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Thanos could do some damage.... Juste before going in his rendez-vous with his dear lover.

In other words, the team 1 is ****ed.

I think the team wins.

I think that it would be tough, but...

he pimp smacks adam first. For good this time.

He bfrs wwh like a child or kills him with his
ridiculous hv... the same that went through superman
and destroyed atlantis underwater...

Sentry won't last. He goes down in a few punches and
probably gets his neck snapped.

Thanos will be the problem, but without prep, I don't think
that even his ridiculous durability can stand up to sbp...

So, sbp 6-7/10 because the only one that matters is thanos.

thanos could be a threat if he fights smartly but other then that im giving sbp a solid 7

SMP for the majority.

Superboy Prime

Team destroys sbp for the win

is superboy prime stronger than superman prime?? doesnt the title of this thread say superboy/man prime meaning both superboy and superman? i see most people posting about superboy prime but not about superman prime..

Originally posted by SuppMan
is superboy prime stronger than superman prime?? doesnt the title of this thread say superboy/man prime meaning both superboy and superman? i see most people posting about superboy prime but not about superman prime..

Superboy Prime has been renamed Superman Prime.

He is not the same as Superman Prime from DC 1M.

Originally posted by SuppMan
is superboy prime stronger than superman prime?? doesnt the title of this thread say superboy/man prime meaning both superboy and superman? i see most people posting about superboy prime but not about superman prime..

They should have called him SupermanSecondary in order to avoid confusion with the real Superman Prime.

Earth Prime Superboy easily.

Didnt SBP/SMP recently blow up a planet in like seconds or less by lying through/ into it? i think his powerset is too much for the team to handle

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Didnt SBP/SMP recently blow up a planet in like seconds or less by lying through/ into it? i think his powerset is too much for the team to handle

Yeah that's one of his lesser feats.

The Grey Hulk has done better.

SBp has NEVER, I repeat NEVER, once actually fairly beaten a top tier.

Not once.

Call me when the ***** can actually knock out top tier no sweat like Thanos can.

Thanos wins this himself with superior durability, smarts and versatility.

He sets up a forcefield and SBP ain't getting through.

You know who made SBP bleed?

Superboy.

Know who made Thanos bleed a bit?

Warrior Madness Thor w/Power Gem.

Nice little comparison there.

I think that the team should be able to keep Superman Prime off guard and then Thanos can take him out with energy powers to get the win.

Thanos could just mindrape him....

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Thanos could just mindrape him....
Yeah there's that as well.

The team wouldn't even phase sbp..

What will BA do to him? Punch him?

WWH? He wouldn't be able to handle ba. He goes down or gets bfred

Sentry. No. If he can't beat wwh with his full power then sbp rapes him.

The only one that sbp will notice is thanos. He can try a mindrape, but he wouldn't have time. He'd be too busy focusing on defense. His shields won't work either, they have not been shown to be stronger than a dimension. As far as strength goes, sbp is over him. Speed... it would be like the runner all over again. It would be a fight, but thanos would go down.

Superboy-prime 6-7/10 More if he beats myx in the next issue. Alot more.

Um...Thanos has taken blasts from Galactus with his shields

SBP's punches, which can't KO top tiers, won't effect them at all.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Um...Thanos has taken blasts from Galactus with his shields

SBP's punches, which can't KO top tiers, won't effect them at all.

Show me a scan where thanos shields have stood up to galactus.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6706/energy31uw6.jpg

I believe he asked for an instance where they STOOD UP to Galactus.

Those seemed pretty damned knocked down to mine eyes.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6706/energy31uw6.jpg

His shields stood up to one blast. And galactus wasn't even trying.

Also, I don't see how punches that can pierce dimensions won't
pierce thanos shields. Phantom zone>>thanos shields.

And Galactus has never had to try so hard to knock down one before.

So, while I was initially wrong, it still took a good effort from Galactus to take them out.

I don't see how you can be exerting yourself (Galactus' own words) but not trying.



Why is that, exactly?

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
I don't see how you can be exerting yourself (Galactus' own words) but not trying.

If I am sitting down and the tv is on, I will have to exert myself to get up and turn it off. I'm not using more effort than I am any other day, but its just inconvenient to leave my comfort spot.

The same thing with swating a nat.



Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Why is that, exactly?

Because one is a dimension and one is a shield. And I doubt that the blast that shattered thanos shield would punch a hole in the phantom zone.

This is an assrape. SMP gets raped. Thanos alone takes him down, as would Sentry. SMP hasnt done anything that these guys havent done, he got owned by Superman, Supergirl, and Power Girl for pete's sake until they starting taking it easy on him because he started crying. They couldve messed SMP up bad if they werent so nice.

