Originally posted by Phenomenol
Okay Akuki, So let me break down DS according from the scans you posted we have..........
1. DS can fight and move at the speed of sound or a little above...
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0003qt3.jpg
2. DS and Uriel Broke through the "WALLS OF HELL" and ended up back on Earth, the battle between DS and Uriel FAILIED to even destroy that Village.
3. You have shown that none of DS Attacks would be formiddable at all to Goku. DS Spells don't seem strong enough (matter of fact they are not).
Time for Some SUPA POWAAA!! but first.........
The Anime and Me," a mini-manga by Toriyama where he talks about the origin of Dragonball and his relation in regards to the anime. It was an insert of "Dragonball Z Anime Special," 1989.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/dayspring/AnimeMe4.jpg
12: From time to time, il would happen that people whom I didn't even know were approaching me about the anime. Things were often said like: "Oh jeeze, between the manga and the anime, you must never take any time to let yourself breathe!". In reality, I had hardly worked at all on the anime, I had put confidence in my collaborators. I had enough to do just with the manga. I didn't want to work myself to death, you know...
Toriyama: I want to live until I'm 100 years old!
13: For example, drawing an image of a movement in a manga is relatively simple, but to animate this image, you had to decompose the movement and draw all the intermediary movements. That demands a colossal amount of work. (Ok, the example of Kame-sennin might not be the most appropriate...)
14: Of course, those who have read Dragon Ball have noticed that certain stories which are found in the anime didn't existe in the manga.
Oolong: What's this? I never saw that in the manga....
END: As one adventure in the manga corresponds to about 10 minutes of animation, and since one episode comprises on average 30 minutes, the entire series of Dragon Ball would have passed by very quickly. The team of animators therefore had to insert some original stories. I admire what they have done, that's a hell of a job!
Toriyama: Dragon Ball, it's the anime and the manga
Anime=Canon.
Ok lets go over this point by point.
1) That scan is mistranslated, I have already mentioned that it is incorrectly translated, pointed out that it is impossible to strike 1000's of times per second with sound speed, and provided you with a scan from the data book which clearly states that the Seraphim, the creatures that he was fighting, are faster than light and can destroy planets.
http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seraphsjk0.jpg
2) You cannot necessarily equate the surrounding destruction with the power of the attacks, In this case we have art evidence that they broke through the walls of hell, the village survived for the simple reason that they weren't targeting it, simple as that. After all look at the final DBZ episodes, they claim to be planet destroying blasts but they don't seem to blow the planet while fighting on it.
Also there a huge amount of evidence that contradicts your claim.
-It has already been stated that the Seraphim Class of angels can destroy planets
http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seraphsjk0.jpg
Also in this panel when Uriel is in Augeiodes form Michael stated that "he could crush the entire galaxy" and also that "he surpasses the Seraph's strongest attack", which would be God hand, Michaels own technique that has the power of an exploding supernova.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/d439.jpg
Why should we take Michael seriously? Well first of all as the most powerful of the angels and Uriel's commender it's pretty certain she has a good grasp on his power level.
In addition to this, this power level is not out of whack with the earlier power shown by other high level characters such as Satan.
Here we are shown just how large Satan's Augeoides form is:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/BASTARD19_060.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/BASTARD19_061.jpg
Here that Augeiodes is destroying numerous planets simply by moving though them:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/BASTARD19_059.jpg
So what do this tell us? We have an extremely reliable consistent source telling us that both Uriel is faster than light and that he is on a galaxy buster level. On the other hand in the case of your claim with Buu, we have have one shoort clip from a filler episode in the anime that is a complete outlier in terms of all other demonstrated power levels in both the manga and the anime, not to mention the fact that in this case the manga provides a completely different showing of his power. In incidents such as this it becomes clear that the manga as the original source material should take precedence. Not to mention the fact that Goku himself has demonstrated nowhere near the power levels of Buu, and the only way that he was able to defeat him was by gathering an energy ball that took him several minutes to gather, do you really think a lightspeed opponent like D.S. would allow him that amount of time? In fact do you even have any proof that Goku gets anywhere close to lightspeed?
When it comes down to it, D.S. is on Galaxy buster level, and Goku is at most Planet buster level. D.S. has a demonstrated an ability to maintain shields against planet and galaxy busting opponents, he's demonstrated the ability to regenerate from attacks of that level.
Darshu fires off one powerful round from the Dragon Knight and Goku is done for. Darshu then returns to his harem http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gal23pj9.jpg
BTW would you mind telling me what episode of DBZ that galaxy pic is from?
