGREED TO NO BIAS JUSGES DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING?

CTY BUSTER >>>>>>>>>>>> A GUY WHO CAN BLOW PLANETS UP WITH EASE!

THE YHAVE NO REASONS TO WHY THEY PICK DS.
Well you agreed to Tricksterpriest as a Judge, so you have no right to attack his dicision.

Phenomenol
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well you agreed to Tricksterpriest as a Judge, so you have no right to attack his dicision.

NO, I AGREED BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT BE BIAS HE EVEN STATED HIMSELF THAT IT WOULD BE HARD TO FIND JUDGES WHO DON'T HATE PHENOMENOL AND WOULD VOTE AGAINST HIM. YET HERE WE ARE!! roll eyes (sarcastic)

HE STATED CITY BUSTER >>>> A GUY WHO CAN SMASH PLANETS AND MORE WITH EASE! WITH NO EXPLANATION!

King Kandy
Well actualy the evidence seems overwhelming to me as well, and I've never even read Bastard!

Phenomenol
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well actualy the evidence seems overwhelming to me as well, and I've never even read Bastard!

JUST STOP!

WHAT EVIDENCE? READ THE ACTUAL ARGUMENT SON!

AKUKI HAS NO ARGUMENT! NEITHER DOES THESE JUSGES roll eyes (sarcastic)

Sarutobi700
Phenominal won this. Why are the judges biased

pr1983
Phenomenol, stop whining. You obviously agreed to having trick as a judge, and he voted against you. get over it.

TricksterPriest
Speaking of judges, aren't you one as well? confused

I know Phenom didn't want you apparently, but what would your vote have been?

Akuki
Originally posted by Phenomenol
JUST STOP!

WHAT EVIDENCE? READ THE ACTUAL ARGUMENT SON!

AKUKI HAS NO ARGUMENT! NEITHER DOES THESE JUSGES roll eyes (sarcastic)
Really? I thought I was actually typing words a providing scans and evidence. Or does that not count?

Phenomenol
Originally posted by pr1983
Phenomenol, stop whining. You obviously agreed to having trick as a judge, and he voted against you. get over it.

YOU MISSED THIS........




THE JUSDGES STATED A CITY BUSTER (lmao laughing ) >>>>>>>>> A GUY WHO CAN SMASH PLANETS WITH EASE AND WHO HAS INSTANTANEOUS MOVEMENT!

ALL OF YOU ARE BIAS AND HAVE FAILED THE EVIDENCE IS ON MY SIDE....

pr1983
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Speaking of judges, aren't you one as well? confused

I know Phenom didn't want you apparently, but what would your vote have been?

moi? apparently i mislaid some pm's and was away when the matches started... embarrasment

pr1983
Originally posted by Phenomenol
YOU MISSED THIS........




THE JUSDGES STATED A CITY BUSTER (lmao laughing ) >>>>>>>>> A GUY WHO CAN SMASH PLANETS WITH EASE AND WHO HAS INSTANTANEOUS MOVEMENT!

ALL OF YOU ARE BIAS AND HAVE FAILED THE EVIDENCE IS ON MY SIDE....

written by sarutobi, a person who's credibility on this forum is shot to hell... yes, one line from him is going to counteract all the scans and arguments that were posted by your opponent.

stop whining.

Violent2Dope
Sarutobi is a well known troll on the Superman forums.

Akuki
Originally posted by pr1983
moi? apparently i mislaid some pm's and was away when the matches started... embarrasment
I asked you and got an initial response from you, but i think you missed by other pm's. I didn't bother getting more p.m.'s to you because for some reason Phenom objected.

BTW Phenom, how the hell are you arriving at Fallen Uriel being a city buster?

TricksterPriest
Pr, you can still vote. The count is technically 1-0 in favor of Akuki. Soljer didn't want to vote, though I can guess where his vote was going. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Your vote might not count for much at this point, but I am curious as to what it would have been.

WHITEBEARD
WTF! I told you Phenom they would do this, hell they even flamed me, for no reason.LOL, a City buster beats a guy who can bust planets & has showed that he can!LOL, at the guy who said Majin DS is Skyfather with no Canon.

Hell the guy backing Majin DS cant even answer phenom's questions.

Goku won this.

WHITEBEARD
Originally posted by Akuki


Majin DS got knocked out of his Majin form from an attack from Fallen Uriel's Augoeides form, that was NOT a Galaxy busting attack or a Planet busting.

King Kandy
Originally posted by pr1983
written by sarutobi, a person who's credibility on this forum is shot to hell... yes, one line from him is going to counteract all the scans and arguments that were posted by your opponent.

stop whining.
Why the hell has Phenomonol not been banned yet?

