Hyper Sonic vs Arceus at level 100(max all around stats)

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espiemerl
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ESB -1138
Hyper Sonic has unlimited power and is invincible. Arceus on the other hand is neither.

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Hyper Sonic has unlimited power and is invincible. Arceus on the other hand is neither. You just claimed Sonic is omnipotent. Wait for rings to run out ftw.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
You just claimed Sonic is omnipotent.

Arceus isn't. Heck so far all we have to go on Arceus is the game in which he has the highest stats of any Pokemon and yet he can still be hurt. Arceus is basically an unknown.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Wait for rings to run out ftw.

Yeah because Hyper Sonic is just going to stand around and do nothing. It's not like he can use the Lightspeed Attack, travel faster than the speed of sound, and control time and space with Chaos Control.

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Arceus isn't. Heck so far all we have to go on Arceus is the game in which he has the highest stats of any Pokemon and yet he can still be hurt. Arceus is basically an unknown.



Yeah because Hyper Sonic is just going to stand around and do nothing. It's not like he can use the Lightspeed Attack, travel faster than the speed of sound, and control time and space with Chaos Control. 1. Love how you avoided my point of how you claimed Sonic was omnipotent, when he clearly is not.

2. Arceus is God.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Love how you avoided my point of how you claimed Sonic was omnipotent, when he clearly is not.

1. Hyper Sonic possesses unlimited power and is invincible. Arceus on the other hand has only been seen in a game where he can defeated by basically any Pokemon. Arceus isn't defined yet like Mew, Mewtwo, or many other legendary birds.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. Arceus is God.

2. We see gods get defeated all the time in games. Heck Sonic defeated a god; Solaris.

espiemerl
Let's see, Both Arceus & Hyper Sonic have all these abilities, but different abilities, Arceus is really beasty with it's stats, and has these plates that beaf itself up as well as powerful moves. I really like both, but I'd have to say Hyper Sonic wins. Hyper Sonic has an attack that kills all onscreen enemies exept bosses and he can actually kill someone even if he is standing still and they bump into him, he's also invicnible with limitless power, immense strength, tremendous speed, and of course his trusty Chaos Control.

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by ESB -1138
1. Hyper Sonic possesses unlimited power and is invincible. Arceus on the other hand has only been seen in a game where he can defeated by basically any Pokemon. Arceus isn't defined yet like Mew, Mewtwo, or many other legendary birds.



2. We see gods get defeated all the time in games. Heck Sonic defeated a god; Solaris. 1. The Supers in Sonic games have been shown to be injured by powerful enough entities just so you know.

2. Arceus is LITERALLY God.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. The Supers in Sonic games have been shown to be injured by powerful enough entities just so you know.

1. Super yes (and even then it took a god to damage them), but not Hyper. Hyper > Super. The Super Emeralds used to become Hyper are the Chaos Emeralds further empowered by the Master Emerald.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. Arceus is LITERALLY God.

2. Who again can be defeated by basically any Pokemon. Arceus has nothing to back himself up with yet. Until a movie or the anime or something comes out showing what Arceus can do we cannot really judge the full strength of Arceus. How are you not getting that?

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by ESB -1138
1. Super yes (and even then it took a god to damage them), but not Hyper. Hyper > Super. The Super Emeralds used to become Hyper are the Chaos Emeralds further empowered by the Master Emerald.



2. Who again can be defeated by basically any Pokemon. Arceus has nothing to back himself up with yet. Until a movie or the anime or something comes out showing what Arceus can do we cannot really judge the full strength of Arceus. How are you not getting that? 1. NOES! YOU ARE A FANBOY!

2. FANBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Yeah, Hyper Sonic wins, I already knew that. evil face

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. NOES! YOU ARE A FANBOY!

2. FANBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!


That's not true! It's impossible! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Oh wait, you're right.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yeah, Hyper Sonic wins, I already knew that. evil face

Until we can see what Arceus can do.

espiemerl
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. The Supers in Sonic games have been shown to be injured by powerful enough entities just so you know.