Yeah, i really don't see Prime winning here.

Adam and Sentry could likely at least get Prime to the ground, and from there, Thanos can take it home.

He's strong as hell, considerably above the top tier like SBP is.

His durability is insane, and so is his stamina.

The only thing he really lacks is speed, but with Adam and Sentry here, they can bring him down to earth, for one mega brick(Hulk) and guy like Thanos to finish him off.

Or Thanos could just mindrape him while everyone else chills out and has a few beers.



Has anyone as strong as Galactus ever been in the Zone?

SMP doesnt even have a chance. Not a chance in hell. The Team wins 100/100.

The Team wins this.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Know who made Thanos bleed a bit?

Warrior Madness Thor w/Power Gem.

Nice little comparison there.

I'm pretty sure that was Post-Death Thanos. It specifically says that it's Pre-Death Thanos in this fight. Unless by Pre-Death Mike meant before Thanos was killed by Drax and not before he was ressurected by Death.

Yeah. That's a crappy technicality issue these days with determining which death it was.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Or Thanos could just mindrape him while everyone else chills out and has a few beers.

The same way he did the runner?


Oh... wait... the runner was going to fast.

You realize that Superboy-prime beat the flash merged with the speed force to new earth right?


Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Has anyone as strong as Galactus ever been in the Zone?

Did that blast tear a hole in the dimension that they were in? No. So why would it do differently in the pz? Galactus could if he tried, but that blast couldn't.

Indeed.

Because he had the Space Gem.

Oh and uh...Thanos didn't try to mindrape him.



Yep. He also had a head start which tends to help.



Did Superboy-Prime's punches tear a whole in teh dimension when he hit any of the heroes?

No.

If the Black Adam fight wasn't directly contradicted by SBP fighting SB, I'd be inclined to say BA wouldn't be too useful...

poor supes

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Um...Thanos has taken blasts from Galactus with his shields

SBP's punches, which can't KO top tiers, won't effect them at all.
He can only brake out from the Phantom Zone with it and "alter reality" with punches.

Ignore him. He's one of the most limited users on this board.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Ignore him. He's one of the most limited users on this board.
Agreed.
A person who says Thanos's shield>>>>>Phantom Zone is an idiot.

Originally posted by Estacado
Agreed.
A person who says Thanos's shield>>>>>Phantom Zone is an idiot.
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Superman has punched his way out of death, and SBP's retcon punch is basically an extension of that kind of thing. I'd blame the S-shield, but he's not wearing one anymore....

Originally posted by Bransolute
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Originally posted by Estacado
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Originally posted by Sirius77
You realize that Superboy-prime beat the flash merged with the speed force to new earth right?

Superboy-Prime did not beat Bart Allen to New Earth. Bart got there a few seconds before Prime.

That was the whole point of Bart becoming the Speed Force, to beat Prime to New-Earth.

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Didnt SBP/SMP recently blow up a planet in like seconds or less by lying through/ into it? i think his powerset is too much for the team to handle

Pre - Death Thanos blew up a planet just by fighting Drax on it

I change my vote. Thanos's team winz via Thanos oblitaring his emo-ass

Prime.

No one is talking to you?

Your opinion is worthless and you're an idiotic troll DC fanboy?

Thanks.



But they can't KO Black Adam ro Superboy.

Sorry.

Thanos won't even blink if SBP's punches can't KO top tier.



Really?

Well, Thanos probably takes this even without mindraping.

The Grey Hulk has done better than SBP at destroying planets with durability.

And now Pre-Death Thanos can blow up planets in his fights.

This is basically Thanos vs. SMP. SMP is capable of beating BA, WWH, and Sentry by either snapping their neck or punching a hole through em. Thanos eventually will fall after a decent showing.

Lets compare some feats:

SMP he's good against some top-tier

Thanos is good against Odin and against DP Tyrant.
Thanos win this hands down.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Sorry.

Thanos won't even blink if SBP's punches can't KO top tier. The ignorance behind this statement, is absolutely mind boggling. srsly

Do you even know who The Hulk is?

Because, um, snapping his neck won't kill him.

And remind me when SBP punched through a top tier?

Oh yeah...never.

His punches can't even KO them.

Thanos has better feats.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Lets compare some feats:

SMP he's good against some top-tier

Thanos is good against Odin and against DP Tyrant.
Thanos win this hands down.

Sorry but those 2 showings were not all that good.
He did nothing to Odin.
He admitted Tyrant was going to kill him.

Am I wrong?