Akuki
Originally posted by WHITEBEARD
Majin DS got knocked out of his Majin form from an attack from Fallen Uriel's Augoeides form, that was NOT a Galaxy busting attack or a Planet busting.
You do realize that in the thread I posted scans that confirmed that normal Uriel is a planet buster with light speed, and that Augeiodes is his upgraded form?

Phenomenol
Originally posted by pr1983
written by sarutobi, a person who's credibility on this forum is shot to hell... yes, one line from him is going to counteract all the scans and arguments that were posted by your opponent.

stop whining.

1. sarutobi can easily tell you a planet buster >>>>>>>>>>>>>city buster! IT DOESN'T TAKE A GENIOUS TO SEE THAT ONLY A BIAS INDIVIDUAL WOULS SAY OTHERWISE.

and all the scans are posted on MY SIDE, AKUKI HAS NO SCANS HELL I EVEN HAD TO TRANSLATE HIS SCANS AND BEAT HIM DOWN AT THE SAME TIME.

ALL OF YOU GUY'S CREDIBILITY IS SHOT TO HELL NOW! roll eyes (sarcastic)

Phenomenol
Originally posted by King Kandy
Why the hell has Phenomonol not been banned yet?

cAUSE i POST THE TRUTH!!

THIS THREAD IS GOING IN MY SIG TO SHOW THE BIAS AND IGNORANCE OF YOU GUYS!

Sarutobi700
Omg its like saying Cyclops a "BUILDING BUSTER" can beat Supes "a city buster". Its bias Phenominal dont listen to them, if they got unbiased judges who dont hate you or DB you would have one. Come on your argument was much better than his, you countered every single thing he put forward

Violent2Dope
Once this thread is decided upon, I will make my battlezone thread with Phenom. Who wants to judge?

Akuki
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Once this thread is decided upon, I will make my battlezone thread with Phenom. Who wants to judge?
you know I don't think anyone will be willing to judge one of his matches after this.

Btw Currently the judges vote stand as:
Trickster: for Akuki
Soljer: Abstaining but with a strong indication where he's leaning
Spookysmurph: hasn't voted yet
Illdelph12: hasn't voted yet

Violent2Dope
It's obvious Phenom/WHITEBEARD lost.

Sarutobi700
I will judge you and phenoms battle unbiasedly.
ps Phenominal and WB are different

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by Sarutobi700
I will judge you and phenoms battle unbiasedly.
ps Phenominal and WB are different According to you, Pyron's attacks<Ryu from Streetfighter's Hadoukens. REALLY unbiased. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Sarutobi700
^^Yup Pyron loses to Street Fighter characters in games and in canon

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by Sarutobi700
^^Yup Pyron loses to Street Fighter characters in games and in canon No he doesn't. no expression

Sarutobi700
^^Yes he does

Utrigita
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Once this thread is decided upon, I will make my battlezone thread with Phenom. Who wants to judge?

I can judge I doesn't give a shit about how win ore lose what are you debating???

superkronick92
I'll judge to

Gecko4lif
Ill judge

I think it is pretty clear im totally unbaised (except with threads concerning ds)

Sarutobi700
Ill judge aswell

Akuki
You really should make your own thread V2D. But yeah, your thread is going to probably be a bigger rape than this one was. D.S. vs. Pyron would actually be an interesting fight except for the fact that D.S. specializes in Pyron's weakness.

Creshosk
Originally posted by Sarutobi700
Ill judge aswell No, it's pretty damned clear that you're biased.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Akuki
You really should make your own thread V2D. But yeah, your thread is going to probably be a bigger rape than this one was. D.S. vs. Pyron would actually be an interesting fight except for the fact that D.S. specializes in Pyron's weakness.

already here comes the unknowing... who is D.S. Pyron I think I know who is.

Akuki
Originally posted by Utrigita
already here comes the unknowing... who is D.S. Pyron I think I know who is.
D.S. is Dark Schneider the character that I've being repping against Phenom in this thread. Check my posts in the early portion of the thread if you want to find out info about him.

darthgoober
Phenom you seem to be confused as to the purpose of a debate. It goes like this, you and your opponent both present what you guys consider to be evidence and then the judges decide which party they agree with based on the quality of each participants argument. The fact that Trick agrees with the case made by Akuki doesn't mean that he's biased, it means that he feels that Akuki did a better job overall. You may personally disagree but consider this, if none of the judges agree with your "evidence" then maybe it's not as concrete as you'd like to think. You have to at least consider the possibility that you're assessments of DBZ are wrong otherwise YOU'RE the one that's being unreasonable. And I can tell you now, your opinion regarding DBZ characters in relations to other characters ARE wrong... a lot...a lot lot... in fact I can't remember ever seeing you be right. Anyway bashing Trick and the rest of the judges will accomplish nothing so I suggest that you suck it up and take your loss like a man.


And pr ...