2. Arceus is LITERALLY God.

Hyper Sonic is deadlier than Super Sonic and unlike Super sonic is truely invincible with ulimited power, and Arceus is a beast too since he has the best Max stats, best moves, and best abilities of any Pokemon, but Arceus can't take Hyper Sonic.

Violent2Dope
Arceus is most likely stronger than M2, they probably made his stats that way for a reason.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Arceus is most likely stronger than M2, they probably made his stats that way for a reason.

Of course he is stronger than Mewtwo; but the question is by how much. Mewtwo was able to nuke an island basically. So what can Arceus do? Until then he is an unknown.

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Of course he is stronger than Mewtwo; but the question is by how much. Mewtwo was able to nuke an island basically. So what can Arceus do? Until then he is an unknown. Yepperz. Pyron solos Sonicverse. big grin

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yepperz. Pyron solos Sonicverse. big grin

Pyron can't even stand a chance against Robotnik's most powerful and feared creation!






































http://www.theghz.com/sonic/son1/son1_04.gif

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Pyron can't even stand a chance against Robotnik's most powerful and feared creation!






































http://www.theghz.com/sonic/son1/son1_04.gif jawdrop OH NOEZ! HEAD FOR THE HILLS PYRON!

espiemerl
the winner: Sonic

Remindme
Arceus created Time didn't he?

Burning thought
put an indestructtable shield round himself, w8 for rings to wear out, then beat on the little blue queer @ss

MadMel
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Pyron can't even stand a chance against Robotnik's most powerful and feared creation!






































http://www.theghz.com/sonic/son1/son1_04.gif
LMAO!!

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
put an indestructtable shield round himself, w8 for rings to wear out, then beat on the little blue queer @ss

Arceus can do that!? Whoo than he shouldn't have been beaten in Diamond and Pearl (or caught)!!!

Burning thought
hes the pokemon God, if he can be cought then its PIS or a gaming mechanic for giggles.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
hes the pokemon God, if he can be cought then its PIS or a gaming mechanic for giggles.

And Sonic (as Super) defeated a god (Solaris). What's the big deal? Video games have gods getting defeated left and right all the time.

Burning thought
Sonic had help from Shadow who is debatably superior to Sonic and Metal sonic, not to menstion other people giving him advice, even Eggman.

Arceus created time, space and through him created the beings that made spirit and matter

hes not just some bone idle time god like Solaris, hes basically "the" God in a way. Just of the Pokemon universe

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
Sonic had help from Shadow who is debatably superior to Sonic and Metal sonic, not to menstion other people giving him advice, even Eggman.

And that was Super Sonic; this is Hyper Sonic. Hyper Sonic is much stronger than Shadow.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Arceus created time, space and through him created the beings that made spirit and matter

hes not just some bone idle time god like Solaris, hes basically "the" God in a way. Just of the Pokemon universe

Who still gets beaten in Diamond and Pearl. What's your point?

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
And that was Super Sonic; this is Hyper Sonic. Hyper Sonic is much stronger than Shadow.



Who still gets beaten in Diamond and Pearl. What's your point?


hmm sorry i dont know about Hyper then but still as i say

beaten? canonwise? or in-game? i have not played against it, but ive played the games and if you mean a little pokemon battle where it faints and you catch it in a ball then you fail, thats gameplay.

the thing itself is supposed to be immense, and the fact still stands, Hyper sonic altho more power wont have the support he gets to fight Solaris from shadow or Metal and hell, just w8 for his rings to wear out, whats he going to do against a God of this level.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm sorry i dont know about Hyper then but still as i say

Hyper form is achieved by using the Master Emerald to further empower the Chaos Emeralds turning them into Super Emeralds.

Originally posted by Burning thought
beaten? canonwise? or in-game? i have not played against it, but ive played the games and if you mean a little pokemon battle where it faints and you catch it in a ball then you fail, thats gameplay.

And yet Arceus has only appeared in the game so that's all we can go by. Him being beaten by basically any Pokemon. That's why I have said again and again and again that this Pokemon is an UNKNOWN because he has yet to actually appear in a movie or anime to show his true feats. How come no one here seems to understand that?

Originally posted by Burning thought
the thing itself is supposed to be immense, and the fact still stands, Hyper sonic altho more power wont have the support he gets to fight Solaris from shadow or Metal and hell, just w8 for his rings to wear out, whats he going to do against a God of this level.