Did one punch from SBP knock out any top tier?

Originally posted by Bransolute
If the Black Adam fight wasn't directly contradicted by SBP fighting SB, I'd be inclined to say BA wouldn't be too useful...
Sbs last showing had to be good and even then it wasnt,bloodying a weakened sbp after some cheap shots doesnt really mean anything,at the end of the day conner was dead on the ground with his hand ripped off and sbp is just fine.

If Odin hit SBP with what he hit Thanos with, the ***** be dead in no time.

Oh and Thanos lasted the longest against Tyrant. The team Tyrant casually took down was stronger than any team SMP has fought.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Do you even know who The Hulk is?

Because, um, snapping his neck won't kill him.

And remind me when SBP punched through a top tier?

Oh yeah...never.

His punches can't even KO them.

Thanos has better feats.

The Hulk is a character who doesn't have a chance in hell of defeating SMP.

Dimesions>>>>>top tiers

His heat vision alone ko'ed earth 2 Superman in IC.

Good for him.

Kal-L was weakened in IC already.

No way the Golden Age Supes of yore would be almost even with New Earth Superman.

Thanos and Hulk win this

team 9/10

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
If Odin hit SBP with what he hit Thanos with, the ***** be dead in no time.

Actually, I'm going to disagree with this. Not because I think Prime is more durable than Thanos, but because he's more resistant to magic.

Not that Odin would have any trouble killing Prime, if he wanted to.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas


Nope.



Thanos didn't do jack shit. Even with a powerup orb.

All SBP withstood was a few hits from Black Adam...;.

I wouldn't consider that comparable to what Odin was dishing out to Thanos.



Um...he did pretty well.

And he only came for the Orb.

Read Cosmic powers. He used the orb (he used it to start the battle off). Tyrant hit him with HV and u can see him reaching desperately for it. I think he maybe got 2 or 3 licks in the whole fight.

This is a massive stomp in the Team's favor. SMP doesnt even have a chance. End of debate right there this thread should be closed.

Odin ONE-SHOTTED THE FRIGGIN' SILVER SURFER!
Thanos took all what ODIN (a High Skyfather) throw at him, and was ready for more!

Tyrant and Thanos fought on nearly a standstill until Thanos decide to get the **** out. Not long before, Tyrant dismentle a team of top-tier!

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
All SBP withstood was a few hits from Black Adam...;.

I wouldn't consider that comparable to what Odin was dishing out to Thanos.

He took three or four magic charged punches from Black Adam. Now BAs punches are nowhere near as powerful as what Odin is capable of, but it still shows high resistant to magic considering BAs blows can affect people like Captain Marvel.

Can Odin kill Superman-Prime? Sure.

Would Odin kill Prime in no time with what he hit Thanos with? I don't think so. I'd say Prime would as last as long as Thanos.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Pre - Death Thanos blew up a planet just by fighting Drax on it

There was a lot of energy being emitted between the both of them during the heat of battle.

SMP made it look too easy with almost no effort.

Originally posted by Sundipped
There was a lot of energy being omitted between the both of them during the heat of battle.

SMP made it look too easy with almost no effort.

IIRC they never intended to destroy the planet.

That's what makes it so impressive.

And yet SBP's planet busting feat is not on par with Terrax's feat or Grey Hulk's. Grey Hulk because he went through something twice the size of Earth and Terrax becaue he shattered a planet with pure strength and didn't need the speed boost to ram through the planet to destroy it.

And of course Gladiator three-punching a planet is better too

And accidentlaly destroying a planet in a fight is a helluva a lot more impressive, IMO. So, Pre-Death Thanos takes that too.

Do you see how completley unimpressive, all things considered, SBP's feat is?



Odin has one-shotted Surfer as mentioned and obviously what he was smacking Thanos around with was more than that one shot.

Nothing I've seen of SBP screams he has largely above top tier durability if it's above top tier at all. Norrin is one of the most durable top tiers and if Odin can take him out in a single blast, I don't see why several of those blasts wouldn't take out SBP.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Odin has one-shotted Surfer as mentioned and obviously what he was smacking Thanos around with was more than that one shot.

When has Surfer shown high-resistance to magic?

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Nothing I've seen of SBP screams he has largely above top tier durability

I thought I said Prime wasn't more durable than Thanos?

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Norrin is one of the most durable top tiers and if Odin can take him out in a single blast, I don't see why several of those blasts wouldn't take out SBP.

I'll concede, if you show me scans of Surfer showing high-resistance to magic.

Originally posted by Rorschach
IIRC they never intended to destroy the planet.