...will you do me a favor and edit anything Phenominal post that continues his case or otherwise serves no purpose other than argue with/berate the judges? The match is over so further arguments from him are against the rules.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Akuki
D.S. is Dark Schneider the character that I've being repping against Phenom in this thread. Check my posts in the early portion of the thread if you want to find out info about him.

And V2D battlezone thread is going to concerne D.S. vs Pyron confused

Don't think I will read up if I'm going to judge between the two, then it's best if I have absolutely no idea of either character.

Akuki
Originally posted by Utrigita
And V2D battlezone thread is going to concerne D.S. vs Pyron confused

Don't think I will read up if I'm going to judge between the two, then it's best if I have absolutely no idea of either character.
No, V2D is going to have a fight against Phenom who will be using Goku. I was just mentioning that D.S. vs. Pyron would be a much fairer match.

Utrigita
Originally posted by Akuki
No, V2D is going to have a fight against Phenom who will be using Goku. I was just mentioning that D.S. vs. Pyron would be a much fairer match.

Okay will just read this battlezone then big grin

darthgoober
Just to make sure pr sees this...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Phenom you seem to be confused as to the purpose of a debate. It goes like this, you and your opponent both present what you guys consider to be evidence and then the judges decide which party they agree with based on the quality of each participants argument. The fact that Trick agrees with the case made by Akuki doesn't mean that he's biased, it means that he feels that Akuki did a better job overall. You may personally disagree but consider this, if none of the judges agree with your "evidence" then maybe it's not as concrete as you'd like to think. You have to at least consider the possibility that you're assessments of DBZ are wrong otherwise YOU'RE the one that's being unreasonable. And I can tell you now, your opinion regarding DBZ characters in relations to other characters ARE wrong... a lot...a lot lot... in fact I can't remember ever seeing you be right. Anyway bashing Trick and the rest of the judges will accomplish nothing so I suggest that you suck it up and take your loss like a man.


And pr ...

...will you do me a favor and edit anything Phenominal post that continues his case or otherwise serves no purpose other than argue with/berate the judges? The match is over so further arguments from him are against the rules.

pr1983
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Pr, you can still vote. The count is technically 1-0 in favor of Akuki. Soljer didn't want to vote, though I can guess where his vote was going. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Your vote might not count for much at this point, but I am curious as to what it would have been.

i actually did read some of it, and akuki's argument just seemed to be better prepared and laid out...

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why the hell has Phenomonol not been banned yet?

Anyone who deserves to be banned will be, trust me on that...

Originally posted by Phenomenol
1. sarutobi can easily tell you a planet buster >>>>>>>>>>>>>city buster! IT DOESN'T TAKE A GENIOUS TO SEE THAT ONLY A BIAS INDIVIDUAL WOULS SAY OTHERWISE.

and all the scans are posted on MY SIDE, AKUKI HAS NO SCANS HELL I EVEN HAD TO TRANSLATE HIS SCANS AND BEAT HIM DOWN AT THE SAME TIME.

ALL OF YOU GUY'S CREDIBILITY IS SHOT TO HELL NOW! roll eyes (sarcastic)

even if it was, at least we had credibility to begin with...

you've been told. stop.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Phenom you seem to be confused as to the purpose of a debate. It goes like this, you and your opponent both present what you guys consider to be evidence and then the judges decide which party they agree with based on the quality of each participants argument. The fact that Trick agrees with the case made by Akuki doesn't mean that he's biased, it means that he feels that Akuki did a better job overall. You may personally disagree but consider this, if none of the judges agree with your "evidence" then maybe it's not as concrete as you'd like to think. You have to at least consider the possibility that you're assessments of DBZ are wrong otherwise YOU'RE the one that's being unreasonable. And I can tell you now, your opinion regarding DBZ characters in relations to other characters ARE wrong... a lot...a lot lot... in fact I can't remember ever seeing you be right. Anyway bashing Trick and the rest of the judges will accomplish nothing so I suggest that you suck it up and take your loss like a man.


And pr ...

...will you do me a favor and edit anything Phenominal post that continues his case or otherwise serves no purpose other than argue with/berate the judges? The match is over so further arguments from him are against the rules.

Goober, I would, but honestly, I'm closer to closing the thread than going back and editing things...

If you want to just declare a winner, i can close the thread...

Utrigita
what about a pm?

darthgoober
Originally posted by pr1983
Goober, I would, but honestly, I'm closer to closing the thread than going back and editing things...

If you want to just declare a winner, i can close the thread...
Well given Phenoms behavior, the judges opinions thus far, and the obviousness of the matches results, I have no problem declaring Akuki the winner(I was actually considering doing it already anyway when Phenom started bashing Trick). Go ahead and lock it...

pr1983
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well given Phenoms behavior, the judges opinions thus far, and the obviousness of the matches results, I have no problem declaring Akuki the winner(I was actually considering doing it already anyway when Phenom started bashing Trick). Go ahead and lock it...

Works for me...

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