The only reason Sonic needed Shadow's and Silver's help was because Solaris existed in the past, present, and future and could only be defeated in the past, present, and future at the same time. Kind of hard for Sonic to be in three places at once.

Oh and his Ring Energy won't go down considering Hyper Sonic would use Chaos Control to just freeze time.

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Hyper form is achieved by using the Master Emerald to further empower the Chaos Emeralds turning them into Super Emeralds.



And yet Arceus has only appeared in the game so that's all we can go by. Him being beaten by basically any Pokemon. That's why I have said again and again and again that this Pokemon is an UNKNOWN because he has yet to actually appear in a movie or anime to show his true feats. How come no one here seems to understand that?



The only reason Sonic needed Shadow's and Silver's help was because Solaris existed in the past, present, and future and could only be defeated in the past, present, and future at the same time. Kind of hard for Sonic to be in three places at once.

Oh and his Ring Energy won't go down considering Hyper Sonic would use Chaos Control to just freeze time.

yes he has only appeared in the game, but actually gameplay is not where you get info on him, its the lore, and in the book "The Original Story" it says hes like God, creating time and space, then created other beings to create spirit and matter while he sleeps, thats the lore, if hes created Time and space itself, Time freeze is unlikely going to work on him, also you said that argument before, freezing time, but Sonic himself is not himself frozen is he, otherwise he would imediatley lose, its sonics power thats depleting not anything outside and his chaos control freezes everything outside.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
yes he has only appeared in the game, but actually gameplay is not where you get info on him, its the lore, and in the book "The Original Story" it says hes like God, creating time and space, then created other beings to create spirit and matter while he sleeps, thats the lore, if hes created Time and space itself, Time freeze is unlikely going to work on him, also you said that argument before, freezing time, but Sonic himself is not himself frozen is he, otherwise he would imediatley lose, its sonics power thats depleting not anything outside and his chaos control freezes everything outside.

No because we see Super Shadow use Chaos Control while fighting Devil Doom and his ring count doesn't go down. And yet even though Arceus "created" everything and is "God" it cannot learn every TM like Mew can. Even though it is said that it created the world with its thousand arms, it cannot learn any TMs nor HMs that uses arms or punches. Heck it's appearence lacks any arms at all. You see Arceus is again an unknown. Thing is the story of the "Original Story" could be something the developers through in there to show that ancient cultures would worship Pokemon. Until it is offically seen in the anime/movie it is basically an unknown.

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
No because we see Super Shadow use Chaos Control while fighting Devil Doom and his ring count doesn't go down. And yet even though Arceus "created" everything and is "God" it cannot learn every TM like Mew can. Even though it is said that it created the world with its thousand arms, it cannot learn any TMs nor HMs that uses arms or punches. Heck it's appearence lacks any arms at all. You see Arceus is again an unknown. Thing is the story of the "Original Story" could be something the developers through in there to show that ancient cultures would worship Pokemon. Until it is offically seen in the anime/movie it is basically an unknown.

can you show me this please, devil doom thing and his power not reducing

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
can you show me this please, devil doom thing and his power not reducing

I'll try.

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Shadow slows down time and thus his ring depletion time also slowed down.

Burning thought
so what would negate his time limit on these powers, in that video his time limit for doing slow time, (slow time, not stop) is limited to in the vid about 10 secs, maybe less. Then Time is back to normal agian and so is his ring reduction

ESB -1138
Hyper > Super

Super Shadow would be limited but the powers held within Hyper Sonic is unlimited.

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Hyper > Super

Super Shadow would be limited but the powers held within Hyper Sonic is unlimited.

can you show me this please?

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
can you show me this please?

He only appeared in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. The Chaos Emeralds are described as having unlimited energy, which is why they are often sought after by other characters. However in Sonic Adventure 2, after the ARK's Eclipse Cannon destroyed half of the moon with six emeralds, it was described as taking far too long to charge back up without the seventh. When all seven of the emeralds are in close proximity, they react with each other, generating far more powerful energy than simply seven times the energy of one emerald.

