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1). Normal Raiden versus Normal Kadaj

2) Normal Raiden versus Materia equipped Kadaj

3) Cyborg Raiden versus Normal Kadaj

4) Cyborg Raiden versus Materia equipped Kadaj

Stipulations : No PIS , No CIS , No 'Dark Life-stream dogs'. Both are only equipped with their normal outfits and swords.


Who wins ?

What does CIS stand for?

Raiden wins all, lolz. Raiden will EXPLODE Kadaj.





































IMO

?? Kadaj never had control of a "dark lifestream" those are just dogs he summoned, nothing to do with a "dark lifestream" whatever that is

the dark lifestream is the stuff seph summoned in the final battle. created by the souls of those who had died fro geostigma......or something like that

GEOOOOOOOOOOOOOSTIGMA ftw

Thats called the Negative Lifestream =\ and Kadaj had no control over that.. only Sephiroth did

Your mom is called the Negative Lifestream.

No she wasnt.

lulz.

FYI, "normal" Raiden in MGS2 could deflect bullets with his sword and single-handedly took down over 20 Metal Gears.

This is Cyborg Raiden from MGS4.

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Kadaj can do that too

The dogs are tainted life-stream "Shadow Creepers".

Take down over 20 missile-equipped mechs? I doubt it.

Deflect bullets and fight like Raiden in MGS4? Yes he can.

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Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Take down over 20 missile-equipped mechs? I doubt it.

Deflect bullets and fight like Raiden in MGS4? Yes he can.
Besides the fact the ur a FFVII hater, why do you doubt that?

Originally posted by Terryc250
Besides the fact the ur a FFVII hater, why do you doubt that? You are the on who said "Kadaj can do that" with no proof. Burden of proof is on you.

i meant Kadaj can deflect bullets as well, i obviously dont know if he can take out mechs, but seeing as theyre slow as hell and they juss need a chop to the leg to take them down, I wouldn't doubt Kadaj can do it, thats why i asked "Why would you doubt that?" Instead of "No Kadaj can do it"

Originally posted by Terryc250
i meant Kadaj can deflect bullets as well, i obviously dont know if he can take out mechs, but seeing as theyre slow as hell and they juss need a chop to the leg to take them down, I wouldn't doubt Kadaj can do it, thats why i asked "Why would you doubt that?" Instead of "No Kadaj can do it" He can block bullets, yes. Also, the tiny Metal Gears in IV went down with one chop to the leg, the Metal Gear Rays...not so much...

Raiden needed a crapload of Stingers for that and I'd rate a single Stinger Missile against a single or couple blows from Kadaj. Plus Kadaj would have to know where to strike.

I beleive 20 gears have absolutely nothing on Bahamut Sin SO yeah

Which Kadaj didn't beat so...okay.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Which Kadaj didn't beat so...okay.

I believe it was an attempt at ABC logic.

Ie : 20 Rays <<<< Bahamut Sin <<< Cloud = Kadaj

Or in Layman's terms.....

Bahamut Sin can pwn over 20 rays , Cloud pwned Bahamut, Kadaj kept up with (if not equalled for a time) Cloud, thus Kadaj pwns Raiden.

Cloud pwns Kadaj, but Kadaj did put up a fight for a bit

No. It wasnt an attempt through AB logic. Im showing where he would own when it comes to him using Materia. Since he used Bahmut since with materia. So yeah. Not ABC logic. Just Bahmut will be stronger than anything The Gears or Raider can throw.


And wouldnt it be abz logic.

Raiden>20 Gears>Kadaj. So yeah

How u know Kadaj cant beat 20 gears lol