That's what makes it so impressive.

1 thing is that it was 2 powers combined that did it.
Another thing is that both were putting on a power display engaged in battle.
Last, SMP was not even in a combat situation where he had to exert alot of energy. This was just a casual flight through a planet.

I suppose you have a point but I don't differentiate if one is magic and what is cosmic energy. Odin has done things with his magic comparable to just simple cosmic energy so I tend to think of it as the same thing.

I would think a shot from a Skyfather, even if it wasn't magic, would take out Surfer.

I don't call flying away then charging into the planet full force "casual"

If he was going though space and instead of flying around Earth he just kept along and sailed right through it, that be casual.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas

As far as Hulk's feat, a planet is denser than an asteriod so no big deal. There is no evidence that suggests the planets Terrax and Glad busted were earth size.



Not really because alot of energy is being put out to do so during the fight.



Not at all.




SMP>>>>Surfer just for the record. Surfer's only advantage over SMP is the manipulation of red/yellow sun energy. Other than that it's really a mismatch.




He did travel through 300 miles of combined GL energy. I would consider that top tier durability.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
No one is talking to you?

Your opinion is worthless and you're an idiotic troll DC fanboy?

Thanks.



But they can't KO Black Adam ro Superboy.

Sorry.

Thanos won't even blink if SBP's punches can't KO top tier.



Really?

Well, Thanos probably takes this even without mindraping.

The Grey Hulk has done better than SBP at destroying planets with durability.

And now Pre-Death Thanos can blow up planets in his fights.
Ok.
You can stop talking bullshit now.......

Hulk went through something bigger than Earth and that's all that matters.

And you don't know if the planets were larger or smaller than Earth.

The point is they physically destroyed them with power.

Which is FAR more impressive than what SBP did.



As opposed to all the energy SBP put into purposefully destroying the planet.

Nope. Thanos' feat is far more impressive.



lol SMP's durability feats are few and far between.

Nothing he's taken comes close to what Surfer has.

Surfer has speed adn durability on him.



Sure it is.

It's also strength and speed.

Honestly, I think that sentry alone could give sbp a good fight, Hulk is irrelevant in this fight since he cant fly BUT if sbp came to earth and tried to fight wwh, hulk would also give him a fight due to his showings.

I kinda see marvel top tiers different from dc top tiers. Almost all of marvel top tiers shown the ability of having planet destroying strength wereas it took someone like superboy prime to show that he has the ability to destroy a planet.

Instead of wwh he should have used Thor but I still give this to the team due to sentry and thanos. Black adam has already been proven unable to hurt superboy prime but I dont think that he would do the same to sentry or thanos if push came to shove.

Team 7/10 even though sbp is powerful as hell.

Originally posted by carver9
Honestly, I think that sentry alone could give sbp a good fight, Hulk is irrelevant in this fight since he cant fly BUT if sbp came to earth and tried to fight wwh, hulk would also give him a fight due to his showings.

I kinda see marvel top tiers different from dc top tiers. Almost all of marvel top tiers shown the ability of having planet destroying strength wereas it took someone like superboy prime to show that he has the ability to destroy a planet.

Superman Prime could easily take the first three combatants on team one.

Thanos is the only thing that makes it a fight.

Originally posted by Estacado


Well if Im wrong, could you show me a top tier in dc that destroyed a planet under physical might. I have yet to witness it. You know, like gladiator punching a planet. Like beta ray bill destroying two planets in one issue. Like hulk destroying something the size of earth. Like drax destroying a planet.

Now its your turn to name top tiers from dc that have destroyed planet under physical strength. Youre not going to be able to do it.

Originally posted by Soljer
Superman Prime could easily take the first three combatants on team one.

Thanos is the only thing that makes it a fight.

I never said that he couldnt take them, I said that he would have a hard time with them.

I disagree with your last statement.

WWH destroys Superman Prime 9/10.

Originally posted by Soljer
Superman Prime could easily take the first three combatants on team one.

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
WWH gets destroyed by Superman Prime 11/10.
Yes we know.

I dont think that he would get destroyed but he would lose.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think that he would get destroyed but he would lose.
Theres absolutely nothing hulk could do to sbp that would make it come close to a non humiliating lose.

He could smack him.

I'm sure it could cause as much damage as a punch from Superboy and a single blast of Ring energy, which bloodied SBP and made him scream in pain respectively.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
He could smack him.

I'm sure it could cause as much damage as a punch from Superboy and a single blast of Ring energy, which bloodied SBP and made him scream in pain respectively.
Current sbp isnt severelly depowered like he was in infinite crisis so try again.