The Master Emerald has unbound power, and is used to keep the Angel Island afloat in the sky. The Master Emerald also has the power to fully control everything that the Chaos Emeralds do, as according to the ancient saying from Sonic Adventure: "The servers are the 7 Chaos. Chaos is power, power enriched by the heart. The controller is the one that unifies the chaos." The Master Emerald also possesses the ability to both negate and empower the Chaos Emeralds, meaning it can stop the energy of the Chaos Emeralds, or enhance them, as seen in Sonic Adventure and Sonic 3 & Knuckles, respectively. In Sonic & Knuckles, Mecha Sonic also absorbed its energy to obtain an enhanced form very similar to Super Sonic. The Master Emerald has also been seen creating three-dimensional holographic images within itself in Sonic Adventure.

The Master Emerald further empowered the Chaos Emeralds transforming them into Super Emeralds and thus allowing Sonic to transform into Hyper Sonic. Starting with Sonic R, players are no longer allowed to manually transform, but are simply given the ability through the story. The rings are only used as a gameplay mechanic to limit how long the form can last. The exception to this was Sonic Riders, where only one Ring is needed. Running out of Rings in a final boss battle results in an instant loss of a life, usually due to the character being in unsurvivable conditions such as over a flooded city street or in the cold of space.

espiemerl
Hyper characters have unlimited energy and are invincible. Hyper Sonic would definitely win, even if Arceus could hurt Hyper Sonic, which it can't, Hyper Sonic is way too quick to catch and has Chaos Control to freeze time and 1 hit on Arceus will end the fight, or he could Spin Dash Combo someone way tougher and vaporize them, that's how incredible Hyper Sonic is, he'll do a 100-hit-Spin Dash-Combo on Arceus in 0.1 second and vaporize it. Arceus isn't gonna be able to take Hyper Sonic. big grin cool

Burning thought
no he wont have to, hell jsut recreate time so that Hyper sonic never excisted...done...that was quick

espiemerl
Originally posted by Burning thought
no he wont have to, hell jsut recreate time so that Hyper sonic never excisted...done...that was quick
It will take time for Arceus to do that and by the time Arceus does Arceus will explode laughing out loud

Darkhalen
Sonic is better then any pokemon

Sonic wins since he can control time with Chaos control in his Hyper/Super form

Burning thought
Arceus? hes not just "any" pokemon hes basically God, how will it take time, if he deletes time? he created it, he will just shape it so he has all the time and sonics speed means nothing in an instant if he wants to, hes basically God, he could rip the very spirit from Hyper sonics body since he created that to

espiemerl
Originally posted by Darkhalen
Sonic is better then any pokemon

Sonic wins since he can control time with Chaos control in his Hyper/Super form
Exactly, Hyper Sonic will win without even trying.

And also ESB -1138 I never knew your name was also Shadow x 20 one time.

espiemerl
Originally posted by Burning thought
Arceus could rip the very spirit from Hyper sonics body since he created that too No it didn't, it created the pokemon world, not Sonic.

Darkhalen
Originally posted by ESB -1138
He only appeared in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. The Chaos Emeralds are described as having unlimited energy, which is why they are often sought after by other characters. However in Sonic Adventure 2, after the ARK's Eclipse Cannon destroyed half of the moon with six emeralds, it was described as taking far too long to charge back up without the seventh. When all seven of the emeralds are in close proximity, they react with each other, generating far more powerful energy than simply seven times the energy of one emerald.

The Master Emerald has unbound power, and is used to keep the Angel Island afloat in the sky. The Master Emerald also has the power to fully control everything that the Chaos Emeralds do, as according to the ancient saying from Sonic Adventure: "The servers are the 7 Chaos. Chaos is power, power enriched by the heart. The controller is the one that unifies the chaos." The Master Emerald also possesses the ability to both negate and empower the Chaos Emeralds, meaning it can stop the energy of the Chaos Emeralds, or enhance them, as seen in Sonic Adventure and Sonic 3 & Knuckles, respectively. In Sonic & Knuckles, Mecha Sonic also absorbed its energy to obtain an enhanced form very similar to Super Sonic. The Master Emerald has also been seen creating three-dimensional holographic images within itself in Sonic Adventure.

The Master Emerald further empowered the Chaos Emeralds transforming them into Super Emeralds and thus allowing Sonic to transform into Hyper Sonic. Starting with Sonic R, players are no longer allowed to manually transform, but are simply given the ability through the story. The rings are only used as a gameplay mechanic to limit how long the form can last. The exception to this was Sonic Riders, where only one Ring is needed. Running out of Rings in a final boss battle results in an instant loss of a life, usually due to the character being in unsurvivable conditions such as over a flooded city street or in the cold of space.

You know your history all of this is spot on 100% correct

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by Darkhalen
Sonic is better then any pokemon

Sonic wins since he can control time with Chaos control in his Hyper/Super form Mewtwo would beat any Sonic.

Darkhalen
no he would not can't hit what you can't see

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by Darkhalen
no he would not can't hit what you can't see M2's mind is faster than the fastest of Supercomputers. Mindrape ftw.

Remindme
Mewtwo would be in control of Sonic's mind before he could even being to think about using speed

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
no he wont have to, hell jsut recreate time so that Hyper sonic never excisted...done...that was quick

Proof? Can you prove Arceus can do this?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Arceus? hes not just "any" pokemon hes basically God, how will it take time, if he deletes time? he created it, he will just shape it so he has all the time and sonics speed means nothing in an instant if he wants to, hes basically God, he could rip the very spirit from Hyper sonics body since he created that to

Again, proof? The Chaos Emeralds gave Sonic life. And these are the Super Emeralds. Arceus created the Pokemon universe (maybe) but not the Sonic universe.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Mewtwo would beat any Sonic.

No. Mewtwo would get pwned by Hyper Sonic.

Sol Valentine
Zomulgustav would tripleWTFPWN hyper Sonic just by waving his hand.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Sol Valentine
Zomulgustav

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Sol Valentine
I'll PM it to you.

espiemerl
Originally posted by ESB -1138
confused confused confused confused who confused confused confused confused


Yeah who is that exactly?

espiemerl
Oh and Arceus may be strong, but he can be beaten by any pokemon as ESB -1138 explained earlier, he is helpless against Hyper Sonic.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Sol Valentine
I'll PM it to you.

Okay.



But onto Hyper Sonic vs Arceus; Hyper Sonic WINS!!

shin_gear
Hyper Sonic because he gets high on sugar.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by shin_gear
Hyper Sonic because he gets high on sugar.

That's not sugar. He runs through the Mushroom Forest in Sonic & Knuckles and it gets caught on fire; hint, hint.

espiemerl
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Okay.



But onto Hyper Sonic vs Arceus; Hyper Sonic WINS!!

Exactly Hyper Sonic is invincible with unlimited energy, Arceus is vincible with limited energy, Hyper Sonic also has WAY higher attack power and could destroy a mountain with just a flick of his finger while Arceus would probably need to use a power attack to destroy one, and Hyper Sonic is MOUNTAINS faster than Arceus.

espiemerl
Originally posted by ESB -1138
That's not sugar. He runs through the Mushroom Forest in Sonic & Knuckles and it gets caught on fire; hint, hint.

ESB -1138 is right it isn't sugar Hyper Sonic is just tougher than Arceus and that's how he would win.

ESB -1138
If you look at the right side of the screen under a red X you'll see an edit button. Just saying; try it, you might like it.

espiemerl
Did it on the Solaris vs Jedah topic, sorry for not using it here. And I never would have guessed you were Shadow x 20 once.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by espiemerl
And I never would have guessed you were Shadow x 20 once.

...why is that?

espiemerl
on a Sonic vs Link topic you were Shadow x 20 but as was the case with the Super Sonic vs Super saiyan 1 Goku post it showed ESB -1138.

Anywais Hyper Sonic wins, after all, how can Arceus ever hope of beating something a BUNCH of times stronger and faster than himself? Hyper Sonic is also invincible with limitless energy, and He just says Chaos Control and it's all over

espiemerl
Now all of us exept Burning through have agreed that Hyper Sonic wins.

Burning thought
yeh but your all hyper sonic fanboys wheras i dislike pokemon and still think hyper sonic is out of his league againt God...

Darkhalen
I hate Pokemon and I am an athiest no gods exsist (except for me) Hyper Sonic wins

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
yeh but your all hyper sonic fanboys wheras i dislike pokemon and still think hyper sonic is out of his league againt God...

Ha! You have lost and you know you lost so you called us fanboys!

espiemerl
Yes, ESB -1138 is right, Hyper Sonic WTF pwns Arceus not because we are fanboys but because Hyper Sonic is just better than Arceus.


Hyper Sonic is invincible with unlimited energy, while Arceus is vincible with limited energy, and Hyper Sonic is also stronger than Arceus by far, Hyper Sonic could destroy a mountain with just a flick of his finger, Arceus is nowhere near that powerful and would need to do a powerful attack to destroy a mountain, and Hyper Sonic is MOUNTAINS faster than Arceus. Hyper Sonic also has better abilities than Arceus such as Chaos Control, and the fight would be all over if Hyper Sonic did Chaos Control. Oh and Hyper Sonic doesn't even need to attack Arceus to win he can just grab a hold of Arceus and the pokemon will still take damage because of the stars around Hyper Sonic's body and maybe Arceus will even die, this is a special ability Hyper Sonic has, anything that touches Hyper Sonic gets hurt because of the field of stars around Hyper Sonic's body.

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Ha! You have lost and you know you lost so you called us fanboys!

erm, no....your all fanboys, its obvious...your saying ESB your not a fanboy..laughable...

also espiemerl...where you getting this rubbish from?...all this Arceus cannot do this, Arceus cannot do that, he created time and space itself ffs..he created matter and spirit..the thing is going to stomp hypersonic, erase him completly if it wants to, take his spirit from him, and in a time period that Hyper sonic could not even percieve, hell the thing could recreate time, without sonic in it.

Sonic loses massively, without attacking once...

unless this is the Arceus just from gameplay and not lore, then it loses because its just a pokemon with a set amount of health and attacks, if its the real one, from lore, then it stomps the hedgehog

espiemerl
Duh, this is the "Games Versus Forum"! Arceus can be defeated by any pokemon in Diamond&Pearl.
See, Hyper Sonic is invincible, Arceus isn't, Hyper Sonic has unlimited energy, Arceus doesn't.
And you're calling us fanboys, like ESB -1138 said you know you've lost and that's why you call us fanboys. You're the fanboy, Burning through

espiemerl
Look Arceus is incredibly powerful but Hyper Sonic is invincible, which means he can't die or get hurt, where as Arceus constantly loses health as he fights a pokemon, he can get hurt enough by any pokemon in D&P to capture. He also dies when his health reaches 0.

Burning thought
Originally posted by espiemerl
Duh, this is the "Games Versus Forum"! Arceus can be defeated by any pokemon in Diamond&Pearl.
See, Hyper Sonic is invincible, Arceus isn't, Hyper Sonic has unlimited energy, Arceus doesn't.
And you're calling us fanboys, like ESB -1138 said you know you've lost and that's why you call us fanboys. You're the fanboy, Burning through

Duh...you obviously have completly lost the concept of the forum, this is game characters and only on rare occasions do people use the actual "in-game" versions, the lore and cutscenes and abilities are all combined unless otherwise stated, but you seem to be a noobie so its okie, now you know.

Hyper sonic invincible? where does it say this, Super sonic is invincible still Solaris bashes him about. Obviously the things "invincibility" is limited. regardless, invincibility and energy doesnt mean anything if your opponent can delete you from time and space.

btw, you sock?

espiemerl
Super Sonic isn't invincible but Hyper Sonic is

espiemerl
Originally posted by Burning thought
invincibility and energy doesnt mean anything if your opponent can delete you from time and space.

Hyper Sonic says Chaos Control that's all.

Burning thought
Arceus doesnt say anything, it just happens, time is shaped the way it wants, you really think something like the puny master emerald=creator of time and space itself, lame....

can you prove Hyper sonic is absolutely invincible to all harm?...

espiemerl
Hyper Sonic could use Chaos Control to teleport Arceus to some far far away galaxy and use Chaos Control to teleport himself back to earth...then he would never have to suffer an Arceus appearence ever again.

espiemerl
beer

Burning thought
Originally posted by espiemerl
Hyper Sonic could use Chaos Control to teleport Arceus to some far far away galaxy and use Chaos Control to teleport himself back to earth...then he would never have to suffer an Arceus appearence ever again.

has he ever sent beings that far? do you foolishly belive the being who "created" time and space is going to be worries about his place in the universe, as i said, sonic gets deleted from the timestream or his spirit is disintrgrated, OR his matter

espiemerl
Chaos Control is a very powerful move

Darkhalen
Hyper sonic wins face it you LOST

Burning thought
i havnt lost to anything..so far your argument is "Hyper sonic wins..Chaos control ZOMG uber"

that does not beat a being that created time and space itself....face it, you lost

espiemerl
Hyper Sonic wins, but wow, both Sonic and Arceus are great fighters.

Burning thought
Arceus i wouldnt rate as a fighter, he doesnt need to fight, hes God

espiemerl
He's not God, he's Arceus, and HYPER SONIC IS INVINCIBLE, remember, if it was regular sonic fighting, than Arceus would smash him into a million pieces

Burning thought
if you knew Arceus law, hes as close as God as pokemon can get, and he can bypass any of hypersonics powers easily, invincibility he can blink him out of the time excistence, no more sonic, speed? he created space and time itself, which the rules of speed are based around, sonics speed is no factor to a being who created the very elements sonic uses

espiemerl
He created the pokemon universe, but that doesn't include sonic

Burning thought
it doesnt matter, he created time and space, spirit...those things connect to sonic in so many ways and he tries to use them all the time, the problem is, this dude "created" such forces, he would simply recreate time and space itself and delete sonic

espiemerl
Hyper Sonic wins!blowup

espiemerl
But if it was regular Sonic, than the hedgehog would blowup blowup

Darkhalen
HYPER SONIC WINS Arceus IS NOT A GOD

Burning thought
Originally posted by Darkhalen
HYPER SONIC WINS Arceus IS NOT A GOD

bs, he created time and space itself if hes not a god then hes far closer than Hypersonic can ever imagine, and Hypersonic gets deleted from Time, theres nothing he can do

shin_gear
Palkia is awesome, though.
Wait a minute...Arceus is in Diamond and Pearl?! jawdrop

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
bs, he created time and space itself if hes not a god then hes far closer than Hypersonic can ever imagine, and Hypersonic gets deleted from Time, theres nothing he can do

Expect Arceus gets defeated in Diamond and Pearl. If he had all these amazing abilities he wouldn't have been able to be captured.

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Expect Arceus gets defeated in Diamond and Pearl. If he had all these amazing abilities he wouldn't have been able to be captured.

gameplay dude, in LOK blood omen Kain can collect 99 hearts of darkness, the truth of it is, their gameplay...gives players stuff to do, truth of it is, theres only one heart of darkness inside Kain wink

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
gameplay dude, in LOK blood omen Kain can collect 99 hearts of darkness, the truth of it is, their gameplay...gives players stuff to do, truth of it is, theres only one heart of darkness inside Kain wink

You see the thing is there is stuff out of gameplay that shows what Kain can do. There is nothing out of gameplay that shows what Arceus can do.

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
You see the thing is there is stuff out of gameplay that shows what Kain can do. There is nothing out of gameplay that shows what Arceus can do.

theres lore in the book you can find, have you found it?

has info on Arceus law and what he does...thats more than good enough

shin_gear
...Is Arceus in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl?

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
theres lore in the book you can find, have you found it?

has info on Arceus law and what he does...thats more than good enough

Yeah I found it. Doesn't prove anything though. How would the people have written down what Arceus did? For all we know it could just be a story to show how ancient civilizations tried to create fables and myths to try to answer the unknown. Until Arceus has appeared in a movie/anime he is unknown. We have no clue what he can do.

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Yeah I found it. Doesn't prove anything though. How would the people have written down what Arceus did? For all we know it could just be a story to show how ancient civilizations tried to create fables and myths to try to answer the unknown. Until Arceus has appeared in a movie/anime he is unknown. We have no clue what he can do.

maybe, so becasuse hes unknown hyper sonic automatically wins...no..nobody wins then

if all we have is some lore (your correct, could be "made" by the characters in the game ,but the developers put it there). Lore and Gameplay which counts for nothing due to its gameplay nature.

Darkhalen
He is Not a god HYPER SONIC could go so fast to slow time or reverse time and stop his birth and if he is so great he would not loose even in games there has never been a true battle against a GOD unless the hero is another God face it Hyper SONIC has everything he wishes he could have that and I doubt a pokemon character could be that great since pokemon is pathetic and single minded

Burning thought
thats where you fail, you know nothing on this pokemon in peticulour wheras i know of Hypersonic, i didnt need you to tell me things like "hes invincible", "hes fast" "hes strong" "he can manip time". I knew all these things, but as it states in the book, he created everything, no other pokemon has had that said about them, its something the developers have made.

if hes Uknown as ESB says. then the fight is void, if hes in the lore version from the book, he wins easily, simple as that..

espiemerl
Hyper Sonic does a 100-hit-Light-Speed-Attack-combo and it's all over, he did this when he was fighting Chaos 0 and he was already moving at lightning speed, so what could he have done if he was Hyper Sonic? Arceus gets his @$$ beat without even landing a hit on Hyper Sonic. What can I say, Hyper Sonic is a monster.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
thats where you fail, you know nothing on this pokemon in peticulour wheras i know of Hypersonic, i didnt need you to tell me things like "hes invincible", "hes fast" "hes strong" "he can manip time". I knew all these things, but as it states in the book, he created everything, no other pokemon has had that said about them, its something the developers have made.

if hes Uknown as ESB says. then the fight is void, if hes in the lore version from the book, he wins easily, simple as that..

I know a good bunch about Arceus. Like he can learn every TM and HM EXPECT for moves that require a limb such as Mega Punch, Thunder Punch, Mega Kick, and so on and so forth. I also know his Pokedex entry says he created the universe with his one thousand arms despite him showing no sign of any arms and he can't learn any move that require an arm such as Mega Punch.

Here's the Original Story
In the beginning, there was only a churning turmoil of chaos. At the heart of chaos, where all things became one, appeared an Egg. Having tumbled from the vortex, the Egg gave rise to the Original One (Arceus). From itself, two beings the Original One did make. Time started to spin (Palkia). Space began to expand (Dialga). From itself again, three living things the Original One did make. The two beings wished, and from them (not Arceus), matter came to be. The three living things wished, and from them (not Arceus), spirit came to be. The world created, the Original One took to unyielding sleep...

Violent2Dope
Who cares. Once Hulk Hogan taps into the infinate power of Hulkamania he would crush them both.

King Kandy
Originally posted by ESB -1138
So what can Arceus do?
create the universe?

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Who cares. Once Hulk Hogan taps into the infinate power of Hulkamania he would crush them both.

You better believe it brother!

espiemerl
He's your brother!?!?!?!?!? He must live in Mongal too.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
if hes Uknown as ESB says. then the fight is void, if hes in the lore version from the book, he wins easily, simple as that..

Arceus isn't the only unknown is this battle. Hyper Sonic is a pretty big unknown. Outside of gameplay no feats showing the power of Hyper Sonic exists. All that is known is that Hyper Sonic is stronger than Super Sonic.

Violent2Dope
And Hulk Hogan one shots both.

Remindme
Meanwhile.......... Ash's Pikachu learns a new thunder attack and blows up the world, the fight ends

Violent2Dope
And Hogan taps into the power of Hulkamania and reforms it, and erases Pikachu and Ash.

shin_gear
Pikachu would one shot Pyron. erm

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by shin_gear
Pikachu would one shot Pyron. erm Of course, Ash's Pikachu>All of Pokemon, but Hulk Hogan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>God.

Darkhalen
Hyper wins

espiemerl
Indeed

Burning thought
pff sonic couldnt fight his way out of a paper bag

Violent2Dope
Only because Hogan blessed that bag with Hulkamania power.

Burning thought
big grin pff lieszor, prove it!, the bag is a normal bag made by homeless people and orphans, Sonic just gets tired trying to break free

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